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2012-08-07 06:11:22 PM  
even a farking helicopter. for farks sake.
 
2012-08-07 07:03:06 PM  
They forgot the armored vehicles.
 
2012-08-07 07:26:54 PM  
They're not going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe?
 
2012-08-07 07:33:10 PM  
Those were the most clear and concise instructions I've ever seen an officer give someone in a situation like that.
 
2012-08-07 07:46:49 PM  
she loses - he totally didn't say simon says
 
2012-08-07 08:37:15 PM  
That was a LA County Sheriff's vehicle in the front there. I bet half the reason there are so many vehicles there is at least 3 agencies showed up (LAPD, the Sheriff, and BHPD). Not to mention the damn renta-cops that are all over the area.

/that used to be my hood
 
2012-08-07 09:23:36 PM  
DRIVER TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
BACKUP TO MY VOICE
BACKUP
NOW IT'S JUST A JUMP TO THE LEFT
AND THEN A STEP TO THE RIGHT
WITH YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HIPS
YOU BRING YOUR KNEES IN TIGHT
 
2012-08-07 09:30:47 PM  

pudding7: Those were the most clear and concise instructions I've ever seen an officer give someone in a situation like that.


Even so, they asked each person to do things that are basically crazy and disorienting and so the people are likely not to follow those instructions.

"Turn left, turn left, okay now keep on turning till you are facing away."

Huh? That's where I was? Did you really mean that?

"Step out of the car on the driver's side. Step out of the car on the driver's side"

Oh god Oh god Oh god. /steps out of the car on the passenger side
 
2012-08-07 09:59:04 PM  
The whole time i watched this i was humming and singing..The Beverly hills cop music..
 
2012-08-07 10:01:44 PM  
looks like SOP.

who mad?
 
2012-08-07 10:05:53 PM  

pudding7: Those were the most clear and concise instructions I've ever seen an officer give someone in a situation like that.


That is a textbook example of a felony traffic stop. That is how you get a suspect out of a stolen vehicle, someone matching the description leaving an armed robbery, known wanted violent felon, etc.

The key to getting the suspect into custody safely is clear, loud, simple instructions. They did a pretty good job here.
 
2012-08-07 10:07:31 PM  
They shouldn't have weapons drawn or pointed, they must have been sick that day in class.

Never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it
Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.

Having their hand on the pistol while it's holstered would have been an ample show of force.

I had to recite those lines and a few others each time I armed up for duty. It was printed on a card I had to carry with me at all times.
 
2012-08-07 10:09:53 PM  

RoyBatty: DRIVER TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
BACKUP TO MY VOICE
BACKUP
NOW IT'S JUST A JUMP TO THE LEFT
AND THEN A STEP TO THE RIGHT
WITH YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HIPS
YOU BRING YOUR KNEES IN TIGHT


This would happen if an Airplane! movie included a police stop.
 
2012-08-07 10:13:40 PM  

WildView: They shouldn't have weapons drawn or pointed, they must have been sick that day in class.

Never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it
Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.

Having their hand on the pistol while it's holstered would have been an ample show of force.

I had to recite those lines and a few others each time I armed up for duty. It was printed on a card I had to carry with me at all times.


You obviously slept through felony traffic stop class because that is almost exactly how I was taught to do it.
 
2012-08-07 10:15:32 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: pudding7: Those were the most clear and concise instructions I've ever seen an officer give someone in a situation like that.

That is a textbook example of a felony traffic stop. That is how you get a suspect out of a stolen vehicle, someone matching the description leaving an armed robbery, known wanted violent felon, etc.

The key to getting the suspect into custody safely is clear, loud, simple instructions. They did a pretty good job here.


So there are all these squad cars there, and they are parked next to some houses/apartments/.... Whose job in that group is to make sure the cops are safe from the local neighbors?

I'd be a little worried seeing all these faces poking out of the windows and bushes.
 
