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2012-08-08 03:17:39 PM

Firethorn: kroonermanblack: As for the heat from the blade, it only seems to hyper heat things that offer resistance, like metal and stone. Flesh would probably sear and not retain much heat. But depending on the ground type, attempting to heat rocks or the ground could have resulted in melting the ground out from under them entirely if they were on an ice shelf or something (given it was an ice locked planet that's fairly likely).

It was too cold out for even heated stone to provide much benefit outside of shelter. It'd also be quite a trick to keep it from being 'hot enough' but not 'too hot'. It's not an evenly heating phaser, for example.

I think I've asked before, but are any of the books any good? I liked the goofy universe as a kid but haven't seen the movies in a decade or more. Just seems like there was a lot they could do with space anime ninja magicians.

Some are decent, many are horrible. It's been too long for me to state which ones are which, in my opinion.

And ya, Jedi are sociopaths when you look at it. It's freaky but I blame Lucas for wanting to create a stringent aesthetic society and simply doing it the easiest way possible. It's not like he planned to make it a 50 year project spanning millions of spinoffs.

This.

Skleenar: WHAT DO TAUNTANS EAT?

What I was thinking. When I was young and first saw the movie(still not first run), my thought was that they must of been imported from some semi-ice planet and fed on imported/hothouse grown food. Otherwise they'd have to be eating growths from hot springs or something.


I also assumed Tauntauns were not native to Hoth. Another question is what sort of ecosystem exists on Hoth that supports a large predator like the Wampa, and if deleted scenes can be believed, lots of them.
 
2012-08-08 04:27:53 PM
Maybe, just maybe in a galaxy far far away science is different

/ignoringhaterswithmyinnerfanboy
 
2012-08-08 04:32:27 PM
People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.
 
2012-08-08 05:34:40 PM

StrangeQ: People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.


You watch your whore mouth!
 
2012-08-08 05:43:16 PM

WhiskeySticks: StrangeQ: People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.

You watch your whore mouth!


Pay no attention. He doesn't even know who directed the film.
 
2012-08-08 06:29:24 PM

StrangeQ: People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.


...every science fiction writer uses science as the 'magic go fuel' in their novels. EVERY ONE OF THEM. Because the stuff they write about? If at all possible, ever, certainly is far enough removed from current technology as to be 'magic'. They're no more interested in science than Dan F'ing Brown is interested in History. It's a fun make believe tool and nothing more.

radiovox: Well, now that we have that all figured out, can you scientists get back to work on finding a cure for a disease? ANY disease?


I'm a glorified electrician spanky.

Want me in a lab ruining budgets, dragging down grant funding from real deserving people, destroying equipment, and botching samples? Or can we admit that, hey, NOT EVERYONE ON THE farkING PLANET IS WORKING IN MEDICINE? Someone has to keep the power on at those hospitals and labs. That's what I do. So yes, technically, I AM working on curing a disease. What the fark are you doing besides being a biatch on fark?
 
2012-08-08 07:03:28 PM

kroonermanblack: StrangeQ: People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.

...every science fiction writer uses science as the 'magic go fuel' in their novels. EVERY ONE OF THEM. Because the stuff they write about? If at all possible, ever, certainly is far enough removed from current technology as to be 'magic'. They're no more interested in science than Dan F'ing Brown is interested in History. It's a fun make believe tool and nothing more.

radiovox: Well, now that we have that all figured out, can you scientists get back to work on finding a cure for a disease? ANY disease?

I'm a glorified electrician spanky.

Want me in a lab ruining budgets, dragging down grant funding from real deserving people, destroying equipment, and botching samples? Or can we admit that, hey, NOT EVERYONE ON THE farkING PLANET IS WORKING IN MEDICINE? Someone has to keep the power on at those hospitals and labs. That's what I do. So yes, technically, I AM working on curing a disease. What the fark are you doing besides being a biatch on fark?


Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

/I'm gonna pee in yer cereal tomorrow
 
2012-08-08 07:50:29 PM

Fano: Firethorn: kroonermanblack: As for the heat from the blade, it only seems to hyper heat things that offer resistance, like metal and stone. Flesh would probably sear and not retain much heat. But depending on the ground type, attempting to heat rocks or the ground could have resulted in melting the ground out from under them entirely if they were on an ice shelf or something (given it was an ice locked planet that's fairly likely).

