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(Gary Johnson 2012)   Gary Johnson (L-aissez Faire) endorses the Freedom to Marry Act in Ohio: "It should not be the purview of government to impose one set of beliefs over another"   (garyjohnson2012.com) divider line 224
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2012-08-06 01:25:49 PM  
And that's why you didn't get any traction in the GOP primaries, Gary.
 
2012-08-06 01:33:06 PM  
It's good see Gary Johnson's press director is getting the word via Fark.
 
2012-08-06 01:34:12 PM  
i am shocked, SHOCKED, to see some sanity coming out of either Ohio or the Libertarians.
 
2012-08-06 01:37:15 PM  
Screw it. I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

/ok, probably not, but the guy makes sense
 
2012-08-06 01:47:35 PM  
Add another reason why he gets my vote. Best candidate the Ls have offered up in...well in forever.
 
2012-08-06 01:50:34 PM  
He should find an openly gay running mate.
 
2012-08-06 02:02:30 PM  

Aarontology: And that's why you didn't get any traction in the GOP primaries, Gary.


That's fine...fark the GOP, he's got my vote and the GOP will never get it so long as they continue to force their brand of social conservatism on this country.

The My Little Pony Killer: i am shocked, SHOCKED, to see some sanity coming out of either Ohio or the Libertarians.


The Libertarian party has always stood for individual liberty. Which is why they support gay marriage.
 
2012-08-06 02:11:16 PM  

slayer199: The My Little Pony Killer: i am shocked, SHOCKED, to see some sanity coming out of either Ohio or the Libertarians.

The Libertarian party has always stood for individual liberty. Which is why they support gay marriage.


Yes, but I am used to seeing them go off the deep end about it, a-la RON PAUL.

/come at me, grammar nazis
 
2012-08-06 02:15:02 PM  
Hero tag? Really?
 
2012-08-06 02:18:18 PM  

slayer199: That's fine...fark the GOP, he's got my vote and the GOP will never get it so long as they continue to force their brand of social conservatism on this country.


Well yeah. For as much as the GOP pretends to be all about individual liberty and whatnot, their actual beliefs are far from it.
 
2012-08-06 02:19:22 PM  
I'm glad to hear him say this. It's sad that this is still considered a controversial stance.

violentsalvation: He should find an openly gay running mate.


Judge Jim Gray is his running mate. I doubt that Johnson will replace him.
 
2012-08-06 02:23:20 PM  

FloydA: violentsalvation: He should find an openly gay running mate.

Judge Jim Gray is his running mate. I doubt that Johnson will replace him.


D'oh!
 
2012-08-06 02:24:28 PM  

DamnYankees: Hero tag? Really?


This is how low the GOP has sunk. If a candidate is not bigoted, everyone is shocked and he's called a hero.
 
2012-08-06 02:27:02 PM  

sweetmelissa31: DamnYankees: Hero tag? Really?

This is how low the GOP has sunk. If a candidate is not bigoted, everyone is shocked and he's called a hero.


Didn't Obama get the hero tag when he came out in favor of gay marriage?
 
2012-08-06 02:28:45 PM  
If Johnson weren't a flat taxer and a gold nut, he'd be a pretty good candidate. Foreign-policy wise he's like Ron Paul without the racism.
 
2012-08-06 02:29:34 PM  

Aarontology: sweetmelissa31: DamnYankees: Hero tag? Really?

This is how low the GOP has sunk. If a candidate is not bigoted, everyone is shocked and he's called a hero.

Didn't Obama get the hero tag when he came out in favor of gay marriage?


No, got a Newsflash.
 
2012-08-06 02:32:27 PM  

Aarontology: Didn't Obama get the hero tag when he came out in favor of gay marriage?


I don't remember. It does carry a little more weight when a current president supports it though.
 
2012-08-06 02:33:25 PM  
 
2012-08-06 02:34:54 PM  

DamnYankees: No, got a Newsflash.


Ahhh.

sweetmelissa31: I don't remember. It does carry a little more weight when a current president supports it though.


