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2012-08-08 09:58:12 AM

Kthulu: Better yet, brew beer at home that satisfies your own preferences.


www.bestbeerbuzz.com

Mr. Beer to the rescue!
 
2012-08-08 10:14:44 AM

your average maint. man: Pocket Ninja: Ah, yes, there's nothing like the quality of small-batch American beer. Hops rolled in hops, blended with some light hops to bring out the hops, then accented with some heavier hops and medium-bodied hops to evoke a true hoppy blend of hops. With some hops added just to create a final hoppiness on the end that can only be attributed to hops.

thanks PN, now i'm feeling hoppy.


Aarontology: Yep. This IPA has a red label. This IPA has a blue one. This IPA has a neat drawing of a dog, this IPA with a fish. This IPA has a storm on it.

Or perhaps you'd like an IPA? Maybe an IPA for a change of pace. Or if you're in an IPA mood, we have these thirty IPAs. And here we have a wonderful IPA to cleanse the pallet. Oh, you'd like a specialty beer, from the select line of every brewery? Well her we have their take on the IPA.


Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
 
2012-08-08 10:15:06 AM

ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.


0/10. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
2012-08-08 10:16:04 AM
And in this fashion, the beer bubble grew and grew.
 
2012-08-08 10:16:40 AM
Yeah, but how are we doing on drunk-driving deaths? Are we at a 125-year high yet? Come on people, get drinking! We can kill more!

/supports SAFER substances
 
2012-08-08 10:27:35 AM

turboke: I'm really happy for you guys but I'm not impressed. Belgium has about 1 brewery per 400 km², the USA has 1 per 4600 km².

/waits for someone to do the math for inhabited area instead of total area
//XKCD should turn that into an infograph!


So?

Belgium has 1 brewery per every 13500 Flemish speakers.

The US has 1 brewery per every 71 Flemish speakers.
 
2012-08-08 10:35:42 AM

ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.


Well played, Sir.
 
2012-08-08 10:37:47 AM

wardlyone: ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.

Well played, Sir.


No, it wasn't. It was a sad, tired, feeble attempt at trolling.
 
2012-08-08 10:43:42 AM
I suspect that there will be a poor hop harvest this year, so we will see a resurgence of the other 217 styles. Yes, this is a repeat from 2007.

I was in Reno a few weeks ago and my wife told the bartender I was a S.N.O.B. He, quite naturally, pulled a sample of their IPA. I gave it the full BJCP: 29 points. Mono-note hop aroma, little maltiness, harshly bitter up front. Had their porter, which was about a 45.
 
2012-08-08 10:44:05 AM

calm like a bomb: wardlyone: ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.

Well played, Sir.

No, it wasn't. It was a sad, tired, feeble attempt at trolling.


Hey, at least they're finally off the 57 states thing only took them 4 years...
 
2012-08-08 10:47:45 AM
Headline correction: Number of U.S. breweries at an all-time drunk

/I love IPAs, but can we get some more stouts and porters up in here?
 
2012-08-08 10:48:11 AM

odinsposse:
Exactly. I'm not an IPA fan but I have a huge selection of beers to drink. Right now I have this, this, and this in my fridge.

Allagash Curieux is not merely a "beer," it is heavenly nectar sent from above to bring us joy, light, and goodness.
 
2012-08-08 10:53:17 AM

wardlyone: ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.

Well played, Sir.


No it wasn't.
 
2012-08-08 10:56:27 AM

This text is now purple: turboke: I'm really happy for you guys but I'm not impressed. Belgium has about 1 brewery per 400 km², the USA has 1 per 4600 km².

/waits for someone to do the math for inhabited area instead of total area
//XKCD should turn that into an infograph!

So?

Belgium has 1 brewery per every 13500 Flemish speakers.

The US has 1 brewery per every 71 Flemish speakers.


Niiiice.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:22 AM
I guess we have reached peak hops.


Been drinking the Boulevard Single Wide IPA this week. I personally like it. Would like to try the Double Wide IPA but it is pricey and times are still a bit tough.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:39 AM

ctt1wbw: Got a small brewery? You didn't build that.


