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2012-08-08 08:46:23 AM
Well, that's something you don't see every day. Or ever.
 
2012-08-08 08:47:03 AM
Business insider is a big obnoxious pop up ad pretending to be a website. Me no go there anymore.
 
2012-08-08 08:47:39 AM
Uh, so?
 
2012-08-08 08:48:31 AM
Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!
 
2012-08-08 08:49:15 AM
how does having free McDonalds for life jive with the whole body a temple thing...
 
2012-08-08 08:50:35 AM
Free McDonald's for Romney.

Really makes me Grimace.
 
2012-08-08 08:50:36 AM
Hah, as if the typical McDonalds employee knows who Ray Kroc is.
 
2012-08-08 08:50:57 AM
What's interesting here is that we get another look inside the mind of a man who can't even begin to understand how he would relate to "normies".

If you'll permit me some speculation based on the behavior I've seen from him in the past...

He has an anecdote about McDonald's. He thinks "hey, the rabble eat at McDonald's, right? Let's use this to become relate-able". So he goes out and he brings up McDonald's like it's some magic keyword that's going to make people instantly love him when they hear it, but then he tossed on the whole "by the way, I bring this up because my stinking-rich father had a card he got from a stinking-rich connection that entitled him to never have to pay for his burger, fries and shake meal there" and blows the whole thing. Now instead of "hey look at me! I eat poor people food!" it becomes "hey look at me, thanks to my connections to other super-rich businessman, I don't have to pay for my food when I eat with the poor people!"

Hardly something to get real excited over considering his hundreds of other massive. glaring faults that suggest he'd be a horrible president for this country, but interesting nonetheless. The guy just cannot connect. As you'd expect of a man who could spend less than ten minutes counting out all the people in this country wealthier than him.
 
2012-08-08 08:51:27 AM
Mitt is precious. He honestly has no clue what things are normal and what things aren't for the rest of us.
 
2012-08-08 08:51:30 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!



I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.
 
2012-08-08 08:51:35 AM

magusdevil: Uh, so?


I'm not sure either. I thought everybody pretty much already agrees that Romney's dad was a good guy.
 
2012-08-08 08:52:04 AM
Sweet Jesus, if I had free fries for life I would get so goddamned fat.
 
2012-08-08 08:53:21 AM
"I like those fancy dollar menu items you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks." ~ Rmoney
 
2012-08-08 08:53:48 AM

fracto: Romney's dad also released his taxes.


Romney's dad established the whole precedent of candidates releasing their taxes.
 
2012-08-08 08:54:24 AM
Romney can't just escape that "silver spoon/fortunate son" image can he? He's lived a insulated life of privilege, even extending to freaking McDonalds, of all things.

On a Facebook feed today, a guy I'm connected with shared Malkin's bit making fun of Jimmy Carter. In what world can you even say anything bad about Carter in relation to the clown circus that is the Romney campaign?

On the other hand, his dad was a classical conservative, not a rich, bumbling buffoon who get his own story straight.
 
2012-08-08 08:54:51 AM

Aarontology: Sweet Jesus, if I had free fries for life I would get so goddamned fat.


That's why they don't give those cards out to you commoners, no self control like the Romney elites. After all, you would be rich too if you had some self control, but there you go spending money for electricity and gasoline. Really, you should be ashamed.
 
2012-08-08 08:56:48 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: What's interesting here is that we get another look inside the mind of a man who can't even begin to understand how he would relate to "normies".

If you'll permit me some speculation based on the behavior I've seen from him in the past...

He has an anecdote about McDonald's. He thinks "hey, the rabble eat at McDonald's, right? Let's use this to become relate-able". So he goes out and he brings up McDonald's like it's some magic keyword that's going to make people instantly love him when they hear it, but then he tossed on the whole "by the way, I bring this up because my stinking-rich father had a card he got from a stinking-rich connection that entitled him to never have to pay for his burger, fries and shake meal there" and blows the whole thing. Now instead of "hey look at me! I eat poor people food!" it becomes "hey look at me, thanks to my connections to other super-rich businessman, I don't have to pay for my food when I eat with the poor people!"

Hardly something to get real excited over considering his hundreds of other massive. glaring faults that suggest he'd be a horrible president for this country, but interesting nonetheless. The guy just cannot connect. As you'd expect of a man who could spend less than ten minutes counting out all the people in this country wealthier than him.


1 percenters are proud of their disconnect from reality just as conservatives are proud of their stupidity.
 
2012-08-08 08:58:10 AM
"This one time, in Paris, you people wouldn't take my Platinum Card or my free food for life card, so I had to eat a bologna sandwich."
 
2012-08-08 08:58:22 AM

Transubstantive: Aarontology: Sweet Jesus, if I had free fries for life I would get so goddamned fat.

That's why they don't give those cards out to you commoners, no self control like the Romney elites. After all, you would be rich too if you had some self control, but there you go spending money for electricity and gasoline. Really, you should be ashamed.


Shows what you know. I was going to take thirty percent of my fries and keep them in offshore fry havens.
 
2012-08-08 08:59:15 AM
Mitt will never get it. he doesn't understand there's an It to get. he genuinely doesn't understand how abnormal his life experience is compared to most; he's not being repulsive or reprehensible deliberately, he's describing normality for People Like Him. It's the same perspective that Royalty have. Not bad per se, just completely Other, and when they try and reach out to the rest of us, it never quite hits the right note. On some level, it's indescribably sad and pitiable.

and incredibly funny of course. let's not overlook that. republicans have chosen just the worst possible candidate, haven't they? Apart from Gingrich.
 
2012-08-08 08:59:40 AM
You people all sound like Rockefellers to me, I eat at McDowell's.
 
2012-08-08 09:00:49 AM
Or, in Simpsons terms...

At the grocery store...
[pushing a cart]
[to a woman] "I'm shopping!"
-- Mr. BurnsMitt Romney, not losing the common touch, "The Old Man and the Lisa"

In the cereal aisle, Mr. Burns Mitt Romney[seeing a box of Krusty-Os] pesters Krusty to help him find a cereal that's "for him."
BurnsRomney: Uh, oh, excuse me, could you tell me where I might find the "BurnsRomney-Os"?
Krusty: Sorry, pops. They don't put nobodies on cereal boxes.
-- Silly BurnsieRomney, cereals are for somebodies, "The Old Man and the Lisa"

[notices a box of "Count ChoculaFranken Berry" cereal with a cartoon of a vampire Frankenstein's Monster on it]
Hmm. I suppose this one looks a _bit_ like me.
-- Mr. Burns Mitt Romney goes shopping, "The Old Man and the Lisa"
 
2012-08-08 09:01:28 AM
How did George Romney make it to age 88 eating McD's every morning?

