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2012-08-08 08:48:30 AM
If you're going to amend the constitution do something useful. Expand the dollar menu, allow right on red at more intersections, I'd bring back a few tv shows too.
 
2012-08-08 08:59:37 AM
See this, to me, is the concerning part:

Another part of the amendment sparking controversy is a section that reads "no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs."
 
2012-08-08 08:59:39 AM
MO resident here. Loads of derp in this state over this, but noone seemed to pay attention to the many legal scholars who said very clearly that the wording of the amendment was so vague, it will not survive an inevitable court challenge.

thanks for wasting more taxpayer dollars in court, teatards.
 
2012-08-08 09:01:20 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: See this, to me, is the concerning part:

Another part of the amendment sparking controversy is a section that reads "no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs."


Yep...the legal folks tried to warn them about that too. Even some of the school districts were saying they were not going to deal with idiot parents trying to opt their kids out of 3rd period science just because.

The court challenges here will be swift, I can tell you that.
 
2012-08-08 09:18:56 AM
If you're of a certain age, you may remember video game arcades. And you may also remember the greatest video game to ever grace a video game arcade: Gauntlet.

I'm not talking about Gauntlet II. Gauntlet II was a travesty only enjoyed by drooling halfwits. But Gauntlet -- the original Gauntlet -- was the greatest video game ever designed. Here, let me describe it for you. It was an adventure game, like Diablo but better. You could play it with up to four people, and each one of them had a character. One character was a wizard, one was a warrior, one was an elf, and there was woman character too, but she was stupid. Anyway, you'd get four friends together and you'd all plug in your quarters and your characters would appear in this dungeon and off you'd go, shooting monsters and collecting gold and food and going down deeper and deeper into this dungeon. Nobody really knows how deep the dungeons went, because you'd always start to die after a few levels of being attacked by ghosts and demons and other things. And as you started to die, the machine would begin to make these loud announcements in a big, booming voice like James Earl Jones: THE WIZARD...IS ABOUT TO DIE. THE WARRIOR...IS ABOUT TO DIE. And every time your character got hit again there would be this moan or grunt or gasp of pain, so that when all four characters were getting pummeled the machine would be bellowing its warnings and the characters would be going AUGH UH OOH OOF UUUM so that it sounded vaguely like a video game orgy was taking place. And then this alarm would sound, basically counting down your seconds until the character disappeared into a puff of smoke.

But you didn't *have* to die right then, of course. You could plug in another quarter and poof! New life. Of course, once you started getting down to the death levels, that new life never lasted very long, but still -- the point was that you could extend your play time. Eventually, though, you'd run out of quarters and then it was game over, man. Game over.

Well, Gauntlet wasn't just an awesome game. It was a prediction of our country's demise. See, we have characters in this country who are on the verge of death themselves, important characters. Christians, for example. Gun owners. Freedom lovers. Job Creators. And they're all about to die. It's like they're running around trying to find a way to keep America great, but everything they do just opens up a new door where they get attacked anew. Sharia Law. High taxes. Over regulation. Death Panels. And they can hear the voice above them -- and it might be God himself saying it, who knows? -- CHRISTIANS...ARE ABOUT TO DIE. JOB CREATORS...ARE ABOUT TO DIE. And all they can do is plug in another quarter and hope for just a little more time. Just one more chance in the hopes that the next level, that one next level, might actually be the end. The one where they win. The one where the finally get to see what the point of this whole thing was.

But the ghosts and demons keep coming. CHRISTIANS...ARE ABOUT TO DIE. And you know what? This isn't a game. This is real life. They're asking for a quarter, folks. Just give them a quarter.
 
2012-08-08 09:21:42 AM
"It's against my religion to do algebra."

Why? They already pull that with Biology.
 
2012-08-08 09:27:31 AM

Pocket Ninja: If you're of a certain age, you may remember video game arcades. And you may also remember the greatest video game to ever grace a video game arcade: Gauntlet.

