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(Huffington Post)   The Westboro Baptist Church has done something that no other organization has been able to do in two years: Unite Congress   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 164
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2012-08-07 08:16:00 AM
Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks
 
2012-08-07 08:20:56 AM
"We must honor the ultimate sacrifice these men and women made to our Constitution and Bill of Rights by curtailing those rights and passing a law specifically aimed at silencing the free speech of a group of people. Don't worry citizens, while we are violating everything they died for to get a short term gain you can rest easy knowing we probably will never silence you, so long as your speech is on this newly approved list of things you are allowed to say."

-various idiots in Congress
 
2012-08-07 08:27:54 AM
The law counters a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, which found that displays such as Westboro's were protected under the First Amendment.


No, it just violates it. The only way to "counter" a Supreme Court ruling is to amend the Constitution.
 
2012-08-07 09:02:07 AM
First they came for the assholes, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an asshole.
 
2012-08-07 09:12:48 AM
But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.
 
2012-08-07 09:48:51 AM
YAY, WOO, WAY TO GO, WBC!!!
 
2012-08-07 09:51:22 AM

cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks


Yeah, the way I see it, this law takes a big freaking dump on at least 3 parts of the First Amendment.

I hate the WBC with the fire of a supernova, but I think I might just hate this more.

nekom: First they came for the assholes, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an asshole.


Aarontology: But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.


Both of these.
 
2012-08-07 10:03:39 AM

Sybarite: The law counters a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, which found that displays such as Westboro's were protected under the First Amendment.


No, it just violates it. The only way to "counter" a Supreme Court ruling is to amend the Constitution.


I don't like to assume anything about Congress's intelligence, but they have to know that, right? So they're just playing up useless rhetoric for popularity.

Keep the first amendment. Bring back formal ostracism. Everyone writes a name on a ballot, once a year, of an asshole who hasn't done anything technically illegal, and that person has to GTFO.
 
2012-08-07 10:05:22 AM

xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

Yeah, the way I see it, this law takes a big freaking dump on at least 3 parts of the First Amendment.

I hate the WBC with the fire of a supernova, but I think I might just hate this more.

nekom: First they came for the assholes, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an asshole.

Aarontology: But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.

Both of these.


All of that.

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.
 
2012-08-07 10:16:06 AM

SurfaceTension: xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

Yeah, the way I see it, this law takes a big freaking dump on at least 3 parts of the First Amendment.

I hate the WBC with the fire of a supernova, but I think I might just hate this more.

nekom: First they came for the assholes, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an asshole.

Aarontology: But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.

Both of these.

All of that.

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.


At one time, many years ago, he was a civil rights lawyer in Topeka.

It appears he was disbarred some time ago. He is a lunatic, but he is not stupid.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-07 10:27:29 AM

Sybarite: The law counters a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, which found that displays such as Westboro's were protected under the First Amendment.


No, it just violates it. The only way to "counter" a Supreme Court ruling is to amend the Constitution.


Not really, it looks like that ruling related to a civil case. The court determined that the church had a right to protest, but limiting that right isn't legal.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-07 10:32:32 AM

SurfaceTension: xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.


They do that fairly often. The ACLU isn't a left wing organization, it just seems that way because the right tends to have less respect for other peoples civil rights.
 
2012-08-07 10:47:24 AM

vpb: SurfaceTension: xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.

They do that fairly often. The ACLU isn't a left wing organization, it just seems that way because the right tends to have less respect for other peoples civil rights.


You are almost 100% correct. Gun rights is not something that the ACLU is known for defending en masse. If they did that more oft then you would be 100% correct
 
2012-08-07 10:47:41 AM
Why couldn't Congress pass something useful like the "Bikers Get One Free Shot At Funeral-Protesting Douchenozzles Act" instead?
 
2012-08-07 11:08:12 AM

SurfaceTension: xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

Yeah, the way I see it, this law takes a big freaking dump on at least 3 parts of the First Amendment.

I hate the WBC with the fire of a supernova, but I think I might just hate this more.

nekom: First they came for the assholes, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an asshole.

Aarontology: But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.