Also, I thought Romney's dad was off limits, and bringing him up - even for a retelling of actual, undeniable historical fact - was disrespectful to the Romneys, to politics in general, to Mormonism, and to America. I guess this is like Palin's kids - it's only OK if THEY bring it up.

// but you can't respond
 
2012-08-08 09:01:49 AM
You know how boys liked to go through their dad's top drawer, just to sort of see what he has in there, maybe find an old coin he might not miss or whatever...

Lol, "old coins". Yeah, that's what you were looking for, Mitt. Totally not Playboys.
 
2012-08-08 09:02:47 AM
The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh
 
2012-08-08 09:03:09 AM

Notabunny: I'm not sure either. I thought everybody pretty much already agrees that Romney's dad was a good guy.


It has nothing to do with being a good or bad guy, it has to do with the fact that Romney is so extravagantly wealthy that he cannot even begin to comprehend what is considered "normal" for more than 99% of this country. The man is so far removed from what normal people live on a daily basis that he just cannot offer an anecdote that doesn't include some nugget about his extremely elite status.

He should have stopped trying to connect to "normal" people during the primaries and just picked an actual strength and platform to run on. He's extremely wealthy and lives in a world that more than 99% of this country will never see and he needs to stop pretending that he can bridge that enormous divide with stupid anecdotes and platitudes.

Mitt, you've got an extraordinary amount of wealth. That's not changing and you're convincing anyone otherwise. Stop trying and just craft a damn policy platform to run on instead.
 
2012-08-08 09:03:20 AM
I honestly thought the "nascar, I know car owners" out-of-touch comment could not be topped. I was wrong.
 
2012-08-08 09:03:26 AM

Alphax: Well, that's something you don't see every day. Or ever.


Yeah, what a kroc.

/obvious
 
2012-08-08 09:03:30 AM

Headso: how does having free McDonalds for life jive with the whole body a temple thing...


Then again back then McDonalds actually made their own food vs having it pre-fabricated and stored in bin warmers for assembly.
 
2012-08-08 09:04:47 AM

bulldg4life: I honestly thought the "nascar, I know car owners" out-of-touch comment could not be topped. I was wrong.


Car. Left. Fast.
 
2012-08-08 09:05:13 AM
Cool story, Bro.
 
2012-08-08 09:06:44 AM

fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.


George totally earned the right to eat there for free. I'm not disagreeing with that. And I'm not saying it's a reason to dislike Romney----I'm saying that this is just another thing that makes him seem "different" from the rest of us. Think of it this way: a big part of the Republican strategy against Obama has been to paint him as an "other." That is to say, someone different, whose background/ancestry/religion is different from "ours" (meaning joe schmoe), and therefore he is untrustworthy. Therefore it follows that Mitt Romney's goal should be to make himself a "regular guy," someone that voters can relate to,

In my case, I grew up in SE Michigan, not far from where Romney was raised. He should have NO problem convincing me that he has more in common with me than the guy who was born in Hawaii and raised in a variety of foreign countries. But the many, many little things like this make him seem even more foreign to most people than Obama already does.

He should have just said "My dad was a regular guy who ate at McDonald's every day for lunch" and left it at that. That would make Mitt more relateable to most voters. Adding that his dad never paid for the privilege makes that relateability disappear. He should have left off the "for free" part, since almost no one would know any different----and if someone brought the "free lunch" thing up, I don't think there'd be much political hay to be made from it.

TL;DR: The content of what Romney's saying isn't necessarily bad, but the delivery is AWFUL. Which is pretty much par for this campaign.
 
2012-08-08 09:07:13 AM
Okay, seriously. I'm following all the election hullabaloo, but this is a nonstarter.

[itsnotnewsitsfark.jpg]
 
2012-08-08 09:09:44 AM

kronicfeld: bulldg4life: I honestly thought the "nascar, I know car owners" out-of-touch comment could not be topped. I was wrong.

Car. Left. Fast.


Not this week! Damn New Yorkers making Nascar difficult for the rest of us.
 
2012-08-08 09:10:06 AM

Guuberre: The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh


Did they have quality (relative to today) food there back in the olden days?
 
2012-08-08 09:10:17 AM
yeah -- umm -- getting a freebie from Ray Croc because you did him a solid?

CONGRATULATIONS -- that is awesome.

much respect.
 
2012-08-08 09:10:43 AM
Hold on. I think the most important thing about this story is that Mitt is basically admitting that he is a psychopath:

"You know how boys liked to go through their dad's top drawer, just to sort of see what he has in there, maybe find an old coin he might not miss or whatever, " Romney told a group of donors at a Chicago fundraiser this afternoon.

Mitt Romney stole from his own father as a child. o_o

Sure, I know what you're thinking, "Big farking deal. You're blowing this out of proportion. Gosh, Mitt Romney sure is sooo dreamy" -- but why didn't Mitt just say, "I was just being nosy and looking through my dad's stuff"? That's understandable. But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.
 
2012-08-08 09:14:45 AM
It was signed by the hand of Ray Kroc

Was the rest of him involved in the signing, or just a disembodied hand?
 
2012-08-08 09:14:46 AM
"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me."

-- F. Scott Fitzgerald
 
2012-08-08 09:15:49 AM

James F. Campbell: But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.


Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.
 
2012-08-08 09:16:04 AM

Aarontology: Sweet Jesus, if I had free fries for life I would get so goddamned fat.



Are you suggesting the only thing preventing your from eating fries until your dropped is not being able to afford $5 a day?
 
2012-08-08 09:17:15 AM

Dr Dreidel: How did George Romney make it to age 88 eating McD's every morning?


I guess McDonalds' food must be full of preservatives.
 
2012-08-08 09:17:39 AM

Andy Andy: Guuberre: The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh

Did they have quality (relative to today) food there back in the olden days?


Yes. The price of their burgers has remained pretty much constant, despite inflation.
 
2012-08-08 09:18:01 AM
Lovely story at a dinner party, or at his father's funeral service.

Terrible story when your main campaign problem is being seen as an exotic one-percenter moon-creature.
 
2012-08-08 09:19:50 AM

Bungles: Aarontology: Sweet Jesus, if I had free fries for life I would get so goddamned fat.


