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2012-08-05 12:08:46 AM
Omar coming!
 
2012-08-05 12:19:37 AM
That is really sad. I remember watching "The Corner" and finding myself terribly upset that we as a culture ever allowed to let things get so bad in the slums. Apathy and post-segregation racism allowed for a lot of these areas to become overrun with heroin and crack cocaine, and both of those drugs absolutely destroyed the people who fell victim to them and the neighborhoods they lived in.

De'Andre's father was actually a successful businessman before he got into drugs, and De'Andre himself might have had a chance if he hadn't grown up in a culture where drug use is so normal and people are so hopeless.

It's really sad that he gave back in to his addiction and died at such a young age. I know a lot of people will joke on this thread, and hey, it's Fark. But this is one of those cases where drugs really destroyed a life that might have otherwise been all right.

To anyone who hasn't seen the miniseries "The Corner," I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of "The Wire." (A lot of the same actors are in both.) If I remember correctly, De'Andre was in "The Wire" as the goon who tagged along with Brother Mouzone, and he was also one of the inspirations for Namond Brice, the kid in season 4 who has the long hair and who goes on to make something of himself when Colvin takes an interest in him.
 
2012-08-05 12:23:14 AM

secularsage: To anyone who hasn't seen the miniseries "The Corner," I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of "The Wire." (A lot of the same actors are in both.) If I remember correctly, De'Andre was in "The Wire" as the goon who tagged along with Brother Mouzone, and he was also one of the inspirations for Namond Brice, the kid in season 4 who has the long hair and who goes on to make something of himself when Colvin takes an interest in him.


I've not seen the series, but I have read the book. It was very powerful.
 
2012-08-05 12:39:46 AM
The Wire is a great series. It's sad to see what a culture that celebrates crime / ignorance / etc. can do to an entire segment of the population.
 
2012-08-05 12:43:34 AM
Sheeeeeeeit
[Golly]
 
2012-08-05 12:46:23 AM
Live in Baltimore. What do you say?
 
2012-08-05 12:46:44 AM

SilentStrider: secularsage: To anyone who hasn't seen the miniseries "The Corner," I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of "The Wire." (A lot of the same actors are in both.) If I remember correctly, De'Andre was in "The Wire" as the goon who tagged along with Brother Mouzone, and he was also one of the inspirations for Namond Brice, the kid in season 4 who has the long hair and who goes on to make something of himself when Colvin takes an interest in him.

I've not seen the series, but I have read the book. It was very powerful.


Same here. I read both of Simon's Baltimore books. Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, which the series "Homicide: Life on the Street" was based, and The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood. Read in series, Homicide first, they are very powerful and should be required reading for any politician. They're real eye openers.
 
2012-08-05 12:49:42 AM
I'm sad about DeAndre. I was always pulling for him and his father in the book, but you knew they were going to sink themselves, and in that they never failed.
 
2012-08-05 12:56:26 AM

the_colonel: SilentStrider: secularsage: To anyone who hasn't seen the miniseries "The Corner," I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of "The Wire." (A lot of the same actors are in both.) If I remember correctly, De'Andre was in "The Wire" as the goon who tagged along with Brother Mouzone, and he was also one of the inspirations for Namond Brice, the kid in season 4 who has the long hair and who goes on to make something of himself when Colvin takes an interest in him.

I've not seen the series, but I have read the book. It was very powerful.

Same here. I read both of Simon's Baltimore books. Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, which the series "Homicide: Life on the Street" was based, and The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood. Read in series, Homicide first, they are very powerful and should be required reading for any politician. They're real eye openers.


I've read Homicide as well. Eye opening.
 
2012-08-05 12:58:04 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-05 01:01:55 AM
I want to read these books. So far I've only read a couple Pelecanos novels. Enjoyed them.
 
2012-08-05 01:38:21 AM
My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.
 
2012-08-05 01:48:21 AM

Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.


If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?
 
