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2012-08-06 03:33:01 PM  
When Obama wins, the far right will go into an apoplectic rage. I mean, these are the people who said Clinton, a white, chubby, good old boy from Arkansas who was nicknamed "Bubba", was a murdering, drug dealing pederast.

Can you imagine what they'll come up with when the black guy named Hussein wins a second term? I think someone will take a shot at him. I hope I'm wrong. But if you read the mainstream conservative websites comments sections you'll see that kind of talk is commonplace.
 
2012-08-06 03:35:16 PM  

dameron: When Obama wins, the far right will go into an apoplectic rage. I mean, these are the people who said Clinton, a white, chubby, good old boy from Arkansas who was nicknamed "Bubba", was a murdering, drug dealing pederast.

Can you imagine what they'll come up with when the black guy named Hussein wins a second term? I think someone will take a shot at him. I hope I'm wrong. But if you read the mainstream conservative websites comments sections you'll see that kind of talk is commonplace.


all I know is that the secret service has their hands full keeping Obama safe from religious nutballs and right wing fanatics who just wanna kill the black man in the white house. that, my friends, is a thankless job and i'm glad they're doing it.
 
2012-08-06 03:35:33 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: I am so farking sick of Christians. You can't say the fundamentalists aren't the majority when fundamentalist Christian law is set to pass on the state level.

Someone once said that freedom of speech isn't the freedom to hate.

Well it still is officially so as long as I'm being oppressed I'm free to hate.

Gonna burn down a church or something? Your words about Christians are eerily similar to Michelle Bachmann's words about Muslims.


I don't want to, and I have no intent on doing so.

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.
 
2012-08-06 03:36:15 PM  

dameron: When Obama wins, the far right will go into an apoplectic rage. I mean, these are the people who said Clinton, a white, chubby, good old boy from Arkansas who was nicknamed "Bubba", was a murdering, drug dealing pederast.

Can you imagine what they'll come up with when the black guy named Hussein wins a second term? I think someone will take a shot at him. I hope I'm wrong. But if you read the mainstream conservative websites comments sections you'll see that kind of talk is commonplace.


Frankly I am surprised that no one has even gotten close so far. There are many white supremacists out there, and that scares the bejesus out of me. Secret Service definitely knows what they are doing.
 
2012-08-06 03:38:22 PM  

GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: I am so farking sick of Christians. You can't say the fundamentalists aren't the majority when fundamentalist Christian law is set to pass on the state level.

Someone once said that freedom of speech isn't the freedom to hate.

Well it still is officially so as long as I'm being oppressed I'm free to hate.

Gonna burn down a church or something? Your words about Christians are eerily similar to Michelle Bachmann's words about Muslims.

I don't want to, and I have no intent on doing so.

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.


Well, I'd suggest voting, but the vast majority of people who run for office are Christians, and you hate them so that's not an option. Still, I wonder why you mock the people who hate Obama because of his race when you clearly hate him because of his faith.
 
2012-08-06 03:41:36 PM  

GAT_00:

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.


education and making sure you let the religious nutballs have a public forum in which to rant to any/all who want to listen. education is important because you can show people why it's a bad idea to vote for religious crazy people and a public forum because when the religious nutters are ranting you know they're not quietly building a bomb in their backyards or stockpiling ammo for a murder spree.
 
2012-08-06 03:42:26 PM  

FlashHarry: the suspected arson at a missouri mosque today. try to keep up.


pisceandreamer: Mosque in Missouri burned to the ground this morning.


Thanks guys. This is what happens when I only get my news from the front page at fark.
 
2012-08-06 03:43:03 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: I am so farking sick of Christians. You can't say the fundamentalists aren't the majority when fundamentalist Christian law is set to pass on the state level.

Someone once said that freedom of speech isn't the freedom to hate.

Well it still is officially so as long as I'm being oppressed I'm free to hate.

Gonna burn down a church or something? Your words about Christians are eerily similar to Michelle Bachmann's words about Muslims.

I don't want to, and I have no intent on doing so.

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.

Well, I'd suggest voting, but the vast majority of people who run for office are Christians, and you hate them so that's not an option. Still, I wonder why you mock the people who hate Obama because of his race when you clearly hate him because of his faith.


I haven't been a fan of the President for a while. But while he hasn't tried to, at least to a large degree, legislate his religion, I can't help but wonder if he would under the right conditions. As I see it, any Christian isn't that far off from fundamentalism. They all go off the same book after all.

His religion is down the list for why I don't like him though.
 