True. But it's still good to see more prominent politicians be in favor.

For some definitions of prominent.
 
2012-08-06 02:36:30 PM  

Aarontology: True. But it's still good to see more prominent politicians be in favor.


I dont really think Gary Johnson counts as prominent anywhere but in NM.
 
2012-08-06 02:48:14 PM  

DamnYankees: Aarontology: True. But it's still good to see more prominent politicians be in favor.

I dont really think Gary Johnson counts as prominent anywhere but in NM.


Hence the disclaimer.
 
2012-08-06 02:54:42 PM  

DamnYankees: Aarontology: True. But it's still good to see more prominent politicians be in favor.

I dont really think Gary Johnson counts as prominent anywhere but in NM.


He does have a bit of a following in NH/ME area.
 
2012-08-06 02:56:26 PM  
It is the consistent position if you value the Constitution. By dint of the freedom of religion, by dint of equality under the law. Supporting marriage equality should be an issue where the Republican Party should lead the way, but because of the knuckle dragging, Idiot Right, we have the a GOP with a scattershot platform that doesn't consistently follow any ideological basis, and that is why the party comes out as disjointed as it does. It has no ideological center any longer, only radical wings that push and pull it around like a mad gyroscope. Which is why I can't call myself a Republican any longer.

If you like the Constitution, if you like privacy, if you like equality, and you like the freedom to choose, then support of marriage equality is a no brainer. Sadly, the GOP has given up on anything like a Conservative basis, on anything like support of the Constitution, and instead is up for sale to the highest bidder, and because of this, we have a platform that is so ramshackle and mismatched. Ideologically, it is bankrupt, and the only thing lashing these conflicting platforms together are a Justification Machine of disingenuous "scholars" and pundits trying desperately to keep the plates spinning and hoping that centripetal force will keep everyone on their feet, but only so long as they keep on the inside...
 
2012-08-06 02:58:20 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Add another reason why he gets my vote. Best candidate the Ls have offered up in...well in forever.


After the recent crackdown on the various medical marijuana setups around the country in states that sanctioned it, I plan to vote for him as well.
 
2012-08-06 03:03:05 PM  
[Plug] tag last seen at the local campaign office.
 
2012-08-06 03:06:38 PM  
SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?
 
2012-08-06 03:08:07 PM  

xanadian: SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?


Given the nature of our system, unless you live in a swing state, every vote is a a throw away vote.
 
2012-08-06 03:13:35 PM  
I wish Johnson was a viable have-a-chance-to-win candidate. I really like his views on most things. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a snowball's chance to win and the danger of a Romney Presidency is too great for me to vote for Johnson.
 
2012-08-06 03:15:42 PM  
"It should not be the purview of government to impose one set of beliefs over another"

Oddly, the people that fly Gadsden flags disagree.
 
2012-08-06 03:17:04 PM  

FTA: Unlike Mitt Romney or President Obama, Governor Johnson and I believe the right to marry who we choose is a constitutionally protected right.

o_O
 
2012-08-06 03:18:09 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: i am shocked, SHOCKED, to see some sanity coming out of either Ohio or the Libertarians.


Libertarians should support gay marriage or learn what the fark libertarian means.
 
2012-08-06 03:20:03 PM  

DamnYankees: Hero tag? Really?


In the current Tea-Tarded political landscape using common sense and sanity instead of hyperbole, bigotry, and fear takes courage.
 
2012-08-06 03:20:46 PM  
There's a real libertarian. It's not about federal versus state powers; it's about the rights of citizens to be protected from government abuses and overreach on all levels. It's about not legislating personal morality, so long as your actions do not directly harm others.
 
2012-08-06 03:20:50 PM  

xanadian: SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?


You'd get Florida, 2000?
 
2012-08-06 03:21:19 PM  

qorkfiend: FTA: Unlike Mitt Romney or President Obama, Governor Johnson and I believe the right to marry who we choose is a constitutionally protected right.

o_O


Obama said that it should be a State issue and not a Federal issue. Better stance than before, but even he is to chicken-sh@t to stand up to bigots.
 