2012-08-05 01:53:47 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?


No, good people can do it. People worthy of being written about.

Two warrants for armed robbery, dude.
 
2012-08-05 01:56:22 AM
David Simon's blog

An eloquent and moving remembrance
 
2012-08-05 02:08:22 AM
 
2012-08-05 02:09:09 AM

Solid Muldoon: Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?

No, good people can do it. People worthy of being written about.

Two warrants for armed robbery, dude.


You're right. Where and when he was born and how he was raised probably had no impact. He chose that life.
 
2012-08-05 02:12:39 AM

Solid Muldoon: Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?

No, good people can do it. People worthy of being written about.

Two warrants for armed robbery, dude.


It must be really easy living in a black-and-white world, as you do. A world where only bad people get swallowed up by drugs and poverty, successful folks are always good, and anyone who sympathizes with the former is obviously weak-hearted and/or a sucker. I remember this one time a druggie came up to me asking for help, and I punched him in the face, because fark him - I'm descended entirely from hard-knock teetotalers with a genetic predisposition towards longevity, thus invalidating his entire life.
 
2012-08-05 02:14:00 AM

Solid Muldoon: Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?

No, good people can do it. People worthy of being written about.

Two warrants for armed robbery, dude.


Because America has no interest in crime. There's no movies about Al Capone or The Mob. Or Jesse James.
 
2012-08-05 02:16:31 AM
This guy was a drug dealer, drug abuser and convicted criminal, fark him.
 
2012-08-05 02:26:14 AM
I've been poor all my life. Not homeless poor, but the kind of poor where you debate buying that bottle of aspirin or that bag of potatoes.

I've never committed a crime. I've never put a gun on another man.

Poverty is not destiny.

For every poor kid from a broken home who became a criminal scumbag, there are a hundred who did not.

Some even became President of the United States.
 
2012-08-05 02:29:53 AM

consider this: This guy was a drug dealer, drug abuser and convicted criminal, fark him.


s15.postimage.org
 
2012-08-05 02:31:29 AM
www.appetitefordeconstruction.com

it's all in the game.
 
2012-08-05 02:34:29 AM
And nothing of value was lost.
 
2012-08-05 05:05:31 AM
TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.
 
2012-08-05 05:14:43 AM

Solid Muldoon: I've been poor all my life. Not homeless poor, but the kind of poor where you debate buying that bottle of aspirin or that bag of potatoes.


You're tedious, trolling.
 
2012-08-05 06:42:53 AM
Just wait until Silly Jesus finds this thread,

But this guy didn't inspire The Corner, his father did, and he died a long time ago from an overdose. This guy was actually an actor on the Wire, he played the Muslim hitman's body guard and his mother was in The Corner, she played a nurse in the rehab clinic his mother in the show was at.

It is sad, but when you start using heroin this is usually were you end up.
 
2012-08-05 07:27:38 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Solid Muldoon: I've been poor all my life. Not homeless poor, but the kind of poor where you debate buying that bottle of aspirin or that bag of potatoes.


worked hard all my lifetime no help from my friends
 
2012-08-05 07:43:07 AM

JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.


I've never met anyone whose life was messed up because of weed. Whereas I've known plenty whose life was ruined because of alcohol.

/and it costs a lot more to be an alcoholic than a stoner fyi
 
2012-08-05 08:00:24 AM

ongbok: Just wait until Silly Jesus finds this thread,

But this guy didn't inspire The Corner, his father did, and he died a long time ago from an overdose. This guy was actually an actor on the Wire, he played the Muslim hitman's body guard and his mother was in The Corner, she played a nurse in the rehab clinic his mother in the show was at.

It is sad, but when you start using heroin this is usually were you end up.


It does make me wonder what on earth they think the long-term outcome is likely to be when they take up heroin. Being born into poverty is sad, deciding to take heroin is plain stupid.
 
2012-08-05 08:34:10 AM

Truncks1: JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.

