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(NASCAR)   Lightning strike at Pocono kills race fan, injures nine others   (nascar.com) divider line 106
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2012-08-06 07:19:35 AM

mc_madness: People actually pay money to sit in stands and watch cars go in circles?

How retarded or Southern do you have to be to do that? lol


First of all, they drive in ovals. Second, it makes just as much sense as any spectator sport. I don't understand paying money to watch grown men play schoolyard games but, hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
2012-08-06 07:27:12 AM

intelligent comment below: Why wasn't the race postponed when lightning was coming into the area?


It was. The strike occurred as people were leaving.
 
2012-08-06 07:33:14 AM
Well, it was a very bad storm with plenty of warning. But they pack themselves on like sardines. Takes forever to move through the crowds. Add to the fact that if I was at my car during a lightning storm, especially one that bad, I would have been inside my vehicle. Not outside it. I was afraid and I was in my house.
 
2012-08-06 07:35:25 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Either way, this really sucks for the fan who was hit and the fans who were hurt. Fark herp-derp aside, I hope they look into the timings of official warnings etc. to try to prevent a repeat.


Lightening is about as unpredictable as an event could be. A couple of years ago, my wife was playing tennis. Her and her partner could hear thunder off in the distance. Even though it was sunny, they decided to pack it in. Just as the left the parking lot, a bolt of lightening hit the court the were playing on. One guy who had just gotten there got sent to the hospital.

That bolt of lightening came from a storm over 10 miles away! And it struck in a place where it was still sunny. The point is, when there are storms in the area, it's best to be cautious and take cover. I don't think that the track responded poorly. They knew the storm was coming, they called the race, and warned everyone to take cover.

I don't think they could have done more than that.
 
2012-08-06 07:39:51 AM
Lightning strikes and Gordon wins.
Harumpfh.....
 
2012-08-06 07:41:37 AM
I see the NASCAR trolls are out in full force.

Whassa matter guys? Still sore that our heroes aren't thugs, constantly getting arrested, having babies with multiple women & shooting up nightclubs? You see, having a sport where you actually put your life on the line every time you participate gives you a bit more of a mature perspective on life. This perspective rubs off on your fans as well. You never hear of NASCAR fans sacking, pillaging and burning their own cities when their hometown driver wins the championship, do you?

That said- WTF, somebody has to die for Gordon to win a race anymore?
 
2012-08-06 07:48:35 AM

mc_madness: People actually pay money to sit in stands and watch cars go in circles?

How retarded or Southern do you have to be to do that? lol


There are no circular Nascar tracks, just ovals and otherwise.
This is Pocono, note the non-circular shape. RIP crispy race fan.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-06 08:02:30 AM

stoli n coke: Grave_Girl: Must have taken Earnhardt's name in vain.

Fark Earnhardt. He made thousands of left turns and everyone thought he was an asshole. Then he missed one right turn and those same people tried to make him a goddamn saint.

Newsflash, Dipshiat, you're supposed to prevent the car from hitting the wall.
How does it feel to know your dad was a moron, Dale, Jr?


www.news-journalonline.com

Scowls at your shenanigans.
 
2012-08-06 08:17:47 AM

libranoelrose: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Rapist. Damn keyboard

Sure. Blame the victim.


Have you seen the caps lock? Damn thing was practically begging for it.
 
2012-08-06 08:19:17 AM
www.freeverse.com
 
2012-08-06 08:41:25 AM

Pachelbel: 10 Trolls, and not one of them has made an original joke.

Where's your hate for every other sport? Even ethnically and financially, the fanbase for NASCAR extremely close to every other major sport in North America.


I happily dislike all those other sports too... last time I saw a live sport event it was a social event, someone else paid, and I didn't watch the game.

That said, at least most of the other sports require actual physical prowess. Nascar is less of a sport than golf, on par with billiards or Starcraft.
 
2012-08-06 08:46:18 AM

Somacandra: In before "God's revenge for the Wisconsin shootings" douchebaggery.


Hey, you said it...
 
