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(The American Spectator)   Chuck Schumer to Canada: Just what do you think you're doing selling fuel to China? Canada: This pipeline of ours? Like your boss says, you didn't build that. We did. And Tim Horton's kicks Dunkin Donuts' ASS   (spectator.org) divider line 299
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2012-08-05 05:13:26 PM
TL;DR

And, it's adorable that you ferriners think we go to Dunkin' for the donuts.
 
2012-08-05 05:13:41 PM
Markey followed with a letter demanding that Geithner insist that CNOOC pay royalties on tracts that Nexen recently won in the Gulf of Mexico where the government offered them royalty-free.

I believe this is banned by the legal principle of "No Backsies"

And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's
 
2012-08-05 05:19:32 PM
Today we are undergoing a similar dance in our economic relation with China. And wouldn't you know, it's our liberal friends in Congress, so enthusiastic about hamstringing American enterprise, who are the last to realize that they are undercutting our political hegemony as well.

Because all those liberal CEOs are the ones shipping jobs overseas to china every chance they get....
 
2012-08-05 05:22:05 PM
ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.
 
2012-08-05 05:24:04 PM
ThatGuyGreg: And, it's adorable that you ferriners think we go to Dunkin' for the donuts

You sure as hell shouldn't be going for the coffee. Stuff is disgusting.
 
2012-08-05 05:34:53 PM
Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.


Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.
 
2012-08-05 05:45:11 PM
The world does not dance to America's tune.

Liberals are the ones who like to throw America's weight around and go against/ignore the international community?

We won our hegemony through economic might and military muscle. All that is now atrophying.

And this is the fault of liberals?
 
2012-08-05 06:05:40 PM

Lionel Mandrake: And this is the fault of liberals?


When you're herping the derp, everything is the fault of liberals. Traffic jams, stale beer, ring-around-the-collar; It's all a liberal plot, don't you know?
 
2012-08-05 06:16:01 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.


I keep hearing that, but I can't get over the taste of the old McDonalds coffee. I had enough of that when my kids were little. bleh. Pro-tip: Playland on Sunday mornings is surprisingly empty
 
2012-08-05 06:21:28 PM

Methadone Girls: NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.

I keep hearing that, but I can't get over the taste of the old McDonalds coffee. I had enough of that when my kids were little. bleh. Pro-tip: Playland on Sunday mornings is surprisingly empty



Yeah, agree. Their old coffee was pretty awful, not good for much other than stripping paint. With those styrofoam cups and the stupid little spoon stirsticks.

The new stuff though that they've got in the last few years though, surprisingly very good. It's exceedingly rare for me to have Tims coffee anymore.
 
2012-08-05 06:23:33 PM

Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.


I don't drink coffee
 
2012-08-05 06:25:09 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.

I keep hearing that, but I can't get over the taste of the old McDonalds coffee. I had enough of that when my kids were little. bleh. Pro-tip: Playland on Sunday mornings is surprisingly empty


Yeah, agree. Their old coffee was pretty awful, not good for much other than stripping paint. With those styrofoam cups and the stupid little spoon stirsticks.

The new stuff though that they've got in the last few years though, surprisingly very good. It's exceedingly rare for me to have Tims coffee anymore.


Because Tims changed suppliers and MacDonalds Canada picked up the old Tim Hortons supplier.
 
2012-08-05 06:28:45 PM

Zombie Jesus: Because Tims changed suppliers and MacDonalds Canada picked up the old Tim Hortons supplier.


Now I'll have to try it. I feel like such a traitor.
 
2012-08-05 06:32:38 PM
And Tim Horton's kicks Dunkin Donuts' ASS

lol
 
2012-08-05 06:46:38 PM
...our liberal friends in Congress, so enthusiastic about hamstringing American enterprise...

That's the truth. Liberals in America consistently oppose the creation of wealth in America.
 
2012-08-05 07:30:51 PM
We now return this thread to its regularly scheduled stupidity
 
2012-08-05 08:19:24 PM
I'm not even sure what the writer is outraged about.

Is it that Canadia decided who to sell their own oil to, that some people in Congress want to argue with China, or that it was Democrat congressmembers who wanted to argue with China?

It's like he's mad, but he's not sure why, so LIBS LIBS LIBS!!!
 
2012-08-05 08:21:25 PM
The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.
 
2012-08-05 08:21:27 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.


1. Bridgehead
2. StarBucks
3. Second Cup
4. Tim Hortens
5. McDonald's
6. other fast food places
7. the complimentary coffee at car dealerships
8. hospital cafeterias
9. gas station coffee
10. Dunkin Donuts
 
2012-08-05 08:22:46 PM
only Fat ignorant rednecks find value in stuffing their hole with a greazy donut. The bagel is far superior. And the author of the article is farking moran!
 
