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(Politico)   Papa John's will cost more because of "Obamacare"   (politico.com) divider line 629
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2012-08-07 02:56:42 PM
I, as a consumer, have 2 options, Papa John.

1) I'd gladly pay the dime or two it takes for you to give your employees healthcare or
2) I'll take my business elsewhere and hope you go out of business.
 
2012-08-07 03:00:07 PM
Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

/one less crappy pizza chain is fine with me
 
2012-08-07 03:02:04 PM
"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

OK, raise your pizza prices by 11¢ so your employees can have coverage. Or, raise your prices by a couple bucks so you can make more profit per pie, blame 'Obamacare' for high prices and watch more customers go to Pizza Hut.
 
2012-08-07 03:02:48 PM
Cost of pizza goes up
Cost of health insurance goes down
Can't explain that
 
2012-08-07 03:04:00 PM
Papa Johns is gross anyway.
 
2012-08-07 03:04:46 PM
Romney/Papa 2012
 
2012-08-07 03:06:48 PM
So? That crappy "pizza" could cost $20 more, and I wouldn't give a hoot in hell.

"Papa John" sets off my creep-o-meter, which is rarely wrong.
 
2012-08-07 03:07:02 PM
Great, just great. Now whatever I save on healthcare will be completely nullified by the massive increase in my pizza budget. Thanks, OBUMMER.
 
2012-08-07 03:08:21 PM
I live around the corner from 2 real pizzerias and less than a mile from a 3rd. I have no need for that garbage.
 
2012-08-07 03:09:50 PM
John H. Schnatter
Founder, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer

TotalCompensation $2,614,516
Data for fiscal year ended in 2011
 
2012-08-07 03:12:32 PM
fark "papa" john schnatter and his shiatty pizza.
 
2012-08-07 03:12:44 PM
Wow, these asshat CEO-types just keep talking their way right out of my wallet.
 
2012-08-07 03:13:01 PM
Personally, I think Papa's is the best of the of the big 3 pizza chains. Having said that, I personally never order from the big 3 chains. Ever since I went to college, I've lived in a town big enough to have a good local NY style pizza joint with reasonable prices. But then again, I view pizza as an occasional treat, not something where an 11 cent per pie increase would break the bank.
 
2012-08-07 03:13:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza


Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.
 
2012-08-07 03:14:21 PM
Papa John's: Better Herp, Better Derp, Higher Prices.
 
2012-08-07 03:15:08 PM

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.


True, none of them are real great, but some are worse than others

/my ex was a manager for a Papa John's store
//I tried it once and wouldn't eat it again even if it was free
 
2012-08-07 03:16:34 PM

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.


I'm not asking for amazing service though. I'm asking for a quality product. That's all. They can't even do that right.
 
2012-08-07 03:16:34 PM

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.


I live in a crappy Dallas suburb and I've got a local place that delivers good NY style pizza. Not the best I've ever had, but good. It's like $11 for a 16-inch 2 topping pizza, so yeah. The major chains suck by comparison.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-08-07 03:16:43 PM

Happy Hours: WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.


Or you can order from local pizza stores that actually know how to cook a pizza. Sure it costs more, but the taste is better and the quality is better. You pay for what you get.
 
2012-08-07 03:19:17 PM
I miss Little Caesar's.
 
2012-08-07 03:22:19 PM

kronicfeld: I miss Little Caesar's.


We still have them around here. There's one 10 minutes from my house. I'll pick up a $5 Hot-N-Ready every now and then. One time I got there five minutes before close and they gave me 2-for-1.
 
2012-08-07 03:25:38 PM

kronicfeld: Cost of pizza goes up
Cost of health insurance goes down
Can't explain that


Given the grease content of a Papa John's pizza, it seems pretty self-explanatory.
 
2012-08-07 03:27:09 PM

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?


Depends on where you live. Pagliacci Pizza in Seattle is excellent, for delivery pizza.

Major national chains are designed to be bland, flavorless glop, on purpose. Local places are almost always better.
 
2012-08-07 03:33:19 PM

Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes.


