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(Design Observer)   In 2007, a nanny was unable to make payments on a storage locker, and its contents were sold at auction. What the bidder soon realized is that this nanny was an amazing street photographer. Here are some of her photographs   (observatory.designobserver.com) divider line 164
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-06 12:41:08 PM
They bought the physical images, not the copyright that would allow posting copies on a web page.
 
2012-08-06 12:48:12 PM

ZAZ: They bought the physical images, not the copyright that would allow posting copies on a web page.


Is that even possible to obtain from a storage locker of originals after the artist is dead?
 
2012-08-06 12:54:55 PM

vartian: ZAZ: They bought the physical images, not the copyright that would allow posting copies on a web page.

Is that even possible to obtain from a storage locker of originals after the artist is dead?


Wouldn't the copyright go to her estate like other property?
 
2012-08-06 12:54:58 PM
yuuuuuuuuuuuup
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-06 01:01:32 PM
http://vivianmaier.blogspot.com/

Wouldn't the copyright go to her estate like other property?

That's how I see it. If she had no heirs the state of Illinois probably owns the copyright.
 
2012-08-06 01:40:01 PM
how hard is it to take a picture of a street, just point the camera down to the road you are standing on and bam, street phography
/maybe oncoming traffic makes it more difficult
 
2012-08-06 01:41:13 PM
"That's a 500 dollar bill right there"
 
2012-08-06 01:41:19 PM
amazing?
 
2012-08-06 01:41:36 PM
Depends when the photographs were taken. There was no automatic copyright in the US until 1978.
 
2012-08-06 01:42:11 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: how hard is it to take a picture of a street, just point the camera down to the road you are standing on and bam, street phography
/maybe oncoming traffic makes it more difficult


I was expecting more freshman college photography of "tree shadows" and "park meadow, through the bars of a fence" type tripe, but these were actually pretty good.
 
2012-08-06 01:42:36 PM

chance4510: "That's a 500 dollar bill right there"


Sheets'll take that all day long.
 
2012-08-06 01:42:46 PM
bornagainbrazilian.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-06 01:46:29 PM
was she poor? couldn't she afford color film?
 
2012-08-06 01:46:39 PM
Farked.
 
2012-08-06 01:46:57 PM
#6 and the last one are pretty good. The rest are pretty hipster *meh* Shot on 120 film, no doubt. Its amazing what dying does to your career.

/maybe a little butthurt, but still...
//uses 120 film... amd a Rolleicord. Left my glasses and scarf at home...
 
2012-08-06 01:48:47 PM

triumphator!: amazing?


To each their own, but I think that there are some pretty impressive shots in here
 
2012-08-06 01:48:50 PM

starlost: was she poor? couldn't she afford color film?


They are color pictures. The world was just black and white.

/Farked link = haven't looked
 
2012-08-06 01:50:00 PM
Hey, armchair copyright lawyers, those photos look like they were taken before 1976. Go do some more armchairing to find out why that's relevant. Oh, I'll save you the trouble. If the pre-1976 photos were unpublished and were not registered with the LOC, there's no copyright problem for the new owner. If.
 
2012-08-06 01:50:01 PM
The one with the kids and the slide really got to me.

Guess it's the thought that on that day, he was up there helping those kids, and he's most likely dead now. Sure that's the case with any old photo, but...I dunno.

That's what art is, I guess - something that affects you for reasons you don't fully understand.
 
2012-08-06 01:51:59 PM
Her modern day equivalent here in Philly, Zoe Strauss:

Link
 
2012-08-06 01:53:03 PM
Methinks their server hath bombed.
 
2012-08-06 01:53:17 PM
www.history.com

Not sure there is a market for them
 
2012-08-06 01:54:13 PM
Beautiful photos. Good find.
 
2012-08-06 01:54:48 PM
New Orleans, LA - circa 1930

i536.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-06 01:56:35 PM

DarkHold: #6 and the last one are pretty good. The rest are pretty hipster *meh* Shot on 120 film, no doubt. Its amazing what dying does to your career.

/maybe a little butthurt, but still...
//uses 120 film... amd a Rolleicord. Left my glasses and scarf at home...


Here's to hoping your career takes off soon!

/I jest!
 
2012-08-06 01:59:05 PM
I told you Fran Drescher had talent!

/Just not acting talent
 
2012-08-06 01:59:59 PM
kungfu jesus with a side of lime
how hard is it to take a picture of a street, just point the camera down to the road you are standing on and bam, street phography
/maybe oncoming traffic makes it more difficult


You are obviously not a Roads Scholar.
 
2012-08-06 02:00:15 PM

DarkHold: #6 and the last one are pretty good. The rest are pretty hipster *meh* Shot on 120 film, no doubt. Its amazing what dying does to your career.

/maybe a little butthurt, but still...
//uses 120 film... amd a Rolleicord. Left my glasses and scarf at home...


The photos here are far better than in the link: Vivian Maier
They're outstanding.
 
2012-08-06 02:01:41 PM

ZAZ: http://vivianmaier.blogspot.com/

Wouldn't the copyright go to her estate like other property?

That's how I see it. If she had no heirs the state of Illinois probably owns the copyright.


dnrtfa or your link... but, I'm assuming the issue is more of a privilege in favor of the storage locker owner.

when you put stuff in a storage locker (or apartment, or whatever space you lease) that usually means you have granted on automatic security interest, or more specifically, a privilege, on all the crap you leave in there. This privilege exists to provide security that you'll pay your rent. when you don't, then the owner can pursue that property to satisfy his bill.

although, i don't know how copyright stuff works or if it's even applicable here -- he's just selling the stuff.

