Apos: All in favor of Louisana tag,say aye.



I'll start: AYE!

Nay. I get the feeling, but this is just one story. Florida has several bizarre-as-hell stories all the time, at all levels of politics and society. I can almost see Arizona, but nobody really reaches the sheer level of insanity that Florida exudes.

Lawnchair: number8: Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Yeah, like Satanic_Hamster said, that's standard boilerplate at almost every school, public or private, in the US since about 1985. Sad as all hell, if you ask me, but ubiquitous.

I've never heard of such draconian rules outside of religious schools. My public high school's policy was basically no making out or farking. People hugged and kissed all the time. Making out was overlooked for prom though. I mean... kids aren't even allowed to lean against one another?? That's stupid.

Kept waiting to see that this was a catholic school.

Unfarkingbelievable that it was a public school. Sad and disgusting.

Counter_Intelligent: A shame that tax dollars are going to this school. Thanks, Bobby Jindal, you fark-up.

The left needs to demand 100% compliance with the claims that the right makes re: vouchers. 1 pregnant girl is too many to justify tax payer dollars be spent on this crap.

DjangoStonereaver: I had to pick up some stuff for my mom at her local Dollar Store, and at the checkout counter they had 1-shot
drug test kits (for marijuana).

For $1 apiece.

WTF?

It's a dollar store. Not sure why you are confused.

number8: Also seen when looking through the student policy manual:

The school uses corproal punishment

Any "teacher, director, administrator or school security guard" can search a student (pat down) or their locker or car if they say they have a reasonable suspicion that they have some kind of contraband. This includes "nitrate based inhalants". (So... no going to school after going to the supermarket and purchasing Redi Whip?)

Male students are not allowed to have earrings or any other piercings. Female student can have one piercing in each ear, that's it. Men can't have hair below the shirt collar.

So, no pubic hair? Do they check?

number8: Male students are not allowed to have earrings or any other piercings. Female student can have one piercing in each ear, that's it. Men can't have hair below the shirt collar.

So they make guys shave their balls? How do they check that without getting in trouble? Seems like the ACLU has more things to be worried about than whores getting pregnant.

Excellent use of the semi-colon, subby.

Bravo.

Atharaenea: Lawnchair: number8: Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Yeah, like Satanic_Hamster said, that's standard boilerplate at almost every school, public or private, in the US since about 1985. Sad as all hell, if you ask me, but ubiquitous.

I've never heard of such draconian rules outside of religious schools. My public high school's policy was basically no making out or farking. People hugged and kissed all the time. Making out was overlooked for prom though. I mean... kids aren't even allowed to lean against one another?? That's stupid.

That's just the rules as written. In practice, they aren't enforced so as to be all that much different from when you were in school. They just phrase the actual code more restrictively so as to head off unforeseen loopholes.

Endive Wombat: So the girls who are pregnant have to leave school, but the boys that knocked them up just keep truckin' along? OOOOOOOOKKKKKK....makes total sense!

Someone's gotta get a job down at the local Pep Boys and take care of these babby momma's someday and you just can't do that without a well rounded education of varsity sports and auto shop.

what_now: In a Louisiana public school, female students who are suspected of being pregnant are told that they must take a pregnancy test.

Oh, you're right farked.

depends.. did they get federal funds?

Counter_Intelligent: Apos: All in favor of Louisana tag,say aye.



I'll start: AYE!

No. I'll not have 50 tags for 50 states. The idea is played out. FARK needs to learn to live with Florida being special.

Damn,that stings.

gadian: number8: More fun with this school's policy manual:

Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Public displays of affection include, but are not limited to, holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other, and sitting in each other's laps. It is understood that small children may engage in such behaviors as hand-holding and hugging without sexual connotation. The Student Handbook will address the above actions with other students, and it is expected that a breif discussion will constitute warning. Such actions are inappropriate and may result in suspension or even recommendation for expulsion if such warnings are not heeded.

There's nothing too bizarre about that. It sounds like a good policy.

