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2012-08-06 08:41:08 PM  
11 votes:
Males less supportive of gay marriage
2012-08-06 08:41:48 PM  
10 votes:
Last time I checked, I've got nards, like women in latex, and completely support gay marriage.

The 21st century was supposed to be about awesome and a new age of reason. Fark all this hatred, religious assery and bigotry.
2012-08-06 08:40:24 PM  
6 votes:
I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.
2012-08-06 09:14:14 PM  
5 votes:
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2012-08-06 09:41:37 PM  
4 votes:

Pantubo: Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!


You really have to wonder about people who bring up shiat like this.

Reminds me of the Baptist minister who said to his Unitarian-Universalist minister friend: "Since you don't believe in divine retribution, you could commit murder or rape without worrying about its effect on your immortal soul." The Unitarian replied, "Yes, but the idea of doing something like that would never occur to me."
2012-08-06 08:47:22 PM  
4 votes:

URAPNIS: The whole marriage thing is complete bullshiat anyway.


Just because you are divorced, working in a dead end job, and paying two thirds of your salary in child support doesn't mean the rest of us will fark it up.
2012-08-06 11:33:03 PM  
3 votes:
I never understood why straight men would have any problem with gay men. Every gay man in the world is one less you have to compete with for females.
2012-08-06 09:30:40 PM  
3 votes:

CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.


Japan does it this way. You apply for a marriage license (like applying for a driver's license), pay the taxes and application fees. Three bangs of a rubber stamp later and you're married. NEXT! It takes about twenty minutes or so to sink before you realize what you have just done. Marriage ceremonies are optional but not required. I'm sure finding a religious leader willing to preside would not be to difficult at this point as the marriage would already have been recognized by the government anyways.
2012-08-06 08:51:27 PM  
3 votes:

radarlove: I'm anti government involvement in any form of religious ceremony, no matter what religion or who is participating.


So atheists who get married by a judge aren't married? A couple married by a ship captain aren't married? Or a notary public? Or a star fleet admiral in Vegas?

/marriage isn't a religious ceremony
2012-08-06 08:48:28 PM  
3 votes:
I'm anti government involvement in any form of religious ceremony, no matter what religion or who is participating.

Then again, I'm anti government involvement in most things. Gub'mint just tends to fark things up.
2012-08-06 08:46:16 PM  
3 votes:
I was relatively sure it was 'straight males don't care about marriage. Period."?
2012-08-06 08:43:53 PM  
3 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: what is 'gay marriage' and how does it differ from NORMAL marriage?

seriously.


After gay marriage you still get blowjobs.
2012-08-07 12:36:06 AM  
2 votes:

blueviking: studebaker hoch: blueviking
....

It's fine if you want to cherry-pick, it's your religion, I don't give a fark but, if you're stating that, because they are not the direct words of Jesus or "God" as written, then you might as well trash about 80% of the book and declare the whole thing null and void. Leviticus is taken, traditionally, to be the word of Moses, which Jesus himself clearly states must be believed for his own teachings to have any validity.


EXACTLY. And as Blueviking correctly infers, if you eat shellfish, don't send your women out of town when they're on their rags, wear polyester/cotton blend clothes or think slavery is wrong, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

/Blueviking's inference, not mine. Please address your hate-posts correctly.
2012-08-07 12:02:48 AM  
2 votes:

Lemmon714: It is not bigoted to believe such behaviour is outside of the natural law, or that it should not be codified into the legal system.


Yes it is. Shut up, bigot.
2012-08-06 11:48:50 PM  
2 votes:

Lemmon714: The worst part is, when same-sex marriage is finally legalized, they're still not going to stop. Legal equality will not be enough. They're after moral equivalence. And they will continue their attempts to silence those who do not agree with their position.

They will not stop trying until they change the worldview that has been held for the entirety of human civilization. Legal acceptance of their behaviours will not satisfy them. They will continue to intrude on people and institutions with deeply held beliefs, and call them bigots for holding such beliefs.

Such beliefs are not strictly a Christian or religious ideal. Homosexual relationships have existed forever. But they are not the equivalent of marriage. They are not the foundation for a family or a society. Being a biological dead-end, they are outside of the natural law, and that can never be changed.