I'm not talking about Gauntlet II. Gauntlet II was a travesty only enjoyed by drooling halfwits. But Gauntlet -- the original Gauntlet -- was the greatest video game ever designed. Here, let me describe it for you. It was an adventure game, like Diablo but better. You could play it with up to four people, and each one of them had a character. One character was a wizard, one was a warrior, one was an elf, and there was woman character too, but she was stupid. Anyway, you'd get four friends together and you'd all plug in your quarters and your characters would appear in this dungeon and off you'd go, shooting monsters and collecting gold and food and going down deeper and deeper into this dungeon. Nobody really knows how deep the dungeons went, because you'd always start to die after a few levels of being attacked by ghosts and demons and other things. And as you started to die, the machine would begin to make these loud announcements in a big, booming voice like James Earl Jones: THE WIZARD...IS ABOUT TO DIE. THE WARRIOR...IS ABOUT TO DIE. And every time your character got hit again there would be this moan or grunt or gasp of pain, so that when all four characters were getting pummeled the machine would be bellowing its warnings and the characters would be going AUGH UH OOH OOF UUUM so that it sounded vaguely like a video game orgy was taking place. And then this alarm would sound, basically counting down your seconds until the character disappeared into a puff of smoke.

But you didn't *have* to die right then, of course. You could plug in another quarter and poof! New life. Of course, once you started getting down to the death levels, that new life never lasted very long, but still -- the point was that you could extend your play time. Eventually, though, you'd run out of quarters and then it was game over ...


You know, I'd love to, but I spent all of my quarters shooting CDs at bad guys and rescuing members of Aerosmith. :D


/obscure?
 
2012-08-08 09:41:21 AM

Diogenes: "It's against my religion to do algebra."

Why? They already pull that with Biology.


Algebra eh? Sounds pretty Muslimy to me...
 
2012-08-08 09:43:54 AM
ah, yes, small-government conservatives!
 
2012-08-08 09:51:07 AM
Pete?
 
2012-08-08 09:56:19 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: See this, to me, is the concerning part:

Another part of the amendment sparking controversy is a section that reads "no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs."


www.awasu.com
 
2012-08-08 10:02:37 AM
Repeat? http://www.fark.com/comments/7256656/In-Missouri-healthcare-is-still-n ot-a-right-however-praying-is-THANK-YOU-BABY-JESUS
 
2012-08-08 10:04:08 AM
protect Christianity, which they said is under attack.


This is Christianity under attack:

encrypted-tbn3.google.com

This is Christianity NOT under attack:

a57.foxnews.com
 
2012-08-08 10:16:46 AM
And yet I'm still being prohibited from breathing the air. That right is neither the federal Constitution, nor in my state Constitution.

Pisses me off that Christians get special consideration. Why must my right to breathe be restricted?!
 
2012-08-08 10:18:41 AM
Oh those poor, persecuted Christians. Maybe one day, they'll be able to freely exercise their faith.
 
2012-08-08 10:22:40 AM
How does this interact with Sharia law? That's still banned, right?
 
2012-08-08 10:49:23 AM
Repeat
 
2012-08-08 10:49:37 AM
I'm going to go with Abe Simpson on this one and never recognize Missoura' as a state
 
2012-08-08 10:49:56 AM
Well, since we're duplicating threads, I'll duplicate posts.

Primitive screwheads.

This thing is designed to be challenged and overturned, by the way. Read the text:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2012ballot/fulltext_1.pdf

It mentions 'Almighty God' more than a few times. What's that mean? It means it's promoting a single/group of religions above all the others that don't have Almighty Gods.

It's going to be challenged, it's going to cost the state money, and the whole farking time the sons of biatches pulling the strings on this are going to be crowing about how they're being oppressed by the liberal.

Bunch of farking ignorant hicks being led around by the nose by masters they deny exist.

/missourian
//voted yesterday just for this
 
2012-08-08 10:51:00 AM
I came across an article yesterday that shows that in fundie math books published by A Beka they are opposed to set theory of all things. Can't wait for that to come up.

I want to know if a student could opt out of history lessons on the holocaust or the moon landings or anything like that based on this amendment. That would be fun to do just to show these people how stupid they are for proposing something like this.
 
