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2012-08-07 06:22:31 PM  
My husband worked as a general manager for them when we were first married. They pay crap. The general managers were the only ones available for any kind of benefits, and the cost was outrageous.
 
2012-08-07 06:23:00 PM  

mekki: But then again, there was that story a couple of years ago how Florida wanted to raise certain luxury taxes in order to help low income children get a free school meal, probably the only meal they would be getting that day. The result of which would raise the cost of an average eating out meal four cents. And people were up in arms over that.


Yes, gotta love Florida. They have retired baby boomers relocating there by the boatloads, but they'll have no one there to change their Depends Undergarments or provide their sponge baths after they've run off everyone under the age of 60 and/or refused to pay for the education or training of what few that remain.
 
2012-08-07 06:23:38 PM  
so how do i know these prices are going up because of obamacare and not because of the drought which everyone is saying is going to raise food prices by 10-15cents? would papa johns be using the drought against obamacare?
 
2012-08-07 06:24:27 PM  
"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

*yawn*
 
2012-08-07 06:25:05 PM  
Can someone explain to me if a reason exist as to why they feel the need to raise prices beyond "OMG OBAMACARE IS BAD!1!" After all a corporation the size of Papa Johns needs to provide healthcare anyway so why does it matter?
 
2012-08-07 06:25:40 PM  
FARK THEM AND THEIR SHATTY PIZZA
 
2012-08-07 06:25:49 PM  
So I'm not clear, will Obamacare cost jobs or will the costs be passed on to the consumer?

Considering the people involved I'm going to guess both. Anything to pad the bottom line.
 
2012-08-07 06:25:50 PM  
Papa John's will cost more because of "Obamacare" the rising price of gas.

Fixed for the founder of Papa John's

/gas is about $4.50/gal here.
//yikes!
 
2012-08-07 06:26:29 PM  

Nabb1: what_now: Why the hell would you eat pizza in New Orleans? That's like going to Italy and eating Chinese food.

We're not visiting New Orleans. We live here. I'm positive Italians don't eat Italian food every night, either.

Also, there is a huge Italian-American community here. Mostly of Sicilian descent, I believe, given all the St. Joseph's Day observances.


NOLA native here. Creole and Cajun are obviously huge here, but don't discount the many other flavors here. you can easily get some killer Italian, Jamaican, Caribbean, and Vietnamese food there.


/now I'm craving grilled oysters from Dragos
//nomnomnom
 
2012-08-07 06:27:01 PM  

theknuckler_33: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

*yawn*


Why should I believe he's any better at making estimates than he is at making pizza?
 
2012-08-07 06:27:58 PM  
I'd be amazed if the price only goes up that little. Expenses go up --- prices go up.

Did you guys think that there would be no downside to providing everyone with health care? Of course we're all going to have to pay more for things and pay more in taxes.

Anyone else got a Marcos delivery pizza? They just moved into my neck of the woods and so far I think they are the best major chain delivery pizza I've had.
 
2012-08-07 06:27:58 PM  

RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.


Well, I've made MY decision.
/Has nothing to do with the taste of their pizza, or their prices.
 
2012-08-07 06:28:12 PM  

Elmo Jones: So? That crappy "pizza" could cost $20 more, and I wouldn't give a hoot in hell.

"Papa John" sets off my creep-o-meter, which is rarely wrong.


I know a guy who met John Schnatter, and you're not wrong. So Papa John's is sponsoring something or another, and he shows up at their office to meet with some executives, see how everything is going. He goes through every department and says hello, hands out some gift cards. He also changes into a new tailored shirt at predetermined locations throughout the building so as to minimize sweat stains. Over the course of the tour he changed shirts four or five times, which means there are four or five people with him at all times (hiding in stairwells, riding the elevator up and down, etc.) whose sole purpose is to make sure Schnatter can stealthily change out of his clothes.

He also said that the vibe Schnatter gave off was similar to the Girls Gone Wild guy.
 