It is not bigoted to believe such behaviour is outside of the natural law, or that it should not be codified into the legal system. Legal marriage is the recognition of the natural order. That is why heterosexual marriage has existed for all of human history. Homosexual marriage is outside of the natural order. That is why it has never been legally endorsed. Not until our generation, which has the prideful, arrogant audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.

Still, go ahead. Get "married". Seek all those other rights you feel you don't have today.
But shut up already with insisting homosexual relationships are equally valid.
The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God say differently.


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2012-08-06 11:45:16 PM  
2 votes:

Marine1: reillan: Marine1: Not surprising. Even though I'm trying to be more open-minded about human sexuality, I have to admit, there is... a switch that gets "thrown" if you will when you see two dudes kissing. I don't think the Bible can be properly interpreted to damn gays and lesbians. It's not a religious prejudice. It just... is. Maybe it's surprise that such things actually do happen. Straight men (and society at large) don't get to see much homosexual interaction on a daily basis; such individuals make up a rather paltry 11% of the population the last time I checked. Maybe guys are just conditioned to see male and female acting affectionate towards each other. I think it's also hard for a straight guy to grasp the idea of being attracted to another man.

I don't like that the switch gets thrown and reason it out in my head that it is explainable (and benign) behavior, but there is a moment of pause when you see that sort of thing or consider it. Anyone else get what I'm talking about? Maybe I can figure this out and get over it.

Agreed. Two dudes kissing is a total turn-off. I really wish they'd stop putting it in all the porn I watch.

No, seriously though, the problem is one of hegemonic masculinity. Homosexuality is more of a challenge to that power structure than any woman having power.

Hm... I'm not sure. Some of the gay dudes I know are the "manliest" guys I know as well. They work on cars, watch sports, etc. They do things that are masculine.


The challenge comes from the convergence point between what is expected and what is experienced. We expect a relationship to have a clear male role and a clear female role. We most often expect to see those roles easily enforced by the genders associated with them, but it's understood when the roles are flipped, as there is still a clear male and clear female role. We joke about the guys whose women "wear the pants in the family," etc. In a male|male relationship, we assume those roles must still be enforced (one guy is the "biatch"), but it becomes more difficult to ascertain. The easily-visible dichotomy is challenged, and we're left in a situation where we have to question our own sense of what is masculine. Because such questioning is, itself, hyper-unmasculine, we find ourselves struggling to ignore the questions at the same time as we're faced with them, and the discomfort level grows.

Either that, or you could just be homophobic. :D
2012-08-06 11:28:32 PM  
2 votes:

Lemmon714: The worst part is, when same-sex marriage is finally legalized, they're still not going to stop. Legal equality will not be enough. They're after moral equivalence. And they will continue their attempts to silence those who do not agree with their position.

They will not stop trying until they change the worldview that has been held for the entirety of human civilization. Legal acceptance of their behaviours will not satisfy them. They will continue to intrude on people and institutions with deeply held beliefs, and call them bigots for holding such beliefs.

Such beliefs are not strictly a Christian or religious ideal. Homosexual relationships have existed forever. But they are not the equivalent of marriage. They are not the foundation for a family or a society. Being a biological dead-end, they are outside of the natural law, and that can never be changed.

It is not bigoted to believe such behaviour is outside of the natural law, or that it should not be codified into the legal system. Legal marriage is the recognition of the natural order. That is why heterosexual marriage has existed for all of human history. Homosexual marriage is outside of the natural order. That is why it has never been legally endorsed. Not until our generation, which has the prideful, arrogant audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.

Still, go ahead. Get "married". Seek all those other rights you feel you don't have today.
But shut up already with insisting homosexual relationships are equally valid.
The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God say differently.


It's like Bevets, but with longer sentences!

/i'd argue you, but I know willful ignorance when I see it
//When the world ends due to gays having sex, then I'll probably be looking to the Lexus lot, rather than to the sky for atonement
2012-08-06 11:20:44 PM  
2 votes:
The worst part is, when same-sex marriage is finally legalized, they're still not going to stop. Legal equality will not be enough. They're after moral equivalence. And they will continue their attempts to silence those who do not agree with their position.

They will not stop trying until they change the worldview that has been held for the entirety of human civilization. Legal acceptance of their behaviours will not satisfy them. They will continue to intrude on people and institutions with deeply held beliefs, and call them bigots for holding such beliefs.

