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(The Atlantic)   Three charts that PROVE Obama will be crushed in the election. Book it, done   (theatlantic.com) divider line 201
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2012-08-07 02:05:41 PM
sas-origin.onstreammedia.com

And Romney gets to stand on a stage and tell America that not only should we do exactly what Bush did, we should go even bigger and favor the rich even more. Yeah. Obama is totally doomed.
 
2012-08-07 02:08:06 PM
BUT I GOT A CRYSTAL BALL!

/is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho?
 
2012-08-07 02:08:16 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [sas-origin.onstreammedia.com image 577x366]

And Romney gets to stand on a stage and tell America that not only should we do exactly what Bush did, we should go even bigger and favor the rich even more. Yeah. Obama is totally doomed.


The scary thing about that graph is that, in 2009, some people thought the state of the economy was Obama's fault.
 
2012-08-07 02:14:51 PM
Never underestimate the absolute ignorance of a UAW zombie at the voting booth.
 
2012-08-07 02:17:46 PM

TheHopeDiamond: Never underestimate the absolute ignorance of a UAW zombie at the voting booth.


that is the Hope Diamond of derp!
 
2012-08-07 02:17:59 PM
Gotta wonder why he's constantly beating Romney in virtually every poll in every swing state.
 
2012-08-07 02:20:16 PM
i194.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-07 02:20:43 PM

Aarontology: Gotta wonder why he's constantly beating Romney in virtually every poll in every swing state.


Didn't you see that article yesterday? THOSE ARE NOT THE REAL NUMBERS!

/Dick Morris knows the REAL numbers
//just ask him, he'll tell you
 
2012-08-07 02:21:30 PM
What I got from the last part of TFA was "bubububut Bush!"

And have we *really* only added 100k jobs under Obama? Is that from Jan 2009 up until now? Or from the nadir?
 
2012-08-07 02:21:39 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Aarontology: Gotta wonder why he's constantly beating Romney in virtually every poll in every swing state.

Didn't you see that article yesterday? THOSE ARE NOT THE REAL NUMBERS!

/Dick Morris knows the REAL numbers
//just ask him, he'll tell you


I'm not looking into Dick Morris' ass. Nice try!
 
2012-08-07 02:22:08 PM
Stop blaming Obama for weak jobs. It is not one thing he can really do something about.
 
2012-08-07 02:23:08 PM

cman: Stop blaming Obama for weak jobs. It is not something he can really do something about.


how did autocorrect own my ass that much?
 
2012-08-07 02:23:16 PM

xanadian: And have we *really* only added 100k jobs under Obama? Is that from Jan 2009 up until now? Or from the nadir?


The nadir. The jobs report for last month added about 160K or so.
 
2012-08-07 02:23:16 PM
I think you're forgetting he's running against Romney.
 
2012-08-07 02:23:42 PM

Lor M. Ipsum: Dusk-You-n-Me: [sas-origin.onstreammedia.com image 577x366]

And Romney gets to stand on a stage and tell America that not only should we do exactly what Bush did, we should go even bigger and favor the rich even more. Yeah. Obama is totally doomed.

The scary thing about that graph is that, in 2009, some people thought the state of the economy was Obama's fault.


As of January 20, 2009, it's all Obama's fault.
 
2012-08-07 02:23:49 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [sas-origin.onstreammedia.com image 577x366]

And Romney gets to stand on a stage and tell America that not only should we do exactly what Bush did, we should go even bigger and favor the rich even more. Yeah. Obama is totally doomed.


Granted, Obama is "leading" in a lot of the polls, but, considering all this, you'd think he'd be TROUNCING R'Money in the polls. And then there's the issue of what "likely voters" will do come November.
 
2012-08-07 02:24:43 PM

Aarontology: xanadian: And have we *really* only added 100k jobs under Obama? Is that from Jan 2009 up until now? Or from the nadir?

The nadir. The jobs report for last month added about 160K or so.


So the data in TFA was bullshiat.
 
2012-08-07 02:25:00 PM

downstairs: I think you're forgetting he's running against Romney.


Technically, I think both he and Romney are running against Romney
 
2012-08-07 02:25:37 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [sas-origin.onstreammedia.com image 577x366]

And Romney gets to stand on a stage and tell America that not only should we do exactly what Bush did, we should go even bigger and favor the rich even more. Yeah. Obama is totally doomed.