2012-08-07 06:28:56 PM  

farkityfarker: I knew this thread would be full of foodies who hate pizza from chains for no other reason than it's from a chain. And that they would put pizza in quotes and call it cardboard and parrot other worn-out phrases. I only had to read the first ten posts or so to confirm my suspicions.


Pfft. You don't have to be a "foodie" to hate Papa John's. It is asstastic. Badly made, nasty sauce, awful crust and way overpriced.
 
2012-08-07 06:29:02 PM  
I'm a huge fan of Obamacare, and it's perfectly fine with me if people make the true cost of the changes known. If it costs Papa John's an extra 15 cents per pizza to comply with Obamacare, I think we should know that as consumers and taxpayers. Where Papa John goes wrong is in assuming we'll clutch our pearls and go faint because 15 cents per pizza is simply too much to pay to help people working minimum wage jobs afford health insurance. This thread has shown, fortunately, most of us are more compassionate than that (more compassionate than a prominent Republican CEO? Bet you didn't see that coming!). Besides, even if you remove the compassion for fellow human angle, making preventive health care affordable to as many people as possible is a good idea that will pay off in the long run.
 
2012-08-07 06:29:15 PM  
I wonder how much his pizza prices increased to help fund the fight against ACA?
 
2012-08-07 06:29:26 PM  
Haven't read the thread, hope someone beat me to it, but...

I won't buy your pizza anyway, you narc-supporting dicks.
 
2012-08-07 06:29:33 PM  
I have no problem buying a product made by happy workers who are not getting shafted. Far less spittle in the sauce that way.
 
2012-08-07 06:29:39 PM  
www.diamond-jim.com

Look at it.
LOOK AT IT!
LOOK AT IT!!!

TODAY IT'S 11 CENTS, TOMORROW IT'S YOUR GUNS, AND LATER SHARIA LAW!!! THIS IS FOLLOWED BE GAY COMMUNIST HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE!!!

SCREW YOU OBAMA!

/How'd I do? Enough anger?
 
2012-08-07 06:29:39 PM  
Another CEO that expects unrealistic profits.
 
2012-08-07 06:30:30 PM  
Are you threatening me?

Michael Bluth John Shartsplatter is threatening me.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-07 06:32:53 PM  

Sgt Otter: I'm wondering if they factored in the increased productivity, due to less people taking less sick days due to increased access to preventative / early treatment, in their numbers.


Naaaaaah.
 
2012-08-07 06:35:50 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Oh noes! Now I'll have to pay more money for a pizza that I never buy!


This.

Grimaldi's FTW.
 
2012-08-07 06:35:56 PM  

RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.


And yet anywhere you choose to go you'll be paying more for your food because of the HCB. That includes the grocery store where they'll have to raise prices to cover the cost of it too.

Did you people really think a herd of unicorns was going to drop money out of the sky to pay for your healthcare?
 
2012-08-07 06:36:20 PM  

violentsalvation: I don't care, your pizza sucks. Big Papa, the question I want to know is, just where do you stand on homosexschule marrrrge?



Nobody cares what your stance is, but if he uses profits to fund hate groups that's where people have a problem with it.

/I know you want to frame the debate only about what your ideas are because you know you have no real arguments
 
2012-08-07 06:36:23 PM  
So Papa John, a supporter of Romney, does not support the healthcare model that was originally implemented by Mitt Romney.

Yep, sounds about right.
 
2012-08-07 06:37:00 PM  
Of all the things that the ACA could cause to happen, this is THE. WORST. POSSIBLE. THING.
 
2012-08-07 06:37:21 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Did you guys think that there would be no downside to providing everyone with health care? Of course we're all going to have to pay more for things and pay more in taxes.


Do you honestly think you're not paying for it now when uninsured go to the ER as last line of resort healthcare?

Sorry, St. Ronald Free Market Reagan signed into law the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986 saying hospitals can't practice "patient dumping" and that the poor can't just be turned out in the street to die. As such, the only question left is what is the most efficient and cost effective way to handle that, and the previous system sure as flying fark wasn't it.
 