2012-08-07 10:20:39 PM  

some_beer_drinker: even a farking helicopter. for farks sake.


Seriously. If my local police department had the ability to waste a gazilion cruisers and a helicopter on a stolen car report, I'd be demanding a budget cut next election. That was totally over the top and crazy.
 
2012-08-07 10:21:33 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: WildView: They shouldn't have weapons drawn or pointed, they must have been sick that day in class.

Never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it
Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.

Having their hand on the pistol while it's holstered would have been an ample show of force.

I had to recite those lines and a few others each time I armed up for duty. It was printed on a card I had to carry with me at all times.

You obviously slept through felony traffic stop class because that is almost exactly how I was taught to do it.


Had the LEO's been informed that the suspect was armed and dangerous there would be reasonable expectation for deadly force and I would agree with you. I can't say what information was given to them as that was not provided in the video.

If a weapon is drawn you intend to use deadly force.

"Deadly force is force that person knows or should know will cause death or serious bodily harm. Deadly force is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed."

That was printed on the other side of the card I carried each shift.
 
2012-08-07 10:23:17 PM  

RoyBatty: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: pudding7: Those were the most clear and concise instructions I've ever seen an officer give someone in a situation like that.

That is a textbook example of a felony traffic stop. That is how you get a suspect out of a stolen vehicle, someone matching the description leaving an armed robbery, known wanted violent felon, etc.

The key to getting the suspect into custody safely is clear, loud, simple instructions. They did a pretty good job here.

So there are all these squad cars there, and they are parked next to some houses/apartments/.... Whose job in that group is to make sure the cops are safe from the local neighbors?

I'd be a little worried seeing all these faces poking out of the windows and bushes.


This type of stop typically has atleast three officers. Cover, contact, and a third or pass-off.

The contact officer is giving the driver the instructions and moves them back to the cover officer to his/her right. That's the guy cuffing her. This guy does a quick pat down, gathers whatever intel he can regarding people in the vehicle and then passes them off to the third guy and retakes his cover position. Third guy searches again and then secures the suspect.

Repeat this process for all the occupants. Then cover/contact officers clear the vehicle.

Now let's say you are in a hostile area. Contact officer will draw down on the vehicle, cover officer scans from vehicle to surrounding area and the third guy covers the other two from behind. You do that until the required assistance arrives. This is called "being on cop time". Situation is secure but further action requires additional assets? wait. wait as long as it takes.
 
2012-08-07 10:28:34 PM  

RoyBatty: DRIVER TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
BACKUP TO MY VOICE
BACKUP
NOW IT'S JUST A JUMP TO THE LEFT
AND THEN A STEP TO THE RIGHT
WITH YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HIPS
YOU BRING YOUR KNEES IN TIGHT


To the left, to the left, to the right, to the right
To the front, to the front, to the back, to the back
Now slide, slide, slide, slide
Now slide, slide, slide, slide, come on come on

To the left, to the left, to the right, to the right
To the front, to the front, to the back, to the back
Now dip baby dip, come on let's dip baby dip
Dip baby dip, just dip baby dip baby dip just dip

Come on flow, oh oh let's go, let me see that tootsie roll
 
2012-08-07 10:32:44 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: This type of stop typically has atleast three officers. Cover, contact, and a third or pass-off.The contact officer is giving the driver the instructions and moves them back to the cover officer to his/her right. That's the guy cuffing her. This guy does a quick pat down, gathers whatever intel he can regarding people in the vehicle and then passes them off to the third guy and retakes his cover position. Third guy searches again and then secures the suspect.Repeat this process for all the occupants. Then cover/contact officers clear the vehicle.Now let's say you are in a hostile area. Contact officer will draw down on the vehicle, cover officer scans from vehicle to surrounding area and the third guy covers the other two from behind. You do that until the required assistance arrives. This is called "being on cop time". Situation is secure but further action requires additional assets? wait. wait as long as it takes


Interesting. Thank you.
 