2012-08-08 10:51:34 AM

DamnYankees: How does this interact with Sharia law? That's still banned, right?


Well duh, brown people with diapers on their heads don't get any rights. We wouldn't want a repeat of Wisconsin now would we??
 
2012-08-08 10:51:38 AM
Buh. I wish we'd attack Christianity more.

They need a good swabbing.
 
2012-08-08 10:51:47 AM
Muslims can prey when ever where ever, right?
 
2012-08-08 10:51:53 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: See this, to me, is the concerning part:

Another part of the amendment sparking controversy is a section that reads "no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs."


Oh yes, that won't be abused by teenagers at all.
 
2012-08-08 10:52:29 AM
no you can't be too sure, subby. these days you cannot be too sure.
 
2012-08-08 10:52:29 AM

Coco LaFemme: Oh those poor, persecuted Christians. Maybe one day, they'll be able to freely exercise their faith.


Seems to be the only thing related to Christ that they follow is how he was nailed to a cross. And with that, they nail themselves.
 
2012-08-08 10:52:41 AM

mark.jms: Well, since we're duplicating threads, I'll duplicate posts.

Primitive screwheads.

This thing is designed to be challenged and overturned, by the way. Read the text:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2012ballot/fulltext_1.pdf

It mentions 'Almighty God' more than a few times. What's that mean? It means it's promoting a single/group of religions above all the others that don't have Almighty Gods.

It's going to be challenged, it's going to cost the state money, and the whole farking time the sons of biatches pulling the strings on this are going to be crowing about how they're being oppressed by the liberal.

Bunch of farking ignorant hicks being led around by the nose by masters they deny exist.

/missourian
//voted yesterday just for this


Yes, it's like Roe V. Wade. It is purposely designed as a test case to weaken the 1st Amendment protections against the government establishing a religion and tear down the wall of separation between church and state
 
2012-08-08 10:56:03 AM

mark.jms: Well, since we're duplicating threads, I'll duplicate posts.

Primitive screwheads.

This thing is designed to be challenged and overturned, by the way. Read the text:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2012ballot/fulltext_1.pdf

It mentions 'Almighty God' more than a few times. What's that mean? It means it's promoting a single/group of religions above all the others that don't have Almighty Gods.

It's going to be challenged, it's going to cost the state money, and the whole farking time the sons of biatches pulling the strings on this are going to be crowing about how they're being oppressed by the liberal.

Bunch of farking ignorant hicks being led around by the nose by masters they deny exist.

/missourian
//voted yesterday just for this


Yeah, what about MY rights? My God is kinda, sorta okay, I guess. So in order to be protected by the law my God has to be "Almighty," not just "Mighty," or "Reasonably Strong," or "Pretty Tough for Someone Who Doesn't Work Out All the Time..."
 
2012-08-08 10:56:20 AM

Pocket Ninja: If you're of a certain age, you may remember video game arcades. And you may also remember the greatest video game to ever grace a video game arcade: Gauntlet.

I'm not talking about Gauntlet II. Gauntlet II was a travesty only enjoyed by drooling halfwits. But Gauntlet -- the original Gauntlet -- was the greatest video game ever designed. Here, let me describe it for you. It was an adventure game, like Diablo but better. You could play it with up to four people, and each one of them had a character. One character was a wizard, one was a warrior, one was an elf, and there was woman character too, but she was stupid. Anyway, you'd get four friends together and you'd all plug in your quarters and your characters would appear in this dungeon and off you'd go, shooting monsters and collecting gold and food and going down deeper and deeper into this dungeon. Nobody really knows how deep the dungeons went, because you'd always start to die after a few levels of being attacked by ghosts and demons and other things. And as you started to die, the machine would begin to make these loud announcements in a big, booming voice like James Earl Jones: THE WIZARD...IS ABOUT TO DIE. THE WARRIOR...IS ABOUT TO DIE. And every time your character got hit again there would be this moan or grunt or gasp of pain, so that when all four characters were getting pummeled the machine would be bellowing its warnings and the characters would be going AUGH UH OOH OOF UUUM so that it sounded vaguely like a video game orgy was taking place. And then this alarm would sound, basically counting down your seconds until the character disappeared into a puff of smoke.