Fun fact: I actually did build my small brewery.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:51 AM

Kthulu: Teknowaffle: I came in to complain about the saturation of the microbrew market with overhopped IPAs. Looks like I am not alone.

No, sir, you are not. I love a balanced, well-crafted IPA, but most of them are just hipsters hop bombs. Tons of other delicious styles to enjoy.

Better yet, brew beer at home that satisfies your own preferences.


As do I, and I have one bottled. It's in the mid range of bitterness for normal (non imperial) american IPA, nice malty balance, easy on the flavor and aroma hops. Also have a kolsch and dunkleweisen we were sampling last night at poker. Yay homebrew!
 
2012-08-08 11:09:32 AM

Carn: Kthulu: Teknowaffle: I came in to complain about the saturation of the microbrew market with overhopped IPAs. Looks like I am not alone.

No, sir, you are not. I love a balanced, well-crafted IPA, but most of them are just hipsters hop bombs. Tons of other delicious styles to enjoy.

Better yet, brew beer at home that satisfies your own preferences.

As do I, and I have one bottled. It's in the mid range of bitterness for normal (non imperial) american IPA, nice malty balance, easy on the flavor and aroma hops. Also have a kolsch and dunkleweisen we were sampling last night at poker. Yay homebrew!


I'll drink to that. I make IPAs several times a year, but I make them more balanced than the "hop-war" driven crap that's on the shelves. I stick to the 55-60 IBU range, but I get all of the IBUs from late addition hop charges - no 60 or 90 minute additions at all. An 11 gallon batch would end up with about a pound of hops in it, but since they're all added late, the bitterness is surprisingly calm. This, on top of dry hopping, gives wonderful aroma, but a nice balanced bitterness. I also use a small percentage of munich and honey malts in the mash to contrast the slight bitterness perception. It's a very good, and very sessionable brew.

However, I primarily make German style lagers, stouts, porters, Trappist style strong ales, and lambics/gueuze/krieks.
 
2012-08-08 11:10:59 AM
So....any of these breweries hiring a homebrewer/weldor? Ill bring samples of my wares!
 
2012-08-08 11:28:49 AM

Bruxellensis: Carn: Kthulu: Teknowaffle: I came in to complain about the saturation of the microbrew market with overhopped IPAs. Looks like I am not alone.

No, sir, you are not. I love a balanced, well-crafted IPA, but most of them are just hipsters hop bombs. Tons of other delicious styles to enjoy.

Better yet, brew beer at home that satisfies your own preferences.

As do I, and I have one bottled. It's in the mid range of bitterness for normal (non imperial) american IPA, nice malty balance, easy on the flavor and aroma hops. Also have a kolsch and dunkleweisen we were sampling last night at poker. Yay homebrew!

I'll drink to that. I make IPAs several times a year, but I make them more balanced than the "hop-war" driven crap that's on the shelves. I stick to the 55-60 IBU range, but I get all of the IBUs from late addition hop charges - no 60 or 90 minute additions at all. An 11 gallon batch would end up with about a pound of hops in it, but since they're all added late, the bitterness is surprisingly calm. This, on top of dry hopping, gives wonderful aroma, but a nice balanced bitterness. I also use a small percentage of munich and honey malts in the mash to contrast the slight bitterness perception. It's a very good, and very sessionable brew.

However, I primarily make German style lagers, stouts, porters, Trappist style strong ales, and lambics/gueuze/krieks.


I love hope aroma but I've found that some of my friends who aren't as beer nerdy perceive the hope aroma and flavor as just bitterness as opposed to citrusy, floral or whatever. I'm overdue for another belgian brew - maybe a trippel. I also want to make a cider and it's time for an octoberfest!
 
2012-08-08 11:32:28 AM
I was very happy to see all the comments about how many god damn IPAs are out there.
 
2012-08-08 11:44:59 AM

busy chillin': I guess we have reached peak hops.