Are you suggesting the only thing preventing your from eating fries until your dropped is not being able to afford $5 a day?


It's not the cost. It'd be the psychological effect of "Hey, I have free shiat. let me get as much as I can"
 
2012-08-08 09:19:59 AM
www.eatmedaily.com

/not mcdonalds but I want it back!
 
2012-08-08 09:20:15 AM

Andy Andy: Guuberre: The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh

Did they have quality (relative to today) food there back in the olden days?


Yes since while Kroc was a stickler about standardization (which is what made him a success) he also avoided cutting quality like soybean additives to meat. Of course mass production went to its logical extreme and volume and speed replaced quality control.
 
2012-08-08 09:20:37 AM

HMS_Blinkin: fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.

George totally earned the right to eat there for free. I'm not disagreeing with that. And I'm not saying it's a reason to dislike Romney----I'm saying that this is just another thing that makes him seem "different" from the rest of us. Think of it this way: a big part of the Republican strategy against Obama has been to paint him as an "other." That is to say, someone different, whose background/ancestry/religion is different from "ours" (meaning joe schmoe), and therefore he is untrustworthy. Therefore it follows that Mitt Romney's goal should be to make himself a "regular guy," someone that voters can relate to,

In my case, I grew up in SE Michigan, not far from where Romney was raised. He should have NO problem convincing me that he has more in common with me than the guy who was born in Hawaii and raised in a variety of foreign countries. But the many, many little things like this make him seem even more foreign to most people than Obama already does.

He should have just said "My dad was a regular guy who ate at McDonald's every day for lunch" and left it at that. That would make Mitt more relateable to most voters. Adding that his dad never paid for the privilege makes that relateability disappe ...


This.

In an attempt to sound like one of the boys, his delivery just alienates him more and more.
 
2012-08-08 09:20:59 AM
I'm honestly curious the context in which that anecdote was delivered. Was Romney just trying to relay some 'regular guy' credentials or something? Seems a weird story to tell on the campaign trail.
 
2012-08-08 09:21:21 AM

moistD: [www.eatmedaily.com image 540x411]

/not mcdonalds but I want it back!



I'm pissed they withdrew the Big 'n Tasty. They don't have anything Whopper-like at all at McDonalds now.


/I want a big burger with lots of crap on it, damn it.
 
2012-08-08 09:22:14 AM
Joe Public: There ain't so such thing as a free lunch.

Rmoney: Well, my dad had this card...
 
2012-08-08 09:22:53 AM

Fart_Machine: Andy Andy: Guuberre: The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh

Did they have quality (relative to today) food there back in the olden days?

Yes since while Kroc was a stickler about standardization (which is what made him a success) he also avoided cutting quality like soybean additives to meat. Of course mass production went to its logical extreme and volume and speed replaced quality control.


One interesting thing was that in pre-Big Mac days, the menu was a lot smaller, both in number of items and in the size of the portions. It was burgers, fries shakes and soda. The burgers were the size of the current burger, not Big Mac size. The shakes would be considered a "small" today. And people were not as fat either.
 
2012-08-08 09:23:33 AM

Bungles: Lovely story at a dinner party, or at his father's funeral service.


Give Mittens some credit. He wouldn't have told that story at his father's funeral. He was too busy thinking about the reading of the will and trying not to get a boner.
 
2012-08-08 09:28:12 AM
img52.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-08 09:28:24 AM

Headso: Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.


Well, sure, me too. But the way Mitt tells the story... I don't know. I can't pinpoint it, but something doesn't sit right with me. Perhaps I am making too big a deal out of this; after all, I've seen enough out of him as an adult to think he's probably a psychopath.
 
2012-08-08 09:28:43 AM

theknuckler_33: I'm honestly curious the context in which that anecdote was delivered. Was Romney just trying to relay some 'regular guy' credentials or something? Seems a weird story to tell on the campaign trail.


It is a weird story. One thing that you can infer from it is that it sounds the dad didn't actually use the card because he kept it in a drawer, but Mitt wanted to actually use it for all the free stuff he could get. It was clear that the stores were losing money with the card, and had never seen one, but they never refused to honor it and Mitt took them for what he could get for free. The other is that Mitt went though his dad's items specifically looking to take advantage of his dad's forgetfulness to find stuff to take. His whole life has been that way, accumulating as much as possible for himself without regards for the consequences for others. Take what you can and give nothing back.
 
2012-08-08 09:29:41 AM
It's shocking George Romney lived as long as he did.

McDonald's sucks.
 
2012-08-08 09:32:14 AM

KarmicDisaster: It is a weird story. One thing that you can infer from it is that it sounds the dad didn't actually use the card because he kept it in a drawer, but Mitt wanted to actually use it for all the free stuff he could get. It was clear that the stores were losing money with the card, and had never seen one, but they never refused to honor it and Mitt took them for what he could get for free. The other is that Mitt went though his dad's items specifically looking to take advantage of his dad's forgetfulness to find stuff to take. His whole life has been that way, accumulating as much as possible for himself without regards for the consequences for others. Take what you can and give nothing back.


Yeah... this is it. This.
 
2012-08-08 09:33:38 AM

James F. Campbell: Hold on. I think the most important thing about this story is that Mitt is basically admitting that he is a psychopath:

"You know how boys liked to go through their dad's top drawer, just to sort of see what he has in there, maybe find an old coin he might not miss or whatever, " Romney told a group of donors at a Chicago fundraiser this afternoon.

Mitt Romney stole from his own father as a child. o_o

Sure, I know what you're thinking, "Big farking deal. You're blowing this out of proportion. Gosh, Mitt Romney sure is sooo dreamy" -- but why didn't Mitt just say, "I was just being nosy and looking through my dad's stuff"? That's understandable. But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.


when you're 30 -- it's psychopathy
when you're 11 -- it's stupid shiat kids do

btw, i read that as "i, Mitt, swiped a coin from my dad once" but also considered "my kids went through my top drawer and swiped an old coin of mine"

i swiped THIS from my dad's top drawer:

ecx.images-amazon.com

I remember when he figured out it was missing -- but never said anything.
 
2012-08-08 09:33:52 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: What's interesting here is that we get another look inside the mind of a man who can't even begin to understand how he would relate to "normies".

If you'll permit me some speculation based on the behavior I've seen from him in the past...