2012-08-07 10:33:41 PM  

WildView: Had the LEO's been informed that the suspect was armed and dangerous there would be reasonable expectation for deadly force and I would agree with you. I can't say what information was given to them as that was not provided in the video


Then why are you talking?

All I know is that I know exactly what I am looking at. You know how I know? The officers only break cover to cuff the driver. If this was just a case of gun happy cops they would have charged the car.

Easily 10 cops taking cover behind their vehicles facing a vehicle with two occupants? There is a reasonable expectation that the people in the vehicle are armed and will use them.
 
2012-08-07 10:37:49 PM  
Keep your beach ass out of my goldbricking community
 
2012-08-07 10:40:36 PM  
I'm not talking, I'm typing. If you'll look carefully at this thread you'll see that you are typing as well. Unless you're one of the officers in the video you don't know all the facts either but you've put in your two cents.

I was taught not to jeapordize the lives of others by pointing a loaded weapon at citizens unless my life was in danger. Apparently our training was vastly different. I'm off to bed.
 
2012-08-07 10:50:12 PM  

WildView: I'm not talking, I'm typing. If you'll look carefully at this thread you'll see that you are typing as well.


Are you twelve?
 
2012-08-07 10:57:14 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: WildView: I'm not talking, I'm typing. If you'll look carefully at this thread you'll see that you are typing as well.

Are you twelve?


Please don't...just don't. He was either horribly wrong or making shiat up. Either way just let it rest. There is no value in engaging him again.
 
2012-08-07 10:58:46 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar:
There is no value in engaging him again.


Agreed.
 
2012-08-07 11:24:38 PM  
OK.
Put your left foot in
Put your left foot out

You do the hokey pokey and you shake it all about.

Now interlace your fingers.
 
2012-08-07 11:25:34 PM  
What a bunch of ridiculous assholes.
 
2012-08-07 11:28:26 PM  

WildView: They shouldn't have weapons drawn or pointed, they must have been sick that day in class.

Never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it
Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.


I've seen other videos from LA when they stop people in a reported stolen car. That seems to be their SOP.
 
2012-08-07 11:41:37 PM  
Asshole cop trifecta in play!
 
2012-08-07 11:44:23 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: WildView: Had the LEO's been informed that the suspect was armed and dangerous there would be reasonable expectation for deadly force and I would agree with you. I can't say what information was given to them as that was not provided in the video

Then why are you talking?

All I know is that I know exactly what I am looking at. You know how I know? The officers only break cover to cuff the driver. If this was just a case of gun happy cops they would have charged the car.

Easily 10 cops taking cover behind their vehicles facing a vehicle with two occupants? There is a reasonable expectation that the people in the vehicle are armed and will use them.


Cheaters!

robertsnow.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-07 11:50:12 PM  

WildView: I'm not talking, I'm typing. If you'll look carefully at this thread you'll see that you are typing as well. Unless you're one of the officers in the video you don't know all the facts either but you've put in your two cents.

I was taught not to jeapordize the lives of others by pointing a loaded weapon at citizens unless my life was in danger. Apparently our training was vastly different. I'm off to bed.


Right, "trained" eyewitness testimony is infallibly reliable?
 
2012-08-07 11:54:57 PM  

Mad Tea Party: Asshole cop trifecta in play!


dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.
 
2012-08-08 12:01:08 AM  

some_beer_drinker: dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.


See - I don't think I could be a cop, because they're asked to be like Jesus. No matter how much you hate them, they're not supposed to hate you back.
 
2012-08-08 12:04:08 AM  

Triumph: some_beer_drinker: dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.

See - I don't think I could be a cop, because they're asked to be like Jesus. No matter how much you hate them, they're not supposed to hate you back.


Jesus did not come to forget the past but to fulfill the future.

Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?
 