Both of these.

All of that.

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.


To add to the irony, I, a gay veteran, am inclined to side with the WBC here since I served my country to protect their right to essentially hate me.

*shakes head*
 
2012-08-07 11:13:27 AM
Barack Hussain Obama is attacking Christians!!!
 
2012-08-07 11:21:47 AM

cman: You are almost 100% correct. Gun rights is not something that the ACLU is known for defending en masse. If they did that more oft then you would be 100% correct


That's more the result of other organizations doing most of that work than any sort of bias.
 
2012-08-07 12:09:10 PM

CommieTaoist: Barack Hussain Obama is attacking Christians the First Amendment!!!

 
2012-08-07 12:10:30 PM
I am pretty sure Dana Bash and CNN would like a word with you, subby and HuffPo.
 
2012-08-07 12:12:36 PM

Aarontology: But remember folks. They can still protest gay people's funerals. Or your funeral.


Also remember that half the people that claim to hate WBC had no problems at all with them back when all they did was protest gay people's funerals. It was only until they started protesting the funerals of "America's heroes who done died for your FREEDOMZ!!!!111oneoneone!!" that the right started giving a shiat about the Westboro idiots.
 
2012-08-07 12:13:15 PM
You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.
 
2012-08-07 12:13:15 PM

Gulper Eel: Why couldn't Congress pass something useful like the "Bikers Get One Free Shot At Funeral-Protesting Douchenozzles Act" instead?


Id be in favor of this act, seeing as sooner or later the douches are going to protest the wrong funeral and someone is gonna get shot.
 
2012-08-07 12:13:48 PM
I can't for the life of me see why anyone would have a reason to protest a funeral. If you didn't like the guy, you won. He's dead. Move on.
 
2012-08-07 12:14:11 PM

Aarontology: cman: You are almost 100% correct. Gun rights is not something that the ACLU is known for defending en masse. If they did that more oft then you would be 100% correct

That's more the result of other organizations doing most of that work than any sort of bias.


I do wish they'd spend more time on the 2nd though. Not because that particular amendment needs any more protection, but because getting the NRA to come out in favor of gun bans in response to an ACLU defense of the second amendment is probably the only way to make it clear to the assbrained chucklefarks of Red State America that the NRA doesn't give two shiats about them.
 
2012-08-07 12:14:55 PM
Next up: flag burning amendment. We must protect that symbol of freedom by restricting your freedom.
 
2012-08-07 12:15:44 PM
WBC is to Christianity what the Republican party is to conservatism.
 
2012-08-07 12:15:50 PM
It would figure that, in America, it would not be millions of children living in poverty, millions of people unable to afford health insurance, an abysmal education system, etc., that would unite Congress, but a very small group of people that insults one of our precious symbols of perceived exceptionalism.
 
2012-08-07 12:16:19 PM

CPennypacker: I can't for the life of me see why anyone would have a reason to protest a funeral. If you didn't like the guy, you won. He's dead. Move on.


substitute "anyone" with "troll", "protest" with "threadshiat", and "funeral" with "thread". And you have Fermat's Last Theorem of Fark.
 
2012-08-07 12:16:48 PM

The Homer Tax: You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.


The Homer Tax: You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.


The Homer Tax: You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.


Cannot be said enough.
 
2012-08-07 12:17:03 PM

Spazmojack: Next up: flag burning amendment. We must protect that symbol of freedom by restricting your freedom.


meh. This legislation comes from a good place. It's just wrong. Flag burning amendments are much more stupid
 
2012-08-07 12:17:33 PM
If only Westboro could hate unemployment then maybe the Republicans might be tempted to do something about that too.
 
2012-08-07 12:17:36 PM

cubic_spleen: WBC is to Christianity what the Republican party is to conservatism.


A little restraint here. WBC isn't THAT bad.
 
2012-08-07 12:18:37 PM

Spazmojack: Next up: flag burning amendment. We must protect that symbol of freedom by restricting your freedom.


Followed by: mosque banning amendment. We must protect your freedom of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by denying it for others.
 
2012-08-07 12:18:47 PM

The Homer Tax: You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.