But did the school really misspell brief (breif)? normally one could care less, unless its, you know, a school...

bigvicproton: gadian: number8: More fun with this school's policy manual:

Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Public displays of affection include, but are not limited to, holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other, and sitting in each other's laps. It is understood that small children may engage in such behaviors as hand-holding and hugging without sexual connotation. The Student Handbook will address the above actions with other students, and it is expected that a breif discussion will constitute warning. Such actions are inappropriate and may result in suspension or even recommendation for expulsion if such warnings are not heeded.

There's nothing too bizarre about that. It sounds like a good policy.

But did the school really misspell brief (breif)? normally one could care less, unless its, you know, a school...

I prefer "breef," but please let me be breef: go breef. ;)

Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

If you don't like it, send your daughter to another school. Maybe she can go to the public one all the whores attend.

Indubitably: bigvicproton: gadian: number8: More fun with this school's policy manual:

Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Public displays of affection include, but are not limited to, holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other, and sitting in each other's laps. It is understood that small children may engage in such behaviors as hand-holding and hugging without sexual connotation. The Student Handbook will address the above actions with other students, and it is expected that a breif discussion will constitute warning. Such actions are inappropriate and may result in suspension or even recommendation for expulsion if such warnings are not heeded.

There's nothing too bizarre about that. It sounds like a good policy.

But did the school really misspell brief (breif)? normally one could care less, unless its, you know, a school...

I prefer "breef," but please let me be breef: go breef. ;)

Breefity is the soul of wit.

Last Man on Earth: Apos: All in favor of Louisana tag,say aye.



I'll start: AYE!

Nay. I get the feeling, but this is just one story. Florida has several bizarre-as-hell stories all the time, at all levels of politics and society. I can almost see Arizona, but nobody really reaches the sheer level of insanity that Florida exudes.


Fair enough. The rebuff still smarts,though. :(

Slam dunk in court.

number8: More fun with this school's policy manual:

Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Public displays of affection include, but are not limited to, holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other, and sitting in each other's laps. It is understood that small children may engage in such behaviors as hand-holding and hugging without sexual connotation. The Student Handbook will address the above actions with other students, and it is expected that a breif discussion will constitute warning. Such actions are inappropriate and may result in suspension or even recommendation for expulsion if such warnings are not heeded.

If this was directly lifted from the hand-book, it's pretty funny.

/kuz red-neks kant spel korreklee

It's a dumb idea, but this is about hiding the pregnancy from the other idiot little bimbos who will inevitably start a pregnancy fad because they saw Tammy-Lynn's baby and he was so CEUUUTE!@

WizardofToast: Endive Wombat: So the girls who are pregnant have to leave school, but the boys that knocked them up just keep truckin' along? OOOOOOOOKKKKKK....makes total sense!

You know the US doesn't blame men for things like these. Why else do we rarely talk about rapists and mostly just blame the victim?

We rarely talk about the rapists because the rape rarely happens.

Nutsac_Jim: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

If you don't like it, send your daughter to another school. Maybe she can go to the public one all the whores attend.

Man that would have been an awesome high school to go to.

shamanwest: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

Think about this too: what if there is no one that can stay home to home school them? I've known several people who home schooled their children, and it is full-time work. It requires a parent that can stay home to do it. What if both parents work or if the girl comes from a single-parent home? What does she do then?

She goes to public school.

Britney Spear's Speculum: Schools should be supporting pregnant and parenting teens that face numerous barriers to completing their education, not illegally excluding them from school.

No. Schools should be discouraging teen pregnancy and not by shaming them into taking a pregnancy test.

Are you advocating... abstinence? Remember, this is Fark. They either get their tubes tied or go on the pill round these parts.

/never miss an opportunity to fark
//never discourage an opportunity to fark

Nutsac_Jim: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

If you don't like it, send your daughter to another school. Maybe she can go to the public one all the whores attend.

There was no irony at all in your choice of a screen name huh?

I think that if you could actually read you would notice that I said that I don't have any daughters; however, I would also note that I would not allow my sons to attend a school with this policy either, because the way charter schools stay in business is by enrollment, if people refuse to send their children to the ones with ignorant policies, they either change the policies or get closed due to lack of funding.

