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2012-08-06 10:55:09 AM
That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.
 
2012-08-06 10:59:37 AM

sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.


Was there ever a point when treating everyone equally was not a contentious issue?
 
2012-08-06 11:04:13 AM
Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!
 
2012-08-06 11:06:10 AM
 
2012-08-06 11:06:52 AM

qorkfiend: sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.

Was there ever a point when treating everyone equally was not a contentious issue?


I think the problem is we keep realizing there are all types of new and interesting people to dislike.
 
2012-08-06 11:10:46 AM
We'll know the corner is truly turned when voters say so.
 
2012-08-06 11:11:27 AM
I used to be proud that Minnesota didn't have the same Tea Tard Bible Pounders in our GOP. Then Bachmann and this crap started after mid-term elections.
 
2012-08-06 11:13:03 AM

nyseattitude: sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.

I expect nothing less from these type of people.

In 2010, Tea Party legislators narrowly took control of the Minnesota legislature, and in May of 2011, the Minnesota legislature voted to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot that would constitutionally ban gay and lesbian couples from marrying.


Because that's how you take control of your country's and state's financial difficulties.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 
2012-08-06 11:14:06 AM
1m is a decent start but it's barely a drop in the bucket compared to the kind of money that the social conservative and religious groups that will be opposing this yet again will bring to the table.
 
2012-08-06 11:19:51 AM
That headline is fabulous
 
2012-08-06 11:20:39 AM

Snapper Carr: 1m is a decent start but it's barely a drop in the bucket compared to the kind of money that the social conservative and religious groups that will be opposing this yet again will bring to the table.


Maybe in other parts of the country, but this is a big damned deal in WA and there's a ton of money coming in from the gay rights camp.
 
2012-08-06 11:24:46 AM

nyseattitude: sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.

I expect nothing less from these type of people.

In 2010, Tea Party legislators narrowly took control of the Minnesota legislature, and in May of 2011, the Minnesota legislature voted to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot that would constitutionally ban gay and lesbian couples from marrying.


The fact that there was more disagreement and pain over getting the voter ID (passed) and right to work (failed) amendments then pushing through an amendment to enshrine bigotry in our constitution goes to prove that social issues and the tea party are linked in this state. So much for "small government" and "only focusing on fiscal issues".
 
2012-08-06 11:24:51 AM

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!


So, what's your opinion on gay rights?
 
2012-08-06 11:31:15 AM

RulerOfNone: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!

So, what's your opinion on gay rights?


You know what the Bible says about gay rights?
 
2012-08-06 11:31:54 AM

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!


Is it physically painful to be as stupid as you are?
 
2012-08-06 11:33:33 AM

sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.


Marriage is more than a personally rewarding social custom. It is also critical for the well-being of a civilization. That is why it is so important to preserve traditional marriage - the joining together of one man and one woman. As president, Mitt will not only appoint an Attorney General who will defend the Defense of Marriage Act - a bipartisan law passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton - but he will also champion a Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman.
 
2012-08-06 11:40:14 AM

Pincy: RulerOfNone: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!

So, what's your opinion on gay rights?

You know what the Bible says about gay rights?


Not a whole heaping hell of a lot.
 
2012-08-06 11:41:18 AM

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!


...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. (Unless it polls well)
 
2012-08-06 11:42:17 AM
$70 for a Cher ticket? Is that after the Ticketmaster fees?

LasersHurt: I think the problem is we keep realizing there are all types of new and interesting people to dislike.


Aww, man, more people to dislike? But I was just getting good at really loathing the last set of new and interesting people.
 
2012-08-06 11:47:48 AM
By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.
 
2012-08-06 11:49:55 AM

smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.


Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.
 
2012-08-06 11:53:05 AM

smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.


A referendum scheduled for a vote during the Republican primary indicates that Republicans don't support same-sex marriage. Surprise!
 
2012-08-06 11:53:53 AM

Pincy: RulerOfNone: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Polls show that support for gay marriage is increasing, which is why a majority of states have rejected it since 2004.

but..but..equality!