2012-08-06 08:52:20 AM

mc_madness: People actually pay money to sit in stands and watch cars go in circles?

How retarded or Southern do you have to be to do that? lol


Just for the record, rural Pennsylvanians are (on average) at least twice as retarded as Southerns.

/family's from upstate PA
//thankful I was born in civilization.
 
2012-08-06 08:53:42 AM
Did the lighting strike victim..... shake and bake?

YEEEEEEEAH

/Love you Ricky Bobby
 
2012-08-06 09:08:51 AM

LazarusLong42: That said, at least most of the other sports require actual physical prowess. Nascar is less of a sport than golf, on par with billiards or Starcraft.


1) NASCAR participants risk death, just practicing. In fact, just about every other sport can be played at local parks. Not auto racing.
2) While any diminutive person can be a driver, this doesn't exactly mean that the sport is totally removed from the realm of the physical. Drivers have to have a keen sense of balance and sense of touch to transfer their vehicle from relative stability to the very edge of wiping out, hundreds of times an hour, for hours at a time. In addition, you've got to be able to feel the resistance the air puts on your car. Dale Earnhardt was a tremendously successful driver in restrictor plate racing. So much so, that they used to say that he could actually "see" the air. He was also one of the most aggressive drivers in the history of the sport, which is why they used to call him "The Intimidator". How ironic that he died from driving defensively, rather than going all-out, trying to win, because he owned all the cars that were in front of him that day.

Are you aware that it takes more than a little effort to keep the car traveling in a straight line, due to the bias built into the steering and suspension? In fact, the sport is more reliant on physics than any other, and you'd better have somebody with an advanced degree on the team just to be competitive. Usually a whole team of physicists.
 
2012-08-06 09:09:07 AM
FTFA: He added that the track broadcasted warnings for spectators to take cover.

How American. Your first statement includes you trying to sheild yourself from lawsuits.
 
2012-08-06 09:10:18 AM

JoeyJoJo: Pachelbel: 10 Trolls, and not one of them has made an original joke.

I disagree, I thought this one was original and funny.



You have low standards.
Was pissed that Dale Jr. Blew a tranny after having such a great start.

\Wait..
\\Whut??
 
2012-08-06 09:11:08 AM

Dwight_Yeast: /family's from upstate PA


WTF is "upstate PA?" Do you mean the northern tier?
 
2012-08-06 09:15:42 AM

amindtat: Dwight_Yeast: /family's from upstate PA

WTF is "upstate PA?" Do you mean the northern tier?


Well look at that...apparently I've lived in it for 42 years and never heard the term before. But then again, the animals at the zoo probably don't know the name of their zoo either.
 
2012-08-06 09:17:44 AM

Pachelbel: 10 Trolls, and not one of them has made an original joke.


Dude, you do realize that the NASCAR fans you are defending think your Canon is something that gets fired off and makes a loud BANG sound, right?

Pachelbel: Where's your hate for every other sport? Even ethnically and financially, the fanbase for NASCAR extremely close to every other major sport in North America.


Oh, it's there, but we just like to save it for relevant threads. This one is about NASCAR, hence the NASCAR hate. It would be kind of silly for this discussion to revolve around, say, the stupidity of a bunch of fat, old men whacking tiny white balls with metal sticks, and then driving slowly after them, in electric toy cars, don't you think?
 
2012-08-06 09:22:51 AM

MadAzza: A: A good start.


Disappointed...
 
2012-08-06 09:29:44 AM

HAMMERTOE: LazarusLong42: That said, at least most of the other sports require actual physical prowess. Nascar is less of a sport than golf, on par with billiards or Starcraft.

1) NASCAR participants risk death, just practicing. In fact, just about every other sport can be played at local parks. Not auto racing.
2) While any diminutive person can be a driver, this doesn't exactly mean that the sport is totally removed from the realm of the physical. Drivers have to have a keen sense of balance and sense of touch to transfer their vehicle from relative stability to the very edge of wiping out, hundreds of times an hour, for hours at a time. In addition, you've got to be able to feel the resistance the air puts on your car. Dale Earnhardt was a tremendously successful driver in restrictor plate racing. So much so, that they used to say that he could actually "see" the air. He was also one of the most aggressive drivers in the history of the sport, which is why they used to call him "The Intimidator". How ironic that he died from driving defensively, rather than going all-out, trying to win, because he owned all the cars that were in front of him that day.