It was too cold out for even heated stone to provide much benefit outside of shelter. It'd also be quite a trick to keep it from being 'hot enough' but not 'too hot'. It's not an evenly heating phaser, for example.

I think I've asked before, but are any of the books any good? I liked the goofy universe as a kid but haven't seen the movies in a decade or more. Just seems like there was a lot they could do with space anime ninja magicians.

Some are decent, many are horrible. It's been too long for me to state which ones are which, in my opinion.

And ya, Jedi are sociopaths when you look at it. It's freaky but I blame Lucas for wanting to create a stringent aesthetic society and simply doing it the easiest way possible. It's not like he planned to make it a 50 year project spanning millions of spinoffs.

This.

Skleenar: WHAT DO TAUNTANS EAT?

What I was thinking. When I was young and first saw the movie(still not first run), my thought was that they must of been imported from some semi-ice planet and fed on imported/hothouse grown food. Otherwise they'd have to be eating growths from hot springs or something.

I also assumed Tauntauns were not native to Hoth. Another question is what sort of ecosystem exists on Hoth that supports a large predator like the Wampa, and if deleted scenes can be believed, lots of them.


There are a lot of thermal spots on Hoth, most of them in underground cavern systems and. The tauntauns usually stay in those place close to the warmth, wampas find it too hot (they stay out in the true cold of the planet, the ice fields and glaciers). Wampas will usually wait for tauntauns to go out into the cold areas during migrations and such to attack them, or they'll brave the heat for a moment to run in and cause a panic so they can pick off an individual that runs outside or into the colder parts of the caves. The tauntauns themselves are omnivorous and eat the lichens, mosses, and othe rplants that grow aorund the thremal areas and the smaller animals that feed on the plants.

/Wookieepedia junkie, someone help me
 
2012-08-08 07:56:03 PM

Mazzic518: kroonermanblack: StrangeQ: People still care about this shiat? It was a movie. A movie directed by a man that, while he had not yet developed full blown head-up-the-ass narcissism, was still woefully ignorant of all things sciencey and as such resorted to pulling much straight out of his ass. As such, there are many things in the movies that make absolutely no sense when you start to look at them objectively, but that's okay, because they were never meant to be. But the people that tie their identities to it so strongly that they feel obligated to retcon every little detail to ensure that the fantasy they have built for themselves doesn't evaporate like a wisp of cloud are just plain sad.

...every science fiction writer uses science as the 'magic go fuel' in their novels. EVERY ONE OF THEM. Because the stuff they write about? If at all possible, ever, certainly is far enough removed from current technology as to be 'magic'. They're no more interested in science than Dan F'ing Brown is interested in History. It's a fun make believe tool and nothing more.

radiovox: Well, now that we have that all figured out, can you scientists get back to work on finding a cure for a disease? ANY disease?

I'm a glorified electrician spanky.

Want me in a lab ruining budgets, dragging down grant funding from real deserving people, destroying equipment, and botching samples? Or can we admit that, hey, NOT EVERYONE ON THE farkING PLANET IS WORKING IN MEDICINE? Someone has to keep the power on at those hospitals and labs. That's what I do. So yes, technically, I AM working on curing a disease. What the fark are you doing besides being a biatch on fark?

Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

/I'm gonna pee in yer cereal tomorrow


Joke's on you! I don't eat cereal.

Alternate:

Joke's on you! I normally have to pay for that!
 
2012-08-08 08:24:06 PM

Mister Peejay: TeamEd: Ok Farkers, I've got a question: how does Han use Luke's lightsaber to open up the Tauntaun? I thought you needed to use the force to wield a lightsaber.

I think it's, you need the Force to WIELD a lightsaber, given how they have no blade mass and you really need to know where the beam is at all times.

Anybody can use one, but without the Force, you risk royally farking yourself up if you try to fight with it.

IIRC, General Grievous had zero Force ability, but he was pretty good with a light saber. Probably had some wicked anti-collision subroutines in his prosthetics, too.

/someone far more geeky than I will be by shortly to correct me or agree with me


You might have something I hadn't considered over 35 years.
 
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