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2012-08-07 12:01:42 PM
ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??
 
2012-08-07 12:25:16 PM
thank you subby
thank you

I larfed
 
2012-08-07 12:28:02 PM
Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing? LOL

That being said, STFU and release your tax records already rmoney!!! You have nothing to gain by keeping them secret at this point and you just look like you are hiding something hideous.

unless of course you paid zero taxes.

BWEAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
2012-08-07 01:11:14 PM
YOU LIE!

/he wasn't lying.
 
2012-08-07 01:12:29 PM
What's worse, Harry Reid's in possession of Romney's tax information from over the past 10 years, leaving him unable to restore his good name by showing them!!!

Oh, I'm sorry. No, he doesn't at all. Mitt can make this all go away by simply telling the truth.


Any day now, Willard...
 
2012-08-07 01:13:19 PM
I rate this article two Aladdins and a Space Ghost.

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2012-08-07 01:13:57 PM

xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??


Doesn't matter. It's now part of the national consciousness. Reid and the democrats won, and no amount of debunking will ever reverse that.
 
2012-08-07 01:15:38 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: YOU LIE!

/he wasn't lying.


Well, we won't know whether he was lying until we see the damn tax returns. To say outright that he's lying is just stupid.
 
2012-08-07 01:15:56 PM

xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??


You're assuming his objective was factual accuracy and not to simply to re-inject the tax return issue into the national discourse.
 
2012-08-07 01:16:34 PM
If only there was some way for Romney to put this whole story to rest...
 
2012-08-07 01:17:40 PM
I guess we will never know!
 
2012-08-07 01:18:27 PM
The GOP apparently doesn't like that Dems are starting to take pages from their playbook. Sorry, assholes, you made this bed...
 
2012-08-07 01:19:18 PM
Let's do this logically:

1) If a Bain advisor is gonna throw Romney under the bus over taxes, he isn't going to do it non-chalantly when it's the biggest issue in politics today.
2) Meaning, why say it to Reid? Why not Huffington Post or TPM? I mean, I suppose Reid could be buddies with the guy, but I am sure someone could have figured out that connection already if he was.
3) So this means that Harry Reid MIGHT be lying, trying (poorly) to call Romney's (supposed) bluff that there is nothing bad in the tax returns.
4) But Romney is not budging, despite ALL the Republicans saying that he should do it. If there was something bad, everyone would tell him to release the returns now and hope it gets lost in the media after about 3 weeks. But Romney isn't, despite Ed Rollins (celebrated GOP campaigner) and tons of others telling him to release it now.
5) Because Romney is teasing us. Because there is nothing. Because despite how bad his campaign has been thus far, he learned a VERY valuable lesson from Obama: the longer you let your opposition beat the drum of "corruption", "impropriety" and "illegality" regarding your past... and they eventually turn out to be wrong... they look like COMPLETE asses.
6) The flip side is that Obama DID release his birth certificate before, and the long form crap was just tedious repetition. So, this isn't a direct analogy. And if #5 does actually play out, Romney looks a little bit like an asshole for teasing everyone and controlling this tax return nonsense for so long and then you can just beat him with "so, you admit you were stalling until you actually came up with a policy strategy?"
 
2012-08-07 01:19:31 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: The GOP apparently doesn't like that Dems are starting to take pages from their playbook. Sorry, assholes, you made this bed...


Honestly, the whining that comes out of them is hilarious. This coming from the party that made Willy Horton and Swift Boating.
 
2012-08-07 01:19:32 PM

Lost Thought 00: xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??

Doesn't matter. It's now part of the national consciousness. Reid and the democrats won, and no amount of debunking will ever reverse that.


Not to mention, Kessler's "reasonable person standard" for fact-checking isn't fact-checking at all. He said it himself - without Romney's taxes we can't judge the truth of Reid's claim - except for the omission of the word "income" before "tax", which is just political grammar-nazi nit-picking at this point.
 
2012-08-07 01:19:37 PM
Glenn Kessler - still providing the lube for the GOP's chicken farking.

