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2012-08-05 11:31:06 AM
Maybe that is because pipe tobacco doesn't taste like you're licking an ash tray.
 
2012-08-05 11:33:09 AM
This thread is relevant to my interests. I'll occasionally spring $6/pack for Dunhill but my daily is 65¢/pack.

Vaquero vanilla 100's. Distributed by general tobacco in Miami. Made in Colombia.
 
2012-08-05 11:33:45 AM
It's cheaper to roll your own than buy pre-packaged ones. A few people I know do this to save cash, and buy the tobacco in bulk, some pre-rolled papers, and some little gizmo that stuffs the tobacco into the papers. It takes about two minutes.
 
2012-08-05 11:35:39 AM
I think many of these may be being repurposed prior to use.
 
2012-08-05 11:38:08 AM
People are actually thinking about what they smoke rather than mindlessly stuffing prepacked garbage into their lungs. I'm anti-smoking but anything that puts the brain into the loop sounds like an improvement.
 
2012-08-05 11:38:35 AM
You don't use pipe tobacco in roll-ups for god's sake!
 
2012-08-05 11:38:47 AM
I enjoy a fine stogie.

It's getting harder and harder to find the two hours required to smoke one though.
 
2012-08-05 11:40:14 AM

signaljammer: I think many of these may be being repurposed prior to use.


Are you suggesting that people will remove the tobacco from a cigar and replace it with marijuana? Sir, I say you are crazy.
 
2012-08-05 11:41:30 AM
I'm a Copenhagen man myself.

/runs
 
2012-08-05 11:42:04 AM
I've been a contented pipe-smoker for over a quarter century. Had a brief scare in the early 90's when Hilliary-Care proposed levying a $100 tax on a pound of pipe tobacco, reasoning that if they jacked up cig taxes even more, the kids would switch to cheaper pipe tobacco.

Of course, the class and sophistication of the 7-11 parking lot would only be elevated with the presence of teenagers contently puffing their pipes and discussing the vexing issues of the day.....
 
2012-08-05 11:42:31 AM
In subby's household, "rolling your own" is code for incest, something like "upping your auntie".
 
2012-08-05 11:42:55 AM

nihilspawn: Maybe that is because pipe tobacco doesn't taste like you're licking an ash tray.


This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago. Pipe tobacco almost always has more flavor, better flavor and more variety. Still a nasty habit.
 
2012-08-05 11:43:30 AM
A family member is using one of those vapor inhalers to help them quit. Seems to be working.
Tobacco free myself since January 2000.
 
2012-08-05 11:48:48 AM

mark12A: Of course, the class and sophistication of the 7-11 parking lot would only be elevated with the presence of teenagers contently puffing their pipes and discussing the vexing issues of the day.....


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2012-08-05 11:50:34 AM

ChromoSomes: In subby's household, "rolling your own" is code for incest, something like "upping your auntie".


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2012-08-05 11:56:23 AM

Aulus


This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago.


You sound old.
 
2012-08-05 11:56:30 AM

Aulus: nihilspawn: Maybe that is because pipe tobacco doesn't taste like you're licking an ash tray.

This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago. Pipe tobacco almost always has more flavor, better flavor and more variety. Still a nasty habit.


You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable, usually. Cigarette smoke is quite literally like a slap in the face to me. As soon as I get the slightest whiff of it for the first time, it makes me involuntarily flinch and jerk my head. Then I can feel my sinuses swelling. :/ I honestly don't know what the difference really is between the types of smoke. Not all cigarettes do that, but most do. I don't smoke weed, either, but good weed has the most sweet and pleasant smell of just about any inhaled smoke product I've been around. It's kinda weird about that, I guess.

I'm sensitive enough to cigarette smoke that I can tell, from inside my house, when someone passes my house on the 70mph highway nearby if they're smoking and their window is down. Seriously. It's that bad.
 
2012-08-05 11:57:37 AM
This situation is a government created market distortion. Cigarette taxes steadily increase, yet legislators occasionally enjoy cigars, so they leave them alone. Which creates opportunity - by re-branding cigarettes as "cigars", product is taxed less and a price advantage is enjoyed against competitors. Ditch the taxes for a level playing field and the numbers would normalize.
 