He has an anecdote about McDonald's. He thinks "hey, the rabble eat at McDonald's, right? Let's use this to become relate-able". So he goes out and he brings up McDonald's like it's some magic keyword that's going to make people instantly love him when they hear it, but then he tossed on the whole "by the way, I bring this up because my stinking-rich father had a card he got from a stinking-rich connection that entitled him to never have to pay for his burger, fries and shake meal there" and blows the whole thing. Now instead of "hey look at me! I eat poor people food!" it becomes "hey look at me, thanks to my connections to other super-rich businessman, I don't have to pay for my food when I eat with the poor people!"

Hardly something to get real excited over considering his hundreds of other massive. glaring faults that suggest he'd be a horrible president for this country, but interesting nonetheless. The guy just cannot connect. As you'd expect of a man who could spend less than ten minutes counting out all the people in this country wealthier than him.


yeah, that's pretty much what I got out of it, too. I mean, it's not THAT big a deal but it's just another indicator of what an out-of-touch rich douche bag this guy is.
 
2012-08-08 09:35:03 AM

Bungles: moistD: [www.eatmedaily.com image 540x411]

/not mcdonalds but I want it back!


I'm pissed they withdrew the Big 'n Tasty. They don't have anything Whopper-like at all at McDonalds now.


/I want a big burger with lots of crap on it, damn it.


that made me switch to BK full time actually.
 
2012-08-08 09:35:12 AM
Free McDonalds for life? That must be worth tens of dollars! I AM OUTRAGE!

Seriously, Romney is the worst serious candidate for President in at least 2 decades. This shiat is absolutely trivial compared to the myriad ways that man is awful.
 
2012-08-08 09:36:10 AM
Burger. Fries. Coke.
Free
 
2012-08-08 09:36:41 AM

Guuberre: The important question here is, who the fark would WANT a free McDonald's for Life card?

/bleehh


It should be renamed "McDonald's for Death" card. The McSoylent Happy Meal is to die for.
 
2012-08-08 09:36:46 AM
So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.
 
2012-08-08 09:38:59 AM
my dad had a deck of nude playing cards from a hairier, bygone era. Suck it, Mormons!
 
2012-08-08 09:41:13 AM
Jeez.... Went a little crazy with the apostrophes there.
 
2012-08-08 09:41:24 AM
Some people cannot enjoy McDonald's like normal people

joannapenabickley.typepad.com
 
2012-08-08 09:46:04 AM

thurstonxhowell: Free McDonalds for life? That must be worth tens of dollars! I AM OUTRAGE!

Seriously, Romney is the worst serious candidate for President in at least 2 decades. This shiat is absolutely trivial compared to the myriad ways that man is awful.


Absolutely. However it's a bizarre anecdote if he was trying to use it for a Regular Guy shtick.
 
2012-08-08 09:49:19 AM

Fart_Machine: thurstonxhowell: Free McDonalds for life? That must be worth tens of dollars! I AM OUTRAGE!

Seriously, Romney is the worst serious candidate for President in at least 2 decades. This shiat is absolutely trivial compared to the myriad ways that man is awful.

Absolutely. However it's a bizarre anecdote if he was trying to use it for a Regular Guy shtick.


"You know that place you eat at, that's really bad for you, but you eat there anyway because it's cheap and you don't have any money? Well, I eat there too, but I get it for free! Why yes, I'm a multimillionaire. Why do you ask?"
 
2012-08-08 09:50:32 AM

qorkfiend: Fart_Machine: thurstonxhowell: Free McDonalds for life? That must be worth tens of dollars! I AM OUTRAGE!

Seriously, Romney is the worst serious candidate for President in at least 2 decades. This shiat is absolutely trivial compared to the myriad ways that man is awful.

Absolutely. However it's a bizarre anecdote if he was trying to use it for a Regular Guy shtick.

"You know that place you eat at, that's really bad for you, but you eat there anyway because it's cheap and you don't have any money? Well, I eat there too, but I get it for free! Why yes, I'm a multimillionaire. Why do you ask?"


Romney can't even condescend like a normal rich asshole.
 
2012-08-08 09:50:49 AM
I'm ready to vote for George Romney. Can I do that?
 
2012-08-08 09:51:04 AM

RedT: "I like those fancy dollar menu items you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks." ~ Rmoney



"I see you little people like eating at McDonalds. I can relate. I have some great friends who are McDonalds Franchise owners."
 
2012-08-08 09:52:55 AM

ipsofacto: my dad had a deck of nude playing cards from a hairier, bygone era. Suck it, Mormons!


My grandfather, who handled all the dad stuff after my own father split, had all kinds of great stuff stashed away in his dresser drawers. Switchblades, bullets from WWII, old medals, a couple of combat knives, a Japanese bayonet, coins from all over the place, cigarette lighter with a pin up girl on it, etc.

And, goddamn, if he didn't know within a day if something was missing... : )

My favorite discover as kid going through his stuff in the den was this:

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Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.
 
2012-08-08 09:53:10 AM

Headso: James F. Campbell: But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.

Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.


I worked for a big box retailer, and one of the questions on the test was "Have you ever lied to your parents?". Amazing the number of applicants who answered no, and were immediately disqualified.
 
2012-08-08 09:54:12 AM

wingnut396: Joe Public Republican while discussing Health Care Reform: There ain't so such thing as a free lunch.

Rmoney: Well, my dad had this card...


FTFY
 
2012-08-08 09:54:35 AM
and yet ray kroc's widow, joan, left $200 million to... NPR!!!
 
2012-08-08 09:55:19 AM
What really struck me was the goldmine line. I... Does that strike anyone else as odd? It just makes me think this guy was always a soulless corporate ceo, even as a child, as if he would sell his lunch if he could to earn a buck. Creeps me out...
 
2012-08-08 09:55:47 AM
Just Romney bein Romney. But free food for life seems over the top for doing "a little training lesson". I feel a conspiracy theory coming on.... What the hell did you do to those hamburgers Romney?!?!?!
 
2012-08-08 09:57:39 AM

keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.


Good point. Unless I was broke and couldn't pay at all I wouldn't use a free lunch card.
 
2012-08-08 09:59:33 AM

PanicMan: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.

Good point. Unless I was broke and couldn't pay at all I wouldn't use a free lunch card.


Heh, Mitt laminated it so it wouldn't wear out.
 
2012-08-08 10:06:23 AM
How F'n cheap would you have to be to use that card?

We're talking a multi-millionaire presenting a special card (not a coupon) that confuses the cashier rather than paying the $2 for the meal.
 