Such beliefs are not strictly a Christian or religious ideal. Homosexual relationships have existed forever. But they are not the equivalent of marriage. They are not the foundation for a family or a society. Being a biological dead-end, they are outside of the natural law, and that can never be changed.

It is not bigoted to believe such behaviour is outside of the natural law, or that it should not be codified into the legal system. Legal marriage is the recognition of the natural order. That is why heterosexual marriage has existed for all of human history. Homosexual marriage is outside of the natural order. That is why it has never been legally endorsed. Not until our generation, which has the prideful, arrogant audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.

Still, go ahead. Get "married". Seek all those other rights you feel you don't have today.
But shut up already with insisting homosexual relationships are equally valid.
The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God say differently.
2012-08-06 10:12:59 PM  
2 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


Other than my kid (he was the only thing I wanted), I asked for (and got) nothing. Courts ordered
my ex to pay a measly $56 / week in child support, which I haven't seen in over 11 years. I would
have taken him to court over it, except that my son has enough emotional issues without being told
that his mom sent his dad to jail (and that is exactly how my ex would spin it).

You won't believe the screaming matches I had with my *mother* over why I wasn't taking him to
the cleaners during the divorce. She just didn't get that all I wanted was to be away and safe and
to not have the threat of him taking my son away from me used as a way to keep me in line.
2012-08-06 09:20:22 PM  
2 votes:
Men should be for marriage equality if only for the chance that with gay marriage fully recognized, there will be no way to discriminate based on sex for alimony.
And if non applicable for homosexual marriage the practice would hopefully be finally stopped for all marriages.
2012-08-06 09:03:49 PM  
2 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


Probably depends on the sitchy-aytion. My mom got fark-all from divorcing my dad, and he got primary custody.

Second go round, step-dad was the one what did the running, so she got money from him for a long while, and bennies.
RnR
2012-08-06 08:59:14 PM  
2 votes:
As a straight male I support gay marriage 100%. I'm also in support of gay couples being allowed to have children via adoption or surrogate.

I also support being randomly sent baked goods. Preferably Banana Nut or Blueberry muffins. I support BIE too. Dolphin juggling, flapjack throwing competitions, edible underwear on women covered in raspberry jam and brownie birthday cakes covered in marshmallow icing.

No one gives a damn about a woman's right to cover herself in raspberry jam and send a random stranger pictures of said act along with a basket of fresh baked muffins but as soon as someone mentions gay marriage everyone gets all up in arms and takes a side.

If ANYONE wants to get married whether for love or for tax reasons let them. At this point in history it shouldn't even be close to a big deal.

As a people we need to move on to more important issues like somehow getting RnR pictures of hot 18+ females covered in raspberry jam and wearing candy undies. (I'll also settle for that muffin basket). Everything else is just old men yelling at the clouds.
2012-08-06 08:48:47 PM  
2 votes:

you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.


Soon enough, it will only be between a group of men, a group of women, a bengal tiger, two dogs, a VHS tape and a turtle.
2012-08-06 08:44:28 PM  
2 votes:
The whole marriage thing is complete bullshiat anyway.
2012-08-07 10:28:40 AM  
1 vote:

blueviking: But yet there are several other verses encouraging heterosexual sex throughout the Bible, and not just the prohibition against "laying with" one's wife during menses, whereas the specific act of intercourse between two men has nothing but prohibitions tied to it. And the only mentions of oral sex are between male and female that I've seen, and that only spoken of in metaphor. But, half the homosexual population exclusively engaging in oral sex? Love to see the statistic.


You are aware that lesbians are homosexuals too, aren't you? They make up half the homosexual population, and there are plenty of gay men that don't do anal either.

The Bible actually says very little about homosexual acts, and nothing that directly addresses homosexuality as we understand it today. People always think that the Bible was written with their modern sensibilities. They are wrong. Marriage was nothing more then the exchange of property between men, for example. Homosexual acts were also commonly performs by what we consider straight males.