2012-08-05 08:23:52 PM

mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.


That's what I've been trying to tell them!

But nooo, no one would believe Mrtraveler01.
 
2012-08-05 08:24:02 PM

mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.


And America lost it's chance to make money off of it.
 
2012-08-05 08:25:12 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.


McDonald's coffee tastes like it was brewed in an unwashed ashtray.

I will allow that of the three places, only one of them has bread-bowl soup.

/every Dunkin' Donuts I've seen was a sad dump of a place, with indifferent staff
 
2012-08-05 08:25:44 PM

Mrbogey: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

And America lost it's chance to make money off of it.


How much money did you really think America was going to make off of this thing?
 
2012-08-05 08:26:00 PM

mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.


yeah we probably would have sold it to them anyways, since they are actually consuming a lot of it and money talks...

blaming liberals for your shiatty economic situation is kinda counter productive, since no actual solutions are proposed everyone's instead spending so much time playing the blame game to make themselves feel better.

Also; Tim Horton's coffee is alright when in a rush but if I really want coffee in a pinch the columbian coffee my store's deli brews is actually very tasty.
 
2012-08-05 08:28:20 PM
That's an embarrassing article.

That's how I know I'm on fark, all the goddamn links go to stupidity of one brand or another. You really should fight against your stereotypes.
 
2012-08-05 08:28:51 PM
Too bad the author of that article has no clue that the Northern Gateway pipeline that would expedite the shipping of tar sands oil to China faces opposition from both of British Columbia's main political parties and cannot be built without British Columbians' permission.

This concept of "1. Tar sands + China 3. Rich forever!" floating around in the heads of the AB-based Conservatives is still missing Step 2: actually figuring out how to ship it out of Alberta.

It's a bit of an NEP moment for British Columbians. The eastern bastards (as WAC Bennett once noted, for us eastern Canada starts at Alberta) want to screw British Columbians over mainly for the gain of Enbridge and their investors. Unsurprisingly, it's not at all popular.
 
2012-08-05 08:30:03 PM
I hate to bust the author's bubble but not too many countries listen to the USA anymore, because we don't have any money.
 
2012-08-05 08:30:48 PM
begun the doughnut wars have
 
2012-08-05 08:31:02 PM

Mrtraveler01: Mrbogey: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

And America lost it's chance to make money off of it.

How much money did you really think America was going to make off of this thing?


We would have got some short term (2 years or so) for construction, then a couple hundred jobs maintaining and monitoring. Spread out over the length of the pipeline, nothing really.
 
2012-08-05 08:31:30 PM

pjbreeze: I hate to bust the author's bubble but not too many countries listen to the USA anymore, because we don't have any money.


Well that and we did kind of embarass ourselves on the national stage with that whole Iraq debacle.
 
2012-08-05 08:33:23 PM

mr intrepid: Mrtraveler01: Mrbogey: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

And America lost it's chance to make money off of it.

How much money did you really think America was going to make off of this thing?

We would have got some short term (2 years or so) for construction, then a couple hundred jobs maintaining and monitoring. Spread out over the length of the pipeline, nothing really.


At least you're grounded in reality and not the fairtales and pie-in-the-sky projects the pro-pipeline lobby was trying to shovel in front of us.
 
2012-08-05 08:33:28 PM

Weaver95: Today we are undergoing a similar dance in our economic relation with China. And wouldn't you know, it's our liberal friends in Congress, so enthusiastic about hamstringing American enterprise, who are the last to realize that they are undercutting our political hegemony as well.

Because all those liberal CEOs are the ones shipping jobs overseas to china every chance they get....


They did offer it to us first, without even putting it out for bid. We passed, now they are selling it to somebody else. Can't really blame them for that.

We don't always agree, but you always have a reason for your point. What do you think here?
 
2012-08-05 08:34:45 PM
Canada is going about oil extraction in the derpiest way possible.

Norway, Saudi Arabia, and UAE collect between 70-80% of the revenue from oil extraction. Canada collects 10% of the revenue.

- Norways' oil fund (established in 1990) over 600 billion dollars;
- UAE's oil fund (established in the 70s) over 600 billion dollars;
- The Saudi's oil fund is at over 500 billion, but probably much more

Canada's oil fund = $0
 
2012-08-05 08:35:00 PM

cchris_39: They did offer it to us first, without even putting it out for bid. We passed, now they are selling it to somebody else. Can't really blame them for that.


Are you really that stupid to think that Canada wasn't going to offer the oil to China if we allowed them to build the Keystone Pipeline?

*shakes his head at the stupidity*
 
2012-08-05 08:35:19 PM
Obama is Chuck Schumer's boss? Can someone point me to the section of the constitution where the president hires and fires senators?
 
