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2012-08-07 04:13:45 PM
Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.
 
2012-08-07 04:15:35 PM
John S

Dusk-You-n-Me: John H. Schnatter
Founder, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer

TotalCompensation $2,614,516
Data for fiscal year ended in 2011


Net worth $240 million (from wikipedia)
 
2012-08-07 04:16:07 PM

Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.


Little Caesar's doesn't deliver. Advantage: Papa John's.
 
2012-08-07 04:18:05 PM
"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

sooo...the cost is negligible AND you have your employees covered when it comes to health care. Why is this a problem?
 
2012-08-07 04:18:29 PM

coco ebert: Make your own pizza. Seriously, I'm lazy as hell and even I can whip together a decent pizza in no time flat.


I like the Take & Bake pizza places, like Papa Murphy's. Even though they don't deliver, you can snag one while you're out running errands and then keep it in the fridge until dinner time.
 
2012-08-07 04:19:31 PM
I would boycott Papa Johns if I didn't already not eat there.
 
2012-08-07 04:19:41 PM

Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on..


I think I like calling it 'obamacare' because it drives the GOP shills nuts. SCOTUS ruled it constitutional and they...can't handle it. Obamacare, Obamacare Obamacare!

*sigh*

you can almost hear the screams of outrage.
 
2012-08-07 04:20:45 PM
If people are already buying your crappy pizza, a couple more cents won't stop them.
 
2012-08-07 04:20:52 PM

Nabb1: Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.

Little Caesar's doesn't deliver. Advantage: Papa John's.


Don't care. I can drive a mile to pick up a cheap, decent pizza if the boyfriend and I want one.
 
2012-08-07 04:21:58 PM

Coco LaFemme: Nabb1: Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.

Little Caesar's doesn't deliver. Advantage: Papa John's.

Don't care. I can drive a mile to pick up a cheap, decent pizza if the boyfriend and I want one.


That's great. I prefer delivery. Much easier for me personally.
 
2012-08-07 04:22:59 PM

Petit_Merdeux: which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.


Yeah, now that my neighborhood just got a Papa Johns, I know not to bother giving them my business.
 
2012-08-07 04:24:12 PM

NuttierThanEver:
Make's me glad out of all the Pizza chains I could have worked for in college I wound up at Little Caesar's. Mr. Illitch by all reports is a nice guy, the family seems to be liberal but for the most part avoids talking about politics and he owns the Red Wings (my favorite team) and is trying to spend enough this year to get the Tigers into another World Series.


It's not just that he owns the sports teams - he really seems to be trying, in the way he knows how, to help keep Detroit alive as a community. Illitch is one of my heroes (until I find out some deal-breaker about him); sadly, his pizza is horrible.
 
2012-08-07 04:28:24 PM

gilgigamesh: Petit_Merdeux: which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.

Yeah, now that my neighborhood just got a Papa Johns, I know not to bother giving them my business.


I don't see what the big deal is. The cost of pizza is going up a couple of dimes to reflect an increase in cost per unit. He's just stating the obvious.

/BTW, try Magazine Pizza. It's really, really good.
 
2012-08-07 04:29:32 PM

Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.


"You want to call it Obamacare - that's okay, because I do care," Obama said at a fundraiser in Atlanta late last week.
 
2012-08-07 04:30:46 PM

Nabb1: That's great. I prefer delivery. Much easier for me personally.


Don't you live uptown? You must have more pizza delivery options than you could possibly need. Reginellis, Pepperonis, New York Pizza, right off the top of my head.
 
2012-08-07 04:31:26 PM
Papa John's, rephrased.

We COULD give our employees insurance now, but that would cost us almost $.12 per pizza (I wonder what ingredient that compares to...), and our employees just AREN'T worth that much to us...
 
2012-08-07 04:34:27 PM

gilgigamesh: Nabb1: That's great. I prefer delivery. Much easier for me personally.

Don't you live uptown? You must have more pizza delivery options than you could possibly need. Reginellis, Pepperonis, New York Pizza, right off the top of my head.


Sure, but I like Papa John's wings (yeah, I said it - and they're baked, so they aren't as bad as fries and honestly, there aren't many places in this town to get good wings, which I find really odd) and my son loves the bread sticks. But, lately we've been ordering from Magazine Pizza. I don't know where you live, but they're fairly new and they have really, really good pizza.
 
2012-08-07 04:34:27 PM
Well, the last thing I want is healthy people preparing my food.
 
2012-08-07 04:36:08 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Well, the last thing I want is healthy people preparing my food.