2012-08-07 06:37:36 PM  
i234.photobucket.com

11 cents more to provide healthcare for Americans? No problem.

Real American companies will probably just pick up the tab for consumers ... but only the good ones.
 
2012-08-07 06:37:59 PM  
Papa John always looks like he has to be at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2012-08-07 06:38:19 PM  
wow 11 to 14 cents per pizza? why haven't you given them healthcare already tight ass? jesus that's like 1/10th the price of one farking topping.
 
2012-08-07 06:38:20 PM  
I'm more pissed at the fact that 11 cents per pizza was all that was keeping these chucklefarks that run papa john's from being a responsible employer and taking care of their employees.

/but but shareholders!
 
2012-08-07 06:38:41 PM  

farkityfarker: full of foodies who hate pizza from chains for no other reason than it's from a chain.



So you're disingenuous in your arguments even about food, not just politics. Well at least you're consistently derpy
 
2012-08-07 06:39:01 PM  
I live in Louisville. Home of Papa John's and the same town John S lives in too. I know he's a big supporter of Southeast Christian Church which is one of the ten biggest megachurches in the country. He also bought a bunch of land and landmarks in one of the fancier parts of town (Anchorage) so he could ensure his house was in a "good" neighborhood.

That church is nuts. They're non-denominational so they can make their own doctrine but it is so big they've actually opened up satellite churches in the surrounding area in addition to the big giant complex you see as you're driving down I-64. You never really hear about them doing anything that could actually be said to help the community or anything either. The only time I've heard of that church getting into the public arena was putting up all kinds of anti-gay billboards around here and you'd see all kinds of yard signs and bumper stickers saying how bad the ghey sex is. That was more than enough to turn me off to them when I fist moved here. What sucks is that while the price of pizza might go up by a whole quarter (gasp!) to provide health care for his workers, I have read in the local paper about how John S tithes to his church which means that of that $11 million he made last year, he got a tax write off over $1 million to help fund stuff like that.
 
2012-08-07 06:40:05 PM  

abb3w: kronicfeld: Cost of pizza goes up
Cost of health insurance goes down
Can't explain that

Given the grease content of a Papa John's pizza, it seems pretty self-explanatory.


Try the grease content of a Pizza Hut pizza. After one of those, you'll think a Papa John's pizza is health food.
 
2012-08-07 06:40:16 PM  

RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.


Done in one.

Really, really tired of scare tactics and class warfare from these assholes.
 
2012-08-07 06:41:31 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Of course we're all going to have to pay more for things and pay more in taxes.



Except you already are paying a large amount not only in taxes that go to hospitals forced to treat uninsured, but in your insurance that ends up having to cover some of the cost.

So no, prices aren't automatically going up. The tax break offsets all cover any rising costs anyway. If all they could do with the scare tactics was say 11 cents then they have no real argument.
 
2012-08-07 06:42:01 PM  

Brubold: RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.

And yet anywhere you choose to go you'll be paying more for your food because of the HCB. That includes the grocery store where they'll have to raise prices to cover the cost of it too.




I am perfectly OK with this. $.11 cents per pizza and the guy bringing it to me now gets health insurance? It's a deal.
 
2012-08-07 06:42:40 PM  

intelligent comment below: violentsalvation: I don't care, your pizza sucks. Big Papa, the question I want to know is, just where do you stand on homosexschule marrrrge?


Nobody cares what your stance is, but if he uses profits to fund hate groups that's where people have a problem with it.

/I know you want to frame the debate only about what your ideas are because you know you have no real arguments


I was joking around, I do it often. Also, I could be wrong, but it looks like he was donating to a group that helps gays who are seeking public office, not that that matters to you. I know you misunderstand things a lot, and that's OK.
 
2012-08-07 06:43:53 PM  
Crappy pizza I never eat is going up by 11 cents. ok.
 
2012-08-07 06:44:44 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Papa John's = Derptard
Dominoes = founded by a prolife fundie nutjob
Godfather's = formerly run by Derptard
Pizza Hut = I don't know but they are the worst out of all the chains out there.