2012-08-06 03:44:55 PM  

Weaver95: GAT_00:

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.

education and making sure you let the religious nutballs have a public forum in which to rant to any/all who want to listen. education is important because you can show people why it's a bad idea to vote for religious crazy people and a public forum because when the religious nutters are ranting you know they're not quietly building a bomb in their backyards or stockpiling ammo for a murder spree.


There is no evidence that these people lose votes when they speak.
 
2012-08-06 03:47:26 PM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00:

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.

education and making sure you let the religious nutballs have a public forum in which to rant to any/all who want to listen. education is important because you can show people why it's a bad idea to vote for religious crazy people and a public forum because when the religious nutters are ranting you know they're not quietly building a bomb in their backyards or stockpiling ammo for a murder spree.

There is no evidence that these people lose votes when they speak.


Romney sure seems to be losing votes.
 
2012-08-06 03:47:42 PM  
Just remember: it's not terrorism when a white person does it.
 
2012-08-06 03:48:32 PM  

GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: I am so farking sick of Christians. You can't say the fundamentalists aren't the majority when fundamentalist Christian law is set to pass on the state level.

Someone once said that freedom of speech isn't the freedom to hate.

Well it still is officially so as long as I'm being oppressed I'm free to hate.

Gonna burn down a church or something? Your words about Christians are eerily similar to Michelle Bachmann's words about Muslims.

I don't want to, and I have no intent on doing so.

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.

Well, I'd suggest voting, but the vast majority of people who run for office are Christians, and you hate them so that's not an option. Still, I wonder why you mock the people who hate Obama because of his race when you clearly hate him because of his faith.

I haven't been a fan of the President for a while. But while he hasn't tried to, at least to a large degree, legislate his religion, I can't help but wonder if he would under the right conditions. As I see it, any Christian isn't that far off from fundamentalism. They all go off the same book after all.

His religion is down the list for why I don't like him though.


Well then I don't understand why you particularly care which party wins. Both of them are vastly majority Christian, and you believe there's no difference between any Christian.

Still, I do appreciate you being so candid about your bigotry. It's refreshing to see someone being honest about their hatred. I do wonder hwy you find it acceptable to spew hate speech though, while you condemn others for saying essentially the same thing.

Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so much. You're more alike than you realize.
 
2012-08-06 03:48:56 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Clinton had the crazies imagining the UN dropping troops all over in black helicopters and taking guns away and putting people in prison camps. On and on. I remember because I believed it.


Serious question: WHY?
 
2012-08-06 03:51:08 PM  

Aarontology:
Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so ...


GAT_00 is very much an authoritarian so he shares a lot of similar philosophical viewpoints with religious authoritarians. That said, he's more secular than religious. he'd use a similar methodology to impose his will on others, just without the theocratic trappings.
 
2012-08-06 03:53:06 PM  

eraser8: Nadie_AZ: Clinton had the crazies imagining the UN dropping troops all over in black helicopters and taking guns away and putting people in prison camps. On and on. I remember because I believed it.

Serious question: WHY?


Eh, old story of me being very conservative and very religious. I was born and raised mormon. I believed all of it. Couple that with finding Rush Limbaugh and AM Radio at just the right age and being married to someone from a rural town. And there you go.

/I got better
 
2012-08-06 03:55:51 PM  

Weaver95: Aarontology:
Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so ...

GAT_00 is very much an authoritarian so he shares a lot of similar philosophical viewpoints with religious authoritarians. That said, he's more secular than religious. he'd use a similar methodology to impose his will on others, just without the theocratic trappings.


Oh, of course. But because it's secular, he thinks his admitted bigotry and hatred is somehow better, or more justifiable Look at his "I'm oppressed so it's ok for me to hate" reasoning. It's the same thing as the whackjobs who think they're being oppressed because people are boycotting chicken joints.
 
2012-08-06 03:56:29 PM  

Nadie_AZ: eraser8: Nadie_AZ: Clinton had the crazies imagining the UN dropping troops all over in black helicopters and taking guns away and putting people in prison camps. On and on. I remember because I believed it.

Serious question: WHY?

Eh, old story of me being very conservative and very religious. I was born and raised mormon. I believed all of it. Couple that with finding Rush Limbaugh and AM Radio at just the right age and being married to someone from a rural town. And there you go.

/I got better


Dont forget about Alex Jones
 
2012-08-06 03:56:57 PM  

GAT_00: I haven't been a fan of the President for a while. But while he hasn't tried to, at least to a large degree, legislate his religion, I can't help but wonder if he would under the right conditions. As I see it, any Christian isn't that far off from fundamentalism. They all go off the same book after all.

