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2012-08-08 09:27:32 AM

gingerjet: FTFA "I've been against Macintosh company lately. They're trying to get everyone to use iPads and when people use iPads they end up just using technology to consume things instead of making things. With a computer you can make things. You can code, you can make things and create things that have never before existed and do things that have never been done before."

Old dude who sounds bitter and living off his inventions from 60 years ago doesn't get modern computers. News at 11. He clearly doesn't understand that with the tools available today - there are legions of new inventors being created and they are using iPads to achieve that.

He needs to get over it.

I'm not going to argue with the guy who invented the computer

Yes - you can. Especially when he clearly doesn't get the modern age and playing you for a chump.

/I have the same complaints about Woz
//and WWII vets
///bring on the haters


I would give you full respect if you manage to do something that rivals what this old man did (and the others that you insult), which gives him the right to his quite excellent opinion.

Until then, well, I give you quite the opposite, while knowing full well that you are probably trolling as this level of stupid would (should?) be quite rare outside of Fark, but I may be wrong.
 
2012-08-08 09:29:36 AM

Kraftwerk Orange: I was with him until he started giving credit to the old guy in the sky.


He only credited a quote to God. That quote is in the bible.
Genesis 11:6
The Lord said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them."
 
2012-08-08 09:44:23 AM

untaken_name: dittybopper: kmmontandon: Fano:

Sounds like he understands what computers are for, ie not sucking your own cock.


This is why books are useless - you only consume, instead of write your own.

That's true, but on the other hand, you can pick up a book that was printed 100 years ago and still read it. Will you be able to do that with an iPad?

It'll be exactly as useful in 100 years as it is today.


Heh.
 
2012-08-08 09:48:52 AM

GilRuiz1: Too bad it's too late for it to be the world's first programmer, Ada Lovelace


Two movies coming out about Linda Lovelace, and none about Ada. Sucks (pardon the pun).

/last name is Lovelace
//got a kick
 
2012-08-08 10:04:34 AM

mantidor: Maybe it wasn't Russell Kirsch himself but an impersonator, who knows?


Yes, that sounds likely. Sit around coffee shops having random conversations while pretending to be somebody that almost nobody has heard of, and whose contribution to the evolution of the computer is meaningless even to many geeks. Good plan.

/Or do I need to recalibrate my Snark Detector.
 
2012-08-08 10:12:40 AM
"I've been against Macintosh company lately. They're trying to get everyone to use iPads and when people use iPads they end up just using technology to consume things instead of making things."

Sounds like someone who can't conceive of any ways to make things with iPads. He should take this guy's advice:
"Nothing is withheld from us what we have conceived to do."

www.brushesapp.com
 
2012-08-08 10:42:04 AM
1) Holy crap, that's like meeting a Titan.
2) He's right. We're drifting into an era where people will be less inventive, because invention takes imagination and ambition. Coding is hard.
3) When he's gone, the world will be a poorer place.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:10 AM

SevenizGud:

Meanwhile, while you were reading this, 2 kids in Guatemala died because they didn't have clean water to drink that would have cost about 80 cents PER YEAR to provide to them.


Meanwhile, in the last 24 hours, the global human population increased by about 81,000 through the "miracle" of reproduction... on average, the easiest thing we can accomplish. Did you have a point?

I get what the old man was trying to say about tablets, etc. Having lived through the transition from microcomputers being used almost exclusively for "creation" of some sort or another to what might have been unimaginable amounts of high tech back then, now crammed into the palm of the average dimwit's hand, I get the occasional twinge of lost proprietorship. But it shouldn't really bother me - even if iThings are closed devices of consumption, they and certainly their cousins have made an unprecedented amount of technology available and affordable to nearly everyone. For those who are inclined to be creative, makers, the choice of power tools and media are now greater and cheaper than ever. For those inclined to consume, well, they'll just feed the revenue stream that ultimately allows makers to make. The "cost of entry" for self-education and for many creative pursuits, whether in the Arts or Sciences, has been reduced effectively to zero when compared to generations past. True too the cost of consumption and sloth, but I think creative people have it easy now.

So stop posting on Fark and go *make* something ;)
 
2012-08-08 11:58:46 AM

RatOmeter: So stop posting on Fark and go *make* something ;)


I did. Took two flushes to get rid of it.
 
2012-08-08 12:17:23 PM

ChrisDe: Had I created the first digital image, it would have been porn. Just so future generations could have the lulz.

/topless Cernettes?


You're not too far off from history, at least in terms of image compression and modification. (SFW)
 
2012-08-08 12:41:27 PM

SevenizGud: Quantum Apostrophe: Wiki:"Although Kirsch did not work for NASA, his invention led to increased technology crucial to the 1960s space explorations,"

See? The technology came FIRST.

Awesome! Proof that with basic science, you can then go out and apply it by wasting billions of dollars on pointless missions that will have no bearing on anybody whatsoever.

Meanwhile, while you were reading this, 2 kids in Guatemala died because they didn't have clean water to drink that would have cost about 80 cents PER YEAR to provide to them.

Hey, just imagine all the great practical outcomes that will eventually come to fruition if we terraform Gliese Omega-99z!


Or you could think about the advances in water purification technologies that have come out of learning how to process urine into potable water for use on the ISS.
 
2012-08-08 01:06:02 PM

Parallax: GilRuiz1: Too bad it's too late for it to be the world's first programmer, Ada Lovelace

Two movies coming out about Linda Lovelace, and none about Ada. Sucks (pardon the pun).

/last name is Lovelace
//got a kick


www.thelongridersguild.com

"Excuse me, sir, but that happens to be my daughter you are talking about."
 
2012-08-08 01:25:37 PM

Kraftwerk Orange: I was with him until he started giving credit to the old guy in the sky.


So i guess ignorance is bliss.
 
2012-08-08 02:33:46 PM
"Nothing is withheld from us which we have conceived to do."

.....So I write for a blog in a coffee shop.
 
2012-08-08 06:06:13 PM
Not only do most people not create, most people don't even think much about the things that have been created. I don't really see too much problem with that. Me's not bothered that more people used their VCR's for entertainment and porn than educational videos.

But I am curious as to, for example, what percentage of people have any sort of understanding of what happens when you push the bigger pedal on your car to make it stop. I had a 50-year-old friend who makes a LOT of money and lives in a very large and nice home ask me to come over and light his hot (added for annoying affect) water heater that shut off after a wind storm. He was rightfully embarrassed to not know how to do this. I just wonder how many people out there simply have no idea as to the basics of how things all around us work. Myself for instance - i have no idea exactly how many people have no idea....
 
2012-08-08 09:28:27 PM
"Old Man Yells at iCloud"
 
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