2012-08-05 11:58:48 AM
Captain Black, the best all around pipe tobacco available. By the way, here is a link to the best internet store for pips tobacco and cigars I have ever found.
Link
I have been a pipe smoker since 1970. The key is to buy a good pipe an good tobacco. People try a cheap pipe or cheap tobacco and wonder why it is harsh.
 
2012-08-05 11:59:07 AM
My grandparents rolled their own in the 40s because all of the cigarettes were being sent to the troops. My parents got to do the rolling as little kids.
 
2012-08-05 12:01:57 PM
Because regular cigarettes have been banned in every state. All cigarettes are now required to use "fire safe" paper making them terrible. They are now, ironically, more of a fire hazard and unhealthy. Don't smoke them. Roll your own, smoke a pipe or a cigar until they ruin those.
 
2012-08-05 12:03:50 PM
I'm a tobacconist by trade (CSB) and while pipe smoking is on the rise, the sharp increase is purely because of cigarette tobacco being labeled as "pipe" to get around taxes - and those numbers will come crashing down to normal once the tobaccos are classified & taxed correctly.

And that's fine by me... Pipe & cigar smokers have enough issues as it is without being unfairly lumped with cigarette smokers.
 
2012-08-05 12:05:05 PM

Romeo_Santana: I enjoy a fine stogie.

It's getting harder and harder to find the two hours required to smoke one though.



Solution:

Smoke robustos.

/IIRC, they are the most popular size in the U.S.
 
2012-08-05 12:07:13 PM
Just quit smoking tobacco about a week and a half ago so I'm getting a kick. I've switched over to one of these e-cigs and it seems to be working. I was jealous and had a craving everytime I saw someone smoking a real cig for about 3 days, and then I just got over it. Now I'm content with my nicotine steam. I'm hoping in about a month to switch over to non-nicotine cartridges and maybe get over that hump. Any tips from Farkers besides Allen Carr?
 
2012-08-05 12:07:47 PM
Crazy popular. <jk>
 
2012-08-05 12:08:15 PM
As a society, why are we trying to make people stop smoking?
Smokers are productive tax payers just like everyone else except they tend to go downhill quickly and die 10 years earlier.
The non-smoking citizens that live into their 80s are a drain on society's resources, especially long-term health-care.
The most efficient model is to have people die a few years after retirement.
Smoking helps us achieve that goal.
So it is a win-win for freedom loving tea party types and nationalized healthcare types.
 
2012-08-05 12:08:16 PM

ElLoco: You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable


Cigarette, pipe, and cigar tobacco are not very different. It's the cigarette paper that is terrible.
 
2012-08-05 12:11:19 PM

ElLoco: Aulus: nihilspawn: Maybe that is because pipe tobacco doesn't taste like you're licking an ash tray.

This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago. Pipe tobacco almost always has more flavor, better flavor and more variety. Still a nasty habit.

You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable, usually. Cigarette smoke is quite literally like a slap in the face to me. As soon as I get the slightest whiff of it for the first time, it makes me involuntarily flinch and jerk my head. Then I can feel my sinuses swelling. :/ I honestly don't know what the difference really is between the types of smoke. Not all cigarettes do that, but most do. I don't smoke weed, either, but good weed has the most sweet and pleasant smell of just about any inhaled smoke product I've been around. It's kinda weird about that, I guess.

I'm sensitive enough to cigarette smoke that I can tell, from inside my house, when someone passes my house on the 70mph highway nearby if they're smoking and their window is down. Seriously. It's that bad.


In Arizona a few years ago, I bought a few cartons of cigarettes that had an ingredient list on the side. There were dozens of additives listed, one of which I remember being molasses!
 
2012-08-05 12:14:00 PM

szyzk: I'm a tobacconist by trade (CSB) and while pipe smoking is on the rise, the sharp increase is purely because of cigarette tobacco being labeled as "pipe" to get around taxes - and those numbers will come crashing down to normal once the tobaccos are classified & taxed correctly.

And that's fine by me... Pipe & cigar smokers have enough issues as it is without being unfairly lumped with cigarette smokers.


Roll your own "cigarette" tobacco costs triple what "pipe" tobacco costs. That does not make any sense. Of course people will buy the "pipe" tobacco.
 