2012-08-08 10:07:37 AM

HMS_Blinkin: TL;DR: The content of what Romney's saying isn't necessarily bad, but the delivery is AWFUL. Which is pretty much par for this campaign


Let's be fair, sometimes the content is pretty awful too. Not this time, but some times.
 
2012-08-08 10:09:36 AM

thurstonxhowell: Free McDonalds for life? That must be worth tens of dollars! I AM OUTRAGE!

Seriously, Romney is the worst serious candidate for President in at least 2 decades. This shiat is absolutely trivial compared to the myriad ways that man is awful.



Normally this story would seem trivial to me. I've never gone wanting of food.

But last week my brother let slip a comment about how he can't even afford McDonalds anymore after having his job outsourced last year and has been completely incapable of finding any new work. I never even realised just how dire his situation had become, then I come across this story. Where an obscenely rich person is just given free food for the rest of his life. Free food that he probably won't even eat because he can get better free food elsewhere, while my brother would kill just get food of McDonalds quality.

It just reminds me of how many times rich people have farked him over, too. Company cut his benefits while announcing record profits. Company refused to grant raises, while announcing record profits. Company starts outsourcing, citing the need to cut costs in hard times... while simultaneously announcing record profits. His checking account is constantly empty, not because he keeps spending money but because the bank keeps charging him stupid little fees here and there. They used to reorder his checks to force him to overdraft even when he didn't. Rich people are never charged those fees; and if they mistakenly are, they go up to the bank and threaten to take their money somewhere else. Then the bank waives the fees. But my brother doesn't have that kind of leverage. They'll say "There's a $50 fee for closing your $40 checking account. Here's your negative $10 dollars."

Every farking word out of Romneys mouth only serves the drive the point home: he, and everyone like him, are privileged farkheads who deserve to be hanged for screwing over people like my brother. Only then will this country begin to heal itself.
 
2012-08-08 10:10:34 AM

KarmicDisaster: PanicMan: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.

Good point. Unless I was broke and couldn't pay at all I wouldn't use a free lunch card.

Heh, Mitt laminated it so it wouldn't wear out.


Exactly... If this little tale is true, I'm kind of confused as to the purpose in telling it.

As a lower middle-class working stiff, it just makes me think Romney is a cheap bastard and pretty much confirms what I think about the very wealthy in this country.

It certainly doesn't make me feel like I have anything in common with that twit.
 
2012-08-08 10:13:02 AM

MithrandirBooga: It just reminds me of how many times rich people have farked him over, too. Company cut his benefits while announcing record profits. Company refused to grant raises, while announcing record profits. Company starts outsourcing, citing the need to cut costs in hard times... while simultaneously announcing record profits. His checking account is constantly empty, not because he keeps spending money but because the bank keeps charging him stupid little fees here and there. They used to reorder his checks to force him to overdraft even when he didn't. Rich people are never charged those fees; and if they mistakenly are, they go up to the bank and threaten to take their money somewhere else. Then the bank waives the fees. But my brother doesn't have that kind of leverage. They'll say "There's a $50 fee for closing your $40 checking account. Here's your negative $10 dollars."


Reminded me of this (Louis CK, so NSFW language)
 
2012-08-08 10:13:52 AM

James F. Campbell: Headso: Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.

Well, sure, me too. But the way Mitt tells the story... I don't know. I can't pinpoint it, but something doesn't sit right with me. Perhaps I am making too big a deal out of this; after all, I've seen enough out of him as an adult to think he's probably a psychopath.


That's my take on him too. He has no moral center. It's all about what he can get away with.
 
2012-08-08 10:14:48 AM
It said this entitles George W. Romney to a lifetime of a hamburger, a shake and French fries at McDonald's. It was signed by the hand of Ray Kroc.

...And what fancy lad does not enjoy a lifetime of a hamburger and a shake after an arduous day of sport? So after sport, I would satiate my appetency with hamburger and quench my drought with shake. Sometimes I would would exchange such card with a chum for two bits and he would enjoy hamburger and shake and the two would be consumed by the mouth of this boy. Usually after sport because we fancied sport and hamburger.
 
2012-08-08 10:16:26 AM

keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.



It's not at all surprising.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires." - Rmoney


"I don't pay more for McDonalds than is legally due because I've got this handy little eat-for-free-for-life card here. Frankly if I had actually paid for my food, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to eat for free."
 
2012-08-08 10:19:31 AM

MithrandirBooga: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.


It's not at all surprising.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires." - Rmoney


"I don't pay more for McDonalds than is legally due because I've got this handy little eat-for-free-for-life card here. Frankly if I had actually paid for my food, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to eat for free."


This is how a normal person might say that: "I don't pay less taxes than are legally due, and frankly if I had paid less than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president." Compare this to how Mitt Romney says it.
 
2012-08-08 10:23:47 AM
Anybody surprised by the fact that the Romneys used the card has never had a conversation with a rich person. Most of them are incredibly frugal/cheap to a point that seems ridiculous to most people. Doesn't it make intuitive sense that a person with a lot of money has a tendency towards accumualting money rather than spending it?
 
2012-08-08 10:26:26 AM

MithrandirBooga: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.


It's not at all surprising.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires." - Rmoney


"I don't pay more for McDonalds than is legally due because I've got this handy little eat-for-free-for-life card here. Frankly if I had actually paid for my food, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to eat for free."


No, it's not surprising at all...

I'm self-employed and I've done some work for very wealthy people and mom-and-pop type small businesses. Without fail, the very wealthy clients will try to nickle and dime me every step of the way and I'll always have to send out a second or third invoice to collect the remaining balance (always get 50% up front, boys and girls).

Wealthy folks are generally some of the cheapest, greediest people I've met in my life, and they usually don't have any qualms about farking you over, especially if they don't think you have the cash to take them to court over it.

Now, I've had some great wealthy clients, too... Always pay on time and don't dispute every paragraph of the proposal, etc., but, in general, the mom and pops are the ones who pay their bills on time, either accept the price of the work or say they can't do it (not try to get me to do the work for a lower price), and actually appreciate the work I'm doing for them.
 
2012-08-08 10:42:37 AM

keylock71: MithrandirBooga: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.


It's not at all surprising.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires." - Rmoney


"I don't pay more for McDonalds than is legally due because I've got this handy little eat-for-free-for-life card here. Frankly if I had actually paid for my food, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to eat for free."

No, it's not surprising at all...