So, what's your opinion on gay rights?

You know what the Bible says about gay rights?


You know what the Constitution says about the Bible?
 
2012-08-06 11:57:29 AM
How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
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2012-08-06 11:59:44 AM

smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
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I doubt it. At least when you go to Chick-fil-a, you get a delicious chicken sandwich.
 
2012-08-06 12:04:05 PM

smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]


Surprise, fat bigoted teabaggers show up for food.
 
2012-08-06 12:06:01 PM
If you don't agree with equal rights for gay people, you don't agree with the Constitution.

FTFConstitution: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Un-American jackasses.

/Why don't more people push this little factoid?
//Unlike the "Jesus hates teh ghey" meme, it's actually true.
 
2012-08-06 12:06:43 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]

Surprise, fat bigoted teabaggers show up for food.


It was the Teabaggers that were calling for the boycott.
 
2012-08-06 12:08:00 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.


Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?
 
2012-08-06 12:10:51 PM

gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?


Is the 19th busy fixing you breakfast?
 
2012-08-06 12:11:34 PM
Still waiting for the rational, non-religious, reason for outlawing marriage equality.

/still waiting...
 
2012-08-06 12:12:46 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: /Why don't more people push this little factoid

fact?

/FTFM.
//Derp.
 
2012-08-06 12:13:00 PM

gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?


It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.
 
2012-08-06 12:13:58 PM

smitty04: YoungSwedishBlonde: smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]

Surprise, fat bigoted teabaggers show up for food.

It was the Teabaggers that were calling for the boycott.


Eh?
 
2012-08-06 12:14:58 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.


And shockingly enough, it was! The problem was that some people - white Southern racist morons, to be precise - needed some extra clarification. It's only natural; their reading skills are sub-par.
 
2012-08-06 12:17:36 PM

theknuckler_33: smitty04: YoungSwedishBlonde: smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]

Surprise, fat bigoted teabaggers show up for food.

It was the Teabaggers that were calling for the boycott.

Eh?


You need to look up what teabagging means and why Anderson Cooper picked up on it immediately.
 
2012-08-06 12:17:56 PM
No religious group has opposed gay marriage.

Idiots misreading the bible, yes, but religious groups? Not a single one.
 
2012-08-06 12:18:44 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.


Instead of having to amend the stupid thing every time we have a revelation that time doesn't stand still and societal progress happens no matter the era, we should scrap it and rewrite a new one that sets us up for a modern society and actually does what the original was supposed to.

'Interpretation' of how one speculation of a long-dead man whose position on said speculation cannot be known in regards to a document he could have found lacking is useful for religion, not federal law.
 
2012-08-06 12:21:41 PM

smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
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Unless those polling stations have fried chicken, it's going to be hard to convince those fat farks to go anywhere.
 
2012-08-06 12:21:50 PM

Epoch_Zero: Philip Francis Queeg: gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.

Instead of having to amend the stupid thing every time we have a revelation that time doesn't stand still and societal progress happens no matter the era, we should scrap it and rewrite a new one that sets us up for a modern society and actually does what the original was supposed to.

'Interpretation' of how one speculation of a long-dead man whose position on said speculation cannot be known in regards to a document he could have found lacking is useful for religion, not federal law.


Or we could just acknowledge that the 14th Amendment means what it says without exception.
 
2012-08-06 12:22:22 PM

Citrate1007: I used to be proud that Minnesota didn't have the same Tea Tard Bible Pounders in our GOP. Then Bachmann and this crap started after mid-term elections.


If Mark Dayton had lost, you wouldn't have ever heard of Scott Walker, with all the assraping the tea party would be doing to a prettt progresive state like minnesota
 
2012-08-06 12:22:45 PM

smitty04: How much did they invest in the Chic-fil-A boycott?
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If that's the case, we'll need wider voting booths.
 
2012-08-06 12:23:37 PM

qorkfiend: And shockingly enough, it was! The problem was that some people - white Southern racist morons, to be precise - needed some extra clarification. It's only natural; their reading skills are sub-par.