I_Hate_Iowa: number8: Male students are not allowed to have earrings or any other piercings. Female student can have one piercing in each ear, that's it. Men can't have hair below the shirt collar.

So they make guys shave their balls? How do they check that without getting in trouble? Seems like the ACLU has more things to be worried about than whores getting pregnant.

Took a look at your profile.

"I don't think anything pisses me off more than bigotry."

Socially liberal. Don't tell me what to do, and I'll extend you the same courtesy. My rights end the second my fist touches your nose, but you shouldn't worry about me before then.

Target classified as:

Nutsac_Jim: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

If you don't like it, send your daughter to another school. Maybe she can go to the public one all the whores attend.

Maybe your mom's in the know of which school would be best. *someone had to say it*

gadian: number8: More fun with this school's policy manual:

Students at a public school are expected to show respect for themselves and for others in their relationships. Public displays of affection are not permitted at Delhi Charter School and show disdain for good taste.

Public displays of affection include, but are not limited to, holding hands on school premises, hugging, kissing, leaning against each other, and sitting in each other's laps. It is understood that small children may engage in such behaviors as hand-holding and hugging without sexual connotation. The Student Handbook will address the above actions with other students, and it is expected that a breif discussion will constitute warning. Such actions are inappropriate and may result in suspension or even recommendation for expulsion if such warnings are not heeded.

There's nothing too bizarre about that. It sounds like a good policy.

Oh? How so?

OtherLittleGuy: So, if a school doesn't take one dime of Federal funding, they can say "Fark you" to Title IX?

In this case you can throw all that out and still make an argument on civil liberties grounds. Given the ACLU is using this particular argument it's safe to say they've done their work and actually found reason to use it.

Huggermugger: Ah, charter schools. This is what the GOP is trying to force on us. Read the specs on the ALEC website about the criteria that they want to allow charter schools to force on students. Bottom line, it's a way to control students and expel them if they don't comply with the Christian Dominionist rules.

The nice thing is that if you don't like it, you can not attend that evil charter school. You can keep your kids in the crappy schools that were so bad that someone had to come up with a charter school. Or, you could start up your own charter school that actually provides a good education as well as being free of the things you don.t like.

Britney Spear's Speculum: Schools should be supporting pregnant and parenting teens that face numerous barriers to completing their education, not illegally excluding them from school.

No. Schools should be discouraging teen pregnancy and not by shaming them into taking a pregnancy test.

Rducating them and giving them access to birth control is just reckless, non christian behavior and encouraqges promiscuity. Girls gotta pay for their sins and bear their shame appropriately.

Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

Same goes for schools and govt telling me my child is ADD, ADHD when there's no clinical test to prove it, then MAKING them take psychotropic drugs. Define Better.

Nutsac_Jim: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

If you don't like it, send your daughter to another school. Maybe she can go to the public one all the whores attend.

Nutsac_Jim: WizardofToast: Endive Wombat: So the girls who are pregnant have to leave school, but the boys that knocked them up just keep truckin' along? OOOOOOOOKKKKKK....makes total sense!

You know the US doesn't blame men for things like these. Why else do we rarely talk about rapists and mostly just blame the victim?

We rarely talk about the rapists because the rape rarely happens.

Obvious troll is obvious.

At least I_Hate_Iowa opted for subtlety. You could learn from him.

Kiwimann: Not sure how much ground ACLU will have to stand on. Although I completely agree with the ACLU's opinion on this, ACLU lost a similar lawsuit for a charter school that was refusing to accomodate a student with a physical disability.

There's basically a ginormous loophole that allows charterschools to discriminate like this if they make the argument that they can't accomodate or don't staff for disabilities (this school in LA could say that they don't have a trained nurse on staff for example).

It's not that big a loophole. IDEA and current case law allows for exemptions if a district can prove it's simply unable to make the accommodation; and the burden of proof is on the district. It's also on a case-by-case basis, so for instance the initial test case (the name escapes me) had to do with a very poor district in West Virginia simply being unable to afford or acquire the funds to bring ONE disabled student to the nearest school, in a rural area that couldn't even pave their roads.

