If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   USDA decides to replace federal inspectors in chicken plants with plant workers. They also speed up the slaughter lines so that the "inspectors" get 1/3 of a second to inspect each chicken. What could possibly go wrong?   (ajc.com) divider line 227
    More: Scary, USDA, cancers, food safety, Government Accountability Office, chickens, maximum speed, internal organs, poultry  
•       •       •

10410 clicks; posted to Main » on 05 Aug 2012 at 8:47 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



227 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-08-05 07:13:23 PM  
Et mor beaf
 
2012-08-05 07:25:31 PM  
wait'll they start dropping over at the Chic-Fil-A.
 
2012-08-05 08:02:22 PM  
Well, regulations are killing our businesses, and we're going to have to lay off our workers, and we're going to have to outsource our chicken-plucking, and it's all those regulations!
 
2012-08-05 08:19:02 PM  
Lack of funds. As someone who supported FSIS the folks in the trenches are being farked sideways.
 
2012-08-05 08:24:27 PM  
This is why we don't eat your crap, factory farms from way the hell far away. Local sourced meat, the only way to go. Plus it supports our neighbor farms, which is better than dumping money down that sh*t hole at wal-mart.
 
2012-08-05 08:49:05 PM  
Looks like its time for more falafel and other veggie meals...

Fark factory farms.
 
2012-08-05 08:50:50 PM  

elffster: Looks like its time for more falafel and other veggie meals...

Fark factory farms.


Do you have Farmers Markets where you live? Use them.

We don't buy meat unless we know exactly where it came from.
 
2012-08-05 08:53:35 PM  
Keep farking that chicken inspector.
 
2012-08-05 08:53:46 PM  
And yew ghey h8erz want little kity to eat moar chikkin? Fsck ewe.
 
2012-08-05 08:55:04 PM  
Get used to taking on faith that our food is safe, Farkers, and that corporations aren't willing to play with the lives of their customers. This is the direction that North America is going - and don't for a moment think that it won't spread to Europe and beyond.
 
2012-08-05 08:55:27 PM  
Everything
 
2012-08-05 08:56:04 PM  
When I think "small, local farm" I think "Robert Pickton dead hooker sausage".

//Google it.
///And if you ever ate sausage in western Canada in the last decade, try not to think about it.
 
2012-08-05 08:56:46 PM  
Ok, think I will have something else for dinner.
 
2012-08-05 08:57:09 PM  
sounds over-regulated to me
 
2012-08-05 08:58:38 PM  
"I don't want to be the fox that's guarding the henhouse,"

Possibly the most appropriate use of that phrase I've ever heard.
 
2012-08-05 08:58:43 PM  
We will be slaughtering 20 chickens this upcoming Saturday, and have 25 more birds on order to be ready for eats by mid-October. We have five left in the freezer from our first run. They get organic feed and free range for ten hours each day. I know not every family can do this, but if you can it is wonderfully freeing to grow your own meat. And then we get to avoid spending our money the creepy factory meat.
 
2012-08-05 09:01:57 PM  
Should have added that the birds come out to between $1.50-$2/lb.
 
2012-08-05 09:02:21 PM  

Techhell: Get used to taking on faith that our food is safe, Farkers, and that corporations aren't willing to play with the lives of their customers. This is the direction that North America is going - and don't for a moment think that it won't spread to Europe and beyond.


It'll be a Jungle out there...
 
2012-08-05 09:03:06 PM  
You can't "inspect in" quality to a product and expect to have a good outcome. The goal is not to inspect every single carcass but to have a process that can be checked by inspecting a subset of the product to accurately find when the process is going outside the parameters.
 
2012-08-05 09:03:07 PM  
I am outraged... We don't need ANY inspections by ANY inspectors of any kind!

This is the free market! If anyone gets sick, that company will just wind up out of business.

If you die, no problem! Your estate can just sue them!

/ This is what RON PAUL supporters actually believe.
 
2012-08-05 09:06:17 PM  
A third of a second, wow. I'd be impressed if a robot would be able do that.

FTA: "As birds whiz past them at a rate of three per second, federal inspectors say, it's impossible to properly inspect all of them.

"There's no humanly way you can keep up," said inspector and union official Stan Painter, who works at a pilot plant in Crossville, Ala., that uses the faster line speeds. "They're going by in a blur."


Is that the current inspection regime? What a farce.

// Only eats Bell and Evans chicken - and yes, this is a PETA site saying nice things about them.
 