Flawless Victory.
 
2012-08-07 04:36:48 PM
The horror.
The. Horror.
 
2012-08-07 04:36:52 PM
I really don't see why papa john's is biatching about spending .11 cents or so per pizza to make sure his employees have health care.
 
2012-08-07 04:37:03 PM
I suppose the only thing left to add is that if an additional 14 cents pushes the pizza out of the customer's price range, s/he is probably not ordering pizza all that often anyway.
 
2012-08-07 04:37:06 PM

Nabb1: gilgigamesh: Petit_Merdeux: which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.

Yeah, now that my neighborhood just got a Papa Johns, I know not to bother giving them my business.

I don't see what the big deal is. The cost of pizza is going up a couple of dimes to reflect an increase in cost per unit. He's just stating the obvious.


I am not sure this is an actual statement of costs he will have to pass on, so much as it is petulance and/or political posturing. John Schnatter is a major player for the Romney campaign.

Anyway about the only delivery I can get is Reginellis. Papa Johns just opened at Robt E Lee and Paris. Between the two.... eh, I am going to stick with Reginellis.

/BTW, try Magazine Pizza. It's really, really good.

I will bear that in mind. Its rare when I eat uptown, and that is too far for them to deliver to me. But this city is in serious need of decent pizza. Which is odd because pizza/italian places are ubiquitious.
 
2012-08-07 04:39:52 PM

Nabb1: He's just stating the obvious.


If I was a CEO, I wouldn't "vow" to pass on the cost to my customers. I would "grudgingly" pass them on, or "regretfully" pass them on.

Unless I was a raging farkwad who thought my customers were worthless vermin.
 
2012-08-07 04:40:25 PM
Or better yet, tell Papa John and all the chains to shove their craptastic pizza and buy from a local pizzeria.


/I Heart NY Pizza FTW
 
2012-08-07 04:40:46 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Well, the last thing I want is healthy people preparing my food.


Awesome.
 
2012-08-07 04:41:09 PM

gilgigamesh: I will bear that in mind. Its rare when I eat uptown, and that is too far for them to deliver to me. But this city is in serious need of decent pizza. Which is odd because pizza/italian places are ubiquitious.


I've never figured out the lack of really good pizza here. Theo's is pretty good, but they don't deliver. Slice is another good one. They used to do Sicilian style when they first opened but stopped because they weren't selling enough of it. Apparently the dough has to proof twice as long as regular pizza dough, so they gave up on it.
 
2012-08-07 04:41:51 PM

Weaver95: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

sooo...the cost is negligible AND you have your employees covered when it comes to health care. Why is this a problem?


Because corporate America has trained itself to believe that any money spent on employees is simply lost profit.
 
2012-08-07 04:43:05 PM

gilgigamesh: Nabb1: gilgigamesh: Petit_Merdeux: which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.

Yeah, now that my neighborhood just got a Papa Johns, I know not to bother giving them my business.

I don't see what the big deal is. The cost of pizza is going up a couple of dimes to reflect an increase in cost per unit. He's just stating the obvious.

I am not sure this is an actual statement of costs he will have to pass on, so much as it is petulance and/or political posturing. John Schnatter is a major player for the Romney campaign.

Anyway about the only delivery I can get is Reginellis. Papa Johns just opened at Robt E Lee and Paris. Between the two.... eh, I am going to stick with Reginellis.

/BTW, try Magazine Pizza. It's really, really good.

I will bear that in mind. Its rare when I eat uptown, and that is too far for them to deliver to me. But this city is in serious need of decent pizza. Which is odd because pizza/italian places are ubiquitious.


I've heard Slice on St. Charles is good as well. They don't deliver though, only pick up .
 
2012-08-07 04:44:09 PM

Nabb1: Sure, but I like Papa John's wings (yeah, I said it - and they're baked, so they aren't as bad as fries and honestly, there aren't many places in this town to get good wings, which I find really odd) and my son loves the bread sticks. But, lately we've been ordering from Magazine Pizza. I don't know where you live, but they're fairly new and they have really, really good pizza.


Tell me about it. A little piece of me died when Wing Zone folded. Or more probably, my life got prolonged by 3 or 4 years. Anyway, I hear you.

Have you tried the place that replaced them? It isn't wing zone, but they are deep fried, proper wings. I forget the name, but its in the same place.

Also, for your edification:

- Bayou Beer Garden: proper, cheap, no bullshiat buffalo wings. Good chunky bleu cheese.

