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(Politico)   Papa John's will cost more because of "Obamacare"   (politico.com ) divider line
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6312 clicks; posted to Politics » on 07 Aug 2012 at 5:56 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-08-07 05:07:44 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Well, the last thing I want is healthy people preparing my food.


www.whosawesome.com
 
2012-08-07 05:10:37 PM  
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?p e rsonId=325396&ticker=PZZA:US&previousCapId=325388&previousTitle=PAPA%2 0JOHN'S%20INTL%20INC

Executive Profile*
John H. Schnatter
Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Papa John's International Inc.
Age 50 Total Calculated Compensation $2,745,219 This person is connected to 6 board members in 1 different organizations across 2 different industries.

How dare we challenge his corporate salary with our demands that he quit vampirically sucking out the life of his employees.
 
2012-08-07 05:15:54 PM  
The dude should choke on the three pennies it adds to a slice. shiat tastes great but gives me the runs every time. I spend more on Immodium per slice
 
2012-08-07 05:16:30 PM  
We should get rid of all the illegal immigrants that pick the tomatoes for Papa. I'm sure that'll do wonders for the price of one of their shiat pie.
 
2012-08-07 05:21:27 PM  

violentsalvation: I don't care, your pizza sucks. Big Papa, the question I want to know is, just where do you stand on homosexschule marrrrge?


http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/John_Schnatter.php

Well, he is a subscriber to the old boys club. I'm guessing publicly against; privately doesn't care.
 
2012-08-07 05:26:28 PM  
So I guess Romneycare nearly drove them out of Massachusetts, huh?
 
2012-08-07 05:26:39 PM  

RexTalionis: I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.


I like this plan.
 
2012-08-07 05:27:19 PM  

coco ebert: Make your own pizza. Seriously, I'm lazy as hell and even I can whip together a decent pizza in no time flat.


YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT!
 
2012-08-07 05:31:37 PM  
Papa John's has 3,000 stores, 16,000 employees, and made $51 million in profits in 2010.

Its not a lemonade stand run by 7 year old girls.
 
2012-08-07 05:53:38 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: violentsalvation: I don't care, your pizza sucks. Big Papa, the question I want to know is, just where do you stand on homosexschule marrrrge?

http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/John_Schnatter.php

Well, he is a subscriber to the old boys club. I'm guessing publicly against; privately doesn't care.


Wait is Kentucky Victory Fund a branch of Victory Fund?
 
2012-08-07 05:58:44 PM  
As someone who had Papa John's for supper, I'm getting a kick...

\three people deliver here - Papa John's, the garlic-overloaded Dominos, or the very, very greasy local place
\\and whatever the foodies may say, Papa John's isn't that bad
\\\it's not the place that closed in my old neighborhood, but no one ever will be
 
2012-08-07 05:58:49 PM  

Elmo Jones: So? That crappy "pizza" could cost $20 more, and I wouldn't give a hoot in hell.

"Papa John" sets off my creep-o-meter, which is rarely wrong.


You don't want a mouthful of Papa's warm cheese?
 
2012-08-07 05:59:03 PM  
I have two pizza stones and an oven that goes to 550. It's not exactly like a clay oven, but it works.
 
2012-08-07 05:59:06 PM  
$.11 to $.14? So you're Obamacare doubles the cost to make a pizza?
 
2012-08-07 06:00:49 PM  

Weaver95: I really don't see why papa john's is biatching about spending .11 cents or so per pizza to make sure his employees have health care.


That's how "Job Creators ®" think.
 
2012-08-07 06:01:00 PM  
"Death Panels" was a lot scarier than marginally more expensive bad chain pizza, you guys.
 
2012-08-07 06:01:59 PM  
As a consumer of Papa John's I will gladly pay the increased price in order to ensure your employees have adequate health care. In fact, just to help offset things, add an extra $.50 to the pizza and consider giving them something resembling a decent wage.
 
2012-08-07 06:02:14 PM  
Papa John's still exists? I don't think I've seen one in over a decade.
 
2012-08-07 06:02:49 PM  
Papa Johns ceased to exist for me when the official company reaction to the delivery driver calling CPS because he smelled pot in a customers house was supportive of the employee.
 
2012-08-07 06:03:59 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

Simple solution: just don't cut the pizza then pass the savings on to the customer.
 
2012-08-07 06:04:20 PM  
Yeah, I'm fine with this. For lots of reasons already stated, including Matthew Yglesias's trenchant observations.
 
2012-08-07 06:04:22 PM  
I wish we didn't have poor people so that places like this wouldn't have employees
 
2012-08-07 06:04:22 PM  

propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

OK, raise your pizza prices by 11¢ so your employees can have coverage. Or, raise your prices by a couple bucks so you can make more profit per pie, blame 'Obamacare' for high prices and watch more customers go to Pizza Hut.


