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(NBC Olympics)   Brazil narrowly edges out Spain to claim the #2 seed in basketball after the Spanish defense developed more holes than a badminton net   (nbcolympics.com) divider line 23
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2012-08-07 09:35:28 AM
Brazil hasn't even woke up yet.
 
2012-08-07 10:41:42 AM
Things happen when you're tanking to avoid the US before the medal round. Also, Brazil is pretty good.

Remember, though, the Americans are bad sports because they play every game to win and have to play every game without doing anything dirty or else they'll receive international scorn. Every team the play, though, can be dirty as hell, because "you have to do it to have a chance."
 
2012-08-07 11:41:35 AM

IAmRight: Things happen when you're tanking to avoid the US before the medal round. Also, Brazil is pretty good.

Remember, though, the Americans are bad sports because they play every game to win and have to play every game without doing anything dirty or else they'll receive international scorn. Every team the play, though, can be dirty as hell, because "you have to do it to have a chance."


"Now remember in the international game, it's considered acceptable to use technical fouls to your advantage."

Yeah. We used to do that in the NBA too. Then everyone started calling it thugball and quit watching, so take your dirty shiat back to Argentina.

All I can say is, thank GOD that guy punched Carmelo Anthony and not someone else. Carmelo is really about the only one on the team who is actually arrogant enough to come up from being punched laughing at their audacity instead of coming up outraged and swinging.
 
2012-08-07 11:47:07 AM

Mr Guy: Carmelo is really about the only one on the team who is actually arrogant enough to come up from being punched laughing at their audacity instead of coming up outraged and swinging.


Nah, most of the team knows that if you're America you're not allowed to do anything, no matter how justified, because then you're a mean ol' bully to the rest of the world and everyone b*tches and moans about how you beat them in basketball and you beat their players up just for something as innocent as running out of their way to punch you in the cock at the end of a quarter.

/the Argentinians really need a couple dozen elbows to every one of their faces every game for how they flop
 
2012-08-07 11:53:59 AM
Mr Guy:
All I can say is, thank GOD that guy punched Carmelo Anthony and not someone else. Carmelo is really about the only one on the team who is actually arrogant enough to come up from being punched laughing at their audacity instead of coming up outraged and swinging.


We're looking for antonyms for the phrase 'outraged and swinging'

Show me arrogant!

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/Since he can laugh off someone's attempt to hurt him means he's arrogant? I would say it means he has control and is smart in realizing any retaliation is going to reflect poorly on himself, his team and his country.
//Sorry, we were looking for 'Truck'
 
2012-08-07 12:03:55 PM

booztravlr: Since he can laugh off someone's attempt to hurt him means he's arrogant?


Welcome to the ridiculous treatment of the USA basketball team by internet losers. They're actually good, therefore they must be arrogant! We'll ignore the fact that they sacrificed pretty much all of their time off between seasons to go and play, voluntarily, in order to represent their country. We'll ignore that they actually do go out and support other USA teams around the Olympics. We'll ignore the fact that they've been the most sportsmanly of every team here despite the fact that the refs brazenly hold them to a stricter standard than everyone else and won't let their bigs do anything defensively without being called for fouls.

All because they make more money in their real jobs and largely (though this will naturally be denied because they know it's not socially acceptable to be up-front about it) because they're black.
 
2012-08-07 12:12:43 PM

booztravlr: /Since he can laugh off someone's attempt to hurt him means he's arrogant? I would say it means he has control and is smart in realizing any retaliation is going to reflect poorly on himself, his team and his country.
//Sorry, we were looking for 'Truck'



No, Carmelo IS arrogant, consistently so. He's got absolutely no facade of humility. I'm saying in this instance, MOST of Team USA would have popped up angry and competitive, but Carmelo is someone unique on the team in that his competitiveness largely seems targeted at himself. Kobe and LeBron seem to want to destroy you, personally, when you compete against them. Carmelo has always worn the impression that you don't need to be destroyed because he can just go over, under, or around you.
 
2012-08-07 12:16:02 PM
To be fair they had trouble seeing

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2012-08-07 12:24:30 PM
i'm going to assume that this is because of the pre-rio bump...
 
2012-08-07 12:38:24 PM
Congrats on dominating a sport that only your country gives half a shiat about!
 