Been drinking the Boulevard Single Wide IPA this week. I personally like it. Would like to try the Double Wide IPA but it is pricey and times are still a bit tough.


they have a Hoppy Wheat that should be out by the end of the summer, will be part of the 6-pk line, got to try it when I was at the brewery, very tasty
 
2012-08-08 11:53:20 AM
I love living in Vermont.

Hill Farmstead Edward.

That is all.
 
2012-08-08 12:04:12 PM

Pocket Ninja: Ah, yes, there's nothing like the quality of small-batch American beer. Hops rolled in hops, blended with some light hops to bring out the hops, then accented with some heavier hops and medium-bodied hops to evoke a true hoppy blend of hops. With some hops added just to create a final hoppiness on the end that can only be attributed to hops.


This. Most of the ones I've tried taste absolutely the same; like ass. Hop-flavored ass. I think the last one I tried had grit from ground hops in it.
 
2012-08-08 12:13:13 PM
Metalupis

they have a Hoppy Wheat that should be out by the end of the summer, will be part of the 6-pk line, got to try it when I was at the brewery, very tasty

Boulevard does good, so I will keep that in mind. Their Nutcracker Ale and Bully! Porter are two of my favorites.

/hop head not a hipster
 
2012-08-08 12:16:25 PM
beeradvocate.com

Looking forward to ski season in Wyoming
 
2012-08-08 12:18:02 PM

slidillon: Some people like a little taste in their beers. Others complain there's too much hops.

I prefer the Dopplebocks and Belgian Quads myself, but do enjoy a good IPA. Hops more greatly affect the flavor of a beer than any other ingredient so it seems obvious this is where you can make the beer most unique and stand out.


Hops are also good for hiding off-flavors.
 
2012-08-08 12:33:55 PM

busy chillin': Metalupis

they have a Hoppy Wheat that should be out by the end of the summer, will be part of the 6-pk line, got to try it when I was at the brewery, very tasty

Boulevard does good, so I will keep that in mind. Their Nutcracker Ale and Bully! Porter are two of my favorites.

/hop head not a hipster


my two favorites from them are the Sixth Glass and the Bob's 47 Octoberfest (which should be out soon, looking forward to that)
 
2012-08-08 12:43:21 PM
Next trend in brewing: Beard yeast!!!!

Link

Ewwwwww.
 
2012-08-08 12:43:27 PM
Metalupis

my two favorites from them are the Sixth Glass and the Bob's 47 Octoberfest (which should be out soon, looking forward to that)

I've only had Sixth Glass once, I liked it for sure. Bob's 47 is great. It might be time to pick that up again.
 
2012-08-08 12:47:34 PM

Crazy Joe Davola: By contrast, overall U.S. beer ales are believed to be up about 1 percent this year, with most of that growth due to the extra day on the calendar because this is a leap year, Gatza said.

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userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-08-08 12:51:20 PM
My favorite beer is free.
 
2012-08-08 01:30:15 PM
Looks like Colorado's annual "we're in the shadow of Wisconsin's brewing industry so we're gonna put out another Colorado microbrewery story" story.

/rolleyes
//New Glarus rules!!!
 
2012-08-08 01:52:28 PM

Mattbastard: Looks like Colorado's annual "we're in the shadow of Wisconsin's brewing industry so we're gonna put out another Colorado microbrewery story" story.

/rolleyes
//New Glarus rules!!!


it is pretty awesome, it is my favorite beer that I can't get regularly
 
2012-08-08 02:49:56 PM
Wow, seems some mods can't take a joke.
 
2012-08-08 02:52:36 PM
beer.womenshealthmag.com
 
2012-08-08 03:05:48 PM
JUST GET ME SOME BUD LIGHT PLATINUM BRO. YOU CHUG THAT shiat, YOU GET RIPPED REAL HARD BRO
 
2012-08-08 03:37:33 PM
I like the "Nut brown ale" and "American Pale Ale" made locally by Blackstone brewery.
 
2012-08-08 03:54:17 PM

Crudbucket: For the discerning, non-hopheaded beer lover:

[foundersbrewing.com image 256x790]


Win.
 