But you didn't *have* to die right then, of course. You could plug in another quarter and poof! New life. Of course, once you started getting down to the death levels, that new life never lasted very long, but still -- the point was that you could extend your play time. Eventually, though, you'd run out of quarters and then it was game over ...


Shhh......Don't give out the business model of every evangelical cable or radio show. I'll pray for you.
 
2012-08-08 10:57:03 AM

cheap_thoughts: Muslims can prey when ever where ever, right?


Any non-Christian prayers, like those of Islamist or Catholics, are inherently disturbing of the peace so they aren't protected.

the state shall not coerce any person to participate in any prayer or other religious activity, but shall ensure that any person shall have the right to pray individually or corporately in a private or public setting so long as such prayer does not result in disturbance of the peace or disruption of a public meeting or assembly
 
2012-08-08 10:57:08 AM
I'm beginning to think that the sad thing about Missouri, aside from the Johnson's Shut-Ins flood, is the great beauty in the Ozarkian part of the state. 'Cuz the people. . .sheesh! And to think the place was founded by the same Bostonians that initiated Chicago!
 
2012-08-08 10:57:16 AM
Aren't all you Missourites glad you voted for fine representatives like these?
 
2012-08-08 10:57:18 AM
I don't pray in public. I go to my room and close the door.
But then, I never claimed to be a very good Christian...
 
2012-08-08 10:57:53 AM
Maybes it's time we take off the gloves and introduce the fundies to some third amendment solutions.
 
2012-08-08 10:58:14 AM
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2012-08-08 10:58:40 AM
How long do we have to put up with a state like MO who has a track record of constant moronic ideas? MO is the poster child for backwards ideas. Not even Florida is this bad.
 
2012-08-08 10:59:03 AM

DamnYankees: How does this interact with Sharia law? That's still banned, right?


Of course. The first time a mosque uses the law to blast the call to prayer through a loudspeaker these same people will be screaming to shut down a muslim's right to pray.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:02 AM
beantowndog SmartestFunniest 2012-08-08 08:48:30 AM


If you're going to amend the constitution do something useful. Expand the dollar menu, allow right on red at more intersections, I'd bring back a few tv shows too.




How 'bout legalizing drugs, prostitution, and gambling. And MOST important...



The abolition of silent letters from our written language.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:38 AM
1 That all men and women have a natural and indefeasible right to worship
2 Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences; that no human authority can
3 control or interfere with the rights of conscience; that no person shall, on account of his or her
4 religious persuasion or belief, be rendered ineligible to any public office or trust or profit in this
5 state, be disqualified from testifying or serving as a juror, or be molested in his or her person
6 or estate; that to secure a citizen's right to acknowledge Almighty God according to the
7 dictates of his or her own conscience, neither the state nor any of its political subdivisions
8 shall establish any official religion, nor shall a citizen's right to pray or express his or her
9 religious beliefs be infringed; that the state shall not coerce any person to participate in any
10 prayer or other religious activity, but shall ensure that any person shall have the right to
11 pray individually or corporately in a private or public setting so long as such prayer does
12 not result in disturbance of the peace or disruption of a public meeting or assembly; that
13 citizens as well as elected officials and employees of the state of Missouri and its political
14 subdivisions shall have the right to pray on government premises and public property so
15 placed upon any other free speech
16 under similar circumstances; that the General Assembly and the governing bodies of
17 political subdivisions may extend to ministers, clergypersons, and other individuals the
18 privilege to offer invocations or other prayers at meetings or sessions of the General
19 Assembly or governing bodies; that students may express their beliefs about religion in
20 written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of
21 their work; that no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic
22 assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs; that the
23 state shall ensure public school students their right to free exercise of religious expression
24 without interference, as long as such prayer or other expression is private and voluntary,
25 whether individually or corporately, and in a manner that is not disruptive and as long as
26 such prayers or expressions abide within the same parameters placed upon any other free
27 speech under similar circumstances; and, to emphasize the right to free exercise of religious
28 expression, that all free public schools receiving state appropriations shall display, in a
29 conspicuous and legible manner, the text of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the
30 United States; but this section shall not be construed to expand the rights of prisoners in state
31 or local custody beyond those afforded by the laws of the United States, excuse acts of
32 licentiousness, nor to justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the
33 state, or with the rights of others.