Remarkably stable.
 
2012-08-07 02:26:47 PM

xanadian: So the data in TFA was bullshiat.


Depends on how the numbers are interpreted, honestly. Say we lost 5 million from when he assumed office and the immediate few months after. As of today there are 5.1 million jobs. Do you say he created 5.1 million, or "only" 100,000 because it's only 100,000 above what it was when he took office?
 
2012-08-07 02:29:02 PM

TheHopeDiamond: Never underestimate the absolute ignorance of a UAW zombie at the voting booth.


what percentage of voters are in unions in 2012. just curious. because you guys need to update your bogey men. "moslems." commies. unionists. this isn't the 1930s, you know.
 
2012-08-07 02:29:21 PM

xanadian: Granted, Obama is "leading" in a lot of the polls, but, considering all this, you'd think he'd be TROUNCING R'Money in the polls. And then there's the issue of what "likely voters" will do come November.


According to the 538 chart, he IS trouncing Rmoney.
 
2012-08-07 02:31:08 PM

xanadian: Granted, Obama is "leading" in a lot of the polls, but, considering all this, you'd think he'd be TROUNCING R'Money in the polls.


I wouldn't think that, because the debates haven't happened yet. But they will, and Obama will.
 
2012-08-07 02:31:11 PM

sweetmelissa31: [i194.photobucket.com image 550x450]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-07 02:34:37 PM
cameroncrazy1984

xanadian: Granted, Obama is "leading" in a lot of the polls, but, considering all this, you'd think he'd be TROUNCING R'Money in the polls. And then there's the issue of what "likely voters" will do come November.

According to the 538 chart, he IS trouncing Rmoney.


Only pollster worth his salt. He'll even show you the math, and often does.
 
2012-08-07 02:37:27 PM

cameroncrazy1984: xanadian: Granted, Obama is "leading" in a lot of the polls, but, considering all this, you'd think he'd be TROUNCING R'Money in the polls. And then there's the issue of what "likely voters" will do come November.

According to the 538 chart, he IS trouncing Rmoney.


So, nationally, Obama barely leads, but state-by-state, Obama leads by a lot where it counts.
 
2012-08-07 02:41:17 PM
I'd like to see the chart that shows the correlation of derp to the losing candidate. That's probably the true predictor in this cycle.
 
2012-08-07 02:42:03 PM
Two conservative charts from a conservative think-tank predicts big conservative win for conservatives. Conservative.
 
2012-08-07 02:43:55 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: BUT I GOT A CRYSTAL BALL!

/is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho?


What kind of guru are you anyway?

/+funny
 
2012-08-07 02:47:35 PM
i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-07 02:47:58 PM

downstairs: I think you're forgetting he's running against Romney.


And this is why the GOP fail.
 
2012-08-07 02:49:31 PM

xanadian: So, nationally, Obama barely leads, but state-by-state, Obama leads by a lot where it counts.


Right. The joys of the electoral college.
 
2012-08-07 02:53:34 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: xanadian: So, nationally, Obama barely leads, but state-by-state, Obama leads by a lot where it counts.

Right. The joys of the electoral college.


Still a bit uncomfortable...538 predicts he might lose a couple states he had in 2008. Guess that still makes it doable.

Yeah, Imma wait until the debates to see what happens.
 
2012-08-07 02:53:48 PM

doyner: I'd like to see the chart that shows the correlation of derp to the losing candidate. That's probably the true predictor in this cycle.


Here you go:

i47.tinypic.com

One of the very funniest segments they've ever done.
 
2012-08-07 02:54:40 PM

Aarontology: xanadian: So the data in TFA was bullshiat.

Depends on how the numbers are interpreted, honestly. Say we lost 5 million from when he assumed office and the immediate few months after. As of today there are 5.1 million jobs. Do you say he created 5.1 million, or "only" 100,000 because it's only 100,000 above what it was when he took office?


I'm assuming that's the numbers. We lost, what, 700k in January 09?
 
2012-08-07 02:55:52 PM

TheHopeDiamond: Never underestimate the absolute ignorance of a UAW zombie at the voting booth.


Yeah those ignorant "zombies" might actually vote for the guy who took swift and decisive action to ensure they still have a job over the guy that ran editorials demanding that the goverment let your employer "Die"

the nerve of those uniformed hicks
 
2012-08-07 02:58:00 PM
this thread needs some herpa derpa doo hitler index.
 
