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2012-08-06 09:26:51 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: thisisyourbrainonFark: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 482x557]

fark gay marriage i wanna marry drugz like crack cocaine


Then you can take bath salts together!
 
2012-08-06 09:28:06 PM

Zizzowop: I look forward to the day when we don't have to talk about this stupid issue anymore. Having said that, I don't see why anyone would even want to get married today. My friend just got married, and all I see is the cost of one single day.


I can see where you're coming from in regards to the big spectacles that go for $26,000 (actually, I think that's the average now, jeebus), but, if you do it right, it doesn't need to be anything more than a big party with family, friends, good food and booze, and it won't run any more than a few grand. My husband and I did it that way, and it was a great time. My sister-in-law wanted the fairy-tale wedding, which didn't get quite as spectacular as she (read: my brother's MIL) wanted, but still, it was an enormous production that I was glad never to have to do. My brother and SIL made it through alright and enjoyed themselves, so, meh, to each his/her own.

That being said, yes, I hope we'll look back on this and think "wow, how stupid was that debate."
 
2012-08-06 09:30:40 PM

CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.


Japan does it this way. You apply for a marriage license (like applying for a driver's license), pay the taxes and application fees. Three bangs of a rubber stamp later and you're married. NEXT! It takes about twenty minutes or so to sink before you realize what you have just done. Marriage ceremonies are optional but not required. I'm sure finding a religious leader willing to preside would not be to difficult at this point as the marriage would already have been recognized by the government anyways.
 
2012-08-06 09:31:36 PM
In fairness, males are more likely to know how to use a dictionary.
 
2012-08-06 09:32:05 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


Nope, my mum was left with a broken fridge, two bean bag chairs, and her Volkswagen Rabbit in the divorce from her first hubby and a mortgage that he "forgot" to tell her he hadn't paid in three months. Granted this was 1980...and she did just want to get the hell out.
 
2012-08-06 09:32:07 PM

Indubitably: Wrong.

This straight male is FOR marriage for all, plebs.


You're a bit out of character today.
 
2012-08-06 09:36:01 PM
Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!
 
2012-08-06 09:37:06 PM

Pantubo: In fairness, males are more likely to know how to use a dictionary.


ass sex
 
2012-08-06 09:37:18 PM

Korzine: But if two men marry, how will the courts completely screw one over in the name of "gender equality".


Face it, if you're lonely and broke from paying child support, it's your fault. The secret to a happy marriage is to compliment her at every opportunity, buy her flowers, and do what she tells you to do. That's easy even for a completely narcissistic lazy person. Your stupid ideas aren't going to make you happy; they're just going to make you lonely and broke from paying child support.
 
2012-08-06 09:37:55 PM

blueviking: Zizzowop: I look forward to the day when we don't have to talk about this stupid issue anymore. Having said that, I don't see why anyone would even want to get married today. My friend just got married, and all I see is the cost of one single day.

I can see where you're coming from in regards to the big spectacles that go for $26,000 (actually, I think that's the average now, jeebus), but, if you do it right, it doesn't need to be anything more than a big party with family, friends, good food and booze, and it won't run any more than a few grand. My husband and I did it that way, and it was a great time. My sister-in-law wanted the fairy-tale wedding, which didn't get quite as spectacular as she (read: my brother's MIL) wanted, but still, it was an enormous production that I was glad never to have to do. My brother and SIL made it through alright and enjoyed themselves, so, meh, to each his/her own.

That being said, yes, I hope we'll look back on this and think "wow, how stupid was that debate."


Yeah, I don't know how or when weddings got out of control on costs, it's just so crazy to me, I don't blame people for running off to Vegas to get married, I have no issues with that, it's more of the commercial aspect of it. I hope it gets better.
 
2012-08-06 09:39:59 PM

2 Replies: CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.

So you can only marry if your religious then?
Congratulations. You've failed to solve the problem.
You've just changed those you're discriminating against from homosexuals to atheists and agnostics.
Theists don't have a monopoly on marriage.


Make up your own religion. Or have an civil ceremony. Who cares. Just don't get the government involved.
 
2012-08-06 09:40:26 PM

Pantubo: Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!


Jesies! You can have gay marriage and you're complaining already? We don't play favorites here. If I can't marry my sister- you can't marry your brother.
 
2012-08-06 09:41:31 PM

Antagonism: Indubitably: Wrong.

This straight male is FOR marriage for all, plebs.

You're a bit out of character today.


*hmmph*
 
2012-08-06 09:41:37 PM

Pantubo: Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!


You really have to wonder about people who bring up shiat like this.