His religion is down the list for why I don't like him though


I'm not sure Obama is really such a big believer. Unfortunately, in politics in America you have to be religious.
 
2012-08-06 03:57:38 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: I am so farking sick of Christians. You can't say the fundamentalists aren't the majority when fundamentalist Christian law is set to pass on the state level.

Someone once said that freedom of speech isn't the freedom to hate.

Well it still is officially so as long as I'm being oppressed I'm free to hate.

Gonna burn down a church or something? Your words about Christians are eerily similar to Michelle Bachmann's words about Muslims.

I don't want to, and I have no intent on doing so.

But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out.

Well, I'd suggest voting, but the vast majority of people who run for office are Christians, and you hate them so that's not an option. Still, I wonder why you mock the people who hate Obama because of his race when you clearly hate him because of his faith.

I haven't been a fan of the President for a while. But while he hasn't tried to, at least to a large degree, legislate his religion, I can't help but wonder if he would under the right conditions. As I see it, any Christian isn't that far off from fundamentalism. They all go off the same book after all.

His religion is down the list for why I don't like him though.

Well then I don't understand why you particularly care which party wins. Both of them are vastly majority Christian, and you believe there's no difference between any Christian.

Still, I do appreciate you being so candid about your bigotry. It's refreshing to see someone being honest about their hatred. I do wonder hwy you find it acceptable to spew hate speech though, while you condemn others for saying essentially the same thing.

Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so much. You're more alike than you realize.


I'm not killing people. I think if these people stopped legislating their beliefs, they stopped persecuting, I wouldn't care. Im perfectly happy to live along side everyone, but not when i have to wonder what it will take for my neighbor to start demanding laws that will throw me in jail. But as long as they are trying to install a religious theocracy, as long as they have majority support, I think I have every right to care.
 
2012-08-06 03:58:37 PM  

ShawnDoc: FlashHarry: the suspected arson at a missouri mosque today. try to keep up.

pisceandreamer: Mosque in Missouri burned to the ground this morning.

Thanks guys. This is what happens when I only get my news from the front page at fark.


i find that fark is faster than just about any news source. really. and funnier.
 
2012-08-06 03:59:41 PM  
eraser8:
Serious question: WHY?


You never believed stupid stuff when you were young? Some people realize how stupid X is, and then look back wondering how they could have believed it.
 
2012-08-06 03:59:42 PM  

cman: Nadie_AZ: eraser8: Nadie_AZ: Clinton had the crazies imagining the UN dropping troops all over in black helicopters and taking guns away and putting people in prison camps. On and on. I remember because I believed it.

Serious question: WHY?

Eh, old story of me being very conservative and very religious. I was born and raised mormon. I believed all of it. Couple that with finding Rush Limbaugh and AM Radio at just the right age and being married to someone from a rural town. And there you go.

/I got better

Dont forget about Alex Jones


Yeesh. Yeah. I feel bad for people who are so insecure that they are afraid of everything and angry at everybody else. It is sad to see.
 
2012-08-06 04:01:17 PM  

Aarontology: Weaver95: Aarontology:
Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so ...

GAT_00 is very much an authoritarian so he shares a lot of similar philosophical viewpoints with religious authoritarians. That said, he's more secular than religious. he'd use a similar methodology to impose his will on others, just without the theocratic trappings.

Oh, of course. But because it's secular, he thinks his admitted bigotry and hatred is somehow better, or more justifiable Look at his "I'm oppressed so it's ok for me to hate" reasoning. It's the same thing as the whackjobs who think they're being oppressed because people are boycotting chicken joints.


it's a common failing among authoritarians - they feel a compulsion to control the behavior of others. they tell themselves that what they are doing is for a 'greater good' or that they're oppressing the rights of others because 'people can't be trusted' to behave. the more people resist, the harder the authoritarian tries to crack down on dissident opinions. Religion is just window dressing, the problem is that authoritarians need to be actively resisted...and not everyone understands what it is they're really facing.

personally, I think authoritarians just need therapy (or the number of a very understanding and discrete dominatrix).
 
2012-08-06 04:03:02 PM  
Hey knock yourselves out. Investigate any extremists you want. I'm pretty boring, but still - stop before you get to people like me.

thxbye
 
2012-08-06 04:03:36 PM  

Weaver95: Aarontology: Weaver95: Aarontology:
Must be one of those "It's ok when I do it, even if it goes against my own core beliefs" things like those Christians you hate so ...

