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(SeattlePI)   For the record, if you're a naturopathic physician treating patients at a concert called Hempfest and you end up recommending medical marijuana cards for 200 people, the Department of Health is probably going to ask you some questions   (seattlepi.com) divider line 20
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2012-08-08 10:03:35 AM  
5 votes:
This stupid decriminalization thing is the worst of all situations. Just make it farking legal and be done with it.
2012-08-08 12:07:46 PM  
4 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Satanic_Hamster: AeAe: Satanic_Hamster: See, potheads? This is why a lot of people don't take the arguments for medical marijuana seriously. Even people who think it should be legalized entirely.

Just because a lot people fake a condition so they can get weed doesn't mean it not medically efficacious.

Yes, I know that (and agree with that). But perception is key for a lot of people. If the number of obvious "fakers" is too large and blatant about it, far fewer people will take the legitimate arguments seriously.

Pretty much. They're not being smart about this, at all.


On the contrary, I feel that it's just proof that prohibition is ineffective. I have a medical card for a bogus reason because I would rather not have to serve time in double digits for an 8th. Do I smoke it because I like it? Heck yes. Do I think that people who have a genuine medical problem should have access to it? Of course! Is this prohibition helping anybody? Absolutely not.
2012-08-08 10:48:18 AM  
4 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: See, potheads? This is why a lot of people don't take the arguments for medical marijuana seriously. Even people who think it should be legalized entirely.


Just because a lot people fake a condition so they can get weed doesn't mean it not medically efficacious.
2012-08-08 10:14:43 AM  
3 votes:

trappedspirit: Hey, doc. I got this medical problem. It's called being out of weeditis.


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I actually got diagnosed with an arthritic spine yesterday (I'm just shy of 28), which is one of the things weed can for-real-life actually help. Not that Illinois will ever legalize medicinal marijuana for anyone who can't buy an alderman, but it does make a case for moving to a more enlightened state. It's probably better long term to get high a few times a week rather than burn a hole in my stomach with NSAIDs.
2012-08-08 03:20:19 PM  
2 votes:

alice_600: BTW no matter what you say it's still smoke your inhaling.


Except our lungs don't care about generic "smoke", in the abstract. They care about very specific kinds of particles and do an excellent job of trapping most particles in the mucus and kick that junk right back out. Tobacco smoke, in specific, contains a bunch of stuff that specifically make the tobacco smoke easier, and have the side effect of increasing how difficult it is for our lungs to filter out, and specifically cause problems. They've absolutely ruled out moderate use damaging lungs, and recent studies are starting to add up that indicate that marijuana stimulates your lungs enough to produce extra mucus, but comes out cleanly, with the end result being low level smokers have health benefits from the smoke.

It's a fun drug, and a powerful tool. That won't stop other powerful tools from being unable to control themselves faced with temptation.
2012-08-08 02:41:05 PM  
2 votes:

CrappityCrap: "medical marijuana" Haha. That's the funniest oxymoron I've ever heard.


Your name is appropriate to your opinion.
2012-08-08 02:03:24 PM  
2 votes:

BronyMedic: Well, the first thing is that if you call yourself a "naturopathic" physician, you should be pointed at and laughed at, and your patents need to run. Run far, far away. Alternative medicine is a great way to end up dead after they take your money while selling you false hope and snake oil.

/What's the harm? - http://whatstheharm.net/naturopathy.html

Bruxellensis: These card holders (the ones who don't have legit medical need) aren't the violent drug ring type, they're the harmless recreational types who just want to enjoy it without the risk.

And these people do more to hurt the pro-legalization movement than anything else, and they also hurt the side of legitimate medical uses for cannabinoid compounds.