2012-08-05 08:36:13 PM
Bears repeating, the pipeline was for export and the US wasn't going to see any oil out of it, and not that many jobs.

Another thing is, the tar sands may be generating plenty of money for the Canadians now, but it's also racking up a huge environmental cleanup cost after the party is over. The process to cook the oil out of the sand used metric shiattons of water, and the water coming out of the process is badly polluted. Only the scarcity of population up there allowed the process to even start; no civilized area would tolerate the environmental impacts.
 
2012-08-05 08:36:30 PM

mr intrepid: We would have got some short term (2 years or so) for construction, then a couple hundred jobs maintaining and monitoring. Spread out over the length of the pipeline, nothing really.


A couple hundred jobs long term earning about 40-60k$ a year on average... yea who wants that kind of money?

The choice was "money" or "no money". You chose "no money". Don't act like it was the best choice.
 
2012-08-05 08:36:45 PM
Forget it Jake, it's in China now.
 
2012-08-05 08:36:57 PM
Timmy's ended up dying here in southeastern New England because they couldn't compete with Dunkie's.

As for taste, it's simple: When you've grown up drinking nothing but (a), (b) will almost always come out losing. That, and chickory sucks.
 
2012-08-05 08:36:59 PM

ultraholland: begun the doughnut wars have


We have always been at war with Tim Horton's
 
2012-08-05 08:37:20 PM

mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.


But that makes no sense. You'd have to go halfway around the world to ship oil from Houston to China. I find it hard to believe that it was cheaper to build a pipeline across the country than it was to build a Canadian oil port on their west coast.
 
2012-08-05 08:40:41 PM

mrshowrules: 2. StarBucks


This invalidates your opinion. If you're gonna drink the bullshiat they serve as coffee, you might as well just drink burnt motor oil. My girlfriend likes their chai, but I'll make a separate stop at literally anywhere else to get my coffee.
 
2012-08-05 08:41:53 PM

Mrtraveler01: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

That's what I've been trying to tell them!

But nooo, no one would believe Mrtraveler01.


I'm starting the Cassandra Club, you want to join?
 
2012-08-05 08:42:26 PM

NEDM: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

But that makes no sense. You'd have to go halfway around the world to ship oil from Houston to China. I find it hard to believe that it was cheaper to build a pipeline across the country than it was to build a Canadian oil port on their west coast.


We already ship oil to China out of Houston. It's already a major shipping route. I'd think it would be far simpler to get the oil to that port than to try and establish an entirely new port and route.
 
2012-08-05 08:42:58 PM

mrshowrules: NeedlesslyCanadian: Methadone Girls: ArkAngel: And Dunkin' Donuts is far superior to Tim Horton's

You take that back!! I've had coffee from Dunkin' Donuts and tossed it in the parking lot. How do you drink coffee from there? Bleh.

Timmies coffee is farking disgusting too. It's practically unthinkable, but McDonalds probably has the best fast-food coffee around.

1. Bridgehead
2. StarBucks
3. Second Cup
4. Tim Hortens
5. McDonald's
6. other fast food places
7. the complimentary coffee at car dealerships
8. hospital cafeterias
9. gas station coffee
10. Dunkin Donuts


List starts out well, but I don't know how you can have Second Cup anywhere in the top half. The damn place sells battery acid in place of coffee.

/ Spent five years in Ottawa. Bridgehead is a damn good coffee chain.
 
2012-08-05 08:43:15 PM

NEDM: I find it hard to believe that it was cheaper to build a pipeline across the country than it was to build a Canadian oil port on their west coast.


Alberta has been busy giving the rest of Canada the finger since they figured out they had lots of oil. Now no one wants to help them get the oil to market. The US however is quite happy to pipe it even if some in the American government have some odd assumptions as to who the oil really belongs to.
 
2012-08-05 08:43:18 PM

NEDM: mr intrepid: The oil was always going to China. That's why the pipeline went to Houston, not so much for the refineries, but for the port.

But that makes no sense. You'd have to go halfway around the world to ship oil from Houston to China. I find it hard to believe that it was cheaper to build a pipeline across the country than it was to build a Canadian oil port on their west coast.


They're having a lot of local debate for a pipeline in that direction. But it's been clear for quite a while that Canada wants its tar sands oil on the international oil market and not just the United States.

While all this is going on, Enbridge is planning a third pipeline to Ontario, Quebec, and ultimately to Portland, ME to export oil across the Atlantic.

Link
 
2012-08-05 08:43:22 PM
I got as far as the part where the author claims Obama blocked Keystone and realized this was going to be another load of AS horseshiat.
 
2012-08-05 08:44:40 PM
One thing I can still give props to Rush for: "Chuck U Schumer"

Chuck Sucks.
 
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