Eh. Vocelli's isn't bad, but I've sworn off Domino's completely and PJ's isn't spectacular but I do like thier "two free toppings for every touchdown your team scores when they win" thing

Little Sleazers is rapidly becoming a go-to because of the can't miss price and speed of pick-up (but it nothing like the glorious litle ceasers of the early 90's, more's the pity)

But when I want a GOOD pizza? Delivery ain;t really an option, going out to the place with the uber-hot wood-burning oven is the only way to make that happen
 
2012-08-07 03:34:01 PM

propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."


Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.


Because I'm not a farking sociopath.
 
2012-08-07 03:34:47 PM

Happy Hours: WTF? Everyone hates on every single major pizza delivery service. It's pizza and they bring it to your door, It's not a gourmet meal and you aren't going to eat it in a nice restaurant where they refill your water glass every 5 minutes


So it's elitist to call Papa John's disgusting?

Goddamn right I'm elitist.
 
2012-08-07 03:35:10 PM

FloydA: Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

Depends on where you live. Pagliacci Pizza in Seattle is excellent, for delivery pizza.

Major national chains are designed to be bland, flavorless glop, on purpose. Local places are almost always better.


Yeah, there's one great pizza place where I live but I can never remember the name and their prices are about 50% more than the major name brands and you only get one pizza for that price, not two. If you don't want cardboard pizza you gotta pay non-cardboard prices.
 
2012-08-07 03:37:45 PM

Happy Hours: FloydA: Happy Hours: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your pizza is more crappy than even that other asshats cardboard pizza

Is there any delivery pizza chain that doesn't suck?

Depends on where you live. Pagliacci Pizza in Seattle is excellent, for delivery pizza.

Major national chains are designed to be bland, flavorless glop, on purpose. Local places are almost always better.

Yeah, there's one great pizza place where I live but I can never remember the name and their prices are about 50% more than the major name brands and you only get one pizza for that price, not two. If you don't want cardboard pizza you gotta pay non-cardboard prices.


I get my pizza at a local place that sells slices for about $2. It tastes delicious.

/I even leave my house to get it myself
 
2012-08-07 03:39:32 PM

what_now: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.

Because I'm not a farking sociopath.


I'm wondering if they factored in the increased productivity, due to less people taking less sick days due to increased access to preventative / early treatment, in their numbers.
 
2012-08-07 03:40:12 PM
Oh noes! Now I'll have to pay more money for a pizza that I never buy!
 
2012-08-07 03:41:03 PM

Happy Hours:

Yeah, there's one great pizza place where I live but I can never remember the name and their prices are about 50% more than the major name brands and you only get one pizza for that price, not two. If you don't want cardboard pizza you gotta pay non-cardboard prices.


Yep. Fast, Good and Cheap: pick any two.
 
2012-08-07 03:43:23 PM
I live somewhere that has fast, good, and cheap pizza.
 
2012-08-07 03:46:51 PM

Sgt Otter: what_now: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.

Because I'm not a farking sociopath.

I'm wondering if they factored in the increased productivity, due to less people taking less sick days due to increased access to preventative / early treatment, in their numbers.


My guess is, if they're saying it would be an 11-14 cent increase per pizza, that's probably due to a 3¢ increase for 'Obabamcare' and an 8¢ increase in profit that they'll blame on 'Obamacare.'
 
2012-08-07 03:47:38 PM

Sgt Otter: what_now: propasaurus: "Our best estimate is that the Obamacare will cost 11 to 14 cents per pizza..."

Well, you're full of shiat, but ok, I'll bite:

I WOULD PAY AN EXTRA ELEVEN TO FOURTEEN CENTS TO STOP MY FELLOW CITIZENS FROM DYING OF EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASES.

Because I'm not a farking sociopath.

I'm wondering if they factored in the increased productivity, due to less people taking less sick days due to increased access to preventative / early treatment, in their numbers.


If they take that into account then to be fair, they also have to take into account increased sick days for PJs management who have to endure the psychological trauma of living with another four years of Minusbama Presidenting while Muslin.
 
