I_C_Weener: sprawl15: I_C_Weener: On the other side, the Church just put up crosses on their property. Not sure if there hadn't been the other history of vandalism etc... it would mean anything. They don't come out and say, "And we'd burn them on their lawn if this were a more civilized time like 1862." They say, "To show them what Christianity means to us." Which is apparently that 13 crosses means something....something important...but what?

To be fair, burning crosses don't really mean anything either. They're just wood that's on fire, plus Jesus. What's next, are people going to say that the burning bush was racist? Silly libs with their 'symbolism' and 'laws against public masturbation'.

I don't get the 13 crosses significance. Is there something about it in the bible? In precedence against people? Why not 12? Or 14?

Jesus and the twelve disciples, conveniently leaving out Mary Magdelene, of course, she was icky and had cooties, unlike Judas, who betrayed Jesus, but at least he had a penis.

thenewmissus: So I asked them what the problem was and all I could get was, "They're just different."

But don't accuse them of xenophobia! (but mostly because the word is big and they don't know what it means)

Should have dug pits for stoning women folk, would have made friends faster that a way

sprawl15: I_C_Weener: I don't get the 13 crosses significance. Is there something about it in the bible? In precedence against people? Why not 12? Or 14?

In ancient cultures, the number 13 represented femininity, because it corresponded to the number of lunar (menstrual) cycles in a year (13 x 28 = 364 days). As the solar calendar triumphed over the lunar, the number thirteen became anathema.

Soooo, they are saying that their feelings for their faith is like women menstruating on Muslims? Man, religion is hard.

cameroncrazy1984: It's a powerful message of "Hey, remember us? We're the church next door to your mosque! Bet you didn't notice this before!"

Bet the inter-church softball games get a little chippy.

iaazathot: Jesus and the twelve disciples, conveniently leaving out Mary Magdelene, of course, she was icky and had cooties, unlike Judas, who betrayed Jesus, but at least he had a penis.

Well, Irenaeus purged all the gnostic Bibles like the Gospels of Judas and the Gospels according to Mary Magdelena.

The money wasted on building those crosses could've been spent on feeding and clothing the poor, as Jesus Christ would have done.

iaazathot: I_C_Weener: sprawl15: I_C_Weener: On the other side, the Church just put up crosses on their property. Not sure if there hadn't been the other history of vandalism etc... it would mean anything. They don't come out and say, "And we'd burn them on their lawn if this were a more civilized time like 1862." They say, "To show them what Christianity means to us." Which is apparently that 13 crosses means something....something important...but what?

To be fair, burning crosses don't really mean anything either. They're just wood that's on fire, plus Jesus. What's next, are people going to say that the burning bush was racist? Silly libs with their 'symbolism' and 'laws against public masturbation'.

I don't get the 13 crosses significance. Is there something about it in the bible? In precedence against people? Why not 12? Or 14?

Jesus and the twelve disciples, conveniently leaving out Mary Magdelene, of course, she was icky and had cooties, unlike Judas, who betrayed Jesus, but at least he had a penis.

Except they say that 3 of them represent the Trinity. So what does 10 represent?

unexplained bacon: did the muslins just out-jesus these baptists? I thinks they did.
if only these hateful hillbilly baptists hiding behind jesus could feel shame.

Lol... Didn't even catch the typo I made.

Yep, the Muslims seem to actually be following the tenants of their religion, while the "Christians" are acting like hateful bigots.

lj1330: Yep, the message is quite clear. "I will not accept you regardless of any affiliation you have to my community." "you can not count on me." "I will only accept those who are deemed worthwhile to me, and if it also furthers my agenda."

I think that's from the Gospel of Xenophobe...

RexTalionis: iaazathot: Jesus and the twelve disciples, conveniently leaving out Mary Magdelene, of course, she was icky and had cooties, unlike Judas, who betrayed Jesus, but at least he had a penis.

Well, Irenaeus purged all the gnostic Bibles like the Gospels of Judas and the Gospels according to Mary Magdelena.

Pfffffft, what nonsense...

"It was more or less to make a statement to the Muslims about how we felt about our religion, our Christianity," said Mack Richards, a Middle Tennessee Baptist Church member who built the crosses at the request of Grace Baptist member and friend Bobby Francis. "We wanted them to see the crosses and know how we felt about things."

Apparently you felt like being a bigoted asshole. Yay, you.

I_C_Weener: iaazathot: I_C_Weener: sprawl15: I_C_Weener: On the other side, the Church just put up crosses on their property. Not sure if there hadn't been the other history of vandalism etc... it would mean anything. They don't come out and say, "And we'd burn them on their lawn if this were a more civilized time like 1862." They say, "To show them what Christianity means to us." Which is apparently that 13 crosses means something....something important...but what?

To be fair, burning crosses don't really mean anything either. They're just wood that's on fire, plus Jesus. What's next, are people going to say that the burning bush was racist? Silly libs with their 'symbolism' and 'laws against public masturbation'.

I don't get the 13 crosses significance. Is there something about it in the bible? In precedence against people? Why not 12? Or 14?

Jesus and the twelve disciples, conveniently leaving out Mary Magdelene, of course, she was icky and had cooties, unlike Judas, who betrayed Jesus, but at least he had a penis.

Except they say that 3 of them represent the Trinity. So what does 10 represent?

Bigotry.

Mikey1969: RexTalionis: I_C_Weener: Which is apparently that 13 crosses means something....something important...but what?

12 Apostles and Jesus - the thirteen at the table at the Last Supper.

Except that their math falls, since they say 3 of the crosses represent the trinity, they used up 2 of the 13 doing God and the Holy Ghost, so which Disciples got the shaft?

Bet these farkheads didn't have anyone with the brains to point this out in their entire congregation. If it was Jesus, the 12 Disciples and the rest of the trinity, it should have been 15 crosses. That's Mississippi Math® for you...

Religious math doesn't have to make sense (although, in some other religions, it does - lookin' at you, Vedas). In any case, Nothing says that 3 of those crosses couldn't represent an Apostle (or Jesus) and the Trinity. Abrahamic religions is rife with double meanings in some places, ain't it?

RexTalionis: Religious math doesn't have to make sense (although, in some other religions, it does - lookin' at you, Vedas). In any case, Nothing says that 3 of those crosses couldn't represent an Apostle (or Jesus) and the Trinity. Abrahamic religions is rife with double meanings in some places, ain't it?

Oh, wait, Vedic mathematics wasn't in the Vedas, never mind.

Stopheles: Pretty sure Muslims accept that Jesus died on the cross - it's the whole "resurrected from the dead and now serves as the only path to God's good side" bit that they don't buy.

Well, now they can be reminded of it...thriceteen times. Awfully neighborly of the Baptists, dontcha think?

Mikey1969: So who are the two Disciples who were hip enough to get to literally 'hang' with God and the Holy Ghost, and was there a raffle or did Jesus choose them? If it was Jesus, are these the only people in all of human history that learned the secret?

I dunno. Probably Simon Peter and John.

unexplained bacon:why would you hang around to listen to anything else that moran has to say. get out man.

It's the families church, we've been going there since forever. Most of the people aren't that bad - he's just young and stupid - particularlly in the area of science or history. He was a baseball jock that transitioned into the seminary after blowing out a knee.

About once a month he is hilarously entertaining. In one sermon he someone branched off into mentioning how he stands in the boat when trying to reel in a big one: "I'm standing there like I'm about to drop a deuce ...." - complete with actually standing like that next to the podium. One other time he got a little competetive at a church league softball game and ended up getting thrown out by the umpire.