GAT_00 is very much an authoritarian so he shares a lot of similar philosophical viewpoints with religious authoritarians. That said, he's more secular than religious. he'd use a similar methodology to impose his will on others, just without the theocratic trappings.

Oh, of course. But because it's secular, he thinks his admitted bigotry and hatred is somehow better, or more justifiable Look at his "I'm oppressed so it's ok for me to hate" reasoning. It's the same thing as the whackjobs who think they're being oppressed because people are boycotting chicken joints.

it's a common failing among authoritarians - they feel a compulsion to control the behavior of others. they tell themselves that what they are doing is for a 'greater good' or that they're oppressing the rights of others because 'people can't be trusted' to behave. the more people resist, the harder the authoritarian tries to crack down on dissident opinions. Religion is just window dressing, the problem is that authoritarians need to be actively resisted...and not everyone understands what it is they're really facing.

personally, I think authoritarians just need therapy (or the number of a very understanding and discrete dominatrix).


I like it when people who consistently slam me for misinterpreting their beliefs constantly make up feelings and opinions for me, and then spit out psycho babble to go along with the made up opinions.
 
2012-08-06 04:04:15 PM  

GAT_00:
I like it when people who consistently slam me for misinterpreting their beliefs constantly make up feelings and opinions for me, and then spit out psycho babble to go along with the made up opinions.


yes...i'm sure you do.
 
2012-08-06 04:04:36 PM  

Xaxor: You never believed stupid stuff when you were young?


Sure I did.

I used to think dogs were male and cats were female...which somewhat explains why the Tom & Jerry cartoons were always a bit disturbing to me: Tom was an aberration (still better than Jerry, though).

In any case, keep in mind I wasn't doubting that Nadie_AZ believed something quite ridiculous. I wanted to know specifically what led him to believe those things. Now he's told me.

Thanks for the answer by the way, Nadie_AZ.
 
2012-08-06 04:06:30 PM  

eraser8: Thanks for the answer by the way, Nadie_AZ.


You are welcome.

/tom was an aberration
//i rooted for him so many times
 
2012-08-06 04:07:44 PM  

GAT_00: I'm not killing people. I think if these people stopped legislating their beliefs, they stopped persecuting, I wouldn't care. Im perfectly happy to live along side everyone, but not when i have to wonder what it will take for my neighbor to start demanding laws that will throw me in jail. But as long as they are trying to install a religious theocracy, as long as they have majority support, I think I have every right to care.


You can care all you want. I never said otherwise.

But when you flat out admit your bigotry towards all Christians, your statements that you'll be happy to live alongside them ring hollow. But since you've normalized your hatred for them and justified it, I don't think you'll ever not see them as oppressors waiting to come get you.

Also, when you say things like "But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out."

It kinda makes it seem like you're at least considering violence. Because that kinda sounded like a freeper post against Muslims.
 
2012-08-06 04:13:59 PM  
i.huffpost.com

Motherfarker should have followed his leader.
 
2012-08-06 04:14:33 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: I'm not killing people. I think if these people stopped legislating their beliefs, they stopped persecuting, I wouldn't care. Im perfectly happy to live along side everyone, but not when i have to wonder what it will take for my neighbor to start demanding laws that will throw me in jail. But as long as they are trying to install a religious theocracy, as long as they have majority support, I think I have every right to care.

You can care all you want. I never said otherwise.

But when you flat out admit your bigotry towards all Christians, your statements that you'll be happy to live alongside them ring hollow. But since you've normalized your hatred for them and justified it, I don't think you'll ever not see them as oppressors waiting to come get you.

Also, when you say things like "But I do wonder quite a lot about what I can do to stop these people, and I wish I could think of a good answer. Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out."

It kinda makes it seem like you're at least considering violence. Because that kinda sounded like a freeper post against Muslims.


Do you're just choosing to ignore the part about where I consider violence to be the actions of the incompetent? That I don't want to have to worry about this? That I would like a law that completely removed the problem? I'd say a law already exists, but it clearly doesn't work. So i keep looking for any solution to stave off violence, to return to a place where I can actually not care about what someone else's religion is no matter what it is, because their religion can't affect me.

Now what Freeper have you ever heard talk like that? You realize you're doing the very thing you accuse me of? Dismissing me because you don't like what I'm saying? Assigning opinions to me that are not mine to discredit me?