2012-08-05 09:07:23 PM  
*Thank you for calling Dewey, Cheetum and Howe. How may I direct your call?*

/setting up a retainer
 
2012-08-05 09:07:38 PM  
NYCNative: / This is what RON PAUL supporters actually believe

That is not an exaggeration. A good friend is a Paultard and we've had very energetic debates, points like this being raised and then razed.
 
2012-08-05 09:08:05 PM  
Free Range Market Chicken
 
2012-08-05 09:09:30 PM  

Generation_D: This is why we don't eat your crap, factory farms from way the hell far away. Local sourced meat, the only way to go. Plus it supports our neighbor farms, which is better than dumping money down that sh*t hole at wal-mart.


Around here, the big chicken operations are pretty close by. If you're close to one, you know it.
The chicken from the little old lady a few miles out of town tastes so much better. She sells out every week at the farmers market.

/decided I would never buy poultry from the big producers ever again after I saw Food Inc.
 
2012-08-05 09:13:07 PM  
I don't see what the big problem is. We let the banks self-regulate, and nothing bad has ever come of that. The free market will sort it out. If one factory farm isn't putting out a quality product, people will just eat food from a different factory farm. Even though there's really no way to tell which factory the chicken came from. I'm sure the market will sort that out, too.
 
2012-08-05 09:15:36 PM  
The damned things all have salmonella anyway. They eat their own waste.
 
2012-08-05 09:19:48 PM  

ultraholland: NYCNative: / This is what RON PAUL supporters actually believe

That is not an exaggeration. A good friend is a Paultard and we've had very energetic debates, points like this being raised and then razed.


Raze the argument then. I'm genuinely interested.

You take a known risk when buying a product from a stranger. You can somewhat mitigate that risk by buying from someone more local (Farmer's Market etc.), you can raise the meat yourself or you can abstain altogether.

I don't think that all oversight is automatically a bad thing, but I am decidedly libertarian (not a Paul Bot though...he has some screwy views even for a libertarian).

It's sort of like the raw milk debate. If you want to buy raw milk with the known risks involved, I think that you should be able to.

The consumer should educate themselves.
 
2012-08-05 09:23:31 PM  
One Word. You know it.

SHAREHOLDERS. Heartless, Greedy SHAREHOLDERS. Gotta make those dividends, or they'll take their ball and go home. Gotta make the megabucks so they can bribe provide campaign contributions to those politicians.

Shareholders are the only people that matter in this cold, cruel world. Workers, customers and vendors can all GO TO HELL!
 
2012-08-05 09:23:34 PM  
Tofu sounds less deadly now.
 
2012-08-05 09:25:36 PM  
But that is the argument: In the free market as they envision it, companies need no oversight at all. They can do whatever they want, cut any corners they want, endanger workers and customers alike.

Workers can just get another job if they don't want to work in dangerous conditions with poor pay.

Customers can take their business elsewhere if the chickens kill anyone and sue if it happens to be someone they know.

Apparently, all that is needed is the threat of going out of business through poor performance or law suits and the free market will regulate everything nicely.

Human greed or incompetance? You must be a socialist if you think that those problems would derail the dream that is Libertaria...
 
2012-08-05 09:26:44 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: You can't "inspect in" quality to a product and expect to have a good outcome. The goal is not to inspect every single carcass but to have a process that can be checked by inspecting a subset of the product to accurately find when the process is going outside the parameters.


Statistics, how do they work?
 
2012-08-05 09:27:56 PM  
Didn't read the article, but based on the Fark headline it could have been an I Love Lucy episode.
 
2012-08-05 09:28:40 PM  
The maximum speed now is 140 per minute, but that workload is divided among four inspectors so that it averages out at 35 per minute for each inspector.

So what's so fantastically prudent about the status quo of getting 1.7 seconds to inspect a chicken as opposed to .3? Seems an inspector won't get much of a good look either way.
 
2012-08-05 09:33:45 PM  
Everyone that comments in this thread should have to do the Chicken Dance in front of a loved lone.

For all you out there without a loved one handy. Just grab your crotch and cluck.
 