Reminds me of the Baptist minister who said to his Unitarian-Universalist minister friend: "Since you don't believe in divine retribution, you could commit murder or rape without worrying about its effect on your immortal soul." The Unitarian replied, "Yes, but the idea of doing something like that would never occur to me."
 
2012-08-06 09:42:25 PM
"We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!
 
2012-08-06 09:43:20 PM

Pantubo: Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring
are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!


Huh?
2 guys are going to procreate, all by themselves?
 
2012-08-06 09:44:15 PM

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


Vaginal excretions are more "noble"?
 
2012-08-06 09:44:33 PM
what about rape marriages

it's what the bible offers. all you have to do is pick up the book and pray
praise Jesus.

/and rape
 
2012-08-06 09:44:42 PM

RnR: No one gives a damn about a woman's right to cover herself in raspberry jam and send a random stranger pictures of said act along with a basket of fresh baked muffin


[zip] Go on ....
 
2012-08-06 09:45:36 PM

Indubitably: Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!

Vaginal excretions are more "noble"?


Mind you, I've had these on my face many times, and I'm troubling to find how they were "noble," man...
 
2012-08-06 09:46:24 PM

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


HELLO? gay marriage isn't real. it's a hoax created by hollywood. like Tom Cruise.
 
2012-08-06 09:48:06 PM

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


You do realize you don't have to be left out of the action as women also have rectums too. One can only hope that you are a considerate lover and wash your peener once in a while before hopping in the sack with your lover.
 
2012-08-06 09:49:48 PM
instead of going to Christian Church gays can go to

images.businessweek.com
 
2012-08-06 09:53:16 PM

Pantubo: Serious question:

If two men can get married, why on Earth couldn't a man marry his own brother?

You can't tell me that their offspring are going to be at seriously increased risk of birth defects, which is why a man can't marry his own sister.

So how about it? Enlighten me with your progressive tolerant wisdom. Hop to it!


How did you figure out how to use a computer? Did someone help you type that?
 
2012-08-06 09:57:44 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: instead of going to Christian Church gays can go to

[images.businessweek.com image 600x350]


"A" for effort, but "D" for follow-through. So it averages to a C+, so I guess you still pass.
 
2012-08-06 10:00:16 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: what is 'gay marriage' and how does it differ from NORMAL marriage?

seriously.


Silly goose. Everyone knows that gay marriages are FAR more fabulous than normal marriages...
 
2012-08-06 10:01:46 PM

diaphoresis: you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.

No you don't.

-3/10


Now that I'm divorced, I'm completely in favor of our government banning marriage for straight people.
 
2012-08-06 10:01:50 PM

digitalrain: Jon iz teh kewl: what is 'gay marriage' and how does it differ from NORMAL marriage?

seriously.

Silly goose. Everyone knows that gay marriages are FAR more fabulous than normal marriages...


so fabulous you don't even need a normal family tree
 
2012-08-06 10:06:19 PM

CujoQuarrel: 2 Replies: CujoQuarrel: I say get rid of government recognized marriage altogether and just have 'civil unions' for any two non-related adult people instead. Then 'marriage' is just between you and your religion.

So you can only marry if your religious then?
Congratulations. You've failed to solve the problem.
You've just changed those you're discriminating against from homosexuals to atheists and agnostics.
Theists don't have a monopoly on marriage.

Make up your own religion. Or have an civil ceremony. Who cares. Just don't get the government involved.


That's already the case. Marriage is already a purely civil matter in America. The only intersection between religion and marriage is that the state allows officials of government recognized religions to sign on as a witness on a marriage license. It could just as easily be a judge or notary. We're already out of religious marriage.
 
2012-08-06 10:12:55 PM

Thanks for the Meme-ries: I'm still up twenty-five grand the last time I stick it in you!

/gud jorb subby


Man that was a bad accent, hated that role for him made me cringe.

And most males don't give a shiat, if you're straight that just means more women are free, personally I don't care and its not a big issue for me at all.

Sick of idiots making it a political issue since it only affects about 10-15% of the population. But then its one of the topics they use to inflame the masses to keep the people fighting amongst themselves so they don't really pay attention to what they are doing.
 
2012-08-06 10:12:59 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


Other than my kid (he was the only thing I wanted), I asked for (and got) nothing. Courts ordered
my ex to pay a measly $56 / week in child support, which I haven't seen in over 11 years. I would
have taken him to court over it, except that my son has enough emotional issues without being told
that his mom sent his dad to jail (and that is exactly how my ex would spin it).

You won't believe the screaming matches I had with my *mother* over why I wasn't taking him to
the cleaners during the divorce. She just didn't get that all I wanted was to be away and safe and
to not have the threat of him taking my son away from me used as a way to keep me in line.
 