2012-08-07 03:49:07 PM
To steal from Yglesias:

Stipulating for a moment that this is true, doesn't it seem like a rather small price to pay? Papa John's website is currently offering to deliver me a large pepperoni pizza for $14.08 and Schnatter is warning me that the problem with ObamaCare is . . . a one-time price increase of less than one percent! That seems eminently reasonable. What's more, it's well within the range of the kind of price swings Papa John's is going to have to expect just based on the vagaries of the weather (which impact the price of ingredients) and the ups and downs of the oil market. There's just no there there.
 
2012-08-07 03:50:12 PM
Somebody doesn't know how the laws of supply & demand work, do they?
 
2012-08-07 03:54:48 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Somebody doesn't know how the laws of supply & demand work, do they?


But they sure know how fear & deception work.
 
2012-08-07 03:59:15 PM
Yet they still have a $2.00 Delivery Fee.
 
2012-08-07 04:00:56 PM
I'm not losing any sleep over this.
 
2012-08-07 04:01:16 PM
I don't care, your pizza sucks. Big Papa, the question I want to know is, just where do you stand on homosexschule marrrrge?
 
2012-08-07 04:03:46 PM
Right now, somewhere, a Papa John's delivery guy is handing over a pizza to someone who's sneering "I'd tip you, but after that Obamacare price increase I just can't afford it."

Said person deserves to have his front porch be set upon by a syphilitic rhinoceros force-fed jalapeno peppers and ex-lax
 
2012-08-07 04:05:16 PM
which they vowed to pass onto consumers

Gee, thanks. Assholes.
 
2012-08-07 04:05:35 PM
11 to 14 cents per pizza,

encrypted-tbn1.google.com
 
2012-08-07 04:06:57 PM
Oh, and several years ago all the pizza places around me tacked on a $1.00 - $2.00 per order "delivery fee" purportedly to compensate for the increase in the cost of gas, when there was no chance that the increased cost of gas for a single delivery came anywhere close to that amount - much less the multiple deliveries made on each outing by a delivery driver. And, I noticed, that delivery fee didn't gone anywhere when the price of gas decreased. Curious, that.
 
2012-08-07 04:07:37 PM
In their defense, 11 to 14 cents is the cost for 50 gallons of that garlic sludge.
 
2012-08-07 04:07:53 PM

kronicfeld: Oh, and several years ago all the pizza places around me tacked on a $1.00 - $2.00 per order "delivery fee" purportedly to compensate for the increase in the cost of gas, when there was no chance that the increased cost of gas for a single delivery came anywhere close to that amount - much less the multiple deliveries made on each outing by a delivery driver. And, I noticed, that delivery fee didn't gone anywhere when the price of gas decreased. Curious, that.


If you can't afford to tip...
 
2012-08-07 04:08:49 PM
Papa John's = Derptard
Dominoes = founded by a prolife fundie nutjob
Godfather's = formerly run by Derptard
Pizza Hut = I don't know but they are the worst out of all the chains out there.

Make's me glad out of all the Pizza chains I could have worked for in college I wound up at Little Caesar's. Mr. Illitch by all reports is a nice guy, the family seems to be liberal but for the most part avoids talking about politics and he owns the Red Wings (my favorite team) and is trying to spend enough this year to get the Tigers into another World Series.
 
2012-08-07 04:10:03 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: If you can't afford to tip...


Move to Japan?
 
2012-08-07 04:10:55 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: kronicfeld: Oh, and several years ago all the pizza places around me tacked on a $1.00 - $2.00 per order "delivery fee" purportedly to compensate for the increase in the cost of gas, when there was no chance that the increased cost of gas for a single delivery came anywhere close to that amount - much less the multiple deliveries made on each outing by a delivery driver. And, I noticed, that delivery fee didn't gone anywhere when the price of gas decreased. Curious, that.

If you can't afford to tip...


They prominently point out that the delivery fee is not in any way intended to be a replacement for a tip, and that we are expected to pay their drivers for them.
 
2012-08-07 04:11:57 PM
Make your own pizza. Seriously, I'm lazy as hell and even I can whip together a decent pizza in no time flat.
 
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