2012-08-08 04:18:58 PM

BeezyBates: Crazy Joe Davola: By contrast, overall U.S. beer ales are believed to be up about 1 percent this year, with most of that growth due to the extra day on the calendar because this is a leap year, Gatza said.

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I think..... they meant to write "Beer SALES" , at least I hope they did....

Frank N Stein: Beer bubble?


There are concerns in the trenches.... over all this surge in sales and new start-ups is a good thing, but Ive been in this field for 12+ years and we survived the last great bubble burst. A lot of the same things are happening again. Big Hoppy beers were all the rage back then as well. and we had a lot of mediocre beers on the market with lots of silly names and it over saturated the market to the point that the public gave up on them all.

The concern now is that the market will become saturated again, siphoning off sales from the established, existing brands that survived the last bubble, and ultimatly causing another consumer backlash.

its great for consumers, don't get me wrong, it's a great time to be a beer geek. I'm just worried how the market will sustain itself in the long run. in particular to big hoppy beers. I'm already seeing a backlash starting, and this thread is great evidence of the trembling tides.

for one thing... all these start up's are all putting out IPA's as thier flagships. and its a one trick pony. and they also consider that its going to put a strain on the hop market in general. Most breweries of any size have contracts with the hop growers for a certain amount of the crop for a certain amount of time, most contracts are for between 3-5 years, with all excess going to the secondary market. all these start ups are going to be relying on that excess. and they are going to get into bidding wars over that stock. keep in mind that the worlds hop production is only something like 850k acres...

If all these guys are all just one trick hop bomb ponies, and are relying on that to survive, they are going to have a very rude awakening.

the other danger is people trying to cash in, like restaurant folks who start up a brewpub, but haven't the foggiest idea how to make beer, or run a brewery. I saw that happen all the time back in the day... and it was a big part of that bubble popping... decent food, great decor, shiatty beer.

At least the new trend is towards production, and distribution networks are more open now.
 
2012-08-08 05:24:18 PM

Cerebral Knievel: the other danger is people trying to cash in, like restaurant folks who start up a brewpub, but haven't the foggiest idea how to make beer, or run a brewery. I saw that happen all the time back in the day... and it was a big part of that bubble popping... decent food, great decor, shiatty beer.


*cough*Big Buck Brewery*cough

As to the rest of your point, I totally agree. It's gotten to the point that the shelves are littered with microbrews that I don't even bother trying anymore. I used to pick up a 6 pack of a new microbrew every other week or so. I've been disappointed too many times, and it's discouraging. I know there are great micros out there that I have yet to try, but it seems like every brewer with enough capital to start up a commercial outfit brews the hoppiest beer they can, slap some crazy eye catching logo on it, and expect that to fly off the shelves (which it might in some cases). Still, some of the best beers I've ever had were brewed by homebrewers (would it be bad if I admitted some were mine?) and I've almost completely lost my confidence in the micros on the shelves. I realize that this mentality isn't fair to the established micros, but at least in my case, it makes them better off since I only buy from breweries that I know make good beer. To name a few (not conclusive): Bells, Founders, New Holland, Stone, South Shore, New Glarus, and imports: Weihenstephaner, Paulaner, Hacker-Pshorr, Ayinger...

In particular, there are a couple relatively new "styles" that seem to be booming in numbers on the shelves that I've given an honest try and just plain didn't like any of them. They would be CDA (Cascadian Dark Ale - a.k.a. Black IPA), and Belgian IPA (IPA fermented with Belgian yeast strain). Crap like that is taking up shelf space that could have better beer, but that starts getting into the "beer wars" story, and I'm not touching that. Some breweries are resorting to trying new and radical techniques and ingredients, which sometimes turns out well, in an effort to stand out and sell their product. But (IMO) that most often ends up with an unpalatable beer. One example: Apricot IPA. No thanks.