2012-08-06 10:14:29 PM

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement.


cdn0.hark.com

Wants to party with you.
 
2012-08-06 10:15:18 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: Znuh: The 21st century was supposed to be about awesome and a new age of reason. Fark all this hatred, religious assery and bigotry.

This was an Australian poll, so I'm going to assume that it's less about religious bigotry (we don't have nearly as many crazy-ass fundamentalists here) and more about sexual insecurity. God knows they're threatened enough by me, and I even don't have a dick to be threatened by.


Yep. This poll reflects the percentages of either gender in Australia who regularly or occasionally viewed episodes of Will and Grace. Nothing more, nothing less. Biden was on the money. Aussie blokes are generally macho (and have the associated insecurities) but the more intelligent half of that group recognise that allowing gay marriage and making it compulsory for all are not the same thing.
 
2012-08-06 10:15:20 PM

Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!


Plenty of straights do anal and plenty of gays don't. Try again.
 
2012-08-06 10:20:02 PM

Indubitably: clevernamehere:
I don't get why you keep quoting & replying to your own posts.

Anyway, I think the idea here is that the headline says "Males" less supportive of gay marriage.

You said you supported it, and said "wrong," as if the headline was invalidated by your support.

But the article says "Males," not "All Males."

Therefore your support has no effect on the veracity of the headline, or the article backing it, so long as 2 or more males are "less supportive" of gay marriage (than women, I assume, DNRTFA).

To be slightly less nitpicky, I think the headline means that statistically, fewer men are supportive of gay marriage than women, and/or are less strongly supportive. Neither of which are markedly impacted by your personal stance, ergo why stating "wrong" was incorrect and you were called on your reading comprehension.

Punctuation much?


Sure, I like punctuation. And I guess there is "much" of it when I use multiple sentences. Unless you mean I did something wrong? in which case, try using more words so I know that's what you mean. Also, perhaps you might point out specifically what the problem is?

AND, thanks for the play-by-play, by the way, I find your deconstruction lacking on many levels, mostly assumed, but what else is new, no? You 'overly-primed' are obvious, really. And sort of *too hard?* You might might want to DeViagra as you DeHate, man. Your mates will thank you later...?

Is... is that English?

Is "overly-primed" a plural noun? Or an adjective with no subject? What the hell does it mean anyway?

BTW, nice use of apostrophes AND asterisks in place of quotations in the same sentence.

"Too hard" and "DeViagra?"

...are you talking about my boner? Some kind of... Hate-Boner?

/I need an adult
 
2012-08-06 10:20:07 PM

12349876: Stinkyy: "We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement. And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!

Plenty of straights do anal and plenty of gays don't. Try again.


hurp e durp durp
the only reason we're on here is because certain drugs are illegal
 
2012-08-06 10:23:45 PM
I have just never looked at a guys hairy ass and thought, "man, I gotta have some of that." But then what about the lesbians? Let them get married, we weren't getting any of that any way.
 
2012-08-06 10:24:36 PM

clevernamehere: Indubitably: clevernamehere:
I don't get why you keep quoting & replying to your own posts.

Anyway, I think the idea here is that the headline says "Males" less supportive of gay marriage.

You said you supported it, and said "wrong," as if the headline was invalidated by your support.

But the article says "Males," not "All Males."

Therefore your support has no effect on the veracity of the headline, or the article backing it, so long as 2 or more males are "less supportive" of gay marriage (than women, I assume, DNRTFA).

To be slightly less nitpicky, I think the headline means that statistically, fewer men are supportive of gay marriage than women, and/or are less strongly supportive. Neither of which are markedly impacted by your personal stance, ergo why stating "wrong" was incorrect and you were called on your reading comprehension.

Punctuation much?

Sure, I like punctuation. And I guess there is "much" of it when I use multiple sentences. Unless you mean I did something wrong? in which case, try using more words so I know that's what you mean. Also, perhaps you might point out specifically what the problem is?

AND, thanks for the play-by-play, by the way, I find your deconstruction lacking on many levels, mostly assumed, but what else is new, no? You 'overly-primed' are obvious, really. And sort of *too hard?* You might might want to DeViagra as you DeHate, man. Your mates will thank you later...?

Is... is that English?

Is "overly-primed" a plural noun? Or an adjective with no subject? What the hell does it mean anyway?

BTW, nice use of apostrophes AND asterisks in place of quotations in the same sentence.

"Too hard" and "DeViagra?"

...are you talking about my boner? Some kind of... Hate-Boner?

/I need an adult


"It's going to be okay, sir, you are just experiencing what we call disillusionment via schooling; please just sit down, breathe, and find a happy place."
 