2012-08-08 12:05:09 AM  

RoyBatty: DRIVER TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
TAKE A STEP TO YOUR LEFT
BACKUP TO MY VOICE
BACKUP
NOW IT'S JUST A JUMP TO THE LEFT
AND THEN A STEP TO THE RIGHT
WITH YOUR HANDS ON YOUR HIPS
YOU BRING YOUR KNEES IN TIGHT


I thought of that too.

I probably would have started dancing if I was the driver

I probably would have been shot in the back.
 
2012-08-08 12:11:07 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?


Why shouldn't they be able to? Give me one valid reason I can't use a lie to break through a suspects lie? (and for the record, I answer to the constitution, not the commandments)

Man I have never been there, I couldn't have killed that guy
Then why did I find your fingerprints there? (lie)
Ok, maybe I was there earlier that day but I didn't kill that guy
 
2012-08-08 12:17:20 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: StoPPeRmobile: Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?

Why shouldn't they be able to? Give me one valid reason I can't use a lie to break through a suspects lie? (and for the record, I answer to the constitution, not the commandments)

Man I have never been there, I couldn't have killed that guy
Then why did I find your fingerprints there? (lie)
Ok, maybe I was there earlier that day but I didn't kill that guy


We are a Christian nation. Founded in Christian principles.
 
2012-08-08 12:22:13 AM  
But was the ddojsioc there?
 
2012-08-08 12:23:25 AM  
Wait, I'm confused.

Was the car actually stolen? Or was it a misunderstanding on boy toy's part, where his mistress/cougar/whatever reported the car stolen when her kid borrowed it for a drive?

Either way, wtf.
 
2012-08-08 12:23:58 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: StoPPeRmobile: Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?

Why shouldn't they be able to? Give me one valid reason I can't use a lie to break through a suspects lie? (and for the record, I answer to the constitution, not the commandments)

Man I have never been there, I couldn't have killed that guy
Then why did I find your fingerprints there? (lie)
Ok, maybe I was there earlier that day but I didn't kill that guy

We are a Christian nation. Founded in Christian principles.


John 7:8-10 "You go to the Feast. I am not yet going up to this Feast, because for me the right time has not yet come." Having said this, he stayed in Galilee. However, after his brothers had left for the Feast, he went also, not publicly, but in secret

Jesus lied to his disciples to find out what they were up to.

/there is no commandment against lying
 
2012-08-08 12:25:50 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: and for the record, I answer to the constitution,


Music to my ears. Just curious - as a cop, do you agree with the assessment that in the last few decades there has been an effort to "militarize" the police in some place? Sometimes I feel like I see that, but other times I don't.
 
2012-08-08 12:41:58 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: StoPPeRmobile: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: StoPPeRmobile: Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?

Why shouldn't they be able to? Give me one valid reason I can't use a lie to break through a suspects lie? (and for the record, I answer to the constitution, not the commandments)

Man I have never been there, I couldn't have killed that guy
Then why did I find your fingerprints there? (lie)
Ok, maybe I was there earlier that day but I didn't kill that guy

We are a Christian nation. Founded in Christian principles.

John 7:8-10 "You go to the Feast. I am not yet going up to this Feast, because for me the right time has not yet come." Having said this, he stayed in Galilee. However, after his brothers had left for the Feast, he went also, not publicly, but in secret

Jesus lied to his disciples to find out what they were up to.

/there is no commandment against lying


Damnit!

Oh yeah, it's bearing FALSE witness.
 
2012-08-08 12:43:42 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Triumph: some_beer_drinker: dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.

See - I don't think I could be a cop, because they're asked to be like Jesus. No matter how much you hate them, they're not supposed to hate you back.

Jesus did not come to forget the past but to fulfill the future.

Why are cops allowed to lie to suspects?

/Isn't that a commandment?


this is a very large part of why i hate them. the law is for little people, not cops. they will say and do whatever they want, cause who will stop them. die in a fire pigs.
 