Are you aware that it takes more than a little effort to keep the car traveling in a straight line, due to the bias built into the steering and suspension? In fact, the sport is more reliant on physics than any other, and you'd better have somebody with an advanced degree on the team just to be competitive. Usually a whole team of physicists.


It's always funny to me, when people try to defend the sports which interest them. I have a friend who keeps insisting to me that baseball is such an amazing game, and he will expound, at length, on the physics involved. Guess what? I still don't care. Regardless of the physics, it's still boring, and while I can almost understand how people might want to play it, I will never get the attraction of watching it on TV. It's about as exciting as watching gardening.

At least NASCAR has the potential for some spectacular death and destruction. Still not watching all the boring driving waiting for it to happen, though.
 
2012-08-06 09:41:19 AM
Well this was a great way to flesh out my ignore list. Thanks fellas !
 
2012-08-06 09:58:21 AM
I don't hate NASCAR, I hate the fans it produces.
 
2012-08-06 10:02:10 AM

CheekyMonkey: It's always funny to me, when people try to defend the sports which interest them. I have a friend who keeps insisting to me that baseball is such an amazing game, and he will expound, at length, on the physics involved. Guess what? I still don't care. Regardless of the physics, it's still boring, and while I can almost understand how people might want to play it, I will never get the attraction of watching it on TV. It's about as exciting as watching gardening.

At least NASCAR has the potential for some spectacular death and destruction. Still not watching all the boring driving waiting for it to happen, though.


Actually, I'm an ex-fan. I lost interestt when they came up with the whole "Chase" format. It smacks of administrative bullshiat now, in an obvious effort to dumb it down so it will be competitive in the media market with other "play-off" sports. NASCAR supposedly wants to "limit the effect of big money" in the sport, except for the effect that "big money" has on lining their own pockets. Besides, the "Chase" literally devalues the entire first 2/3 of the season, and I've usually got other stuff going on by the latter 1/3. I haven't watched a full race in years now. I might listen to one if I'm on a long drive and I happen to hear it on the radio. *But*-- I do have to give props to the fact that they expect nothing less than respectability from the participants. Had Michael Vick been a NASCAR driver, he'd be history, relegated to driving hoopies at local tracks for the rest of his career.
 
2012-08-06 10:25:30 AM

HAMMERTOE: CheekyMonkey: It's always funny to me, when people try to defend the sports which interest them. I have a friend who keeps insisting to me that baseball is such an amazing game, and he will expound, at length, on the physics involved. Guess what? I still don't care. Regardless of the physics, it's still boring, and while I can almost understand how people might want to play it, I will never get the attraction of watching it on TV. It's about as exciting as watching gardening.

At least NASCAR has the potential for some spectacular death and destruction. Still not watching all the boring driving waiting for it to happen, though.

Actually, I'm an ex-fan. I lost interestt when they came up with the whole "Chase" format. It smacks of administrative bullshiat now, in an obvious effort to dumb it down so it will be competitive in the media market with other "play-off" sports. NASCAR supposedly wants to "limit the effect of big money" in the sport, except for the effect that "big money" has on lining their own pockets. Besides, the "Chase" literally devalues the entire first 2/3 of the season, and I've usually got other stuff going on by the latter 1/3. I haven't watched a full race in years now. I might listen to one if I'm on a long drive and I happen to hear it on the radio. *But*-- I do have to give props to the fact that they expect nothing less than respectability from the participants. Had Michael Vick been a NASCAR driver, he'd be history, relegated to driving hoopies at local tracks for the rest of his career.


I'm an ex-fan too. I just lost interest earlier - during the 2nd lap of the first race I saw.
 