Taking the Bible at face value is why the people that follow it usually barely understand their own religion.
2012-08-07 02:40:29 AM  
1 vote:
The dick isn't in my ass. I can care less. Leave people alone and mind your own business.
2012-08-07 12:40:32 AM  
1 vote:

What_do_you_want_now: Leviticus 18:22


Here's a nice discussion, written by a rabbi, on this particular Torah verse.
2012-08-07 12:23:51 AM  
1 vote:

What_do_you_want_now:

....Have you even READ Leviticus? There's about 6(give or take a few) total verses about what men can and cannot have sex with. Your own biblical ignorance has rendered your argument invalid and people are now free to ignore you without so much


Okay, I've wondered this many times, so I'll pose it to you: Why is the Bible regarded as having some sort of authority over modern American? Why is it relevant?
2012-08-07 12:16:44 AM  
1 vote:

Marine1: Straight men (and society at large) don't get to see much homosexual interaction on a daily basis; such individuals make up a rather paltry 11% of the population the last time I checked.


African-Americans make up about 12% of the population of the U.S. Perhaps it's okay to discriminate against them, too?


I don't like that the switch gets thrown and reason it out in my head that it is explainable (and benign) behavior, but there is a moment of pause when you see that sort of thing or consider it. Anyone else get what I'm talking about? Maybe I can figure this out and get over it.

That switch doesn't get thrown for me.

Maybe it's because we live in Los Angeles where things are a tad more liberal than in flyover country. Our daughter has four friends with same-sex parents. She's never commented or asked questions about them. Our daughter knows that some kids have a mom+dad. Other kids might have mom+mom, or dad+dad, or they might be adopted, or raised by aunts/uncles or grandparents. She also knows that some families have one kid (like ours) or many kids. There's no one-size-fits-all family; one kind of family is no inherently better than any other.
2012-08-07 12:10:03 AM  
1 vote:
blueviking

....Have you even READ Leviticus? There's about 6(give or take a few) total verses about what men can and cannot have sex with. Your own biblical ignorance has rendered your argument invalid and people are now free to ignore you without so much as a second thought to any POSSIBLY sane po ...

About to bring this one up myself - Leviticus 18:22 ""Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."


Leviticus was a man. I don't worship men. OK, I'm going to start over.

Leviticus is not a God. Nor is he the Son of God. I don't worship Leviticus. He has no superpowers, did not create the Universe or Men - gay or otherwise, and really I don't even know why people keep referrencing him. He (supposedly) said one sentence, in a Bible thick as a phone book, and we're supposed to think THAT is what the entire book teaches us? Really?
2012-08-06 11:59:06 PM  
1 vote:

What_do_you_want_now: studebaker hoch: ciberido

I can't believe I'm doing this, defending a position I disagree with....

....Have you even READ Leviticus? There's about 6(give or take a few) total verses about what men can and cannot have sex with. Your own biblical ignorance has rendered your argument invalid and people are now free to ignore you without so much as a second thought to any POSSIBLY sane po ...


About to bring this one up myself - Leviticus 18:22 ""Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

/not Christian
//of course, pretty much everything is a sin after you've read Leviticus, or anything that "Paul" wrote
///sorry, but I enjoy being able to wear blended clothing, drink, eat shellfish and tell my male colleagues to fark off when they're being douches
2012-08-06 11:50:42 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: Not surprising. Even though I'm trying to be more open-minded about human sexuality, I have to admit, there is... a switch that gets "thrown" if you will when you see two dudes kissing. I don't think the Bible can be properly interpreted to damn gays and lesbians. It's not a religious prejudice. It just... is. Maybe it's surprise that such things actually do happen. Straight men (and society at large) don't get to see much homosexual interaction on a daily basis; such individuals make up a rather paltry 11% of the population the last time I checked. Maybe guys are just conditioned to see male and female acting affectionate towards each other. I think it's also hard for a straight guy to grasp the idea of being attracted to another man.

I don't like that the switch gets thrown and reason it out in my head that it is explainable (and benign) behavior, but there is a moment of pause when you see that sort of thing or consider it. Anyone else get what I'm talking about? Maybe I can figure this out and get over it.


Yes, but straight men such as myself do see god awful ugly or old people kiss sometimes. That's a big boner killer right there.
2012-08-06 11:37:30 PM  
1 vote:

Lemmon714: The worst part is, when same-sex marriage is finally legalized, they're still not going to stop. Legal equality will not be enough. They're after moral equivalence. And they will continue their attempts to silence those who do not agree with their position.