2012-08-05 12:17:05 PM
I bought them on an indian reservation and it was a name brand.
 
2012-08-05 12:19:46 PM
Should a gentleman offer a Tiparillo to a lady?
 
2012-08-05 12:20:51 PM
I saw the price of cigarettes, I almost fainted. When I quit, they were only $1.50 a pack. How does anyone afford to smoke?
 
2012-08-05 12:21:24 PM
The Whoppa

As a society, why are we trying to make people stop smoking?
Smokers are productive tax payers just like everyone else except they tend to go downhill quickly and die 10 years earlier.
The non-smoking citizens that live into their 80s are a drain on society's resources, especially long-term health-care.
The most efficient model is to have people die a few years after retirement.
Smoking helps us achieve that goal.
So it is a win-win for freedom loving tea party types and nationalized healthcare types.


That is surprisingly enough, just about the way the state thought about it way back when. Then science demonstrated that smoking degrades all body tissues, including bone, and does this on a proportional, dose-related basis. Smokers had more sick days.

These observations are what led to the new policies.
 
2012-08-05 12:22:58 PM

guitpik: I bought them on an indian reservation and it was a name brand.


All pre-manufactured cigarettes have "ethylene vinyl acetate copolymer emulsion based industrial adhesive." The last thing I would be worried about is the the molasses.
 
2012-08-05 12:23:16 PM
Well, down here in Fark's favorite state, i have seen quite a few buying them. They hate the taste and all, but they buy them due to the cost. They can get them for around 2-3 dollars, as opposed to 6-7 for regular cigarettes here.

\switched to vaping about a year ago
\\still have a cig once in a while
\\\just can't give up the slashies.
 
2012-08-05 12:24:41 PM

TheWhoppah: The non-smoking citizens that live into their 80s are a drain on society's resources, especially long-term health-care.
The most efficient model is to have people die a few years after retirement.
Smoking helps us achieve that goal.




Your assertion is that non-smokers are less of a burden on our health-care system than smokers?

Stay in school kid.
 
2012-08-05 12:25:20 PM

jst3p: TheWhoppah: The non-smoking citizens that live into their 80s are a drain on society's resources, especially long-term health-care.
The most efficient model is to have people die a few years after retirement.
Smoking helps us achieve that goal.



Your assertion is that non-smokers are less more of a burden on our health-care system than smokers?

Stay in school kid.


OK we are both retarded.
 
2012-08-05 12:25:28 PM
This is what's happening:

You take the federal ban on flavored cigarettes into account. Suddenly there are no more clove cigarettes, no more vanilla cigarettes, no more grape or peach or chocolate, etc. Only menthol is allowed. To circumvent that ban, the manufacturers simply wrapped their original clove, vanilla, chocolate, etc cigarettes with tobacco instead of paper and called it a "filtered cigar". These "filtered cigars" also come in non-flavored varities like "full flavor" and "lights" (now called "red" or "gold" depending on the maker, because saying a cigarette is light is misleading to idiots who think they contain less tar, nicotine, or dangerous chemicals. They also don't get taxed like cigarettes because they're now classified as cigars.

Ta-da. Increased cigar sales.
 
2012-08-05 12:25:40 PM

daffy: I saw the price of cigarettes, I almost fainted. When I quit, they were only $1.50 a pack. How does anyone afford to smoke?


coupons help
 
2012-08-05 12:25:45 PM

badhatharry: ElLoco: You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable

Cigarette, pipe, and cigar tobacco are not very different. It's the cigarette paper that is terrible.


It could be. I really don't know. It began about 5 or 6 years ago after I had an extremely severe sinus infection for months that Zpacs and assorted antibiotics wouldn't touch (and an 87 year old retired doctor friend of mine told me how to get rid of... and it worked.)

They didn't bother my physically before that, but I didn't care for the smell anyway.
 
2012-08-05 12:26:27 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: It's cheaper to roll your own than buy pre-packaged ones. A few people I know do this to save cash, and buy the tobacco in bulk, some pre-rolled papers, and some little gizmo that stuffs the tobacco into the papers. It takes about two minutes.


This is common in canada for cigarettes. Usually filtered tubes as well.

Been rolling em that way for yrs. Went to north carolina in 2000 and nobody that i met there had seen such a thing.
 