I'm self-employed and I've done some work for very wealthy people and mom-and-pop type small businesses. Without fail, the very wealthy clients will try to nickle and dime me every step of the way and I'll always have to send out a second or third invoice to collect the remaining balance (always get 50% up front, boys and girls).

Wealthy folks are generally some of the cheapest, greediest people I've met in my life, and they usually don't have any qualms about farking you over, especially if they don't think you have the cash to take them to court over it.

Now, I've had some great wealthy clients, too... Always pay on time and don't dispute every paragraph of the proposal, etc., but, in general, the mom and pops are the ones who pay their bills on time, either accept the price of the work or say they can't do it (not try to get me to do the work for a lower price), and ...


Sounds like some companies I sell to... the richest ones always seem to be the late ones and they're also the ones that want discounts all the time.

Although some uber corporations I do work for pay early (for a 1% discount, which is fine to me) and don't blink when the price is quoted for highly custom jobs.
 
2012-08-08 10:43:01 AM

Alphax: Well, that's something you don't see every day. Or ever.


My Dad had a card from a past CEO of Marcus Theaters that for a year allowed him and a guest entrance to any movie he wanted. Unlimited uses. Saw a lot of movies with my dad that year.

Just a csb I guess.
 
2012-08-08 10:56:25 AM

fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.


Yep. It is kind of like with Bain Capital where Mitt wants to use his time there as an example of his business experience, yet wants to claim no responsibilities for the negatives that happened while he was officially listed as CEO. Here Mitt wants to be associated with his dad's integrity by telling cute stories of his father, but he totally avoids doing the actions his dad did to achieve his reputation for integrity.
 
2012-08-08 10:58:33 AM

keylock71: Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.


kind of looks like a dong
 
2012-08-08 10:59:10 AM

foo monkey: I'm ready to vote for George Romney. Can I do that?


George Romney was a damn good governor and did a lot for Michigan. His son is scum though. Kind of like Bush Senior vs W really.
 
2012-08-08 11:02:27 AM

KellyX: Sounds like some companies I sell to... the richest ones always seem to be the late ones and they're also the ones that want discounts all the time.

Although some uber corporations I do work for pay early (for a 1% discount, which is fine to me) and don't blink when the price is quoted for highly custom jobs.


Yep... I actually prefer working with small local businesses and start ups, myself. The pay day is usually a lot smaller, but I love driving around town and seeing my work... especially if it's helping the business grow or get off the ground.

Too much bullshiat associated with large companies and you hardly ever get to meet/talk with the real decision maker.
 
2012-08-08 11:02:42 AM
"I found a little paper card, a little pink card, and it said this entitles George W. Romney to a lifetime of a hamburger, a shake and French fries at McDonald's. It was signed by the hand of Ray Kroc.

Mitt, you're no George Romney. Kroc didn't say you could have a lifetime supply of McDonald's, he said your dad could.
 
2012-08-08 11:03:40 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.

kind of looks like a dong


If that's what your dong looks like, you need to see a doctor immediately... or get yourself into the Porn Industry ASAP.
 
2012-08-08 11:07:19 AM

heavymetal: fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.

Yep. It is kind of like with Bain Capital where Mitt wants to use his time there as an example of his business experience, yet wants to claim no responsibilities for the negatives that happened while he was officially listed as CEO. Here Mitt wants to be associated with his dad's integrity by telling cute stories of his father, but he totally avoids doing the actions his dad did to achieve his reputation for integrity.


Mitt wants to get the credit for "saving" the 2002 Olympics, but how many of you knew that it was ~$342,000,000 from DC and ~$1 BILLION in "indirect financing" from DC that actually saved the games?

Let's hear from 2001 Mitt: "Without question, we simply could not host Games in Salt Lake if it were not for the enormous spending and services of the federal government." (testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee)

He didn't build that.
 
2012-08-08 11:12:35 AM

lennavan: Alphax: Well, that's something you don't see every day. Or ever.

My Dad had a card from a past CEO of Marcus Theaters that for a year allowed him and a guest entrance to any movie he wanted. Unlimited uses. Saw a lot of movies with my dad that year.

Just a csb I guess.


American Airlines once sold a "take you and your companion for free anywhere in the world in first class whenever you want to" pass. Granted, it wasn't a giveaway and cost something like $100k, but they are now kicking themselves because there are a few people who still use them to travel around the world twenty times a year-the amount of money they are losing on the passes is insane.
 
2012-08-08 11:15:17 AM

qorkfiend: MithrandirBooga: keylock71: So, I guess Romney only supports "free meals" for the wealthy...

You know, I did some identity work for a small restaurant in my city pro bono and the owner said I could eat for free whenever I wanted. The food was pretty damn good (gourmet burgers) and the wife and I ate there once a week or so... I never mentioned the owner's offer when the bill came even though I probably could have used the extra 20 bucks in my pocket.

That they actually used that McDonald's card says a lot about the Romney's to me.


It's not at all surprising.

"I don't pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires." - Rmoney


"I don't pay more for McDonalds than is legally due because I've got this handy little eat-for-free-for-life card here. Frankly if I had actually paid for my food, I don't think I'd be qualified to become president. I'd think people would want me to eat for free."

This is how a normal person might say that: "I don't pay less taxes than are legally due, and frankly if I had paid less than are legally due I don't think I'd be qualified to become president." Compare this to how Mitt Romney says it.


The problem with this is that it undermines the thinking that "the rich already pay their fair share". If it's shown that Romney actually paid no or almost no taxes, then the arguement that "the rich aren't paying enough" gets a boost.
 
2012-08-08 11:48:32 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.

kind of looks like a dong


Perhaps but I would make sure your tetanus shots are up-to-date before giving it a go.
 
2012-08-08 11:54:25 AM

fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.


But if Mitt uses that card for himself, wouldn't that look just like the privileged exploiting their position in life?
 
2012-08-08 11:56:17 AM
We could have had George Romney for President instead of Nixon. Now there's an interesting alternate-history exercise.
 
2012-08-08 12:00:52 PM
And he would present this little card and of course the person behind the counter would look and say, 'Well, what is that?' They'd never seen something like that, but he said it was never turned down. They always honored it."


How do we know they didn't forge it to get free food?
 
2012-08-08 12:13:58 PM

impaler: And he would present this little card and of course the person behind the counter would look and say, 'Well, what is that?' They'd never seen something like that, but he said it was never turned down. They always honored it."


How do we know they didn't forge it to get free food?


Presumably they didn't. Consider the choice - give out a free hamburger/shake/fries and take the $1 hit to profit that day, or risk pissing off a personal friend of the guy who pretty much established McDonalds?
 