2012-08-06 03:22:26 PM  
Wait til some Republican starts in on how employer-provided health insurance is a burden on American industry that makes it hard to compete in the world economy and we should replace it with a public system.
 
2012-08-06 03:23:17 PM  

what_now: xanadian: SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?

You'd get Florida, 2000?


oh snap
 
2012-08-06 03:23:36 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: I wish Johnson was a viable have-a-chance-to-win candidate. I really like his views on most things. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a snowball's chance to win and the danger of a Romney Presidency is too great for me to vote for Johnson.


This is why we are plagued with shiatty candidates, because everybody has this irrational fear if the other guy wins. Just vote for the best candidate.

There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.
 
2012-08-06 03:23:49 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: I wish Johnson was a viable have-a-chance-to-win candidate. I really like his views on most things. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a snowball's chance to win and the danger of a Romney Presidency is too great for me to vote for Johnson.


I don't. Gary Johnson may have a pretty good civil rights philosophy, but on economics, he's straight GOP. Which is why I could never bring myself to pull the Johnson lever.

// yeah - you read that right
 
2012-08-06 03:23:51 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: I wish Johnson was a viable have-a-chance-to-win candidate. I really like his views on most things. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a snowball's chance to win and the danger of a Romney Presidency is too great for me to vote for Johnson.


This. From what I've heard, I actually like this guy, but I'm not wasting my vote on a third party when there's so much at stake.

If he really wants to enact change, wouldn't it make sense for him to drop the Very Silly Party and join one of the big two instead?
 
2012-08-06 03:24:16 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: what_now: xanadian: SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?

You'd get Florida, 2000?

oh snap


This assumes that the people who voted Nader would have voted Gore in sufficient numbers had Nader not been on the ballot.
 
2012-08-06 03:25:45 PM  
It's gonna be tough for me to cast my anti-repubican vote for Obama, instead of Johnson.
 
2012-08-06 03:26:25 PM  

MugzyBrown:
There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.


Once in awhile someone says something smart here.
 
2012-08-06 03:26:49 PM  

Aarontology: Andrew Wiggin: what_now: xanadian: SURE, THROW ALL YOUR VOTES AWAY ON A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE!!

/imagine if a majority of people "threw away" their votes?

You'd get Florida, 2000?

oh snap

This assumes that the people who voted Nader would have voted Gore in sufficient numbers had Nader not been on the ballot.


The Bush/Gore count in Florida was 537 votes.

97,488 people voted for Nadar.

I'm thinking that yeah, some of those people regret the decision.
 
2012-08-06 03:27:32 PM  

spif: MugzyBrown:
There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.

Once in awhile someone says something smart here.


Unfortunately this is not on of those times.
 
2012-08-06 03:27:45 PM  

spif: MugzyBrown:
There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.

Once in awhile someone says something smart here.

 
2012-08-06 03:30:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.


Is that the new Republican sales pitch?
 
2012-08-06 03:31:15 PM  

MugzyBrown: There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.


There would be oh so many differences between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.
 
2012-08-06 03:31:15 PM  

MugzyBrown: There would be so very little difference between an Obama 2nd term and a Romney 1st term.


Unfortunately, that's probably true. The rich may pay a percentage point or two more in taxes under Obama.

Either way, we'll probably be at war with Iran within a year or so, though Obama will try to make it more like Libya, while Romney would just repeat the Iraq War. There are enough differences to make Obama the better choice, but they're really not that far apart.

That said, the main threat from a Republican president would be a simultaneous takeover of Congress. If the teabaggers are able to pass even a fraction of the legislation they really want, the country will go down in flames.
 
2012-08-06 03:31:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: If Johnson weren't a flat taxer and a gold nut, he'd be a pretty good candidate. Foreign-policy wise he's like Ron Paul without the racism.


Well, that and he thinks the biggest problem with the Paul Ryan plan is that it doesn't go far enough.
 
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