If Romney wanted to prove Reid a liar, he could very easily. But he won't. Because apparently whatever is in those tax returns must be even more damaging than the speculation of whatever is in those returns.
 
2012-08-07 01:20:16 PM

mr.Curmudgeon: If only there was some way for Romney to put this whole story to rest...


I'm pretty sure that going into interviews and/or public appearances and telling Reid to "put up or shut up" has appropriately laid this issue to rest. Good day, sir.

/I SAID "GOOD DAY, SIR!"
 
2012-08-07 01:20:23 PM

Lost Thought 00: xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??

Doesn't matter. It's now part of the national consciousness. Reid and the democrats won, and no amount of debunking will ever reverse that.


Except for releasing the tax records, of course.
 
2012-08-07 01:20:27 PM

xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.


Nope, none. He has effectively paid zero taxes, because there is no contradictory evidence to tell us otherwise. No tax returns, no taxes. Some people are saying he got refunds. The Worthers are right, if he'd just release his real long-form tax returns with all attachments we could clear up this whole mess.
 
2012-08-07 01:20:46 PM

xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.


Bottom line: when Romney comes out and insists he DID pay taxes, then the burden of proof is on him to back up that claim of action. Why is he afraid to do so? Forget about Reid. This is about Romney.
 
2012-08-07 01:20:50 PM
I can just imagine the epic butthurt and conspiracy-mongering you'd get from the right if President Obama had not released his tax returns for 10 years.
 
2012-08-07 01:21:15 PM
Reid should be impeached. As it clearly shows that asking around to various tax authorities and law professors that Romney DID pay taxes, in their opinion. Which are too high. Now that that's been put to bed, we can go back to discussing what the other 7 states are.
 
2012-08-07 01:21:51 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: If Romney wanted to prove Reid a liar, he could very easily. But he won't. Because apparently whatever is in those tax returns must be even more damaging than the speculation of whatever is in those returns.


McCain saw'em and chose Palin
 
2012-08-07 01:22:22 PM

coeyagi: And if #5 does actually play out, Romney looks a little bit like an asshole for teasing everyone and controlling this tax return nonsense for so long and then you can just beat him with "so, you admit you were stalling until you actually came up with a policy strategy?"


No, he was stalling to find somebody who could forge tax returns.
 
2012-08-07 01:22:35 PM
I give it 17 chickens and a goat.
 
2012-08-07 01:22:47 PM

coeyagi: 2) Meaning, why say it to Reid?


The Mormon connection, maybe?

Also possible it was given to someone else, and Reid (a recently re-elected high-profile Democrat with no connection to the campaign) was selected as the spokesperson
 
2012-08-07 01:22:58 PM
So wait, Dems start using the dirty tactics that were perfected by Atwater and Rove and now all of a sudden, it's worse than the farking holocaust...good show, GOP.
 
2012-08-07 01:23:12 PM
I love the Washington Post "Fact" Checker almost as much of politifact

"Harry Reid says that Mitt Romney didn't pay any Taxes for the last 10 years."

[A bunch of paragraphs with no actual facts showing that Mitt Romney paid taxes the last 10 years].

"Therefore Harry Reid is totes lying. Also some butthurt about decorum."

I agree that Reid is likely full of shiat, Romney probably paid taxes...he's just probably paid an absurdly low rate on them - which is why he's hiding it from everyone. But the WP "Fact Checker" didn't factually check shiat.

Damn liberal MSM Media.
 
2012-08-07 01:23:41 PM
One of the lines in the article from their own expert is something to the effect of "it's possible he paid 2%, that's close enough to zero for me" then immediately after that it's 'still, we choose to eschew the commentary of the expert we hand picked in the article we wrote, and give him 4 jimminy christmasses because while Harry Reid's comments were close we heard he pals around with a black guy.'

That's some fine reporting there.... it does nothing to disabuse me of the opinion that the only journalism practiced in the United States is practiced by sports journalists.
 
2012-08-07 01:24:14 PM

mr.Curmudgeon: If only there was some way for Romney to put this whole story to rest...


Why should he have to? It's a wild made up claim.