2012-08-08 12:51:25 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is yet another big, fat lie, possibly wrapped around a tiny kernel of truth. Mr. Romney has a well-known penchant for inventing anecdotes to suit his needs, and this seems like one of them. Ray Kroc may have given Romney Senior that card, but he certainly didn't go to McDonald's "almost every day" and Romney's thin anecdote ("my father the governor knew famous rich guys") can hardly serve to convey the story he wants to project ("I'm a man of the people, just like my much-more-likable-than-me father").

Also, he was going through his dad's sock drawer looking for stuff? Methinks Romney Sr. subscribed to Playboy.
 
2012-08-08 12:53:10 PM

Here'sJohnny: Anybody surprised by the fact that the Romneys used the card has never had a conversation with a rich person. Most of them are incredibly frugal/cheap to a point that seems ridiculous to most people. Doesn't it make intuitive sense that a person with a lot of money has a tendency towards accumualting money rather than spending it?


The how do you explain the mansions and dressage horses? A true miser would live in a hovel whilst hording his wealth.
 
2012-08-08 01:02:52 PM

James F. Campbell: Hold on. I think the most important thing about this story is that Mitt is basically admitting that he is a psychopath:

"You know how boys liked to go through their dad's top drawer, just to sort of see what he has in there, maybe find an old coin he might not miss or whatever, " Romney told a group of donors at a Chicago fundraiser this afternoon.

Mitt Romney stole from his own father as a child. o_o

Sure, I know what you're thinking, "Big farking deal. You're blowing this out of proportion. Gosh, Mitt Romney sure is sooo dreamy" -- but why didn't Mitt just say, "I was just being nosy and looking through my dad's stuff"? That's understandable. But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.


.... damn.
 
2012-08-08 01:11:37 PM

Headso: James F. Campbell: But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.

Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.


No one asked Romney if he'd stolen as a child. He volunteered extra information, himself.

People's reasons for stealing are different. There's a difference between 'stealing because he's not going to miss it' and 'stealing because i didn't consider it stealing because what belongs to dad belongs to me' and 'stealing because it reminds me of sentimental reason x'.

Romney was looking specifically for coins to take from his father. Romney had everything in his life already given to him, all he need do is ask. He had shiat handed to him without being asked. And yet, here, he's going through his father's drawers -- the head of household, the ruler -- in order to take *more* because he is sure his father has so much he isn't going to miss this little loss.

Romney wasn't looking for nudie pics, or chocolates, or jewelry. He wasn't looking for forbidden papers. He wasn't looking for drugs. He wasn't looking for a tie or article of clothing or a lighter or some such to better connect with his father by wearing or holding in secret. He was looking for money. Why would someone who already has everything, want even more? What exactly was he going to do with that money once he stole it from the head of household?

It wasn't to buy bread or milk, to be able to eat.
It wasn't to buy the old man a present with his own money.
It wasn't to buy a girl a gift.
It wasn't to buy a nudie mag or smokes.

Or was it any of these things?
 
2012-08-08 01:21:45 PM

heavymetal: fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.

Yep. It is kind of like with Bain Capital where Mitt wants to use his time there as an example of his business experience, yet wants to claim no responsibilities for the negatives that happened while he was officially listed as CEO. Here Mitt wants to be associated with his dad's integrity by telling cute stories of his father, but he totally avoids doing the actions his dad did to achieve his reputation for integrity.


That's the other thing that bothers me. We keep hearing about George this and George that out of Mitt and Stepford Ann's mouth. George ain't running. What has Mitt done? Why is he trying to run on his father's life and his father's anecdotes? This makes no sense. Is he not his own man? And ... like you're getting at .. if he wants to have people associate his father with him, then why doesn't he act more like his dad?
 
2012-08-08 01:24:33 PM
The simplest common-man stories and he can't even get these right.

'I'm just like you, I eat at McDonald's!'
'YAAAAAY!'
'Except my dad got a card from Ray Kroc himself that allows me to eat at McDonald's free for life! I still have it!'
'...wait, what?'
 
2012-08-08 01:24:42 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Headso: James F. Campbell: But looking through his dad's stuff in order to find something to take? That's not relatable. In fact, it's indicative of psychopathy.

Usually on those psych tests you might have to take for various jobs the question "have you ever stolen anything as a child" is in there to judge how honestly you are taking the test because almost everyone has stolen something as a child.

No one asked Romney if he'd stolen as a child. He volunteered extra information, himself.

People's reasons for stealing are different. There's a difference between 'stealing because he's not going to miss it' and 'stealing because i didn't consider it stealing because what belongs to dad belongs to me' and 'stealing because it reminds me of sentimental reason x'.

Romney was looking specifically for coins to take from his father. Romney had everything in his life already given to him, all he need do is ask. He had shiat handed to him without being asked. And yet, here, he's going through his father's drawers -- the head of household, the ruler -- in order to take *more* because he is sure his father has so much he isn't going to miss this little loss.

Romney wasn't looking for nudie pics, or chocolates, or jewelry. He wasn't looking for forbidden papers. He wasn't looking for drugs. He wasn't looking for a tie or article of clothing or a lighter or some such to better connect with his father by wearing or holding in secret. He was looking for money. Why would someone who already has everything, want even more? What exactly was he going to do with that money once he stole it from the head of household?

It wasn't to buy bread or milk, to be able to eat.
It wasn't to buy the old man a present with his own money.
It wasn't to buy a girl a gift.
It wasn't to buy a nudie mag or smokes.

Or was it any of these things?


Of course, there's a very real possibility that nothing was stolen at all. There was no "free lunch card". The entire story may have been a lie.
 
2012-08-08 01:24:55 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: if he wants to have people associate his father with him, then why doesn't he act more like his dad?


Because today's GOP would call him a "RINO" and wouldn't vote for him...
 
2012-08-08 01:34:02 PM
So wait, NBC, this is the heat with Caster Semenya in it, a medal contender yet, and we're basically going to ignore her because there's an American in the heat too? Are you even TRYING?
 
2012-08-08 01:34:40 PM
...AACK

(shuffles away)
 
2012-08-08 02:04:13 PM

More_Like_A_Stain:
Of course, there's a very real possibility that nothing was stolen at all. There was no "free lunch card". TThe entire story may have been a lie.


That goes back to Headso's psych test, and people lying in order to appear better than they really are, though.