Damn... that's quite the wordy amendment there.
 
2012-08-08 11:01:01 AM

KeithLM: I came across an article yesterday that shows that in fundie math books published by A Beka they are opposed to set theory of all things. Can't wait for that to come up.


What the hell can these lunatics object to in math?
 
2012-08-08 11:02:28 AM
Stupid subby, just look at all the jobs this amendment will create.
 
2012-08-08 11:02:28 AM

ongbok: KeithLM: I came across an article yesterday that shows that in fundie math books published by A Beka they are opposed to set theory of all things. Can't wait for that to come up.

What the hell can these lunatics object to in math?


3.141592654
 
2012-08-08 11:02:48 AM
www.jeffrandleman.com
Sadly oblig.
 
2012-08-08 11:03:17 AM
Oh, what a Glorious day! No longer will Missouri Christians have to practice their Faith in secret. No longer will they have the fear the Tyranny of the ever-present Missouri Atheist, or the insidious Wrath of the multitudinous Missouri Muslims. No more will they be Terrorized by the hordes of Homosexuals, luring innocent children into a Life of Sodomy with their Gay Agenda. The dark days of Oppression are finally at an end! Praise Jesus!

\now if only someone would do something about those pesky Jews...
 
2012-08-08 11:03:32 AM
I'm a Missouri native and I'm embrassed about Tuesday. From a senate primary that was conservite pi$&ing contest to this joke it's a sad day in MO
 
2012-08-08 11:05:22 AM
Hated Biology in H.S. (Not so much now.) Would've found Jesus while smoking a Camel in the pisser.
 
2012-08-08 11:05:30 AM
I found this great quote, it really says it all about the reasons behind this bill and this vote and it also verifies something that has been denied for a long, long time.

The Rev. Terry Hodges of First Baptist Church in Odessa, Missouri, and reverend of Mike McGhee, the sponsor of the bill during the legislative session: "For first 150 years in this country Christianity enjoyed home-field advantage. That's changed and now there's a hostility toward Christians."

At least the folks behind it openly admit it is all about giving Christianity the "advantage" in comparison to any other religion or atheism/agnosticism. Sure all pigs are equal, it's just that some are more equal than others. These people represent the antithesis of freedom and don't even know it.
 
2012-08-08 11:05:41 AM

CheekyMonkey: Oh, what a Glorious day! No longer will Missouri Christians have to practice their Faith in secret. No longer will they have the fear the Tyranny of the ever-present Missouri Atheist, or the insidious Wrath of the multitudinous Missouri Muslims. No more will they be Terrorized by the hordes of Homosexuals, luring innocent children into a Life of Sodomy with their Gay Agenda. The dark days of Oppression are finally at an end! Praise Jesus!

\now if only someone would do something about those pesky Jews...



I was going to say something similar but you were far more eloquent than I would have been. Kudos.
 
2012-08-08 11:05:52 AM

Wellon Dowd: ongbok: KeithLM: I came across an article yesterday that shows that in fundie math books published by A Beka they are opposed to set theory of all things. Can't wait for that to come up.

What the hell can these lunatics object to in math?

3.141592654


What these people don't like Pi? What problem do they have with PI?
 
2012-08-08 11:05:54 AM

doubled99: beantowndog SmartestFunniest 2012-08-08 08:48:30 AM


If you're going to amend the constitution do something useful. Expand the dollar menu, allow right on red at more intersections, I'd bring back a few tv shows too.



How 'bout legalizing drugs, prostitution, and gambling. And MOST important...



The abolition of silent letters from our written language.


Most aren't silent, precisely. Most alter the pronunciation of preceding letters, vowels especially. They're more a kind of diacritic of sorts.
 
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