- Fat Harry's: ditto. Also (last time I checked) wings are half price, along with half price pitchers, for Monday Night Football.

- Bull Dog: decent wings, the real deal, but hit or miss on quality. Plus for some reason they think they can get away with charging $12 FOR F*CKING CHICKEN WINGS. But sometimes its 1 am and you need wings.
 
2012-08-07 04:44:31 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Weaver95: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza, or 15 to 20 cents per order from a corporate basis," Schnatter said.

sooo...the cost is negligible AND you have your employees covered when it comes to health care. Why is this a problem?

Because corporate America has trained itself to believe that any money spent on employees is simply lost profit.


well of course. I mean...we can't have the peons getting uppity now can we?
 
2012-08-07 04:44:39 PM

coco ebert: gilgigamesh: Nabb1: gilgigamesh: Petit_Merdeux: which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.

Yeah, now that my neighborhood just got a Papa Johns, I know not to bother giving them my business.

I don't see what the big deal is. The cost of pizza is going up a couple of dimes to reflect an increase in cost per unit. He's just stating the obvious.

I am not sure this is an actual statement of costs he will have to pass on, so much as it is petulance and/or political posturing. John Schnatter is a major player for the Romney campaign.

Anyway about the only delivery I can get is Reginellis. Papa Johns just opened at Robt E Lee and Paris. Between the two.... eh, I am going to stick with Reginellis.

/BTW, try Magazine Pizza. It's really, really good.

I will bear that in mind. Its rare when I eat uptown, and that is too far for them to deliver to me. But this city is in serious need of decent pizza. Which is odd because pizza/italian places are ubiquitious.

I've heard Slice on St. Charles is good as well. They don't deliver though, only pick up .


I love this. You get any number of New Orleanians in a thread on any topic and eventually they'll start talking about places to eat.
 
2012-08-07 04:45:51 PM
This coming from a guy with a net worth of $240 million. I'm trying to shed a tear about the fact that he'll only rake in $10.95 million in 2014 instead of the usual $11 million. *sob*

Why don't you Obamatards care about how you're hurting these poor CEOs?!?!
 
2012-08-07 04:46:30 PM

gilgigamesh: Nabb1: Sure, but I like Papa John's wings (yeah, I said it - and they're baked, so they aren't as bad as fries and honestly, there aren't many places in this town to get good wings, which I find really odd) and my son loves the bread sticks. But, lately we've been ordering from Magazine Pizza. I don't know where you live, but they're fairly new and they have really, really good pizza.

Tell me about it. A little piece of me died when Wing Zone folded. Or more probably, my life got prolonged by 3 or 4 years. Anyway, I hear you.

Have you tried the place that replaced them? It isn't wing zone, but they are deep fried, proper wings. I forget the name, but its in the same place.

Also, for your edification:

- Bayou Beer Garden: proper, cheap, no bullshiat buffalo wings. Good chunky bleu cheese.

- Fat Harry's: ditto. Also (last time I checked) wings are half price, along with half price pitchers, for Monday Night Football.

- Bull Dog: decent wings, the real deal, but hit or miss on quality. Plus for some reason they think they can get away with charging $12 FOR F*CKING CHICKEN WINGS. But sometimes its 1 am and you need wings.


Bayou Wingery replaces Wild Wings. They're okay. They bread the wings before frying, a big no-no in my book texture-wise, but they taste good. I used to get wings at the Bulldog and often noted they were hit-or-miss. I haven't been to the Bulldog in ages.
 
2012-08-07 04:48:51 PM

Nabb1: Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.

Little Caesar's doesn't deliver. Advantage: Papa John's.


That's funny, I spent 2 years delivering Pizza for them
 
2012-08-07 04:50:17 PM

coco ebert: Make your own pizza. Seriously, I'm lazy as hell and even I can whip together a decent pizza in no time flat.


Commie.
 
2012-08-07 04:51:40 PM

DeltaPunch: This coming from a guy with a net worth of $240 million. I'm trying to shed a tear about the fact that he'll only rake in $10.95 million in 2014 instead of the usual $11 million. *sob*

Why don't you Obamatards care about how you're hurting these poor CEOs?!?!


at least he won't pay any taxes on that $10.95 million.
 
2012-08-07 04:51:49 PM

NuttierThanEver: That's funny, I spent 2 years delivering Pizza for them


Huh. Maybe some used to, but none of the ones here or where I lived in SC did.
 