Dingey Harry has paid hookers in his office. Now prove THAT wrong!!
 
2012-08-07 01:25:05 PM

namatad: Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing? LOL

That being said, STFU and release your tax records already rmoney!!! You have nothing to gain by keeping them secret at this point and you just look like you are hiding something hideous.

unless of course you paid zero taxes.

BWEAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Romney has released what is required by LAW. He has no need/reason to release any more.
 
2012-08-07 01:25:31 PM
Reid is only lying if he is making up his claim that somebody told him that Romney paid no income taxes.

Reid is disingenuous but not lying if he is repeating a claim that he knows is false.

So far Romney's response avoids the central question. He claims that he paid taxes but doesn't say whether he paid income taxes.
 
2012-08-07 01:25:35 PM
I believe the way Republicans defended the last administration was that it's not a lie, he was merely working on incomplete information; the best possible knowledge that was available. It's not Reid's fault that perfect information wasn't available, so he can't be held accountable if his conclusions are incorrect.
 
2012-08-07 01:26:09 PM

ferretman: namatad: Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing? LOL

That being said, STFU and release your tax records already rmoney!!! You have nothing to gain by keeping them secret at this point and you just look like you are hiding something hideous.

unless of course you paid zero taxes.

BWEAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Romney has released what is required by LAW. He has no need/reason to release any more.


So how can he claim that we're "taxed enough already" when he didn't pay any income taxes between 2000-2009?
 
2012-08-07 01:26:23 PM
I have to admit, I never thought Harry Reid had the balls to do something like this. Despicable as the rumor-mongering might be, it has put Mitt in a bind. There's really nothing he can do to respond to it effectively other than release his taxes. And of course the Democrats will be happy the longer Mitt holds out, because absent of evidence, most people will assume Mitt is hiding something.

Someone should Photoshop Harry Reid's face on a copy of Machiavelli's The Prince.
 
2012-08-07 01:26:30 PM

ferretman: namatad: Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing? LOL

That being said, STFU and release your tax records already rmoney!!! You have nothing to gain by keeping them secret at this point and you just look like you are hiding something hideous.

unless of course you paid zero taxes.

BWEAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Romney has released what is required by LAW. He has no need/reason to release any more.


There's 30-40 years worth of reason, actually.
 
2012-08-07 01:26:37 PM

TIKIMAN87: mr.Curmudgeon: If only there was some way for Romney to put this whole story to rest...

Why should he have to? It's a wild made up claim.

Dingey Harry has paid hookers in his office. Now prove THAT wrong!!


As opposed to underaged boys? He's no Republican, you know.

On topic, LOL. Thanks for keeping this in the news cycle, Washington Post. I'm sure it's not hurting Romney at all for people to keep hearing about this every day.
 
2012-08-07 01:26:57 PM
And to think, Romney could make Reid look like a total liar and put this whole thing to rest if he just released his tax forms but he's too afraid of the Democrats to do so. What a wimp. This is definitely the person we want running the country.
 
2012-08-07 01:27:03 PM
Shouldn't a Vice President of the United States, Secretary of State, and National Security advisor be held to an even higher standard when making claims that will lead the US into a trillion dollar war that ends 4000+ American lives?
 
2012-08-07 01:28:46 PM
One of life's greatest hypocrisies is that congress routinely finds or threatens to find people in contempt for lying to them yet they lie to us every single day.

/not intended to be a factual statement.
 
2012-08-07 01:28:53 PM

Lost Thought 00: xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??

Doesn't matter. It's now part of the national consciousness. Reid and the democrats won, and no amount of debunking will ever reverse that.



Unless, of course, Romney provides tax records that show he paid larger %s than someone making 50K a year.
 
2012-08-07 01:29:09 PM

coeyagi: 2) Meaning, why say it to Reid? Why not Huffington Post or TPM? I mean, I suppose Reid could be buddies with the guy, but I am sure someone could have figured out that connection already if he was.


Maybe because the deep-throat is a Mormon, Reid is the highest ranking Mormon in the US, and the whistle blower is upset that Romney is hiding his income and not paying the proper 10% tithe to the Mormon church.
 