What color is the sky in your world? Why do you think Pizza Hut isn't going to raise their prices, too? Are they exempt from Obamacare?
 
2012-08-07 06:05:55 PM  
OHNOES! I'll have to not order your sh*tty pizza even harder now.
 
2012-08-07 06:06:16 PM  
Poor John, we should stop dairy farmer subsidy, (which is how he directly benefits from the Government), the price of cheese (one of the largest cost per pizza) would skyrocket. there he can pay his full cost
 
2012-08-07 06:06:54 PM  
When my local Papa Johns drivers are out on the road, they are paid about $5.50 an hour. Only when they are clocked in back at the store do they even make minimum wage.

The local owners are idiots and cheapskates and deserve to go out of business ASAP. A driver pays for gas, oil, car repairs, insurance and can possibly be robbed/killed/in major MVAs all for a shiatty pizza made by teenagers who don't know what sanitation is.


So fark em.

I can make my own awesome pizza, thank you.
 
2012-08-07 06:07:51 PM  
Well since I have Little Caeser's if I want a decent pizza immediately for $5, and Pepe's Pizza in New Haven when I'm feeling patient and want the best damn pizza in America, I don't really give a rat's ass.
 
2012-08-07 06:08:38 PM  
Cost of gas delivering pizza: 70¢*
Cost of health care: 15¢

*5 mile round trip, with a car that gets 25mpg city.

The cost of health care could be negated by hybrids.
 
2012-08-07 06:09:49 PM  

Bill Murray said I was weird: Well since I have Little Caeser's if I want a decent pizza immediately for $5


What color is the sky in your world?
 
2012-08-07 06:09:59 PM  

Lsherm: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

OK, raise your pizza prices by 11¢ so your employees can have coverage. Or, raise your prices by a couple bucks so you can make more profit per pie, blame 'Obamacare' for high prices and watch more customers go to Pizza Hut.

What color is the sky in your world? Why do you think Pizza Hut isn't going to raise their prices, too? Are they exempt from Obamacare?


They may choose to not raise the price, and the increase in customers that ditch Papa John's would overcome the extra cost.

And assuming this Papa John's guy is a good businessman, the price is ALREADY where the maximum revenue is. So his choices if costs were to raise due to Obamacare are 1) convince the customer to pay more 2) take a hit in profits 3) get out of the business. Keep in mind 1) is not guaranteed to work.
 
2012-08-07 06:10:10 PM  
If the only thing keeping you from providing health care to all your employees was $0.14 a pie, you should have been DOING THAT YEARS AGO!!! The majority of customers would not have noticed, those who did would keep ordering.

Asshat.
 
2012-08-07 06:12:32 PM  
Take your shiatty pizza and cram it up your ass along with your douchebaggery, asshole. Making sure your wage slaves get health care will cost me less in taxes than any increase in prices on products I do buy, which you can rest assured do not include that ketchup-on-cardboard monstrosity you have the unmitigated gall to call a pizza.

Now kindly fark off and eat a bowl of dicks, Papa Jackoff.
 
2012-08-07 06:12:36 PM  
always the farking profit over people with Capitalist America.

did you see the post stating how much this Slave owner pays himself? and rather than eat a small percentage of his pay (which is way to high) to provide his employes, his team, with health insurance, he makes it into a stump for political blackmail and threatens the customers that made him what he is.

this kind of greed makes me sick, is there a doctor in the house? i have insurance.
 
2012-08-07 06:12:36 PM  
"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

So I can't either pay .10 cents less for shiatty pizza or have my insurer cover me for pre-existing conditions if I get cancer.

Gee, that's a tough choice.
 
2012-08-07 06:14:25 PM  

FloydA: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Well, the last thing I want is healthy people preparing my food.

Awesome.


Remember all the crying about Seattle's sick leave ordinance? Restaurants do prefer their employees to be sick while working.
 
2012-08-07 06:14:33 PM  

jst3p: Bill Murray said I was weird: Well since I have Little Caeser's if I want a decent pizza immediately for $5

What color is the sky in your world?


Chartreuse.
 
2012-08-07 06:15:56 PM  

FloydA: Pagliacci Pizza in Seattle is excellent, for delivery pizza.


Zeeks.
 
2012-08-07 06:16:37 PM  

what_now: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.

Because I'm not a farking sociopath.


Amazing how little they think of their own employees. You are so disposable that we are going to whine to the public that giving you health care is going to raise the price of pizza up slightly over a dime and I am sure everyone will be on our side in outrage.

