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(The American Prospect)   Over 50% of people under 60 admit to smoking pot and somehow survived using this incredibly dangerous and deadly drug that supposedly kills everyone that so much as looks at it   (prospect.org) divider line 88
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2012-08-07 11:49:02 AM
you mean the government propaganda is LYING TO ME!? i'm shocked!
 
2012-08-07 11:53:41 AM

Weaver95: you mean the government propaganda is LYING TO ME!? i'm shocked!


www.tokeofthetown.com
 
2012-08-07 11:54:50 AM
25.media.tumblr.com

He's a walking advertisement against criminalization.

Maybe that should be his post-swimming career: Spokesmedalist for sensible drug policy organizations.
 
2012-08-07 12:03:40 PM
I plan on smoking later today, so I'm getting a kick.
 
2012-08-07 12:05:20 PM

FishyFred: He's a walking advertisement against criminalization.

Maybe that should be his post-swimming career: Spokesmedalist for sensible drug policy organizations.


As someone else said in one of the Olympic threads: I can't believe that a professional swimmer would benefit from a drug that increases appetite, decreases boredom with repetitive tasks, dulls pain, and helps you fall asleep. It truly boggles the mind.
 
2012-08-07 12:21:32 PM

Jubeebee: As someone else said in one of the Olympic threads: I can't believe that a professional swimmer would benefit from a drug that increases appetite, decreases boredom with repetitive tasks, dulls pain, and helps you fall asleep. It truly boggles the mind.


As well as all natural, literally impossible to overdose on, non-addictive, anti-spasmodic, anti-bacterial, anti-emetic, anti-inflammatory while having few and minor side effects. He risked it all!
 
2012-08-07 12:29:20 PM
Smoking pot by itself is really not that dangerous. This is true. But dismissive hyperbole only masks the real danger. Of course pot won't kill you if you just look at it. But looking at it, subby, leads to smoking it. And smoking it is the first step on the path to self-destruction. See, when you smoke pot, you get hungry. That's a medical fact. When you get hungry, you eat. That's not a problem, generally ... unless there are marijuana-laced brownies on the premises.

See what can happen? Now, the individual in question has already consumed marijuana, introducing THC (which is non-lethal at low doses but is thought by some to be more powerful than cyanide at high concentrations) to their system. And so this hungry pot-user, his mind already addled, stumbles upon a plate of poisoned brownies and eats them. Now, the THC is concentrated in both his lungs AND his stomach, and the intra-system interplay causes an "amplification effect," similar to what happens when multiple ripples meet on the surface of a pond. Now, a sort of "feedback loop" takes place, where the victim, who was already stoned and hungry, eats -- but the eating makes him more stoned because of the marijuana in the brownies, which in turn makes him more hungry, which makes him more stoned, and on and on. If he is lucky, the pot supply will end before true disaster strikes. And I do mean disaster.

This scenario, of course, deliberately ignores the even further dangers presented by bongwater consumption. Water laced with THC is poisonous enough that some South American tribes have been known to dip their arrows in it. El pene de la serpiente de la montaña, they call it. Scary, scary stuff.

Your headline reads that just over 50 percent somehow survived. Your real question, subby, is how many of that remaining number died horrible, terrible, agonizing deaths.
 
2012-08-07 12:35:11 PM

Pocket Ninja: Smoking pot by itself is really not that dangerous. This is true. But dismissive hyperbole only masks the real danger. Of course pot won't kill you if you just look at it. But looking at it, subby, leads to smoking it. And smoking it is the first step on the path to self-destruction. See, when you smoke pot, you get hungry. That's a medical fact. When you get hungry, you eat. That's not a problem, generally ... unless there are marijuana-laced brownies on the premises.

See what can happen? Now, the individual in question has already consumed marijuana, introducing THC (which is non-lethal at low doses but is thought by some to be more powerful than cyanide at high concentrations) to their system. And so this hungry pot-user, his mind already addled, stumbles upon a plate of poisoned brownies and eats them. Now, the THC is concentrated in both his lungs AND his stomach, and the intra-system interplay causes an "amplification effect," similar to what happens when multiple ripples meet on the surface of a pond. Now, a sort of "feedback loop" takes place, where the victim, who was already stoned and hungry, eats -- but the eating makes him more stoned because of the marijuana in the brownies, which in turn makes him more hungry, which makes him more stoned, and on and on. If he is lucky, the pot supply will end before true disaster strikes. And I do mean disaster.

This scenario, of course, deliberately ignores the even further dangers presented by bongwater consumption. Water laced with THC is poisonous enough that some South American tribes have been known to dip their arrows in it. El pene de la serpiente de la montaña, they call it. Scary, scary stuff.

