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2012-08-07 08:22:27 PM
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Gyrfalcon: For these folks, the conspiracy HAS TO BE TRUE, and nothing can undermine that faith. Kind of like any religion, really. It's not so much they WANT to believe, they HAVE TO believe, because if they didn't, they'd have nothing.


Sorry, but that's a bunch of hooey. I'm not saying 9/11 truthers are undoubtedly right, but I'm not saying they're undoubtedly wrong either. I'm saying I don't know. The official story of 9/11 is also a "conspiracy theory" about a bunch of guys armed only with boxcutters, incredible flying skills and magical passports that survive crashes and flutter to the ground intact. Questioning authority and official narratives is the sign of an open mind, not a closed one. An open mind is comfortable with admitting that the world is awash in far fewer "facts" than "trusted" media sources would have you believe.
2012-08-07 03:43:05 PM
2 votes:

urban.derelict: whitey_d: Wow for goofs I clicked on the prison planet link and the comments are just gold:


I just... really? Look I'll give you that the government isn't always looking out for everyone's best interests all the time and the two party system does suck, but 9/11 as an inside job is just ridiculous. For all of the truther arguments there's plenty of actual evidence to debunk it

6 Debunked 9/11 Conspiracy Claims From NIST's New WTC 7 Report

The biggest problem I have with conspiracies like this is you would need everyone to keep their mouth's shut before and after. And given human nature that's just not happening.
2012-08-08 05:50:33 PM
1 votes:

Jogey: You were probably also considered stupid and crazy to think that something like Penn State's incidence could happen, or even the Catholic church's for that matter.


In those cover-ups, people came forward to expose the cover-up. Just like every other cover-up.

Meanwhile, truthers believe in a cover-up spanning the entire planet in perfect secrecy without a single person ever raising a peep.

People don't consider truthers stupid because they believe in cover-ups or conspiracies, which can happen; they consider truthers stupid because they believe in ridiculous cover-ups and ridiculous conspiracies, that violate the laws of physics and make no logistical sense.
2012-08-07 10:05:25 PM
1 votes:

Triumph: Gyrfalcon: For these folks, the conspiracy HAS TO BE TRUE, and nothing can undermine that faith. Kind of like any religion, really. It's not so much they WANT to believe, they HAVE TO believe, because if they didn't, they'd have nothing.

Sorry, but that's a bunch of hooey. I'm not saying 9/11 truthers are undoubtedly right, but I'm not saying they're undoubtedly wrong either. I'm saying I don't know. The official story of 9/11 is also a "conspiracy theory" about a bunch of guys armed only with boxcutters, incredible flying skills and magical passports that survive crashes and flutter to the ground intact. Questioning authority and official narratives is the sign of an open mind, not a closed one. An open mind is comfortable with admitting that the world is awash in far fewer "facts" than "trusted" media sources would have you believe.


Aaaannnd, you just proved my entire thesis. Everything you state can and has been explained, and yet you CANNOT accept it because it would challenge your narrative. None of the passports were recovered, except by wingnut websites in the days after the attack, and they've since been debunked. But that just means "OMG, they got to THEM TOO?!??!?"

I guess you find it part of the conspiracy, and equally inexplicable except by dark forces at work, to know that the bodies of the Columbia astronauts were recovered after its fiery reentry? I suppose they DIDN'T REALLY CRASH, based on your concept of how physics works?
2012-08-07 07:18:35 PM
1 votes:

Xcott: SquiggsIN: whitey_d: The biggest problem I have with conspiracies like this is you would need everyone to keep their mouth's shut before and after. And given human nature that's just not happening.

The threat of you and your entire family disappearing is frequently enough to keep people silent.

"Frequently" is not enough. If they "frequently" kept people silent, the conspiracy would have been exposed by infrequent leaks.

You'd need to keep everyone uniformly silent to keep the word from getting out, in a conspiracy that spans the government, military, and news media. And they don't just mean a few higher-ups in the military: the theory is that the military enacted a nationwide "stand-down" the day of the attacks---meaning that servicemen and women all over the country were given orders, with nobody coming forward to report having received these orders.