I wish i didn't have to care, I really do. But I can't, because these people are destroying the country. So i keep looking for something, anything, to stave off destruction. Anything that can peacefully resolve. So tell me what Freeper do I sound like?
 
2012-08-06 04:18:36 PM  

GAT_00: Now what Freeper have you ever heard talk like that? You realize you're doing the very thing you accuse me of? Dismissing me because you don't like what I'm saying? Assigning opinions to me that are not mine to discredit me?


There really isn't any other way to take "Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out." It's saying you wish you could think of another way besides violence, but you can't.

Accept it dude. You're a hateful little bigot. You've flat out said as much. Embrace it like the teabaggers do. Don't try to hide behind some BS veneer. shiat, you said one of the reasons you don't like Obama is because he's a Christian. Don't try to pretend this is about secularism. It's about your admitted bigotry and hatred.
 
2012-08-06 04:20:57 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Now what Freeper have you ever heard talk like that? You realize you're doing the very thing you accuse me of? Dismissing me because you don't like what I'm saying? Assigning opinions to me that are not mine to discredit me?

There really isn't any other way to take "Well, besides falling to the last refuge of the incompetent that is. I'd like to think there is, but I can't figure it out." It's saying you wish you could think of another way besides violence, but you can't.

Accept it dude. You're a hateful little bigot. You've flat out said as much. Embrace it like the teabaggers do. Don't try to hide behind some BS veneer. shiat, you said one of the reasons you don't like Obama is because he's a Christian. Don't try to pretend this is about secularism. It's about your admitted bigotry and hatred.


So cherry picking is the name of the game. Why do I bother with any degree of eloquence?
 
2012-08-06 04:24:06 PM  

sweetmelissa31: I think we were told we should investigate brown people with scarves on their heads rather than God fearing right wing white Americans.


/FTFY
 
2012-08-06 04:26:58 PM  

GAT_00: So cherry picking is the name of the game. Why do I bother with any degree of eloquence?


Then tell me what you meant by that statement. Because the last refuge of the incompetent means one thing. And saying you can't think of any other way kind of makes it seem like you've at least considered it.

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry. You're usually so quick and proud to proclaim it.
 
2012-08-06 04:27:11 PM  

vernonFL: Lets not let ONE Neo Nazi give all Neo Nazis a bad name.


It's that Kyle guy, isn't it? That's why they're all looking for him.

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-08-06 04:31:16 PM  

Xaxor: eraser8:
Serious question: WHY?

You never believed stupid stuff when you were young? Some people realize how stupid X is, and then look back wondering how they could have believed it.


I've mentioned it once on here before but, when I was younger I thought that when people had sex doggystyle it meant one person just lifted up their leg like a urinating dog.

I also used to think that watermelon seeds would grow in your stomach if swallowed and that all sand became quicksand when wet. It made for some interesting times at the beach.
 
2012-08-06 04:39:49 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: So cherry picking is the name of the game. Why do I bother with any degree of eloquence?

Then tell me what you meant by that statement. Because the last refuge of the incompetent means one thing. And saying you can't think of any other way kind of makes it seem like you've at least considered it.

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry. You're usually so quick and proud to proclaim it.


You never stopped to ask what I meant by it, you read what you wanted. You know where it is on the annoyance scale? Around where my annoyance is that Obama uses his hair color as a tool for speeches, not dying his hair when he was to look more serious. You know why it annoys me? Because he uses his Christianity as a weapon for politics. Not because he legislates on it. He might, but he isn't.

Of course, this won't matter. You read what you want to read, because your mind is utterly closed to anything I say. There is nothing I could say to change your mind, is there? Be honest.
 
2012-08-06 04:47:45 PM  
 
2012-08-06 04:48:22 PM  

GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: So cherry picking is the name of the game. Why do I bother with any degree of eloquence?

Then tell me what you meant by that statement. Because the last refuge of the incompetent means one thing. And saying you can't think of any other way kind of makes it seem like you've at least considered it.

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry. You're usually so quick and proud to proclaim it.

You never stopped to ask what I meant by it, you read what you wanted. You know where it is on the annoyance scale? Around where my annoyance is that Obama uses his hair color as a tool for speeches, not dying his hair when he was to look more serious. You know why it annoys me? Because he uses his Christianity as a weapon for politics. Not because he legislates on it. He might, but he isn't.

Of course, this won't matter. You read what you want to read, because your mind is utterly closed to anything I say. There is nothing I could say to change your mind, is there? Be honest.