2012-08-07 12:53:23 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Congrats on dominating a sport that only your country gives half a shiat about!


Thanks!
 
2012-08-07 01:17:42 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Congrats on dominating a sport that only your country gives half a shiat about!


As opposed to track bicycling like the Brits or ping-pong or badminton by the Chinese.

Basketball is far more popular around the world than either of those sports. Again, if we'd gone and conquered the world centuries ago, then more people would play our games. Instead we have to rely on the fact that they're better than everyone else's and then show it.
 
2012-08-07 02:08:55 PM

Malcolm_Sex: Congrats on dominating a sport that only your country gives half a shiat about!


Congrats on not knowing how much basketball is really an international sport.

1. Every Olympic team except for one, Tunsia, has NBA players in it. (Here's a list of who is on what team)
2. The rest of the non-NBA players are professional players in their own countries. You will be hard pressed to find actual amateur players in any of the Olympic teams. (And these are good teams like Lithuania, who gave the US team a real run for their money.)

And you can bet that there are NBA scouts in the stands watching these games like a hawk looking for new possible recruits in the non-American, non-NBA players. These non-American teams aren't just playing for the gold, they are playing for a potential contract.
 
2012-08-07 04:03:45 PM

DoctorRock: race card and whining.....yup, sounds like you.


Please feel free to back up any of your stupid, racist opinions with any documented facts. Last I checked the USA team wasn't the one taking racist team photos (Spain). The USA team wasn't quitting to gain a favorable matchup (Spain again). The USA team wasn't throwing the ball the length of the court after missed free throws (Argentina) and after their own made baskets (again, Argentina).

No one has been b*tching about how any other sport's athletes don't deserve to represent their nation, or how other sports should stop being allowed in the Olympics because another nation is good at it. Do you think the Chinese say "c'mon, guys, let's get table tennis out of the Olympics already, we kill everyone and it's no fun. Besides, our teams clearly don't care."?

Everyone got behind Phelps when he was favored to win every event; there was no call for him to be banned from the games or not be allowed to compete in so many events. We didn't degrade Phelps for other nations' swimmers being anywhere near him at the finish line - it only added to Phelps' glory.

So why isn't the men's basketball team treated the same way? Where has the alleged arrogance been on display, outside of misrepresentation of quotes (Kobe said that this team could beat the Dream Team, not that they were better than them - if you know anything about sports, you know there's a huge difference between the two statements). Does anyone make a stink about it if other American athletes don't go watch random Americans at other events? If they have, I've never seen it.

One of our teams has been a complete embarrassment on an international level with their behavior at an Olympics: our men's hockey team (some of us remember Nagano). Yet no one calls our hockey teams arrogant or assholes.

So feel free to point out a situation where the US men's basketball team has done something where we might consider them any more arrogant or spoiled than any other nation's basketball team and/or any other American Olympic team.

Please point out another team where if they win, there will be a similar number of people saying that they're entitled assholes unworthy of the Olympics and if they lose, then they'll be called lazy entitled assholes unworthy of representing the country. I'll wait.
 
2012-08-07 07:59:17 PM

DoctorRock: because they are not only some of the biggest name athletes in the world, they are also celebrities? ever heard an AM sports talk show? they pick apart athletes all the time....the bigger the name, the better.....theyre not some 16 year old gymnast, famous once every 4 years...theyre in the spotlight all year round and people love to shiat on celebrities. when youre rich and famous everything is magnified and you have to take the good with the bad....suck it up , nancy


This is gibberish that has nothing to do with anything at hand.

DoctorRock: the hockey team from 1988 were spoiled assholes.......the basketball team from 2004 were spoiled assholes.....both had to eat shiat for 4 years to get rid of that label.....whats your point? you do realize that basketball is much more popular than hockey, right? and therefore basketball stories get more coverage....good and bad


a) it was 1998, not 1988.
b) did the hockey team need to be "redeemed"?
c) does anyone call the current USA hockey team spoiled assholes because of a team from a decade ago? No, this only happens in basketball?

That's Clue No. 1, since you need a few.

DoctorRock: they are by far the most talented team....they should win...the only way they dont is if they get lazy......RACISM!!!


In any other sport, do we say that the better team getting upset can only be due to the better team's laziness? No. We'll say the other team played a great game. The better team choked. They had a hot goalie. We couldn't score. In no other sport do we try to write it off as "they were lazy."