The case law under Title IX is much more restrictive, and any school, that takes one dime of federal money, must demonstrate an "extremely compelling reason" for doing so. I guess the district could refuse all funding...and then there'd be no school at all, which may be just fine with those retards in Louisiana.

dpzum1: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

Same goes for schools and govt telling me my child is ADD, ADHD when there's no clinical test to prove it, then MAKING them take psychotropic drugs. Define Better.

I have no problem with the notion of suing the school district over that either. I understand that schools somehow got the mistaken notion that it was their job to parent over the last couple of decades, but for those of us who would actually do the job ourselves, we have GOT to start standing up for what we believe is best for our children. Just allowing the school district to dictate to us is unacceptable.

shamanwest: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

Think about this too: what if there is no one that can stay home to home school them? I've known several people who home schooled their children, and it is full-time work. It requires a parent that can stay home to do it. What if both parents work or if the girl comes from a single-parent home? What does she do then?

In addition, not every adult is competent enough in the various high school subject--math and advanced sciences come to mind--to successively homeschool. Especially most adults in Louisiana...

Teresaol31: dpzum1: Teresaol31: I'm told this law has been on the books since 1972! What the hell is wrong with parents in Louisiana? I don't have any daughters, but if I DID I damn sure would not stand for any school telling her she had to take a pregnancy test, and God help them if they tried to kick my child out of school for getting pregnant, especially if the father of her child didn't get sent home too! I just don't know how anyone can accept a school district making life altering decisions for their child, and the decision to require a child already facing an unwanted, early life pregnancy to home school is certainly an attempt to insure their life is even more difficult. And of course, these same nosy jerks would be the first to be outraged if the student opted to terminate the pregnancy so that she can stay in school!

Same goes for schools and govt telling me my child is ADD, ADHD when there's no clinical test to prove it, then MAKING them take psychotropic drugs. Define Better.

I have no problem with the notion of suing the school district over that either. I understand that schools somehow got the mistaken notion that it was their job to parent over the last couple of decades, but for those of us who would actually do the job ourselves, we have GOT to start standing up for what we believe is best for our children. Just allowing the school district to dictate to us is unacceptable.

Well said.

seems like an enterprising soul in this city could open a business that caters to educating slutty teenage girls who obviously put out.

Mr. Eugenides: I notice that it's a charter school. Since all of ths students are there by choice the school may have a small leg to stand on as long as the policy was known to the families before they entered the school.

It's still illegal. You don't get to opt-out of anti-discrimination laws.

Family story as told to me by my mom:

When my grandmother was 17, she "got in trouble with a married man" and "was removed from polite society" to live with her aunt in the country for the summer. When she came back to school the next year, she had lost a little weight and her married older sister had adopted a beautiful baby girl. My grandmother's reputation was intact, her barren older sister had the child she wanted, and everybody was happy. That's why my mother's cousin is actually her sister and why it sucked to be a woman in the 1940's.

Maybe if these kids were taught how babby is formed and how not to make babby in the first place (not the abstinence only crap) this wouldn't even be an issue.

whats a babby?

Last Man on Earth: That's just the rules as written. In practice, they aren't enforced so as to be all that much different from when you were in school. They just phrase the actual code more restrictively so as to head off unforeseen loopholes.

This kind of "well, the rules aren't really enforced" leads to all kinds of ugliness. They may, then, turn a fairly blind eye to a wholesome cheerleader/quarterback snog. But, if a lesbian or interracial couple does the same, they can say it was verboten altogether. Likewise, there's nothing in this policy saying that the school *will* give a pregnancy test. Just that they can if they want to. If the daughter of a regional political power gets knocked up five months before graduation, they may well simply not bother to test her, or somehow never notice that she's showing.

MattyBlast: To be fair, most schools have some kind of punishment if you get caught skipping a period.

*sprays screen with liquid*