They will not stop trying until they change the worldview that has been held for the entirety of human civilization. Legal acceptance of their behaviours will not satisfy them. They will continue to intrude on people and institutions with deeply held beliefs, and call them bigots for holding such beliefs.

Such beliefs are not strictly a Christian or religious ideal. Homosexual relationships have existed forever. But they are not the equivalent of marriage. They are not the foundation for a family or a society. Being a biological dead-end, they are outside of the natural law, and that can never be changed.

It is not bigoted to believe such behaviour is outside of the natural law, or that it should not be codified into the legal system. Legal marriage is the recognition of the natural order. That is why heterosexual marriage has existed for all of human history. Homosexual marriage is outside of the natural order. That is why it has never been legally endorsed. Not until our generation, which has the prideful, arrogant audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.

Still, go ahead. Get "married". Seek all those other rights you feel you don't have today.
But shut up already with insisting homosexual relationships are equally valid.
The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God say differently.


"Connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them should be prohibited by positive law and be subject to no evasion." Something like that, right?


Cause that came from 19th century Virginia, relating to interracial marriage...
2012-08-06 11:31:48 PM  
1 vote:

Marine1: Not surprising. Even though I'm trying to be more open-minded about human sexuality, I have to admit, there is... a switch that gets "thrown" if you will when you see two dudes kissing. I don't think the Bible can be properly interpreted to damn gays and lesbians. It's not a religious prejudice. It just... is. Maybe it's surprise that such things actually do happen. Straight men (and society at large) don't get to see much homosexual interaction on a daily basis; such individuals make up a rather paltry 11% of the population the last time I checked. Maybe guys are just conditioned to see male and female acting affectionate towards each other. I think it's also hard for a straight guy to grasp the idea of being attracted to another man.

I don't like that the switch gets thrown and reason it out in my head that it is explainable (and benign) behavior, but there is a moment of pause when you see that sort of thing or consider it. Anyone else get what I'm talking about? Maybe I can figure this out and get over it.


Agreed. Two dudes kissing is a total turn-off. I really wish they'd stop putting it in all the porn I watch.

No, seriously though, the problem is one of hegemonic masculinity. Homosexuality is more of a challenge to that power structure than any woman having power.
2012-08-06 11:28:09 PM  
1 vote:

Lemmon714: The worst part is, when same-sex marriage is finally legalized, they're still not going to stop. Legal equality will not be enough. They're after moral equivalence. And they will continue their attempts to silence those who do not agree with their position.


Yep. You figured out our top-secret gay agenda.
dropbox.am0.co.uk
Listen, and understand. The gay community is out there. We can't be bargained with. We can't be reasoned with. We don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And we absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are fabulous!
2012-08-06 11:17:15 PM  
1 vote:
Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

This comes up in almost every thread about homosexuality. I really ought to just start pasting in a standard response. But I guess I'll type something out by hand again for now: Notice how, once again, it's the straight men who obsess over anal sex. Gay men actually don't talk about it nearly as much as the straights do.

You guys really, really, really like thinking about people's rectums (or maybe your own rectums). NTTAWWT, but honestly, I wish you'd go find yourself a nice rentboy and satisfy that curiosity or craving or whatever it is once and for all, so you'd shut up about it.
2012-08-06 11:04:15 PM  
1 vote:
Not surprising that it's Tasmania that may be the first Australian state to legalize same-sex marriage. The Greens have a lot of support there. Tasmanians are also open supporters of the Devil:
www.tasmaniandevils.net.au

/meanwhile,here in Western Australia there is no registry for LGBT couples
//even Queensland, the Florida of Australia, has a registry
2012-08-06 10:59:17 PM  
1 vote:

CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.


I've been saying this exact same thing for years.
2012-08-06 10:47:49 PM  
1 vote:

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


I'm a woman, and I got less than nothing from my divorce; I ended up with tens of thousands of dollars of his debt.

\he refused to get a job because he wanted the time to focus on his "music career," jam with his band, and drink beer
\\good riddance
2012-08-06 10:45:05 PM  
1 vote:

studebaker hoch: Mutual love is The Best Thing in life.


Disagrees:
t3.gstatic.com
2012-08-06 10:28:54 PM  
1 vote:
I'm OK with ANY marriage, provided the government is not involved.