2012-08-07 02:58:21 PM

GAT_00: I'm assuming that's the numbers. We lost, what, 700k in January 09?


At a minimum. The economy was hemorrhaging jobs like f*cking crazy for a while there.

xanadian: Still a bit uncomfortable...538 predicts he might lose a couple states he had in 2008. Guess that still makes it doable.


States like Indiana that were kind of a fluke to begin with. North Carolina is one as well. Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.
 
2012-08-07 03:01:41 PM

Aarontology: Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.


Coincidentally, NC poll out today.

Obama vs Romney: 49-46
Obama approve/disapprove: 48-49
Romney fav/unfav: 42-50

Link
 
2012-08-07 03:02:42 PM

Aarontology: xanadian: Still a bit uncomfortable...538 predicts he might lose a couple states he had in 2008. Guess that still makes it doable.

States like Indiana that were kind of a fluke to begin with. North Carolina is one as well. Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.


It might have been here on Fark, but I think I read an article that summarized Romney's chances as "drawing to an inside straight." Obama has a lot more states he can mix & match; Romney has a much narrower path.
 
2012-08-07 03:04:19 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Aarontology: Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.

Coincidentally, NC poll out today.

Obama vs Romney: 49-46
Obama approve/disapprove: 48-49
Romney fav/unfav: 42-50

Link


PPP polls are usually quite favorable for Obama, so I wouldnt put too much stick into it.
 
2012-08-07 03:04:22 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Romney fav/unfav: 42-50


Oof. That's gotta hurt.
 
2012-08-07 03:04:47 PM

Aarontology: GAT_00: I'm assuming that's the numbers. We lost, what, 700k in January 09?

At a minimum. The economy was hemorrhaging jobs like f*cking crazy for a while there.

xanadian: Still a bit uncomfortable...538 predicts he might lose a couple states he had in 2008. Guess that still makes it doable.

States like Indiana that were kind of a fluke to begin with. North Carolina is one as well. Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.


And given we've been gaining only 200k a month at best, I'd believe that if you took straight numbers from January 09 to today, we have a gain of only 100k. I don't know if it's true, but the math feels possible.
 
2012-08-07 03:06:21 PM

DamnYankees: Dusk-You-n-Me: Aarontology: Nobody really expected them to go for Obama again.

Coincidentally, NC poll out today.

Obama vs Romney: 49-46
Obama approve/disapprove: 48-49
Romney fav/unfav: 42-50

Link

PPP polls are usually quite favorable for Obama, so I wouldnt put too much stick into it.


It at least puts it within the MOE for Obama, which is surprising. If NC is possible, he's in good shape. There's no way Obama wins NC and loses the country.
 
2012-08-07 03:07:37 PM

GAT_00: It at least puts it within the MOE for Obama, which is surprising. If NC is possible, he's in good shape. There's no way Obama wins NC and loses the country.


Obama has been within the margin in NC in basically every poll, other than Rasmussen. It's always been in contention.
 
2012-08-07 03:08:03 PM
Obama gets crushed, eh?

Care to put your money where your mouth is, Submitter?
 
2012-08-07 03:08:39 PM
But you forgot about the silent majority who will most certainly (this time for sure) step up and take back our country.
 
2012-08-07 03:09:41 PM

Magorn: TheHopeDiamond: Never underestimate the absolute ignorance of a UAW zombie at the voting booth.

Yeah those ignorant "zombies" might actually vote for the guy who took swift and decisive action to ensure they still have a job over the guy that ran editorials demanding that the goverment let your employer "Die"

the nerve of those uniformed hicks


There was a piece on NPR in which they interviewed a woman from Ohio whose parents are both employed by Jeep.

She says it was her town that saved the auto industry, not Obama.
 
2012-08-07 03:10:21 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: this thread needs some herpa derpa doo hitler index.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-07 03:12:14 PM

DamnYankees: PPP polls are usually quite favorable for Obama, so I wouldnt put too much stick into it.


If they lean, it's left. I don't disagree. But at the very least they've been consistent.

We have polled Obama/Romney 22 months in a row in NC and they've been within 3 pts 21 times out of 22: publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/o...

- PublicPolicyPolling (@ppppolls) August 7, 2012
 
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