What I've found that helps you find a brewery or particular beer that you like is attending beer festivals. I've been doing that for about 8 years now. I started going to them as one of the reps for a brewery I used to work for and have been going ever since. Typically, there are more beers there than you can legitimately try in the narrow window of time they give you, but you can try an awful lot. I keep notes, so that I can review when sober, then if I see something on the shelf that I liked at the festival, I can buy some with confidence that I won't get let down. Although this issue isn't that big of one for me since I brew my own, it's still an overall issue with the craft beer market. I'm glad to see the expansion, but the cost of that growth comes as suffering quality and decreased consumer confidence, especially at the prices some of these breweries get for a 6 pack.

I can't say I blame breweries for making popular styles if that's what's selling for them. I mean, when it's a business, you kind of have to make what the customers seem to want. So to blame the breweries for flooding the market with overly hopped beers isn't entirely fair; you also have to blame the waves of beer newbs who buy what's cool to be seen drinking, or what's cool to say they like. It's a competitive business, and brings challenges that go beyond being capable of making a decent pint of brew.
 
2012-08-08 05:34:26 PM
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2012-08-08 05:52:31 PM

Carn: Bruxellensis: Carn: Kthulu: Teknowaffle: I came in to complain about the saturation of the microbrew market with overhopped IPAs. Looks like I am not alone.

No, sir, you are not. I love a balanced, well-crafted IPA, but most of them are just hipsters hop bombs. Tons of other delicious styles to enjoy.

Better yet, brew beer at home that satisfies your own preferences.

As do I, and I have one bottled. It's in the mid range of bitterness for normal (non imperial) american IPA, nice malty balance, easy on the flavor and aroma hops. Also have a kolsch and dunkleweisen we were sampling last night at poker. Yay homebrew!

I'll drink to that. I make IPAs several times a year, but I make them more balanced than the "hop-war" driven crap that's on the shelves. I stick to the 55-60 IBU range, but I get all of the IBUs from late addition hop charges - no 60 or 90 minute additions at all. An 11 gallon batch would end up with about a pound of hops in it, but since they're all added late, the bitterness is surprisingly calm. This, on top of dry hopping, gives wonderful aroma, but a nice balanced bitterness. I also use a small percentage of munich and honey malts in the mash to contrast the slight bitterness perception. It's a very good, and very sessionable brew.

However, I primarily make German style lagers, stouts, porters, Trappist style strong ales, and lambics/gueuze/krieks.

I love hope aroma but I've found that some of my friends who aren't as beer nerdy perceive the hope aroma and flavor as just bitterness as opposed to citrusy, floral or whatever. I'm overdue for another belgian brew - maybe a trippel. I also want to make a cider and it's time for an octoberfest!


Nice. I'm a bit late on starting my Oktoberfest. I usually try to get about 4 months of lagering or more for those, but my lager fridge has been busy with a 22 gallons of other beers (Helles and Pils) lately. Never made cider, but I've had some really good homebrewed ones before. Mmmmm...fall brews!
 
2012-08-10 09:10:19 AM

Pocket Ninja: Ah, yes, there's nothing like the quality of small-batch American beer. Hops rolled in hops, blended with some light hops to bring out the hops, then accented with some heavier hops and medium-bodied hops to evoke a true hoppy blend of hops. With some hops added just to create a final hoppiness on the end that can only be attributed to hops.


So very much this. When I noticed people were selling Pale Ale in a can, I knew this trend had exhausted itself.

Its beer. get over yourself.
 
2012-08-10 10:22:35 AM

angryjd: Pocket Ninja: Ah, yes, there's nothing like the quality of small-batch American beer. Hops rolled in hops, blended with some light hops to bring out the hops, then accented with some heavier hops and medium-bodied hops to evoke a true hoppy blend of hops. With some hops added just to create a final hoppiness on the end that can only be attributed to hops.

So very much this. When I noticed people were selling Pale Ale in a can, I knew this trend had exhausted itself.

Its beer. get over yourself.


A good Pale in a can is one of the best things to happen to the camping/beer geek demographics ever.
 
2012-08-10 03:02:34 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the first canned "craft brew" was Dales Pale ale!

cans go everywhere that bottles can't and kegs are impractical.
 
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