Wanna marry your toaster? Do it.
2012-08-06 10:15:20 PM  
1 vote:

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


Plenty of straights do anal and plenty of gays don't. Try again.
2012-08-06 10:06:19 PM  
1 vote:

CujoQuarrel: 2 Replies: CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.

So you can only marry if your religious then?
Congratulations. You've failed to solve the problem.
You've just changed those you're discriminating against from homosexuals to atheists and agnostics.
Theists don't have a monopoly on marriage.

Make up your own religion. Or have an civil ceremony. Who cares. Just don't get the government involved.


That's already the case. Marriage is already a purely civil matter in America. The only intersection between religion and marriage is that the state allows officials of government recognized religions to sign on as a witness on a marriage license. It could just as easily be a judge or notary. We're already out of religious marriage.
2012-08-06 09:48:06 PM  
1 vote:

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


You do realize you don't have to be left out of the action as women also have rectums too. One can only hope that you are a considerate lover and wash your peener once in a while before hopping in the sack with your lover.
2012-08-06 09:39:59 PM  
1 vote:

2 Replies: CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.

So you can only marry if your religious then?
Congratulations. You've failed to solve the problem.
You've just changed those you're discriminating against from homosexuals to atheists and agnostics.
Theists don't have a monopoly on marriage.


Make up your own religion. Or have an civil ceremony. Who cares. Just don't get the government involved.
2012-08-06 09:37:55 PM  
1 vote:

blueviking: Zizzowop: I look forward to the day when we don't have to talk about this stupid issue anymore. Having said that, I don't see why anyone would even want to get married today. My friend just got married, and all I see is the cost of one single day.

I can see where you're coming from in regards to the big spectacles that go for $26,000 (actually, I think that's the average now, jeebus), but, if you do it right, it doesn't need to be anything more than a big party with family, friends, good food and booze, and it won't run any more than a few grand. My husband and I did it that way, and it was a great time. My sister-in-law wanted the fairy-tale wedding, which didn't get quite as spectacular as she (read: my brother's MIL) wanted, but still, it was an enormous production that I was glad never to have to do. My brother and SIL made it through alright and enjoyed themselves, so, meh, to each his/her own.

That being said, yes, I hope we'll look back on this and think "wow, how stupid was that debate."


Yeah, I don't know how or when weddings got out of control on costs, it's just so crazy to me, I don't blame people for running off to Vegas to get married, I have no issues with that, it's more of the commercial aspect of it. I hope it gets better.
2012-08-06 09:32:05 PM  
1 vote:

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


Nope, my mum was left with a broken fridge, two bean bag chairs, and her Volkswagen Rabbit in the divorce from her first hubby and a mortgage that he "forgot" to tell her he hadn't paid in three months. Granted this was 1980...and she did just want to get the hell out.
2012-08-06 09:28:06 PM  
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Zizzowop: I look forward to the day when we don't have to talk about this stupid issue anymore. Having said that, I don't see why anyone would even want to get married today. My friend just got married, and all I see is the cost of one single day.


I can see where you're coming from in regards to the big spectacles that go for $26,000 (actually, I think that's the average now, jeebus), but, if you do it right, it doesn't need to be anything more than a big party with family, friends, good food and booze, and it won't run any more than a few grand. My husband and I did it that way, and it was a great time. My sister-in-law wanted the fairy-tale wedding, which didn't get quite as spectacular as she (read: my brother's MIL) wanted, but still, it was an enormous production that I was glad never to have to do. My brother and SIL made it through alright and enjoyed themselves, so, meh, to each his/her own.

That being said, yes, I hope we'll look back on this and think "wow, how stupid was that debate."
2012-08-06 09:20:29 PM  
1 vote:

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


I'm guessing he either had nothing, or for the sake of expediancy, you expected nothing. Sometimes it's just better that way.

Unless there were kids involved. In that case: what the hell were you thinking? It would be within your legal rights to fire bomb your lawyer's house if he agreed to this.
2012-08-06 09:20:23 PM  
1 vote:
I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.
2012-08-06 09:16:20 PM  
1 vote:
I look forward to the day when we don't have to talk about this stupid issue anymore. Having said that, I don't see why anyone would even want to get married today. My friend just got married, and all I see is the cost of one single day.
2012-08-06 09:15:29 PM  
1 vote:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Arkanaut: Those that are "less supportive" probably don't want other men to treat them the way they treat women.