Your headline reads that just over 50 percent somehow survived. Your real question, subby, is how many of that remaining number died horrible, terrible, agonizing deaths.


3/10. needed more jesus. you get bonus points for outright lying about chemistry though.
 
2012-08-07 12:38:20 PM

Weaver95: Pocket Ninja: Smoking pot by itself is really not that dangerous. This is true. But dismissive hyperbole only masks the real danger. Of course pot won't kill you if you just look at it. But looking at it, subby, leads to smoking it. And smoking it is the first step on the path to self-destruction. See, when you smoke pot, you get hungry. That's a medical fact. When you get hungry, you eat. That's not a problem, generally ... unless there are marijuana-laced brownies on the premises.

See what can happen? Now, the individual in question has already consumed marijuana, introducing THC (which is non-lethal at low doses but is thought by some to be more powerful than cyanide at high concentrations) to their system. And so this hungry pot-user, his mind already addled, stumbles upon a plate of poisoned brownies and eats them. Now, the THC is concentrated in both his lungs AND his stomach, and the intra-system interplay causes an "amplification effect," similar to what happens when multiple ripples meet on the surface of a pond. Now, a sort of "feedback loop" takes place, where the victim, who was already stoned and hungry, eats -- but the eating makes him more stoned because of the marijuana in the brownies, which in turn makes him more hungry, which makes him more stoned, and on and on. If he is lucky, the pot supply will end before true disaster strikes. And I do mean disaster.

This scenario, of course, deliberately ignores the even further dangers presented by bongwater consumption. Water laced with THC is poisonous enough that some South American tribes have been known to dip their arrows in it. El pene de la serpiente de la montaña, they call it. Scary, scary stuff.

Your headline reads that just over 50 percent somehow survived. Your real question, subby, is how many of that remaining number died horrible, terrible, agonizing deaths.

3/10. needed more jesus. you get bonus points for outright lying about chemistry though.


He had me going until the part about the arrowheads.

/finally got around to color-coding this insanity
 
2012-08-07 12:42:07 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Jubeebee: As someone else said in one of the Olympic threads: I can't believe that a professional swimmer would benefit from a drug that increases appetite, decreases boredom with repetitive tasks, dulls pain, and helps you fall asleep. It truly boggles the mind.

As well as all natural, literally impossible to overdose on, non-addictive, anti-spasmodic, anti-bacterial, anti-emetic, anti-inflammatory while having few and minor side effects. He risked it all!


I know. Using weed is a huge risk, because you'll never amount to anything like a multiple Olympic gold medal winner, or an artist, or a musician, or a writer, or a scientist, or President of the United States.
 
2012-08-07 01:06:43 PM
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But...But...Mushroom People!
 
2012-08-07 01:06:47 PM
What about pot smokers over 60? Why weren't they polled? Is it because they're all DEAD?
 
2012-08-07 01:08:21 PM
The other 50 percent got so stoned they forgot.
 
2012-08-07 01:10:08 PM

Already Disturbed: What about pot smokers over 60? Why weren't they polled? Is it because they're all DEAD?


I omitted them because their numbers were below 50% and would have made calculating the percentage virtually impossible. Between 60-64 reported lifetime use at 37% and 65+ reported lifetime use at 12%.

/subby
 
2012-08-07 01:10:34 PM
And at the same time, those people over 60 now currently support keeping it illegal. It's almost as if adults consider pot a Kiddie Drug, and can't stand adult potheads.
 
2012-08-07 01:13:32 PM
Every singile person who smoked pot before 1899 is dead. There is not one survivor.
 
2012-08-07 01:13:41 PM
Let's see here: according to the DEA, Michael Phelps is a useless, burned out pothead. Was Carl Sagan a world-famous astronomer? Nah, he was another pot smoking deadbeat loser.
 
2012-08-07 01:14:46 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: I plan on smoking later today, so I'm getting a kick.


gonna try my new vaporizer today. woot!
 
2012-08-07 01:15:19 PM
I'm all for legalization, but people need to stop rolling out Carl Sagan Michael Phelps like he is the sole justification for it.
 
2012-08-07 01:15:42 PM
It would totally unharsh my mellow if pot were legalized.

Why can Bucky Braindamaged legally buy an AK-47 and I risk jail trying to get a little pinch of some bud?
 
2012-08-07 01:17:16 PM

Karma Chameleon: I'm all for legalization, but people need to stop rolling out Carl Sagan Michael PhelpsBill Clinton like he is the sole justification for it.

 
2012-08-07 01:17:18 PM
Who makes it to 60 without ever smoking pot?
 
2012-08-07 01:18:30 PM
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2012-08-07 01:19:19 PM

Karma Chameleon: I'm all for legalization, but people need to stop rolling out Carl Sagan Michael Phelps like he is the sole justification for it.