But then again, there was that story a couple of years ago how Florida wanted to raise certain luxury taxes in order to help low income children get a free school meal, probably the only meal they would be getting that day. The result of which would raise the cost of an average eating out meal four cents. And people were up in arms over that.

Okay, most of the people who were whining over that were seniors. And seniors some of the most, "GIMME GIMME GIMME, NOW GO AWAY, I WON'T SHARE!" selfish brats on the planet. But still.
 
2012-08-07 06:16:54 PM  
NTM if jackasses like this would have provided their low wage workers with some insurance in the first place, there would be no need for "Obamacare".


Farking piece of shiat greedy motherfuka.

Papa Johns, never again, enjoy your endorsement Mittens.
 
2012-08-07 06:17:36 PM  
I'd rather sniff Rosie O'Donnell's buttcrack than to eat a Papa John's pizza.
 
2012-08-07 06:18:03 PM  
But if less people order pizza, then less people will need healthcare. IT'S LIKE THROWING MONEY AWAY!

The GOP plan is better: repeal healthcare laws -> the poor get more cheap pizza -> the poor die early due to untreated health problems brought on by cheap pizza -> less burden on social security and medicare -> balanced budget!

Aside from the evil, it is perfect!
 
2012-08-07 06:18:08 PM  
So the price of pizza goes up by $.10 per pizza across the board, because I'm assuming they were using the most pessimistic numbers possible. If I ordered Papa John's every day for a year, that would be a grand total of $5 more for my yearly pizza intake.

I can now see what the right means when they say Obamacare is fascism. Everyone knows the general game plan for a power hungry dictator is 1) raise the price of pizza my a miniscule amount, then 2) concentration camps.
 
2012-08-07 06:19:15 PM  

what_now: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.

Because I'm not a farking sociopath.


Even if you're a self absorbed sociopath totally oblivious or unsympathetic to anyone's struggles but your own, I think it would be worth an extra .10 cents a pizza to ensure that your insurer can never drop you for convenient "pre-existing conditions".
 
2012-08-07 06:19:57 PM  

Bill Murray said I was weird: since I have Little Caeser's if I want a decent pizza immediately for $5


Does "decent pizza" mean intestinal cramps in your language?
 
2012-08-07 06:20:53 PM  

Sgt Otter: I'm wondering if they factored in the increased productivity, due to less people taking less sick days due to increased access to preventative / early treatment, in their numbers.


For such conditions as allergies and headaches, on-the-job productivity losses could account for over 80 percent of employers' total illness costs, the Cornell and Medstat researchers report in the first study to add the cost of on-the-job productivity losses from common health problems to total employer health-related expenses.
"All in all, this means that from about one-fifth to three-fifths of the total dollars attributable to common health conditions faced by employers appear to be the result of on-the-job productivity losses," says Ron Goetzel, director of IHPS. He notes that headaches, allergies, arthritis, asthma and mental health-related problems such as depression incur the greatest on-the-job productivity losses.

"In this day and age where employers are hesitant to hire because of skyrocketing medical care costs, it's important to broaden the view of health costs beyond the cost of patient care," Goetzel says. "If a company's health plan is poor, for example, disorders may not be well managed. Workers will come to work and not be as productive. Employers need to weigh the costs of good medical care against the potential for on-the-job productivity losses, which we see are substantial in many cases."

Source.

Schnatter is lying to you. His actuaries have already shown him a profit increase as a result of boosted productivity gains from healthy workers. A shrewd man to spin a gain as a loss and increase his prices, further padding his bottom line and advancing his ideology at the same time.
 
2012-08-07 06:21:03 PM  
First CFA now Papa Johns; the good news is that I should start to loose a lot of weight by not purchasing from these idiots.
 
2012-08-07 06:21:26 PM  
I knew this thread would be full of foodies who hate pizza from chains for no other reason than it's from a chain. And that they would put pizza in quotes and call it cardboard and parrot other worn-out phrases. I only had to read the first ten posts or so to confirm my suspicions.
 
2012-08-07 06:21:39 PM  
It's probably already been said, but if you have Papa John's for every meal, every day, it will cost an extra $120.45 (at 11 cents). If that pays for one of their employees to be covered by insurance, then I'm okay with that.
 
2012-08-07 06:22:12 PM  
I don't care if it's an additional $10 per pizza and $15 per six pack of Miller Lite.

It's all worth it if I understand the Affordable Care Act correctly.
 
2012-08-07 06:22:13 PM  
My best estimate is that Papa Johns inflicted singring and dysentery costs taxpayers $.20 per pie in unpaid healthcare costs.

In any event, what a whiny cockpotato.
 
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