/not my line, not sure where it came from

That line isn't making sense.


Blech.
2012-08-06 09:14:46 PM  
1 vote:

URAPNIS: The whole marriage thing is complete bullshiat anyway.


I like it.

Doesn't mean it's for everyone. It may not even be for me in the future. But it has a purpose, which can be positive and productive.

Marriage... Is like... a gun. Limited number of useful reasons to use one, and most idiots end up shooting themselves (or someone else).
2012-08-06 09:13:59 PM  
1 vote:

Kurmudgeon: Znuh: Fark all this hatred, religious assery and bigotry.

And yes you separate the religious out for special hatred.
Prejudice begins with thinking that all of a group are the same.


I believe I singled out three items:

*Hatred

*Religious Assery

*Bigotry

However, if you're happy to let your tiny brain generalize, as you just did, it's your problem. And your ignorance.
2012-08-06 09:12:49 PM  
1 vote:
People may claim they are doing this out of a level of respect for the sanctity of marriage, but in the end it's a money issue. Equality under the law means homosexuals get the same tax breaks and insurance benefits as straight couples. Companies that have to worry about dependents are fighting gay marriage on these issues alone.
2012-08-06 09:11:14 PM  
1 vote:

Znuh: Fark all this hatred, religious assery and bigotry.


And yes you separate the religious out for special hatred.
Prejudice begins with thinking that all of a group are the same.
2012-08-06 09:08:08 PM  
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I will believe that when there is a group called One Million Dads. The few people I know that are against gay marriage, at least admit it, are women. One of which is black and married to a white man. I love pointing out that it wasn't so long ago she would not have been allowed to marry her husband she is too dense to get it though. I live in the gayest town in Gaystonia though I only have 4 straight neighbors within 100 yards of me so YMMV.
2012-08-06 09:06:30 PM  
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Those that are "less supportive" probably don't want other men to treat them the way the treat women.

/not my line, not sure where it came from
2012-08-06 09:02:16 PM  
1 vote:

BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.


I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P
2012-08-06 09:01:31 PM  
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rubi_con_man: Capo Del Bandito: Statistically, in the US, isn't more than half of normal folks fark it up?

No. half of all marriages. That means that many many people fark it up and then go for another marriage ... then another ...

It's about 20% of people who do 50% of the divorcin'


I was told there would be no math here.

I dunno. I imagine lotta folks get jaded after that marriage and prefer not to do it again.
2012-08-06 08:59:52 PM  
1 vote:

LarryDan43: Males less supportive of gay marriage


Came here to say this, pleased to find it top 3.

Indubitably: Indubitably: gtfan92: Indubitably: gtfan92: Indubitably: Wrong.

This straight male is FOR marriage for all, plebs.

You aren't for reading comprehension skills, obviously.

/DNRTFA

But you read the Fark headline, yes?

Yeah,

Where's the disconnect, asshole?

You?

Please elucidate.


I don't get why you keep quoting & replying to your own posts.

Anyway, I think the idea here is that the headline says "Males" less supportive of gay marriage.

You said you supported it, and said "wrong," as if the headline was invalidated by your support.

But the article says "Males," not "All Males."

Therefore your support has no effect on the veracity of the headline, or the article backing it, so long as 2 or more males are "less supportive" of gay marriage (than women, I assume, DNRTFA).

To be slightly less nitpicky, I think the headline means that statistically, fewer men are supportive of gay marriage than women, and/or are less strongly supportive. Neither of which are markedly impacted by your personal stance, ergo why stating "wrong" was incorrect and you were called on your reading comprehension.
2012-08-06 08:59:45 PM  
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Capo Del Bandito: Statistically, in the US, isn't more than half of normal folks fark it up?


No. half of all marriages. That means that many many people fark it up and then go for another marriage ... then another ...

It's about 20% of people who do 50% of the divorcin'
2012-08-06 08:58:39 PM  
1 vote:

KrispyKritter: you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.

in this the 18th year of a loveless shell of matrimonial suffering, i can only agree. while i slowly save my pennies for the day i can afford Divorce Lawyer. as i look forward to once again being in the company of women who still have sex. some day.

/bitter, married to a coont
//does it show?