I couldn't agree more. You know the gov. is going to abuse this.
 
rpm
2012-08-07 12:18:47 PM

xanadian:
To add to the irony, I, a gay veteran, am inclined to side with the WBC here since I served my country to protect their right to essentially hate me.

*shakes head*


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2012-08-07 12:18:49 PM
cubic_spleen: WBC is to Christianity what the Republican party is to conservatism.

^^ This.
 
2012-08-07 12:18:50 PM
Just make a law that cities etc. aren't liable if something happens at a protest and the police aren't there.

Consitutional (as of a couple of years ago) and would shut them down fast.
 
2012-08-07 12:18:57 PM

Sybarite: The law counters a 2011 Supreme Court ruling, which found that displays such as Westboro's were protected under the First Amendment.


No, it just violates it. The only way to "counter" a Supreme Court ruling is to amend the Constitution.


Or nominate new justices.
 
2012-08-07 12:19:13 PM
how does this affect their photoshop campaign?
 
rpm
2012-08-07 12:19:53 PM

cubic_spleen: WBC is to Christianity what the Republican party is to conservatism.


Republicans are the only true conservatives?
 
2012-08-07 12:21:38 PM

The Homer Tax: You don't honor fallen soldiers by limiting the freedoms they died to protect.


I'll start the chain of inevitable "this"es.

I'm certainly not a Constitutional law scholar, let alone an armchair lawyer, but this seems EXACTLY opposed to the spirit of the First Amendment. Every member of WBC deserves a nice, swift dickpunch as far as I'm concerned, but the SCOTUS has already said that WBC is reprehensible but constitutional. I'd like to think that, some members aside, Congress realizes that the SCOTUS does, in fact, get to decide what is and is not constitutional.
 
2012-08-07 12:21:44 PM
I thought it said untie Congress and I had another reason to dislike the WBC.
 
2012-08-07 12:21:53 PM
"The graves of our veterans are hallowed grounds." So show a little respect. Kiss my ass and shove your protest
 
2012-08-07 12:24:46 PM

cman: vpb: SurfaceTension: xanadian: cman: Uniting congress by passing laws that restrict rights happens more oft than one thinks

One wonders if Fred Phelps' head will asplode when the ACLU brings suit in their favor.

They do that fairly often. The ACLU isn't a left wing organization, it just seems that way because the right tends to have less respect for other peoples civil rights.

You are almost 100% correct. Gun rights is not something that the ACLU is known for defending en masse. If they did that more oft then you would be 100% correct


The reason they do not defend gun rights issues is because organizations like the NRA tend to be better financed and equipped to focus specifically on that. However, the ACLU does put out statements on those issues that support those defending the 2nd amendment, even when they can't afford to participate in the legal side of it, like going to court and filing briefs and all that.
 
2012-08-07 12:24:50 PM
Evil people have a right to speak their minds, too -- no matter how much harm their hateful, ignorant, or violent rhetoric causes.

/I've never felt so free.
 
2012-08-07 12:25:07 PM
I thought we already had a great way of dealing with these inbreds.

Human chains, huge sheets that obscure the hate messages (ironically, usually white sheets), counter-protests with 10x as many people as WBC cretins, and a general sense that the WBC is everything wrong with America.

Why do we need an unConstitutional law for something we'd already dealt with?

// and this new law would prohibit counter-protests as well
// though they'd be obviated with the "don't protest at military funerals" part
 
2012-08-07 12:25:16 PM
Not a big fan of this. As distasteful as the WBC is, they're a necessary product of free speech.
 
2012-08-07 12:26:02 PM
Is this the thread where we pretend that soldiers dying in wars of choice are defending our freedoms?
 
2012-08-07 12:26:36 PM

Snapper Carr: Not a big fan of this. As distasteful as the WBC is, they're a necessary unfortunate byproduct of free speech.


FTFY
 
2012-08-07 12:29:04 PM
There's an easy fix to the constitutional grey area of this you know. Set a 10-year date on it so it has to be renewed in alternating presidential terms. Wait until Phelps dies. Everyone wins.
 
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