There should be more shaming through tools who don't smoke pot. Don't wanna be like that jerkbag Tim Tebow? Well, guess what he never touched (more than likely, or so his agents and handlers will tell you)? The Batman shooter? No weed in his system. O.J. Simpson had no grass on him when he murdered his ex-wife. Hitler? You tell me, does "puff, puff, pass" sound like a very Hitlerian line of thinking?
 
2012-08-07 01:19:39 PM

Cletus C.: It would totally unharsh my mellow if pot were legalized.

Why can Bucky Braindamaged legally buy an AK-47 and I risk jail trying to get a little pinch of some bud?


Because AK-47's aren't at all dangerous and have never contributed to a single death in the entire history of the universe, while everybody that has ever smoked pot even once has immediately experienced a psychotic break and started a mass murder. Duh! Pull your head out of your ass.
 
2012-08-07 01:19:50 PM
We have an economy that is running a severe shortfall and an underground economy that is flourishing where the negative impact of that product may have been falsely overstated. What should we do?
 
2012-08-07 01:20:59 PM
I'd have something funny to post here, but I don't have any pot.
 
2012-08-07 01:21:41 PM

FishyFred: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x350]

He's a walking advertisement against criminalization.

Maybe that should be his post-swimming career: Spokesmedalist for sensible drug policy organizations.


i.qkme.me

Also, that "Dear Dad" Ad is almost exactly how i told my father i smoke. I'd much rather toke when i get home from a long day than have a beer. I think that explanation helped bridge the gap, i really hope we could get this message into other states.
 
2012-08-07 01:21:48 PM

monoski: We have an economy that is running a severe shortfall and an underground economy that is flourishing where the negative impact of that product may have been falsely overstated. What should we do?


Invade Iran.
 
2012-08-07 01:21:59 PM
And yet any politician who supports legalizing pot has virtually zero chance of winning. Why is that? Are voters hypocrites, or do the over-60's really have that much voting power?
 
2012-08-07 01:25:00 PM

Lord Dimwit: And yet any politician who supports legalizing pot has virtually zero chance of winning. Why is that? Are voters hypocrites, or do the over-60's really have that much voting power?


It's a good way to get out and meet people, them polling places. Trade herbal supplement ideas and diarrhea remedies.

//Old Woman: "Hey, you wanna go upstairs and f*ck?"
///Old Man: "I don't think I could do both."
 
2012-08-07 01:27:47 PM

Lord Dimwit: Are voters hypocrites, or do the over-60's really have that much voting power?


Yes.
 
2012-08-07 01:32:20 PM

Pocket Ninja: Of course pot won't kill you if you just look at it.


i.imgur.com

Looking at it might not kill you, but it might as well.
 
2012-08-07 01:32:54 PM
Lord Dimwit
And yet any politician who supports legalizing pot has virtually zero chance of winning. Why is that? Are voters hypocrites, or do the over-60's really have that much voting power?

I'd argue the Boomers are a bigger obstruction to legalization than the geezers. Everyone that partied it up in the 60s and 70s are now in charge, and they don't want anyone having the same fun that they did - you know, to protect the kids.
 
2012-08-07 01:35:16 PM
Subtard: deadly drug that supposedly kills everyone that so much as looks at it

Who is saying this? No one. Stop farking lying potheads and maybe people will take you seriously.
 
2012-08-07 01:36:14 PM

Corvus: Subtard: deadly drug that supposedly kills everyone that so much as looks at it

Who is saying this? No one. Stop farking lying potheads and maybe people will take you seriously.


Dude, I was being sarcastic.

/again, subby
 
2012-08-07 01:36:59 PM
I say legalize it so it can be regulated and taxed like cigarettes and alcohol. There's a ton of money to be made there.

On the other hand there are too many people like my step-father (an ex-cop) who is convinced that weed is significantly more hazardous to driving ability than alcohol and is as dangerous a drug as heroin and cocaine. It will be a while before it's legalized on a national level.
 
2012-08-07 01:39:12 PM

Corvus: Who is saying this? No one. Stop farking lying potheads and maybe people will take you seriously.Hyperbole confuse my head think

 
2012-08-07 01:40:41 PM

Corvus: Subtard: deadly drug that supposedly kills everyone that so much as looks at it

Who is saying this? No one. Stop farking lying potheads and maybe people will take you seriously.


Well, actually, the FDA refused to reschedule marijuana and turned down any claims of its medicinal value, stating that it was "too dangerous for use even under a physician's supervision"

This was in 2011.

Except the FDA approves drugs all the time that are deadly such as oxy and other painkillers.

So those things which are actually deadly aren't too dangerous, but pot is.

So yes the FDA is saying that weed will kill you.
 