2012-08-05 09:35:13 PM  
www.dreamcityphoto.com
 
2012-08-05 09:35:23 PM  
Sounds like a great deal for the poultry industry... maybe not so good for consumers. Made me remember this old joke:

A man from Tyson Foods is visiting with the Pope. After receiving the papal blessing, he whispers, "Your Eminence, we have a wonderful deal for you. If you will change The Lord's Prayer from 'give us this day our daily bread... ' to 'give us this day our daily chicken... ' we are prepared to donate $300 million to the Church."
"That is not possible," the Pope responds. "The Prayer is the Word of the Lord and it must not be changed."
"Well," the man from Tyson says, "we are prepared to donate $1 billion to the Church if you change the Lord's Prayer from 'give us this day our daily bread... ' to 'give us this day our daily chicken... '"
Again, the Pope responds, "That is not possible. The Prayer is the Word of the Lord and it must not be changed."
Finally, the man from Tyson says, "Your Eminence, this is our final offer. We are prepared to donate $3 billion to the Church if you change the Lord's Prayer from 'give us this day our daily bread... ' to 'give us this day our daily chicken... '" and he leaves.
The following day, the Pope meets with the College of Cardinals to inform them that he has good news and bad news.
"The good news is that the Church has come into $3 billion," he says. "The bad news is, we're losing the Wonderbread account."


source: http://www.jokebuddha.com/joke/Church_Donation#ixzz22j28f8Mf
 
2012-08-05 09:35:31 PM  

Generation_D: Local sourced meat, the only way to go.


Which for me is actually Tyson, hell I go to the Factory thrift store.
 
2012-08-05 09:39:24 PM  

Tom_Slick: Generation_D: Local sourced meat, the only way to go.

Which for me is actually Tyson, hell I go to the Factory thrift store.


Mmmm...discounted irregular chickens.
 
2012-08-05 09:39:41 PM  

KaiserRoll: Benjimin_Dover: You can't "inspect in" quality to a product and expect to have a good outcome. The goal is not to inspect every single carcass but to have a process that can be checked by inspecting a subset of the product to accurately find when the process is going outside the parameters.

Statistics, how do they work?


Somehow I don't think think they've got real good process control on sh*t-in-the-meat. I'm not seeing Six-Sigma Black BeltsTM up in this b*tch.
 
2012-08-05 09:39:49 PM  
Doesn't really matter either way. The original inspections were done so that government inspectors could look over the bird for things like feces. But salmonella and other harmful bacteria could be coating the bird completely and the inspectors would never know it. The feces don't have to be there for it to happen.

What we need to do is institute cobalt irradiation of all slaughtered meat.
 
2012-08-05 09:40:34 PM  

T. Dawg: We will be slaughtering 20 chickens this upcoming Saturday, and have 25 more birds on order to be ready for eats by mid-October. We have five left in the freezer from our first run. They get organic feed and free range for ten hours each day. I know not every family can do this, but if you can it is wonderfully freeing to grow your own meat. And then we get to avoid spending our money the creepy factory meat.


That's nice. I live in the city and we're zoned against livestock.
 
2012-08-05 09:41:03 PM  
This has nothing to do with lobbying.
 
2012-08-05 09:41:13 PM  
If they are trying to inspect every chicken they are doing it wrong. You check a statistically significant sample of the birds. Should catch just about everything.
 
2012-08-05 09:45:30 PM  

ArkAngel: Doesn't really matter either way. The original inspections were done so that government inspectors could look over the bird for things like feces. But salmonella and other harmful bacteria could be coating the bird completely and the inspectors would never know it. The feces don't have to be there for it to happen.

What we need to do is institute cobalt irradiation of all slaughtered meat.


We can't do that! The food might become radioactive and kill us all! COMMIE!
 
2012-08-05 09:46:46 PM  
Anyone who doesn't support the USDA, EPA, and the like should be forced to live in India for a month. Pretty much any "small government" teabagger type should be forced to go there to see what happens when you have a government that's effectively powerless to do anything.

A little government regulation (and the taxes that go with it) is a small cost to pay for food that doesn't give you the shaits, water that won't kill you, and a country that doesn't smell like a badly run sewage treatment plant.
 
2012-08-05 09:47:01 PM  
The USDA's Food Safety Inspection Service, which oversees poultry plants, believes the changes would "ensure and even enhance the safety of the poultry supply by focusing our inspectors' efforts on activities more directly tied to improving food safety," FSIS spokesman Dirk Fillpot said in a statement.

And WHAT pray tell, is more directly tied to improving food safety than INSPECTING THE DAMN CHICKENS COMING DOWN THE FACTORY LINES?!!

They might as well have quoted him as "Corrupt fark-witted official #1."
 
2012-08-05 09:50:08 PM  
So the price of chicken will go down? In a pig's eye.
 
2012-08-05 09:53:40 PM  
FFS. Talk about "regulatory capture".
 
2012-08-05 09:55:37 PM  
well, this sort of farks with a large amount of the meals

as someone else said, time to make more falafel, and other veggie based dishes

unless kosher, or halal meats would be a good bet
 
Displayed 50 of 227 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report