Furthermore, the conspiracy is supposedly obvious to bloggy laypeople because blah blah physics blah blah freefall speed blah blah cell phones on planes blah blah fuel fires---and therefore it must also be obvious to scientists and engineers and university faculty all over the world. The conspiracy is therefore able to silence all of these people too, to a man. You're now talking about threats made to millions of people, in pretty much every country, and it has always worked.

(This has worked for fascists governments for thousands of years....)

No, it has not. No fascist government has ever launched an operation like this, and then perfectly covered it up through intimidation.


The main thing that keeps conspiracy theories going is the fact that any proof of such a conspiracy NOT existing is seen as more evidence that it does in fact exist. We mock it around here as "My god, they got to him too!" but in fact these conspiracy freaks see such proof as being evidence of an ever greater coverup. So when engineers and structural architects came forward to show the 9/11 collapses were perfectly explicable as what should have happened...out came a book called "Debunking the 9/11 Debunkers." For these folks, the conspiracy HAS TO BE TRUE, and nothing can undermine that faith. Kind of like any religion, really. It's not so much they WANT to believe, they HAVE TO believe, because if they didn't, they'd have nothing.
2012-08-07 04:32:38 PM
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: whitey_d: The biggest problem I have with conspiracies like this is you would need everyone to keep their mouth's shut before and after. And given human nature that's just not happening.

The threat of you and your entire family disappearing is frequently enough to keep people silent.


"Frequently" is not enough. If they "frequently" kept people silent, the conspiracy would have been exposed by infrequent leaks.

You'd need to keep everyone uniformly silent to keep the word from getting out, in a conspiracy that spans the government, military, and news media. And they don't just mean a few higher-ups in the military: the theory is that the military enacted a nationwide "stand-down" the day of the attacks---meaning that servicemen and women all over the country were given orders, with nobody coming forward to report having received these orders.

Furthermore, the conspiracy is supposedly obvious to bloggy laypeople because blah blah physics blah blah freefall speed blah blah cell phones on planes blah blah fuel fires---and therefore it must also be obvious to scientists and engineers and university faculty all over the world. The conspiracy is therefore able to silence all of these people too, to a man. You're now talking about threats made to millions of people, in pretty much every country, and it has always worked.

(This has worked for fascists governments for thousands of years....)

No, it has not. No fascist government has ever launched an operation like this, and then perfectly covered it up through intimidation.
2012-08-07 03:48:45 PM
1 votes:

whitey_d: urban.derelict: whitey_d: Wow for goofs I clicked on the prison planet link and the comments are just gold:

I just... really? Look I'll give you that the government isn't always looking out for everyone's best interests all the time and the two party system does suck, but 9/11 as an inside job is just ridiculous. For all of the truther arguments there's plenty of actual evidence to debunk it

6 Debunked 9/11 Conspiracy Claims From NIST's New WTC 7 Report

The biggest problem I have with conspiracies like this is you would need everyone to keep their mouth's shut before and after. And given human nature that's just not happening.


That's true of most conspiracies--and why actual conspiracies get exposed so fast. The old Sicilian phrase "Two can keep a secret only if one of them is dead" applies no matter how many people are in the conspiracy.

One thing that always cracked me up about "X-Files" was the number of people the Smoking Man used in his cover-ups--whole platoons of soldiers in black fatigues to secure sites--and yet NOBODY could come up with any solid proof or evidence of the UFO conspiracy.
2012-08-07 03:47:09 PM
1 votes:
I'd rather my Olympic conspiracy theories were dreamed up by Robert Anton Wilson, they'd be better-written and at least they'd give me a laugh.
2012-08-07 03:33:03 PM
1 votes:

Xcott: I lol'd at the guy who used the Steve Jackson Illuminati card game as evidence of an Illuminati conspiracy.

I guess it's Steve Jackson for the win. They make a card game lampooning nutcases, and the nutcases go buy it because they think it's like a false-flag Tarot deck designed to warn them of impending conspiracies.