That would be Clue No. 2.

DoctorRock: alot of people i know dont watch the NBA, but they love college ball. they dont like the style of play, they dont like the refs, and they dont like david stern.


This has nothing to do with the Olympics, which do not take place with NBA rules, are played with a different style, use different refs, and are not governed by David Stern. The fact that you'd bring this in is pretty telling that you know you're full of sh*t.

That kinda shows how grasp at anything to try to show how coverage and treatment of USA basketball by much of the internet population isn't racist - you'll grab onto anything different, no matter how irrelevant it is. Of course there's positive coverage. Basketball fans actually like watching the American team because it's probably the least selfish team in the world, and when they play as well as they can, it's magnificent to watch. They play cleaner than every other team in the Olympics and they've volunteered to play despite the fact that no one in the NBA really wants them to, from Stern to their owners. They, again, have nothing to gain from this and everything to lose and people still act as though they don't care as much as others.
 
2012-08-07 08:25:08 PM

IAmRight: DoctorRock: because they are not only some of the biggest name athletes in the world, they are also celebrities? ever heard an AM sports talk show? they pick apart athletes all the time....the bigger the name, the better.....theyre not some 16 year old gymnast, famous once every 4 years...theyre in the spotlight all year round and people love to shiat on celebrities. when youre rich and famous everything is magnified and you have to take the good with the bad....suck it up , nancy

This is gibberish that has nothing to do with anything at hand.

DoctorRock: the hockey team from 1988 were spoiled assholes.......the basketball team from 2004 were spoiled assholes.....both had to eat shiat for 4 years to get rid of that label.....whats your point? you do realize that basketball is much more popular than hockey, right? and therefore basketball stories get more coverage....good and bad

a) it was 1998, not 1988.
b) did the hockey team need to be "redeemed"?
c) does anyone call the current USA hockey team spoiled assholes because of a team from a decade ago? No, this only happens in basketball?

That's Clue No. 1, since you need a few.

DoctorRock: they are by far the most talented team....they should win...the only way they dont is if they get lazy......RACISM!!!

In any other sport, do we say that the better team getting upset can only be due to the better team's laziness? No. We'll say the other team played a great game. The better team choked. They had a hot goalie. We couldn't score. In no other sport do we try to write it off as "they were lazy."

That would be Clue No. 2.

DoctorRock: alot of people i know dont watch the NBA, but they love college ball. they dont like the style of play, they dont like the refs, and they dont like david stern.

This has nothing to do with the Olympics, which do not take place with NBA rules, are played with a different style, use different refs, and are not governed by David Stern. The fact that you'd bring this in is pretty telling ...


... Thread of the week. Or of the Olympics. This one deserves to be saved.
 
2012-08-07 08:39:35 PM

DoctorRock: whaaa! any media coverage that doesnt suck their dicks is racist! i know because someone on the internet said the N word! youre a farking joke.


And you still have no answer except to flail around like a moron.

Why did USA basketball have to be "redeemed," while USA hockey didn't? Let's just limit it to that one simple question.

Why is this the series of arguments?

USA wins huge: They should take basketball (or NBA players) out of the Olympics! It's supposed to be for amateurs except every other sport where everyone's a professional and every team has professional basketball players playing for it, most of them even have players in the NBA! Look at what classless bullies they are, beating up on a bunch of players who have never played before (I will ignore that at least one of them is in the NBA and several others went to Division I colleges and played there)
USA wins big: So what? That's what they're supposed to do. Dream Team was better! Also, get NBA players out of the Olympics!
USA wins by a moderate margin: US is lazy and doesn't take anyone else seriously! Don't they know the rest of the world can play basketball? They should know! A lot of these guys are in the NBA and they've played against them!
USA wins by a small margin: Those guys are so damn lazy! If they actually gave a sh*t they'd be winning by 80 (so I could condemn them for running up the score!) Get NBA players out of the Olympics! It should be for younger players only! Basketball players have too many chances at medals! By the way, Michael Phelps is the greatest athlete ever! 20+ gold medals! If these lazy-ass NBA players ever TRIED then they'd have at least half that many by now. Man, they suck.
USA loses: THIS IS A NATIONAL TRAVESTY DON'T ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE BACK IN THE COUNTRY

And yet they voluntarily sign up to play for you f*cking ingrates.
 