How is a story about a rich boy who goes through his father's things looking for money, finding a card that enables his father to get food for free, and basking in forcing minimum wage workers to confront their own ignorance without prior enlightenment from their own company or access to such a card again from their own company, by having them prepare that food for free when his family could just as easily pay.... how is that supposed to make the rich boy look better than he really is?

If it is a lie, what does it say about Romney, that *that* is the type of image he sees as idealized? What is his truth, if this is his lie?

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keylock71: ExperianScaresCthulhu: if he wants to have people associate his father with him, then why doesn't he act more like his dad?

Because today's GOP would call him a "RINO" and wouldn't vote for him...


Except that the GOP called Mitt a RINO up until April, and then the usual 'fall in line despite our differences in order to present a unified front' happened. That's the entire problem with this candidacy. It's also the entire problem with people who vote for parties instead of principles. Nothing adds up. If having Obama is going to destroy the fabric of America...................... why vote in Mitt?

If this is a way of making the GOP more liberal, more to the left, in the coming years........ because this is the way to get votes, for better or worse... I'd rather they just be open about it. With Obama you know what you're getting. With Romney, you are going to get the same thing.. and this time, without any leverage because Dems will shrug, and Republicans are not going to want to impeach or remove or impede their own party because solidarity means more than platform.

This isn't chess. I don't know what this is. Somebody's having a great big laugh about it, though.
 
2012-08-08 02:11:19 PM
For everyone else, impersonating an officer, demanding free food at McDonalds is a crime.

Pops, SFW
 
2012-08-08 02:24:53 PM
This Ashton Eaton guy is really good, and Hardee is not far behind him in the decathlon.
 
2012-08-08 02:26:48 PM

bborchar: This Ashton Eaton guy is really good, and Hardee is not far behind him in the decathlon.


Ugh, wrong thread. Sorry.
 
2012-08-08 03:15:49 PM
The story reminds me less of just how out of touch Mittens is as it reminds me of the Lindsay Lohan/free Carvel ice cream card tabloid story from a few years back. Mitt's reminding me of a Lohan relative sponging off of the famous relative's success.
 
2012-08-08 04:03:33 PM
This is an OUTRAGE!
 
2012-08-08 04:11:05 PM

I alone am best: This is an OUTRAGE!


It's not an outrage. It's one more upward tick in the Mitt Romney creep-o-meter.
 
2012-08-08 05:21:55 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That goes back to Headso's psych test, and people lying in order to appear better than they really are, though.

How is a story about a rich boy who goes through his father's things looking for money, finding a card that enables his father to get food for free, and basking in forcing minimum wage workers to confront their own ignorance without prior enlightenment from their own company or access to such a card again from their own company, by having them prepare that food for free when his family could just as easily pay.... how is that supposed to make the rich boy look better than he really is?



You are assuming that there is a tangible benefit to be gained by the lie. To some people, simply telling the lie *is* the benefit. There is no more. They got away with another one, simple as that. He gets to say to himself, "Look at those stupid farkers. They know that I can't even be trusted to give them the correct time of day, and they just bought another line of total bullshiat".
 
2012-08-08 09:20:16 PM

heavymetal: fracto: HMS_Blinkin: Sounds like George earned the "honor" of eating at McDick's for free, but......

It's just bad optics. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, the idea that George Romney never had to buy lunch isn't going to sit well with regular people who DO have to pony up a few bucks for that burger and fries. The man of almost unlimited means gets free food, while the rest of us have to pay for it. NOT SOMETHING YOU BRAG ABOUT, MITT!


I dislike Romney as much as the next guy, but I don't see it that way. To me it looks like his dad helped McD's when it was just starting and the owner appreciated the help quite a bit. It makes him (Romney's Dad) look more like a good guy. Romney's dad also released his taxes. Too bad his dad isn't the one running.

Yep. It is kind of like with Bain Capital where Mitt wants to use his time there as an example of his business experience, yet wants to claim no responsibilities for the negatives that happened while he was officially listed as CEO. Here Mitt wants to be associated with his dad's integrity by telling cute stories of his father, but he totally avoids doing the actions his dad did to achieve his reputation for integrity.


The thing is, it probably isn't corporate that eats the cost of the meal. It's the franchisee, the small businessman who loses. The multi-millionaire dings the little guy. Now THAT is bad optics.
 
2012-08-08 09:30:09 PM

mrshowrules: Jackson Herring: keylock71: Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.

kind of looks like a dong

Perhaps but I would make sure your tetanus shots are up-to-date before giving it a go.


I really hope that thing was thoroughly demiled before your dad brought it home.
 
2012-08-08 10:28:35 PM

mr intrepid: mrshowrules: Jackson Herring: keylock71: Best I could find out after he died was it's a 75mm shrapnel shell from WWII.

kind of looks like a dong

Perhaps but I would make sure your tetanus shots are up-to-date before giving it a go.

I really hope that thing was thoroughly demiled before your dad brought it home.


Yep... Completely emptied. It's a great place to stash stuff, too.
 
2012-08-09 12:18:11 PM

Dr Dreidel: How did George Romney make it to age 88 eating McD's every morning?

Also, I thought Romney's dad was off limits, and bringing him up - even for a retelling of actual, undeniable historical fact - was disrespectful to the Romneys, to politics in general, to Mormonism, and to America. I guess this is like Palin's kids - it's only OK if THEY bring it up.

// but you can't respond


I'd really appreciate it if they stop talking about Romney's family for this exact reason. It's really dishonorable to put ANY politician's family in the spotlight, and Obama recognizes that.

And then Ann or Mitt open their mouths, and we're in a really awkward place. It's like when everyone thinks that the other guys' favorite resturaunt is the gutbomb place downtown so you all end up there after this big 'well X likes it' 'no, no, Y likes it' 'really, no, Z loves it here, you will too' argument and everyone's trying to find food they can eat while staring awkwardly at the bad decor.

Like going to McDonald's, in other words.
 
2012-08-09 05:45:30 PM
^^^^^^^Georptf mentioned the American Airlines program of the 1980s, with the lifetime pass (apparently w/companion) you could buy for several hundred thousands of dollars.

I had never heard of this, but damned it wasn't in the news recently:

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/08/152286127/american-tries-to-take-back-u n limited-airfare

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/05/business/la-fi-0506-golden-ti c ket-20120506

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Yes, the McDonalds menu was *much* simpler 50 years ago. But, I think the price of a hamburger has always been about 1/8 of a hour's minimum wage--someone wanna do the math?
 
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