I'm a divorce lawyer (well, it's 10% of my practice) and you could easily afford my services. You just might not be able to afford the payout to your wife (and 18 years is a big payout)

/But if you live in CO or GA I can make it happen
2012-08-06 08:58:01 PM  
1 vote:
Males less supportive of gay marriage.

FTFY
2012-08-06 08:54:51 PM  
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Capo Del Bandito: gingerjet: URAPNIS: The whole marriage thing is complete bullshiat anyway.

Just because you are divorced, working in a dead end job, and paying two thirds of your salary in child support doesn't mean the rest of us will fark it up.

Statistically, in the US, isn't more than half of normal folks fark it up?


No, because divorced people can keeping getting divorced. A married couple stays a married couple for life.

For example, eight couples have to stay together for life to equal one Liz Taylor.
2012-08-06 08:54:43 PM  
1 vote:

KrispyKritter: you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.

in this the 18th year of a loveless shell of matrimonial suffering, i can only agree. while i slowly save my pennies for the day i can afford Divorce Lawyer. as i look forward to once again being in the company of women who still have sex. some day.

/bitter, married to a coont
//does it show?


Every year you are just getting older. Get out while you still have a life left to live.
2012-08-06 08:54:38 PM  
1 vote:

radarlove: gingerjet: radarlove: I'm anti government involvement in any form of religious ceremony, no matter what religion or who is participating.

So atheists who get married by a judge aren't married? A couple married by a ship captain aren't married? Or a notary public? Or a star fleet admiral in Vegas?

/marriage isn't a religious ceremony

Atheism is a religion.


-1/10

/not really trying are you?
2012-08-06 08:54:16 PM  
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you are a puppet: diaphoresis: you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.

No you don't.

-3/10

-7/10


.386/-10
2012-08-06 08:53:52 PM  
1 vote:
And?

You are going to see this with the Conservative male.

You do realize that if Gay Marriage becomes legal everywhere their boyfriend will then want them to divorce their wives to marry them!
2012-08-06 08:53:37 PM  
1 vote:
It's a failure of marketing for pro-gay rights groups. They've let gay be primarily associated with sweaty man on man action. Women might be kinda okay with that but straight dudes aren't. If the first thing people thought of when they thought "gay" was two or three hot lesbians making out it would be a totally different story.
2012-08-06 08:52:29 PM  
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darkedgefan: I am not surprised. There are only two types of men in this world. Gays and homophobes. I just don't get the gay lifestyle. How can you look at another man's hairy a$$ and find love? Stay in the closet!


gays in the pre-life were brainwashed by Satan in rape/pedo chambers in the 5th CIRCLE OF HELL. all because they forgot to wash their hands before cooking their beef.
2012-08-06 08:51:55 PM  
1 vote:

gingerjet: URAPNIS: The whole marriage thing is complete bullshiat anyway.

Just because you are divorced, working in a dead end job, and paying two thirds of your salary in child support doesn't mean the rest of us will fark it up.


Statistically, in the US, isn't more than half of normal folks fark it up?
2012-08-06 08:50:51 PM  
1 vote:

darkedgefan: I am not surprised. There are only two types of men in this world. Gays and homophobes. I just don't get the gay lifestyle. How can you look at another man's hairy a$$ and find love? Stay in the closet!


I live with my mom
2012-08-06 08:50:32 PM  
1 vote:
I'm for whatever makes consenting adults happy. I'm also for less universal things but allowing consenting adults to do as they please is enough.
2012-08-06 08:48:18 PM  
1 vote:
Not surprising since it is womenfolk's fault that people are gay.
2012-08-06 08:48:08 PM  
1 vote:

Thanks for the Meme-ries: [i291.photobucket.com image 480x360]

I'm still up twenty-five grand the last time I stick it in you!

/gud jorb subby


vant a cooookie?
2012-08-06 08:47:40 PM  
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I am not surprised. There are only two types of men in this world. Gays and homophobes. I just don't get the gay lifestyle. How can you look at another man's hairy a$$ and find love? Stay in the closet!
2012-08-06 08:46:08 PM  
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But if two men marry, how will the courts completely screw one over in the name of "gender equality".
2012-08-06 08:42:03 PM  
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what is 'gay marriage' and how does it differ from NORMAL marriage?

seriously.
 
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