2012-08-07 10:42:48 PM
The Olympic team is a little strange. I normally can't stand the stars on "designated villain" teams (Lakers, mostly), but I can root for them when they're representing the U.S.

I guess this means I really just dislike the Lakers as a team, not as individuals. They're just the bad guys in my personal NBA-watching narrative, mostly because they're not the Rockets.

I assume it's this way for lots of people.
 
2012-08-08 03:09:12 AM
I'm just dropping in to say that I've seen more logic and coherence from a three year old strung out on acid than I have from DoctorRock in this thread.

I disagree with IAmRight over the root cause; I think it's more a sense of envy than racism that leads the US Basketball team to be unfairly criticized. I very much agree with him that there is an indefensible double standard in play.
 
2012-08-08 03:46:24 AM

NetOwl: The Olympic team is a little strange. I normally can't stand the stars on "designated villain" teams (Lakers, mostly), but I can root for them when they're representing the U.S.

I guess this means I really just dislike the Lakers as a team, not as individuals. They're just the bad guys in my personal NBA-watching narrative, mostly because they're not the Rockets.

I assume it's this way for lots of people.


I always respect the players that join up for the international competitions. So even when LeBron, or Carmello Anthony, or Dwight Howard do stuff that gets them a bad rap back home, I'm always hesitant to jump on the hate-wagon. These guys manned up and helped win a gold medal for this country, which means a lot in my book. And some of these guys are on their way to helping win a second. I don't want them beating my personal favorite team back in the NBA, but playing in the Olympics has a definite impact on my opinion of them as players and people.
 
2012-08-08 09:01:55 AM

NetOwl: The Olympic team is a little strange. I normally can't stand the stars on "designated villain" teams (Lakers, mostly), but I can root for them when they're representing the U.S.

I guess this means I really just dislike the Lakers as a team, not as individuals. They're just the bad guys in my personal NBA-watching narrative, mostly because they're not the Rockets.

I assume it's this way for lots of people.


I'm sure in Akron Ohio, there are people wishing the US Team could win gold, but somehow LeBron does not.
 
2012-08-08 09:22:20 AM

TheAlternator: I disagree with IAmRight over the root cause; I think it's more a sense of envy than racism that leads the US Basketball team to be unfairly criticized.


I'm not saying it's 100% rooted in racism, simply that there is an unwritten tinge of racism in coverage/discussion of basketball. Envy certainly plays a role as well.

C'mon, you surely know the cliches about how white players in sports are hard-working, scrappy, smart players. When was the last time you heard a black athlete referred to as all of those things? Even when they do try to call the black guy smart, they always stop short - they have a high "sport IQ" or they're "well-spoken," terms which are almost exclusively used to describe black athletes. Similarly, you hear a lot more about "lazy" and "don't care" about black athletes (especially basketball players).

Larry Brown certainly contributed to that perception in 2004 by consistently calling his team those things, doing an excellent job of shifting all the blame from himself (dude, you started Stephon Marbury and Allen Iverson in the backcourt, Richard Jefferson and Carlos Boozer in the frontcourt, and left LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Carmelo Anthony on the bench most of the time because they were young. Don't tell me about players being lazy - you're a sh*tty talent evaluator and you give far too much credit to veterans. His starting five wouldn't even win an NBA title if they were all on the same team. Poor Tim Duncan.

I get that a lot of the "lazy" stems from casual viewers' complete ignorance about the sport and envy about actually seeing raw athleticism that they could never exhibit (head-above-rim dunks).

It's frustrating seeing people actually be serious when they're saying "why doesn't he do that every time?" after someone gets through three guys and dunks. Do they ever do this in hockey? "Why doesn't that guy just split two defenders and go top shelf while falling down every time he has the puck? What a lazy douche." Not that I've ever seen.

But I don't think envy alone can explain everything, like "token white guy" claims about Kevin Love - as though black people are naturally suited to play the sport and a white guy on the team has to be a token, rather than the best rebounder in the league and 3-point contest champion.
 
2012-08-08 09:27:23 AM

degenerate-afro: I'm sure in Akron Ohio, there are people wishing the US Team could win gold, but somehow LeBron does not.


Akron doesn't seem to hate him near as much as Cleveland does. I mean, he did take out a full-page ad thanking Akron for everything, not Cleveland.
 
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