In their defense, I don't know anyone who played that game very much. It was pretty clunky but the cards were fun to look at.
2012-08-07 03:14:41 PM
1 votes:

whitey_d: Wow for goofs I clicked on the prison planet link and the comments are just gold:


Alex Jones is a nutter who makes money obfuscating issues, selling warez on 4 different duplicate 'news' sites containing phony information. He is not to be trusted because I -- personally -- saw one of his stories years -- about a decade -- ago, "Tim McVeigh received explosives training after he left the military" ... with video... of a guy who looked NOTHING like Tim McVeigh. (But anyone who didn't know what McVeigh looked like -- would have no reason to dismiss the story.)

9/11 was a false flag, and there's no way I could include all the info here so I'll just share this link:

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns.html

Just remember this is the same gov that produced MK Ultra. The US gov has no qualms killing its own citizens if it helps them achieve their intended goal. Most people think "our own government would never do something like that," ... wrong. ("If you ever need a guinea pig, let me know; my grandfather was in the Tuskeegee experiments...")

Obama's a puppet. He has a wife and two daughters I'm sure he loves more than anything... ensuring he will... do what he's told.

Two-party system is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dichotomy to fool citizens into thinking they have freedom... to choose between two -- and only two -- political parties.

/keep blaming brown people with box cutters
//and keep f*cking that chicken!
///shut up and read before you expose yourself as a blathering idiot
//Dubya deserves an oscar for his portrayal of 'texas idiot;' he knew exactly what he was doing and had the demeanor to pull it off
/you're all slaves to the Federal Reserve; Olympics are yet another scam to get idiots to buy useless memorabilia
.what's the federal deficit up to today? That's how much the US owes a private bank which prints money below face value, loans it to the US gov to use -- at interest
..haters gon' hate, derpers gon' derp
lh6.googleusercontent.com


/boy that 'christmas underwear bomber' acted just in time to prevent provisions of The 'Patriot' Act from expiring new year's eve at midnight... well-dressed man in Amsterdam who sweet-talked flight attendant into letting impressionable refugee onto international flight without passport disappeared without a trace...
//what a shame that most people won't -- or can't -- look beyond the obvious
2012-08-07 03:12:39 PM
1 votes:
It just occurred to me that the Vatican has no Olympic team. They do have a national soccer team, however.
2012-08-07 03:05:14 PM
1 votes:

Kit Fister: easily avoided through behavioral analysis, situational awareness, and generally not putting yourself in places that look hinky


Stop blaming the victim.
2012-08-07 02:50:19 PM
1 votes:

ChipNASA: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Olympics COMIC SANS font was designed at a Bohemian Grove retreat in order to boost sales of migraine medication.
/ftfy


Comic Sans isn't necessarily a bad font when used correctly, but it hardly ever is used correctly.
2012-08-07 02:50:10 PM
1 votes:
Did anyone reference the stonecutters?

/why else would The Simpsons still be on after 25 years?
2012-08-07 02:45:49 PM
1 votes:
visit a conspiracy site like abovetopsecretdotcom and take note of the many very popular kook subjects. go back 5 years from now you'll see the same exact topics of stupidity. ignorance is bliss but some people have 3rd degree burn blisters.
2012-08-07 02:44:47 PM
1 votes:
Oh my god. You know what? The next one of you farkers that says "Oh, but humanity has evolved past the paranoia and violence, thus there is no need for guns anymore...", I'm pointing right back to this, the freepers, and every other left-wing and right-wing nutjob collection.

It comes down to this: it's not the average criminal that I fear, most of those guys are stupid and easily avoided through behavioral analysis, situational awareness, and generally not putting yourself in places that look hinky (ultra-trashed neighborhood with gang signs painted on everything at 2 AM? probably not where the Jonses are having their graduation party...and did I mention it was in downtown Detroit?); It's these lunatic wingnuts that just scare the shiat out of me because they walk into some crowded area all normal-like, hear/see something, and know that THIS is the day/time/place where SATAN will return to earth and the "Demons" in that place must be cleansed. Because the Illuminati told him so.

I for one want to be able to kill myself on my own terms quickly rather than have some nutjob cut my heart out and make me eat it before I die...
2012-08-07 02:35:39 PM
1 votes:
www.celebitchy.com
2012-08-07 12:59:20 PM
1 votes:
Dan Brown doesn't have an original thought in his body ...
2012-08-07 12:50:02 PM
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure the rest of the Illuminati would have let me know if we were having a Satanic occult ritual.
 
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