Read.
freemarry.3cdn.net
 
2012-08-06 12:25:40 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.


That would be the US Constitution which was also put up to ratification vote, yes? The one which allowed for an explicit amendment process, guaranteed the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and so on.
 
2012-08-06 12:28:37 PM

gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: gerrymander: Philip Francis Queeg: smitty04: By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
Published: May 8, 2012

As expected, North Carolinians voted in large numbers on Tuesday for an amendment that would ban same-sex marriages, partnerships and civil unions, becoming the 30th state in the country and the last in the South to include a prohibition on gay marriage in the state constitution.

Bigotry is popular. That's why the equal protections of the law should never be put up to a vote.

Never? Not even in the cases of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

It would have been best if the Constitution had been written to extend the equal protections of the law to all with out requiring those votes.

That would be the US Constitution which was also put up to ratification vote, yes? The one which allowed for an explicit amendment process, guaranteed the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and so on.


What other rights should we be voting on in your opinion? What other groups should have their access to the equal protections of the law put up to a referendum? Which of your rights would you like put up to a popular vote?
 
2012-08-06 12:32:00 PM

qorkfiend: sprawl15: That the idea of treating everyone equally is even a contentious issue nowadays is disgusting.

Was there ever a point when treating everyone equally was not a contentious issue?


Pretty much.

We are currently in the midst of a social change on the subject of gay marriage. The number of people in support of it has just barely budged over 50% in the last year or so, and demographic trends indicate that it will only increase.

But just because the legalization of gay marriage across the entire country is inevitable in the long run, it's pretty understandable that a lot of people aren't ready for it. Some people can't grasp the concept of separation of church and state (which mind you exists as much to protect the church as it does the state), some people don't like change, and some people just hate anything that's different from them. This is how it's always been, we've gotten a lot better over the years, but ultimately the baseline was set far too low to realistically overcome by this point.
 
2012-08-06 12:36:00 PM

Non-evil Monkey: But just because the legalization of gay marriage across the entire country is inevitable in the long run, it's pretty understandable that a lot of people aren't ready for it.


Personal 'eew' views do not trump civil rights. These people are denying other humans their basic rights on a daily basis. No amount of 'oh, well they just can't accept it' is a valid excuse.

Perhaps they'd understand if a bill was brought to the floor that could ban the buying of guns if one is a registered republican or over the age of 50?

I'm certainly uncomfortable with so many addling old people having access to firearms. I'm sure I could find a lot of people who also think so, so why should they have that right? Let's vote.
 
2012-08-06 12:40:00 PM

smitty04: qorkfiend: And shockingly enough, it was! The problem was that some people - white Southern racist morons, to be precise - needed some extra clarification. It's only natural; their reading skills are sub-par.

Read.
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I can only assume there's a point to that, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.
 
2012-08-06 12:42:37 PM

Epoch_Zero: I'm certainly uncomfortable with so many addling old people having access to firearms. I'm sure I could find a lot of people who also think so, so why should they have that right? Let's vote.


Young Obama Democrats should not have guns.

CHICAGO - Maybe it is the splintering of established drug gangs that has young men grabbing the tools of their trade - handguns - to jockey for position? Or it is that rival gangs, once miles apart in different public housing complexes, suddenly finding themselves sharing the same street corner?
Whatever the reasons, Chicago has seen a spike in its homicide rate - with eight killed and at least 35 wounded in a spasm of gunfire last weekend alone - that has authorities scrambling to put more police on the street and some frightened residents retreating deep into their homes.
 
2012-08-06 12:42:48 PM

qorkfiend: smitty04: qorkfiend: And shockingly enough, it was! The problem was that some people - white Southern racist morons, to be precise - needed some extra clarification. It's only natural; their reading skills are sub-par.

Read.
[freemarry.3cdn.net image 554x619]

I can only assume there's a point to that, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.


People are proud of their backwards, soon-to-be irrelevant views.
 
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