2012-08-07 01:43:54 PM

NeoCortex42: On the other hand there are too many people like my step-father (an ex-cop) who is convinced that weed is significantly more hazardous to driving ability than alcohol and is as dangerous a drug as heroin and cocaine. It will be a while before it's legalized on a national level.


Your step-father isn't in the wrong about his worries, maybe about it being more dangerous, but he's thinking like a cop. I have to admit, as a pot smoker i think you shouldn't be able to drive on the stuff (despite having done that a lot). Keep it in the house, in a hash house coffee shop, hell keep it out of public areas where kids might be.

If we want it treated like booze, we gotta treat it like booze. We have to take the good with the bad if this is to actually happen.
 
2012-08-07 01:44:07 PM
I'm 38 and I'm smoking pot right now. Just like I've done every day of my employed life and careers for the past 17 years.

I like smoking pot. I like the people I've met smoking pot. Smoking pot has never led me to commit any crime other than the crime of smoking pot.

I plan to smoke pot for the rest of my life, or maybe not. I think that choice should be up to me.
 
2012-08-07 01:47:44 PM

Pochas: Except the FDA approves drugs all the time that are deadly such as oxy and other painkillers.


This makes me so insanely furious. There are so many chronic pain patients who are wrecking their lives becoming addicted to really, really bad drugs that put them at major risk for accidental overdose, and it's totally legal... but marijuana, which you can't overdose on, which isn't addictive, and which works incredibly well on a lot of pain problems can land them in jail. Even in the states where medical marijuana is legal, because the DEA is run by crazy zealots who ignore science.
 
2012-08-07 01:49:09 PM

A Mod's Troll Alt: And at the same time, those people over 60 now currently support keeping it illegal. It's almost as if adults consider pot a Kiddie Drug, and can't stand adult potheads.


Do you even really deserve a rating when you tell us right in your login that you're a troll?
 
2012-08-07 01:49:16 PM

Genevieve Marie: Pochas: Except the FDA approves drugs all the time that are deadly such as oxy and other painkillers.

This makes me so insanely furious. There are so many chronic pain patients who are wrecking their lives becoming addicted to really, really bad drugs that put them at major risk for accidental overdose, and it's totally legal... but marijuana, which you can't overdose on, which isn't addictive, and which works incredibly well on a lot of pain problems can land them in jail. Even in the states where medical marijuana is legal, because the DEA is run by crazy zealots who ignore science.


Yup, more people now die in the US from legal prescription drugs than from illegal ones. Pretty sickening but they have their drug gravy train, it just happens to be synthetic opioids instead of pot.
 
2012-08-07 01:50:25 PM

EyeballKid: Hitler? You tell me, does "puff, puff, pass" sound like a very Hitlerian line of thinking?


No, that asshole seems like he'd bogart the whole thing and drool in the bong.
 
2012-08-07 01:52:44 PM
 
2012-08-07 01:57:40 PM

Expolaris: NeoCortex42: On the other hand there are too many people like my step-father (an ex-cop) who is convinced that weed is significantly more hazardous to driving ability than alcohol and is as dangerous a drug as heroin and cocaine. It will be a while before it's legalized on a national level.

Your step-father isn't in the wrong about his worries, maybe about it being more dangerous, but he's thinking like a cop. I have to admit, as a pot smoker i think you shouldn't be able to drive on the stuff (despite having done that a lot). Keep it in the house, in a hash house coffee shop, hell keep it out of public areas where kids might be.

If we want it treated like booze, we gotta treat it like booze. We have to take the good with the bad if this is to actually happen.


Oh, I agree that people shouldn't be driving while high. His argument is that scientific studies have shown that pot is much much worse than alcohol with regards to driving ability. The few studies I've seen say the opposite. Basically, being under the influence of either is bad, but people high are usually more aware that they are impaired and are better able to compensate. Also, being under the influence of both at the same time is significantly worse than either alone.

My problem with his reasoning is that he considers pot to be just as bad as "hard drugs" like heroin and sees no difference between them.

/Doesn't smoke. Doesn't have a problem with folks who do.
 
2012-08-07 01:57:47 PM
Maybe if 0bama didn't do so much pot before, we wouldn't have 8.3% unemployment.
 
2012-08-07 01:59:25 PM
Careful now, you guys seem to be advocating Freedom and Liberty. The government frowns upon your shenanigans.
 
2012-08-07 01:59:57 PM

Expolaris: If we want it treated like booze, we gotta treat it like booze. We have to take the good with the bad if this is to actually happen.


That's A-OK with me and every single weed smoker I know. Who are these people you're arguing with who are saying it should be legal to drive on it and smoke it wherever you wish? Those aren't things I've ever heard anyone anywhere ever advocate for.
 
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