2012-08-08 12:47:03 AM  

Triumph: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: and for the record, I answer to the constitution,

Music to my ears. Just curious - as a cop, do you agree with the assessment that in the last few decades there has been an effort to "militarize" the police in some place? Sometimes I feel like I see that, but other times I don't.


I would need to know an outsiders definition of militarize. By structure all police departments are paramilitary organizations to start so many might think they are military already. Here is my take and also the take of a lot of people and departments.

In a military organization you keep your "soft" troops in the back and the harder ones on the front lines. An effective police force should be the opposite. The front line patrol officer should be trained interact with the population effectively. Now that can vary from mayberry to the wire in a single jurisdiction but the officer needs to be aware of how to handle each situation. Communication is the key to effective community policing. They to us and us to them we need to effectively communicate what is going on.

In the course of an investigation walk up to a guy in the area of the crime and say:

"Hey, come over here I want to ask you what you know about so and so..."
versus what I do
"Afternoon sir, I am (my name) with (my department), can I ask you about what has been going on around here lately?" That allows this guy to vent about whatever he wants for a few minutes..
"I appreciate that sir, can I ask about the robbery of the drug store, have you heard anything about that?"

You are going to get two different sets of information

Here's the kicker, that five minute rant he had about sanitation or zoning or lack of patrols? I send an email off to that department requesting that they contact him to discuss it. I helped him, he helped me.
That is community policing.

That being said, I don't operate in the "inner city" environment where they exchange gunfire every other day. My opinion of how things should be wouldn't change but I doubt they would be effective.
 
2012-08-08 12:51:58 AM  
If you don't play Simon Says and just lay down in a normal and leisurely manner they will charge you with resisting arrest, because authority that's why.
 
2012-08-08 12:57:50 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: I would need to know an outsiders definition of militarize.


I was thinking more of how things like the G8 Summit or the RNC and DNC conventions are dealt with these days. They set up small "free speech" zones, big "holding areas" for mass arrests and the police gear is getting very stormtrooperish. You mentioned the Constitution - can we really limit free speech to zones?
 
2012-08-08 01:05:44 AM  

Triumph: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: I would need to know an outsiders definition of militarize.

I was thinking more of how things like the G8 Summit or the RNC and DNC conventions are dealt with these days. They set up small "free speech" zones, big "holding areas" for mass arrests and the police gear is getting very stormtrooperish. You mentioned the Constitution - can we really limit free speech to zones?


You can do anything you want as long as it's popular.
 
2012-08-08 01:08:18 AM  

Triumph: some_beer_drinker: dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.

See - I don't think I could be a cop, because they're asked to be like Jesus. No matter how much you hate them, they're not supposed to hate you back.


Agreed

I have nothing but respect for cops. Admittedly, as a white male living in a predominantly white country my experiences have been relatively positive. If I was native, I might not be so positive. For the most part though, when it comes to the RCMP, you will get what give. If you're polite and do what is asked of you, 99 percent of the time they will be courteous and helpful back.

At the same time, the old boys club (lying to cover their mistakes or their partners mistakes) makes me want to puke.
 
2012-08-08 01:14:48 AM  

UncleStumpy: Triumph: some_beer_drinker: dont we get that everyday. show me a cop, and i'll show you an asshole.

hate cops.

See - I don't think I could be a cop, because they're asked to be like Jesus. No matter how much you hate them, they're not supposed to hate you back.

Agreed

I have nothing but respect for cops. Admittedly, as a white male living in a predominantly white country my experiences have been relatively positive. If I was native, I might not be so positive. For the most part though, when it comes to the RCMP, you will get what give. If you're polite and do what is asked of you, 99 percent of the time they will be courteous and helpful back.

At the same time, the old boys club (lying to cover their mistakes or their partners mistakes) makes me want to puke.


the RCMP threw my friend down some stairs and broke his legs because he refused to give them a name. thugs.
 
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