2012-08-07 04:52:20 PM

Nabb1: Bayou Wingery replaces Wild Wings. They're okay. They bread the wings before frying, a big no-no in my book texture-wise, but they taste good. I used to get wings at the Bulldog and often noted they were hit-or-miss. I haven't been to the Bulldog in ages.


You can request your wings "naked" at Bayou. Problem solved. In fact, they know me so well when I call I don't even need to tell them any more. I like the sauce, I just think their wings are a little small. I go out of my way to patronize them because they are just a couple of nice young guys struggling with an entrepreneurial dream. I like seeing that.

I know its tough for you to get out and eat given your family way, but if you ever do get to get away, give Bayou Beer Garden in mid-city a shot. Good beer, great spot for football, and proper wings.
 
2012-08-07 04:53:05 PM
Why the hell would you eat pizza in New Orleans? That's like going to Italy and eating Chinese food.
 
2012-08-07 04:54:15 PM

gilgigamesh: You can request your wings "naked" at Bayou. Problem solved. In fact, they know me so well when I call I don't even need to tell them any more. I like the sauce, I just think their wings are a little small. I go out of my way to patronize them because they are just a couple of nice young guys struggling with an entrepreneurial dream. I like seeing that.


I'll have to remember that.

I know its tough for you to get out and eat given your family way, but if you ever do get to get away, give Bayou Beer Garden in mid-city a shot. Good beer, great spot for football, and proper wings.

I'll give that a shot. On the occasions I do get out for a beer and some sports watching, I'm either at Bruno's or Cooter Brown's.
 
2012-08-07 04:56:30 PM

what_now: Why the hell would you eat pizza in New Orleans? That's like going to Italy and eating Chinese food.


Funny story. I went to a Chinese restaurant when I was in Milan. The waitress didn't speak English, we didn't speak Italian, so we communicated in Spanish.
 
2012-08-07 04:56:48 PM

what_now: Why the hell would you eat pizza in New Orleans? That's like going to Italy and eating Chinese food.


We're not visiting New Orleans. We live here. I'm positive Italians don't eat Italian food every night, either.

Also, there is a huge Italian-American community here. Mostly of Sicilian descent, I believe, given all the St. Joseph's Day observances.
 
2012-08-07 04:57:38 PM
Nabb1

LOL. The funny thing is, I'm not even a New Orleanian but I've spent three summers there and already feel like I could talk for hours about restaurants. Good lord does that city love its food.
 
2012-08-07 04:58:02 PM

Nabb1: I'll give that a shot. On the occasions I do get out for a beer and some sports watching, I'm either at Bruno's or Cooter Brown's.


Cooters has a far better beer selection, of course, but BBG has a nice big courtyard in back and lots of TVs. Its definitely worth a try.
 
2012-08-07 05:01:41 PM

Nabb1: what_now: Why the hell would you eat pizza in New Orleans? That's like going to Italy and eating Chinese food.

We're not visiting New Orleans. We live here. I'm positive Italians don't eat Italian food every night, either.

Also, there is a huge Italian-American community here. Mostly of Sicilian descent, I believe, given all the St. Joseph's Day observances.


What kills me is that every year, freaking Popeyes wins Gambits readers choice for best red beans and rice in town.

What kills me even more is that with the exception of a handful of places, it actually is one of the best.
 
2012-08-07 05:02:44 PM

gilgigamesh: Nabb1: I'll give that a shot. On the occasions I do get out for a beer and some sports watching, I'm either at Bruno's or Cooter Brown's.

Cooters has a far better beer selection, of course, but BBG has a nice big courtyard in back and lots of TVs. Its definitely worth a try.


Fries with debris and cheese... oh, my.
 
2012-08-07 05:03:01 PM
Does this mean we all have to go now to the nearest Papa John's and start kissing men on the mouth? Cause my lips are still chapped from the last protest.
 
2012-08-07 05:06:13 PM

Nabb1: Fries with debris and cheese... oh, my.


Yessir.

Last time I got that, I took it home and it lasted me two days after.
 
2012-08-07 05:06:23 PM

Endrick: Coco LaFemme: Anyone that calls the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare" as a means to slur it, is an asshole. Good to know what side of the asshole/non-asshole ledger this clown goes on.

There's a Little Caesar's about a mile from our house that's going to get an uptick in our business now, because anyone who sees a problem in raising prices a few cents so their workers can get health care, is too stupid to get my money.

"You want to call it Obamacare - that's okay, because I do care," Obama said at a fundraiser in Atlanta late last week.


I said "to slur it". Did you not catch that part?
 
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