Make's me glad out of all the Pizza chains I could have worked for in college I wound up at Little Caesar's. Mr. Illitch by all reports is a nice guy, the family seems to be liberal but for the most part avoids talking about politics and he owns the Red Wings (my favorite team) and is trying to spend enough this year to get the Tigers into another World Series.



I worked for Dominoes and Pizza Hut in college.I even worked at a crappy Pizza Hut and we still made our dough fresh every day and gets fresh vegetable shipments every day. Dominoes ... not so much.
 
2012-08-07 06:44:50 PM  
Well, I guess I bought my last Papa John's pizza, EVER.
 
2012-08-07 06:46:04 PM  

jst3p: Brubold: RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.

And yet anywhere you choose to go you'll be paying more for your food because of the HCB. That includes the grocery store where they'll have to raise prices to cover the cost of it too.

I am perfectly OK with this. $.11 cents per pizza and the guy bringing it to me now gets health insurance? It's a deal.


They should offer that deal now. Your total is $17.46, however if you'd like everyone handling your pizza to be disease free the total will be $17.57. Would you like to spend the extra 11 cents?
 
2012-08-07 06:46:04 PM  

FloydA: Happy Hours:

Yeah, there's one great pizza place where I live but I can never remember the name and their prices are about 50% more than the major name brands and you only get one pizza for that price, not two. If you don't want cardboard pizza you gotta pay non-cardboard prices.

Yep. Fast, Good and Cheap: pick any two.


Or all three if we're talking about your mom.

/got nothin'
//i'll show myself out
 
2012-08-07 06:46:15 PM  
I'm glad I live in such a progressive society where the health of it's citizens is paramount to 15 cents on a farking pizza.

I hate America, and Americans. Yes, I did gtfo.
 
2012-08-07 06:46:43 PM  
Well, Papa John's just lost my business. Doesn't want to provide healthcare for his employees. Alright... then I won't buy any of your pizza.

Now it's time to go spread the word about how little they care about their employees.
 
2012-08-07 06:47:01 PM  
oh boofarking hoo, oh no! i have to pay a few extra bucks for some shiatty pizza.... thank god i can go see the doctor to get the shiats taken care of that it will cause.
 
2012-08-07 06:47:07 PM  
I'll go ahead and cover the difference for the first 2,000ish pizzas from the change bucket in my closet upstairs.
 
2012-08-07 06:47:18 PM  

meteorite: I live in Louisville. Home of Papa John's and the same town John S lives in too. I know he's a big supporter of Southeast Christian Church which is one of the ten biggest megachurches in the country. He also bought a bunch of land and landmarks in one of the fancier parts of town (Anchorage) so he could ensure his house was in a "good" neighborhood.

That church is nuts. They're non-denominational so they can make their own doctrine but it is so big they've actually opened up satellite churches in the surrounding area in addition to the big giant complex you see as you're driving down I-64. You never really hear about them doing anything that could actually be said to help the community or anything either. The only time I've heard of that church getting into the public arena was putting up all kinds of anti-gay billboards around here and you'd see all kinds of yard signs and bumper stickers saying how bad the ghey sex is. That was more than enough to turn me off to them when I fist moved here. What sucks is that while the price of pizza might go up by a whole quarter (gasp!) to provide health care for his workers, I have read in the local paper about how John S tithes to his church which means that of that $11 million he made last year, he got a tax write off over $1 million to help fund stuff like that.


I bought a softball shirt at Goodwill in Greenwood, IN, in 1996 that says "Southeast Christian - Louisville Kentucky" in baseballish script. More than once people have expressed elation that I'm wearing the shirt. I tell them that I bought it at Goodwill. Their reaction is rarely positive.

It's cool to finally know more about said church. I rarely sport the ironic Ts anymore seeing that I'm 36 so it's buried in a drawer. Knowing that it's anti-gay makes the wearing even more ironic.
 
2012-08-07 06:47:28 PM  
DadBoner is going to be pissed.
 
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