2012-08-06 10:25:07 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: BobBoxBody: I think most men are becoming less supportive of marriage overall. Holy Christ have you seen divorce laws? Can't blame men for killing themselves when they have to spend the rest of their lives paying alimony to women who work and paying child support to kids who aren't theirs.

I really am the only woman on Earth who got literally nothing in my divorce, aren't I? :P


No, no you're not :(
If you're like me and went backwards then that's not uncommon. I lost a lot of money but gained freedom.
 
2012-08-06 10:27:50 PM

Znuh: However, if you're happy to let your tiny brain generalize, as you just did, it's your problem. And your ignorance.


Just don't put on any orange wigs anytime soon, Ok Znuh?
 
2012-08-06 10:28:50 PM

Indubitably:

"It's going to be okay, sir, you are just experiencing what we call disillusionment via schooling; please just sit down, breathe, and find a happy place."


Who are you quoting? And why don't you answer the questions asked of you? And why do you reply to your own posts so much?

/why DeHate when I can DeLorean?
 
2012-08-06 10:28:54 PM
I'm OK with ANY marriage, provided the government is not involved.

Wanna marry your toaster? Do it.
 
2012-08-06 10:30:11 PM

diaphoresis: Atheism is a form of religion


Wow, that made my brain hurt. I blame the Buddhists.

/I always blame the Buddhists
//but this time it's for reals
 
2012-08-06 10:35:35 PM

odinsposse: It's a failure of marketing for pro-gay rights groups. They've let gay be primarily associated with sweaty man on man action. Women might be kinda okay with that but straight dudes aren't. If the first thing people thought of when they thought "gay" was two or three hot lesbians making out it would be a totally different story.


Fun fact: Lesbianism was never illegal in New Zealand, only male-male homosexuality (because buggery, that's why). It's probably the same pretty much everywhere.

Everyone's obsessed with guys sticking things up each other's butts (never mind plenty of heteros do it too). Presumably men think that given the right circumstances it could accidentally happen to them. Whoops, how did that get up there and why does it feel good?

A hetero coming back from Vegas gay married after a wasted weekend would be pretty damn funny though, buggery or no.
 
2012-08-06 10:37:07 PM
Stinkyy

"We're talking about taking the penis of a man and putting it in the rectum of another man and wriggling it around in excrement.

Most guys know how to take care of themselves, but if that ever happens, you STOP and throw his skanky ass in the shower. Yikes.

And you have to think, would I want that to be done to me?"

I don't think I've ever once heard a gay man complain that the sex was bad. On the contrary. In fact, when you get into religious issues such as Intelligent Design, you have to wonder *why* an all-knowing God would create Man in His Own Image, with the ability to boink each other and have so much fun doing it that the worst thing that happens to them is that they eventually notice that the sky is getting lighter and they've run out of night....again. God didn't have to build us that way, but he did. What gives? We think God is pretty cool.

But it's sooooo noble! They're in luuuuuv! Hey normal men everywhere! Isn't this so beautiful!

Mutual love is The Best Thing in life. I hope you get to experience it someday.
 
2012-08-06 10:40:00 PM

diaphoresis:
....
Atheism is a form of religion


Well linked/cited, but I don't accept the court's decision on pretty basic philosophical grounds (legalities be farked) and as someone living on the opposite side of the Pacific to that courtroom, it has no jurisdiction over me in any case.

Which is just as well because I'd consider emigrating from a country which judged atheism to be a religion.
 
2012-08-06 10:40:09 PM

Lando Lincoln: diaphoresis: you are a puppet: I wish marriage was ONLY for gays.

No you don't.

-3/10

Now that I'm divorced, I'm completely in favor of our government banning marriage for straight people.


ROFLMAO
 
2012-08-06 10:45:05 PM

studebaker hoch: Mutual love is The Best Thing in life.


Disagrees:
t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-06 10:46:21 PM

studebaker hoch: In fact, when you get into religious issues such as Intelligent Design, you have to wonder *why* an all-knowing God would create Man in His Own Image, with the ability to boink each other and have so much fun doing it that the worst thing that happens to them is that they eventually notice that the sky is getting lighter and they've run out of night....again.


And that AIDS thing has to be a bummer.
 
2012-08-06 10:47:49 PM

trappedspirit: studebaker hoch: In fact, when you get into religious issues such as Intelligent Design, you have to wonder *why* an all-knowing God would create Man in His Own Image, with the ability to boink each other and have so much fun doing it that the worst thing that happens to them is that they eventually notice that the sky is getting lighter and they've run out of night....again.

And that AIDS thing has to be a bummer.


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