2012-08-07 01:30:08 PM

The Homer Tax: I agree that Reid is likely full of shiat, Romney probably paid taxes...he's just probably paid an absurdly low rate on them - which is why he's hiding it from everyone. But the WP "Fact Checker" didn't factually check shiat.


I would consider Reid correct if Romney paid no income or capital gains tax for those years. He obviously paid sales and property taxes. Reid said "no taxes" so I would consider even a small percentage to be a fabrication.

Of course, we will never know since we are not going to see the records.
 
2012-08-07 01:30:12 PM

namatad: Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing?


This occurred to me as well, but with his language, he appears to be insinuating dodging of taxes.

They're scraping for bottom feeder votes who wont think for themselves either way. I'd rather hear about who has the better plans for our economy, etc. than this tripe
 
2012-08-07 01:31:20 PM

TIKIMAN87: mr.Curmudgeon: If only there was some way for Romney to put this whole story to rest...

Why should he have to? It's a wild made up claim.

Dingey Harry has paid hookers in his office. Now prove THAT wrong!!


because Obama had to release his long form birth certificate, something no president in the history of the united states has ever had to do, to silence the wackadoodle conservatives (or at least try to)

fair is fair
 
2012-08-07 01:31:26 PM

The Homer Tax: I love the Washington Post "Fact" Checker almost as much of politifact

"Harry Reid says that Mitt Romney didn't pay any Taxes for the last 10 years."

[A bunch of paragraphs with no actual facts showing that Mitt Romney paid taxes the last 10 years].

"Therefore Harry Reid is totes lying. Also some butthurt about decorum."

I agree that Reid is likely full of shiat, Romney probably paid taxes...he's just probably paid an absurdly low rate on them - which is why he's hiding it from everyone. But the WP "Fact Checker" didn't factually check shiat.

Damn liberal MSM Media.


yeah he paid 1% tax thats not 0% Reid's such a liar! not sure how that improves the situation any... probably makes it worse since it shows he was hiding that...

/ hopes he takes the Angle approach and not even talk to the media and refuse all debates... because they attack him for things he said...
 
2012-08-07 01:32:22 PM

namatad: Is it possible that the caller and reid are speaking hyperbolically?
Zero taxes being equated with an absurdly low tax rate? Say 5%?

Did ANYONE think that zero taxes should be taken literally as absolutely nothing? LOL

That being said, STFU and release your tax records already rmoney!!! You have nothing to gain by keeping them secret at this point and you just look like you are hiding something hideous.

unless of course you paid zero taxes.

BWEAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Could it be possible the Senator from NV knows a thing or two about bluffing? I love how vicious the invective has been from the right on this (Reince Priebus calling read "A dirty liar" on national tv for instance) as if they truly think that by going on about what a horrible person Harry reid is, they can distract from the fact that they haven't disproven his allegations, and that there is a VERY easy way to do so, that Romney, inexlicably, hasn't done

Speak the truth and shame the devil, Mitt
 
2012-08-07 01:32:38 PM

ferretman: Romney has released what is required by LAW. He has no need/reason to release any more.


Well, no reason besides his presumed desire to get people to vote for him. I suppose he could be taking a dive.
 
2012-08-07 01:33:08 PM
Don't want to give the Derpington Post a click.

Did Krauthammer write this?
 
2012-08-07 01:33:08 PM

Lord_Baull: Lost Thought 00: xanadian: ANY taxes? Bullshiat. INCOME taxes? Maybe, but probably not.

WTF is Reid smoking??

Doesn't matter. It's now part of the national consciousness. Reid and the democrats won, and no amount of debunking will ever reverse that.


Unless, of course, Romney provides tax records that show he paid larger %s than someone making 50K a year.


If that were the case, I'd think he'd have released them already and shut down this line of attack. It would be the smart thing to do. Therefore, either Romney and his advisers are really stupid (not likely), or releasing those taxes would reveal something Romney is desperately trying to hide (much more likely). It's simple enough logic.
 
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