/ again, i didn't read the article, so...
 
2012-08-06 02:03:01 PM

ZAZ: They bought the physical images, not the copyright that would allow posting copies on a web page.


Oh my, but people still don't understand the concept of a copyright. The article properly credits the photographer and the publisher is not distributing copies of the photos for profit. Hence there are no any copyright considerations here.
 
2012-08-06 02:04:19 PM

vartian: ZAZ: They bought the physical images, not the copyright that would allow posting copies on a web page.

Is that even possible to obtain from a storage locker of originals after the artist is dead?


Ee-YUP
 
2012-08-06 02:04:39 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: how hard is it to take a picture of a street, just point the camera down to the road you are standing on and bam, street phography
/maybe oncoming traffic makes it more difficult


Dude, go try it. Talk crap about it once somebody gives you acclaim.
 
2012-08-06 02:05:33 PM

rufus-t-firefly: The one with the kids and the slide really got to me.

Guess it's the thought that on that day, he was up there helping those kids, and he's most likely dead now. Sure that's the case with any old photo, but...I dunno.

That's what art is, I guess - something that affects you for reasons you don't fully understand.


That photo is from the 1960 it's possible everyone in that photo is still alive. The guy would only be about 80 to 82 years old maybe even 75ish.
 
2012-08-06 02:05:42 PM

Fark In The Duck: New Orleans, LA - circa 1930

[i536.photobucket.com image 525x520]


Staten Island Ferry.
 
2012-08-06 02:05:59 PM

oldnewjersey: Farked.


root@localhost? Hey, I have one of those! Wanna borrow it, website admin guy?
Also available is 127.0.0.1 in case you need a place to stay.
 
2012-08-06 02:07:18 PM

whatshisname: DarkHold: #6 and the last one are pretty good. The rest are pretty hipster *meh* Shot on 120 film, no doubt. Its amazing what dying does to your career.

/maybe a little butthurt, but still...
//uses 120 film... amd a Rolleicord. Left my glasses and scarf at home...

The photos here are far better than in the link: Vivian Maier
They're outstanding.


I stand corrected. WTF did they use her weakest photos in that link?
 
2012-08-06 02:09:25 PM
c341346.r46.cf1.rackcdn.com

Hello, Newman.
 
2012-08-06 02:09:35 PM
Her name wasn't Hester Mofet, by any chance?

/surely not obscure
 
2012-08-06 02:11:23 PM
www.accidentalmysteries.com

Click a couple links and next thing you know, total weirdness...
 
2012-08-06 02:11:47 PM

Fark In The Duck: New Orleans, LA - circa 1930

[i536.photobucket.com image 525x520]


ISWYDT
 
2012-08-06 02:13:55 PM
That's the wow factor right there!

/amidoinitrite?
 
2012-08-06 02:14:19 PM
From the bottom of vivianmaier.com: © 2012 Maloof Collection, Ltd. - All Rights Reserved

That is one of the 3 parties that bought the photos, negatives, and undeveloped rolls.

It is property and rights to its use goes with the purchaser.
 
2012-08-06 02:17:23 PM

triumphator!: amazing?


This went green last year, I think.
 
2012-08-06 02:17:29 PM
www.brandipassante.net

www.storageauctionskings.com

Seeing as this is a Storage Locker thread, anyone out there besides me think Brandi has a nice rack???

unit-pic.twittweb.com

i4.ytimg.com
 
2012-08-06 02:20:06 PM

rufus-t-firefly: The one with the kids and the slide really got to me.

Guess it's the thought that on that day, he was up there helping those kids, and he's most likely dead now. Sure that's the case with any old photo, but...I dunno.

That's what art is, I guess - something that affects you for reasons you don't fully understand.


I always think that when I look at old pictures from the Civil War or World War I time period, even WWII to a lesser extent. You see these pictures of young, in shape guys, clearly in the prime of their lives, and you realize that every single person in those pictures is dead, some from the war, but most due to old age, disease, or one of a thousand other things. I was reading a WWI book a while back, and there was a photo of an entire battalion, right before they went overseas. Over 1000 officers and men, and not one person that is in that picture is alive.
 
2012-08-06 02:21:49 PM
Brandi is an ex stripper.

starcasm.net
 
2012-08-06 02:22:06 PM
She had a pretty good eye.
 
2012-08-06 02:22:39 PM
A lot of those photos could be captioned "biatch why the fark are you taking my photo"
 
2012-08-06 02:22:53 PM
All the times I've visited Las Vegas I'd see people sleeping on the streets, if only I took their photos I'd be rich.
 
2012-08-06 02:26:04 PM

JackieRabbit: Oh my, but people still don't understand the concept of a copyright. The article properly credits the photographer and the publisher is not distributing copies of the photos for profit. Hence there are no any copyright considerations here.


Profit is not relevant to copyright. Copying is relevant to copyright. Do you think Disney wouldn't complain everyone started using Mickey Mouse icons to indicate a link to a supporting source?

Even if you own a Mickey Mouse cel, that ownership does not give you any right to copy that image. As far as I know, Disney et al still hold that copyright.
 
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