2012-08-06 10:29:28 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bongo Blue: This just in:
Lightning does'nt care what you are doing when it nails you!

Natures rapest?


coffee everywhere, you bastard
 
2012-08-06 11:10:55 AM

stoli n coke: Grave_Girl: Must have taken Earnhardt's name in vain.

Fark Earnhardt. He made thousands of left turns and everyone thought he was an asshole. Then he missed one right turn and those same people tried to make him a goddamn saint.

Newsflash, Dipshiat, you're supposed to prevent the car from hitting the wall.
How does it feel to know your dad was a moron, Dale, Jr?


Ah, I see. You're a Jeff Gordon fan.
 
2012-08-06 11:28:17 AM

HAMMERTOE: I see the NASCAR trolls are out in full force.

Whassa matter guys? Still sore that our heroes aren't thugs, constantly getting arrested, having babies with multiple women & shooting up nightclubs?


Mayfield and Allmandinger would like a word with you...
 
2012-08-06 11:30:49 AM

HAMMERTOE: CheekyMonkey: It's always funny to me, when people try to defend the sports which interest them. I have a friend who keeps insisting to me that baseball is such an amazing game, and he will expound, at length, on the physics involved. Guess what? I still don't care. Regardless of the physics, it's still boring, and while I can almost understand how people might want to play it, I will never get the attraction of watching it on TV. It's about as exciting as watching gardening.

At least NASCAR has the potential for some spectacular death and destruction. Still not watching all the boring driving waiting for it to happen, though.

Actually, I'm an ex-fan. I lost interestt when they came up with the whole "Chase" format. It smacks of administrative bullshiat now, in an obvious effort to dumb it down so it will be competitive in the media market with other "play-off" sports. NASCAR supposedly wants to "limit the effect of big money" in the sport, except for the effect that "big money" has on lining their own pockets. Besides, the "Chase" literally devalues the entire first 2/3 of the season, and I've usually got other stuff going on by the latter 1/3. I haven't watched a full race in years now. I might listen to one if I'm on a long drive and I happen to hear it on the radio. *But*-- I do have to give props to the fact that they expect nothing less than respectability from the participants. Had Michael Vick been a NASCAR driver, he'd be history, relegated to driving hoopies at local tracks for the rest of his career.


I'm also an ex-fan. Haven't watched a race since the bullshiat conclusion to the 2010 season, won't watch another race until the entire Chase format is gone and Brian France is standing outside Daytona holding a sign that says "Will suck dick and ruin sport for food"
 
2012-08-06 11:40:44 AM
Westboro Baptist tries to take credit
 
2012-08-06 12:14:22 PM
Must have been greased lightning.
 
2012-08-06 12:37:30 PM

FirstNationalBastard: bullshiat conclusion to the 2010 season


Please elaborate. Not that I disagree with your opinion, but I wonder how that season was more bs than all of them since Kenseth won in 2003.
 
2012-08-06 12:39:02 PM

Odd Bird: MadAzza: A: A good start.


Disappointed...


I'm sorry. I only did it because the low-hanging fruit was right there ...
 
2012-08-06 12:58:08 PM

HAMMERTOE: LazarusLong42: That said, at least most of the other sports require actual physical prowess. Nascar is less of a sport than golf, on par with billiards or Starcraft.

1) NASCAR participants risk death, just practicing. In fact, just about every other sport can be played at local parks. Not auto racing.


Extreme danger does not make it a sport. People risk their lives firefighting too, but I don't think anyone's going to watch that in a giant arena anytime soon. The fact that it's done while someone is in mortal danger doesn't make it any more a sport, though it does call into question the sanity of the drivers. The fact that many people acknowledge that the whole reason to watch is to see a giant crash, where someone might possibly die, calls into question the sanity of the fans, who apparently are just fine with watching someone die on national television.

2) While any diminutive person can be a driver, this doesn't exactly mean that the sport is totally removed from the realm of the physical. Drivers have to have a keen sense of balance and sense of touch to transfer their vehicle from relative stability to the very edge of wiping out, hundreds of times an hour, for hours at a time. In addition, you've got to be able to feel the resistance the air puts on your car...