2012-08-05 12:27:01 PM
Unfortunately what most of you farkers are missing is that many people who now can't afford to buy regular ciggs are buying these little filtered cigars instead and inhaling them. I don't know how many of you have tried these... Or heard the smokers cough from someone who buys these regularly, But I can assure you that camel non-filters are more healthy.
 
2012-08-05 12:28:21 PM

dopekitty74: Went to north carolina in 2000 and nobody that i met there had seen such a thing.


Because cigs are at the most 4 bucks a pack in NC, still.
 
2012-08-05 12:34:29 PM
I finally saved enough Marlboro boxes to get the jogging suit.
 
2012-08-05 12:34:42 PM
I don't know if they are still around, but here in Il I remember these little shops with loose tobacco and a gizzmo by the door to roll 'em up with. Seemed like a tax dodge.
 
2012-08-05 12:37:03 PM

ElLoco: badhatharry: ElLoco: You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable

Cigarette, pipe, and cigar tobacco are not very different. It's the cigarette paper that is terrible.

It could be. I really don't know. It began about 5 or 6 years ago after I had an extremely severe sinus infection for months that Zpacs and assorted antibiotics wouldn't touch (and an 87 year old retired doctor friend of mine told me how to get rid of... and it worked.)

They didn't bother my physically before that, but I didn't care for the smell anyway.


What did the retired doctor tell you to do?
 
2012-08-05 12:37:32 PM

loooongview1: Just quit smoking tobacco about a week and a half ago so I'm getting a kick. I've switched over to one of these e-cigs and it seems to be working. I was jealous and had a craving everytime I saw someone smoking a real cig for about 3 days, and then I just got over it. Now I'm content with my nicotine steam. I'm hoping in about a month to switch over to non-nicotine cartridges and maybe get over that hump. Any tips from Farkers besides Allen Carr?


I've been smoking an e-cig for almost a year now, had been rolling my own unfiltered cigs before that. If you wan't to quit totally and what you have has been working its best to not mess with it. The fact that the e-cigs just have nicotine and not the other chemicals makes it an easier transition to quitting. I'd suggest trying to use it only when you are craving the nic fix, you can even make yourself still go outside to smoke it, just to make it more of a chore. I just got a 6v model and started vaping juice with WTA (Some of the other chemical goodies in tobacco) and I honestly enjoy it more than my non filtered hand rolled cigs, but its just as addictive, and I don't feel any closer to quitting.
 
2012-08-05 12:43:27 PM

ElLoco: Aulus: nihilspawn: Maybe that is because pipe tobacco doesn't taste like you're licking an ash tray.

This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago. Pipe tobacco almost always has more flavor, better flavor and more variety. Still a nasty habit.

You know, oddly... pipe and cigar smoke doesn't seem to affect my allergies when I'm around it. It's rather enjoyable, usually. Cigarette smoke is quite literally like a slap in the face to me. As soon as I get the slightest whiff of it for the first time, it makes me involuntarily flinch and jerk my head. Then I can feel my sinuses swelling. :/ I honestly don't know what the difference really is between the types of smoke. Not all cigarettes do that, but most do. I don't smoke weed, either, but good weed has the most sweet and pleasant smell of just about any inhaled smoke product I've been around. It's kinda weird about that, I guess.

I'm sensitive enough to cigarette smoke that I can tell, from inside my house, when someone passes my house on the 70mph highway nearby if they're smoking and their window is down. Seriously. It's that bad.


I have exactly the same response.

I prefer to believe that cigarette tobacco is just cheap garbage, and that I have very refined tastes. I was also told by a doctor that an allergic reaction to cigarette smoke is not possible, because technically it's an irritant, not an allergen.

I'm not sure I believe that there are no allergens in smoke (and the wet-smelling cigarette butt odor from someone who's just finished a cigarette is worse than the smoke for me sometimes), but either way it sure irritates the hell out of my throat and sinuses.
 
2012-08-05 12:44:28 PM
If you are going to smoke a cigar then you should go for thr gold and smoke an actual cigar!
 
2012-08-05 12:45:23 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Aulus

This. I was a pipe smoker for 24 years but quit 20 years ago.


You sound old.


You sound fat.
 
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