Sure. By actually answering the question, which you have flat out refused to do. What else could you have meant? I've never heard any other definition or interpretation of that phrase in my entire life, and I doubt many other people have.

Stop with this Romney-esque refusal to answer a simple question about what you meant.
 
2012-08-06 05:04:20 PM  

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: GAT_00: So cherry picking is the name of the game. Why do I bother with any degree of eloquence?

Then tell me what you meant by that statement. Because the last refuge of the incompetent means one thing. And saying you can't think of any other way kind of makes it seem like you've at least considered it.

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry. You're usually so quick and proud to proclaim it.

You never stopped to ask what I meant by it, you read what you wanted. You know where it is on the annoyance scale? Around where my annoyance is that Obama uses his hair color as a tool for speeches, not dying his hair when he was to look more serious. You know why it annoys me? Because he uses his Christianity as a weapon for politics. Not because he legislates on it. He might, but he isn't.

Of course, this won't matter. You read what you want to read, because your mind is utterly closed to anything I say. There is nothing I could say to change your mind, is there? Be honest.

Sure. By actually answering the question, which you have flat out refused to do. What else could you have meant? I've never heard any other definition or interpretation of that phrase in my entire life, and I doubt many other people have.

Stop with this Romney-esque refusal to answer a simple question about what you meant.


For fark's sake, it wasn't serious! Do you think I'd advocate violence, and then turn around and call myself incompetent for it? Forgive the smart ass on a site dedicated to making fun of everything! That was the perfect moment for tongue in cheek, but because you are so utterly blind to anything except your own opinion of me, you couldn't see it! Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, and the point I've tried to make and you have ignored over and over again is I want anything but that. Why would someone who wants to stop mass murders turn around and advocate them? This entire thing has been the result of your utter hatred and close mindedness of me that you couldn't see farking snark!

Why the fark do I bother with you? No I don't advocate killing Christians, I don't advocate killing anyone! What I want is for them to stop passing laws on their religion.

Now, is it possible that I have convinced you, or is that even possible?
 
2012-08-06 05:05:12 PM  

GAT_00: Now, is it possible that I have convinced you, or is that even possible?


See? that wasn't so hard now, was it?
 
2012-08-06 05:25:21 PM  

Therion: Motherfarker should have followed his leader.


I'm surprised this guy didn't know most neo-Nazi orgs are populated with FBI informants.

I continued to be surprised the FBI didn't know what this guy was planning.
 
2012-08-06 06:11:48 PM  
We need another
 
2012-08-06 06:12:16 PM  
Rounding up the right wingers shouldn't be to hard, we could use the patriot act. After all keeping America safe is their number one priority.
 
2012-08-06 06:14:11 PM  
"We came unarmed THIS time"
"2nd Amendment Solutions"
...shucks, we were just joking about those, we didn't' think anybody took them seriously.
 
2012-08-06 06:14:33 PM  

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ:

No, I know. I just tire of the whole 'we are a christian nation' argument in which they demand we all be christians. The moment you ask them to define it, it goes to a pile of shiat, derp and aborted fetuses.

the 'we are a christian nation' people offend me on an almost genetic level. that is a demonstrably false allegation and it's something on a dominionist theologian would make up. it implies that ONLY christians are valid citizens of the US and that just pisses me the hell off.


And that the bible supersedes the constitution.
 
2012-08-06 06:14:44 PM  
These poor Sikhs... The first "retaliation" attack after 9/11 was a Sikh, too. Some jackass in Mesa, Az shot the owner of the gas station down the street from my father in law's house, a real nice guy, and a Sikh, not a Muslim. I remember when it happened, and they originally decided that they 'weren't' going to consider it a hate crime, but apparently the little bird of reason spoke into someone's ear.

Just because they kinda look like Muslim's how are these poor deranged souls supposed to know the difference? If profiling was a bad thing, wouldn't we stop our cops from doing it as much as we can, same with people like the TSA?
 
2012-08-06 06:14:53 PM  

Aarontology:

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry.


IANAL, but doesn't bigotry require hating someone for who they are (gay, black, female, etc.)? That's how I've always used it.

I don't see how it would apply to hating someone for what they do.
 
2012-08-06 06:16:41 PM  

Nobodyn0se: Aarontology:

I don't understand why you're hiding from your admitted bigotry.

IANAL, but doesn't bigotry require hating someone for who they are (gay, black, female, etc.)? That's how I've always used it.

I don't see how it would apply to hating someone for what they do.


FWIW, we've been asked to let the whole thing lie. It's done.
 
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