Are you aware that it takes more than a little effort to keep the car traveling in a straight line, due to the bias built into the steering and suspension? In fact, the sport is more reliant on physics than any other, and you'd better have somebody with an advanced degree on the team just to be competitive. Usually a whole team of physicists.


You have given an excellently accurate description of exactly why it's more like billiards or Starcraft than swimming or football! It doesn't require strength, agility, or endurance; it requires brain power, skill, and muscle memory. It's reliant on a team of physicists and engineers, rather than actual physical prowess.

Several Olympic (and other) "sports" have this same trouble: shooting/archery (except for biathlon), dressage (horse dancing), golf, bowling. Obviously in terms of sports, all of these require more physical ability than chess and other mental "sports."
 
2012-08-06 01:10:05 PM

Odd Bird: MadAzza: A: A good start.


Disappointed...


... and you know I hate to disappoint you.
 
2012-08-06 01:12:27 PM

Meatschool: FirstNationalBastard: bullshiat conclusion to the 2010 season

Please elaborate. Not that I disagree with your opinion, but I wonder how that season was more bs than all of them since Kenseth won in 2003.


2010 was Kevin Harvick's championship. Without the bullshiat chase, he would have ran away with the title.

The only other runaway championship that was denied the rightful champion was Jeff Gordon in 2007. But, since it was Gordon, I didn't really care too much.

And seeing Johnson given a 5th championship in a row, it was time for me to stop watching this particular brand of scripted sports entertainment.
 
2012-08-06 01:18:12 PM

FirstNationalBastard: he would have ran away with the title


This is true. Gotcha. Thanks.
 
2012-08-06 01:26:12 PM

MadAzza: Odd Bird: MadAzza: A: A good start.

Disappointed...

... and you know I hate to disappoint you.


Someone needs to be taught a lesson.
 
2012-08-06 01:54:30 PM

Pachelbel: 10 Trolls, and not one of them has made an original joke.

Where's your hate for every other sport? Even ethnically and financially, the fanbase for NASCAR extremely close to every other major sport in North America.


Welcome to FARK, try not to cry on your way out...
 
2012-08-06 02:30:08 PM
i so very rarely say this and mean it, but my headline was better

"Shocking finish at today's NASCAR race"
 
2012-08-06 02:39:22 PM

aNihilV10L8tr: HAMMERTOE: I see the NASCAR trolls are out in full force.

Whassa matter guys? Still sore that our heroes aren't thugs, constantly getting arrested, having babies with multiple women & shooting up nightclubs?

Mayfield and Allmandinger would like a word with you...


Just Mayfield.
Allmendinger claims not to know how he f*cked up, but admits that he did f*ck up.
Even when he was busted with tens of thousands of dollars of stolen equipment in his house, Mayfield has claimed that this has all been part of a vendetta against him.
 
2012-08-06 03:09:34 PM

aNihilV10L8tr: Mayfield and Allmandinger would like a word with you...


And where are they now? As soon as they get in trouble, they're o-u-t. Meanwhile, Vick's back in uniform.
 
2012-08-06 05:17:17 PM

Pachelbel: 10 Trolls, and not one of them has made an original joke.

Where's your hate for every other sport? Even ethnically and financially, the fanbase for NASCAR extremely close to every other major sport in North America.


In fact, the science/physics/engineering/cost that goes into this sport could very well surpass that of any other sport out there.
 
2012-08-06 05:20:14 PM

Mock26: Meh, just a NASCAR fan. It is not like we lost a Doctor or Rocket Scientist.


Sanjay Gupta.

NASCAR Fan.

Google it, not doing your work for you.
 
2012-08-06 05:27:41 PM

Jensaarai: stoli n coke: Jensaarai: I don't know why Stoli n Coke is saying nicer things about Earnhardt than most Fark NASCAR fans have when the guy is brought up, but that's no reason to pick on him, folks.