That's only true because ignorant (and/or staunchly anti-MJ) people see it from the wrong perspective. It's labeled as corrupt and immoral, yet it's painting a bigger picture that people need to see: people want to enjoy a relatively harmless drug without legal risk, and without risk of violent crime that's sometimes associated with the black market. It shows that people are willing to jump through a few hoops and pay a fee to do what they've already been doing, but with significantly reduced risk to themselves and others. These people aren't the violent criminal types that are often included with the stigma of people involved with illegal drugs.
2012-08-08 11:16:15 AM  
2 votes:
And not a single person was harmed that day...
2012-08-08 10:13:00 AM  
2 votes:
Does this mean we can finally stop issuing medical licenses to quacks naturopaths?
2012-08-09 10:07:19 AM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: In the November issue of Chest Physician, the association of regular marijuana smoking with chronic respiratory symptoms was examined in three published studies of young and middle aged adults residing in Los Angeles, California, Wellington, New Zealand and Tuscon, Arizona. All three studies showed a correlation between the smoking of marijuana and chronic bronchitis, independent of the effects of cigarette smoking.

Goddamnit, you true believers are disingenuous.


dafuq? Riiiiiight.

Oh, and that's not death, not even cancer.

Oh, and another thing - from wiki:
Chronic bronchitis, a type of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, is characterized by the presence of a productive cough that lasts for three months or more per year for at least two years. Chronic bronchitis most often develops due to recurrent injury to the airways caused by inhaled irritants. Cigarette smoking is the most common cause, followed by air pollution and occupational exposure to irritants.[1]

So they somehow decided that their cigarette smoking had nothing to do with it, and it was all the pot they were smoking. I see. And you believe that?

God, you haters are so disingenuous.
2012-08-08 01:38:48 PM  
1 votes:
Well, the first thing is that if you call yourself a "naturopathic" physician, you should be pointed at and laughed at, and your patents need to run. Run far, far away. Alternative medicine is a great way to end up dead after they take your money while selling you false hope and snake oil.

/What's the harm? - http://whatstheharm.net/naturopathy.html

Bruxellensis: These card holders (the ones who don't have legit medical need) aren't the violent drug ring type, they're the harmless recreational types who just want to enjoy it without the risk.

And these people do more to hurt the pro-legalization movement than anything else, and they also hurt the side of legitimate medical uses for cannabinoid compounds.
2012-08-08 01:17:21 PM  
1 votes:
then if that's the case and Pot is such a damn cure. It shouldn't be a smoking drug. Nope it should be a pill dispensed by the government via a pharmacy. No head shops or anything. BTW no matter what you say it's still smoke your inhaling.
2012-08-08 12:25:01 PM  
1 votes:
In other news, Department of Health protects profits of Big Pharma, Tobabacoo and Alcohol.
2012-08-08 12:10:55 PM  
1 votes:
I need to get that small toad or dwarf living in my stomach high so it will stop causing bad body humors.
2012-08-08 11:22:29 AM  
1 votes:

AeAe: Satanic_Hamster: See, potheads? This is why a lot of people don't take the arguments for medical marijuana seriously. Even people who think it should be legalized entirely.

Just because a lot people fake a condition so they can get weed doesn't mean it not medically efficacious.


Yes, I know that (and agree with that). But perception is key for a lot of people. If the number of obvious "fakers" is too large and blatant about it, far fewer people will take the legitimate arguments seriously.
2012-08-08 10:55:35 AM  
1 votes:
A more important question is why naturopathic "doctors" are allowed to prescribe anything. By definition they are quacks, unfit to be dispensing any sort of medical advice let alone prescription drugs.
2012-08-08 10:46:09 AM  
1 votes:
Naturopathic "physician"? I thought that was some sort of contradiction in terms. You know, just like how chiropractors and dentists aren't real doctors either.
2012-08-08 10:38:34 AM  
1 votes:
See, potheads? This is why a lot of people don't take the arguments for medical marijuana seriously. Even people who think it should be legalized entirely.
2012-08-08 10:04:33 AM  
1 votes:
Hey, doc. I got this medical problem. It's called being out of weeditis.
2012-08-08 10:02:07 AM  
1 votes:
But I can still keep my card right?
 
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