No worries. I watched NASCAR as a teenager, and always thought it was funny that Earnhardt was almost universally hated until the one day he didn't do his job correctly. Then suddenly, he's on farking commemorative plates and idiots everywhere are in tears.

An actual soundbite from his death was a fan moaning "He drove a car till the day he died!" You know who else does that? EVERY person who is killed in a car wreck when they're behind the wheel. Doesn't make you special.

Personally, I find the fact that so many "sports journalists" credit him with certain safety advances to be the biggest joke. Half of those advances were things he actively fought against being required, like full faced helmets and head restraints. The guy is truly lucky that he was the one who had a head on collision like that before it was his son, who also picked up a lot of his bad habits before he was old enough to know better.

Either way, this really sucks for the fan who was hit and the fans who were hurt. Fark herp-derp aside, I hope they look into the timings of official warnings etc. to try to prevent a repeat. Anyone whose actually been to a NASCAR event, especially in a non-traditional area like Pocono, knows folks of all sorts go there for different reasons. This could've been someone just going for a day out, or to drink with friends, or a resentful teenage son with future plans to troll the Internet about the type of event he was dragged to.


Well-played. We go to Talladega each year and have an awesome time. It's a mixture of good people, good food, and some of the most brilliant engineers there are watching their hard work do 200+mph. That aside, the past 2-3 spring races have been a nightmare as far as weather goes. Last year, there were major storm outbreaks (remember the ones that hit Tuscaloosa?) Thankfully, none ever hit the actual track or campgrounds. God help us if it ever did. Over 2000acres of land with campers everywhere would be an absolute mess. And for those of you blasting it - just because you don't enjoy a sport, don't bash it. Imagine a world with all of us exactly alike. How vanilla would that be? ;)
 
2012-08-06 06:45:06 PM

imtheonlylp: and some of the most brilliant engineers there are watching their hard work do 200+mph



You go to Formula One, WRC, or Le Mans races?

NASCAR is not full of brilliant engineers, they're all the same spec car with different engines and restrictor plates if they are too fast to be "unfair"
 
2012-08-06 07:23:10 PM
Another method by which I will not die:

Walking to the parking lot following a NASCAR race and get struck by lightning.

Also on the list: Anything to do with a monster truck event, dirt bike rally.
 
2012-08-06 07:45:40 PM
when i read the haters post i just smile with a smug sense of satisfaction,cause i know they are jealous.
they think canon is something to fire off? evidently,this poster has never seen the kind of camera gear carried by many fans hoping to get just the right shot. the other claiming that there are no real engineers in nascar,hmmm,how to tweak a car within a very narrow set of rules to gain an advantage. yup,no real engineering there folks.(doesnt ryan newman have a degree in engineering?) looking at some of the high dollar motorhomes i see on race weekends,i cant belive they are just hicks who got lucky and won the lottery. im thinking many of them must be sucessful at something in life in order to be able to afford such things.but i have to go now,ive got just 26 minutes to make it to my tee time.
 
2012-08-06 09:15:24 PM

porterm: when i read the haters post i just smile with a smug sense of satisfaction,cause i know they are jealous.
they think canon is something to fire off? evidently,this poster has never seen the kind of camera gear carried by many fans hoping to get just the right shot. the other claiming that there are no real engineers in nascar,hmmm,how to tweak a car within a very narrow set of rules to gain an advantage. yup,no real engineering there folks.(doesnt ryan newman have a degree in engineering?) looking at some of the high dollar motorhomes i see on race weekends,i cant belive they are just hicks who got lucky and won the lottery. im thinking many of them must be sucessful at something in life in order to be able to afford such things.but i have to go now,ive got just 26 minutes to make it to my tee time.



Yeah the real engineers are in NASCAR, not Formula One or Le Mans. Everyone who says differently is just a bunch of jealous haters that us hicks are so smart and successful!

you can't even spell "successful" or "believe" so I bet you can imagine the hilarity in someone being jealous of white trash making an engine run and a car barely turn left for 3 hours

You might want to educate yourself on real motorsports and learn NASCAR is the biggest joke only behind drag racing.
 
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