I've never met anyone whose life was messed up because of weed. Whereas I've known plenty whose life was ruined because of alcohol.

/and it costs a lot more to be an alcoholic than a stoner fyi


I have. Got a friend who's pretty much got nothing but spends around 1/3 of his paycheck on weed. He's now got no air conditioning and his vehicle is about to crap out but he still blows the money that he could have used to fix them.

He quit for a while but he's back smoking. Stupid git.
 
2012-08-05 08:41:24 AM

Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.


I'm not trying to be an asshole or snark on you, I swear. But you have no idea what your grandmother did, outside of the family stories.

No fu(cking idea. None.

Not being arrested means not being caught -- nothing more or less. Your grandmother probably took some insane stories to the grave, like so many people have and will, forever.

(Also, one's teeth don't rot just from eating seaweed and potatoes; they rot from poor oral hygiene, and other health problems that might include a poor diet. But that's a minor point.)
 
2012-08-05 08:49:21 AM

CujoQuarrel: Truncks1: JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.

I've never met anyone whose life was messed up because of weed. Whereas I've known plenty whose life was ruined because of alcohol.

/and it costs a lot more to be an alcoholic than a stoner fyi

I have. Got a friend who's pretty much got nothing but spends around 1/3 of his paycheck on weed. He's now got no air conditioning and his vehicle is about to crap out but he still blows the money that he could have used to fix them.

He quit for a while but he's back smoking. Stupid git.


I know a few people who are complete screw ups and weed addicts, but whether they'd still be complete screw ups without the weed is up for debate. I suspect it is quite likely. As with alcohol, some people can drink but don't let it get in the way of the rest of their life and for others drinking is their life, in which case do you blame the drug for making the user a moron, or blame the user for already being a moron?

Heroin, on the other hand, only a moron would start down that path in the first place, though on the bright side it can sometimes be effective at removing them from the gene pool.
 
2012-08-05 08:53:30 AM

JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.


Holy shiat, settle down. What "media"? It's one article -- in the Daily Mail. It's not "the media." It's not a conspiracy, any more than it is whenever some tinfoil-hat hysteric claims that a single article in one of your gossip rags is representative of every legitimate news organization in the world.
 
2012-08-05 09:02:57 AM

Nidiot:

Heroin, on the other hand, only a moron would start down that path in the first place, though on the bright side it can sometimes be effective at removing them from the gene pool.


I dunno, I think heroin sounds awesome, but I never did it because it was too easy to believe the Reefer Madness-style propaganda against it (when I was younger and might have known people who could get it easily). That, and even the "best guy we have, seriously, he won't have a problem" at any hospital, doctor's office, or lab has a hard time sticking me. For that reason alone, I couldn't shoot up. Needles don't bother me at all, but I wouldn't be able to tap into a vein.

The same arguments people use against heroin are used by others against weed, cocaine, alcohol, or whatever. A lot of it's probably bullshiat. But I believe much of the hysteria against crystal meth, because I'm older than the demographic that tends to use it. There's no logic to that, but at least I'm aware of it.
 
2012-08-05 09:19:36 AM

MadAzza: The same arguments people use against heroin are used by others against weed, cocaine, alcohol, or whatever. A lot of it's probably bullshiat. But I believe much of the hysteria against crystal meth, because I'm older than the demographic that tends to use it. There's no logic to that, but at least I'm aware of it.


Yeah from what I've seen and the people I've lived near much of the hysteria about meth isn't hysteria. Tweakers are goddamn insane. It's like there is something about meth that turns people into sociopaths or maybe they already were but the meth makes it goddamn obvious. Now as far as heroin goes I don't think a majority of people went "Welp better start shooting up heroin today". I can believe they started on pain pills and worked their way up considering eventually it would seem more expensive to buy oxycodone/oxymorphone in the amounts to get someone, who probably already has an amazing tolerance, high than it would be to buy heroin.
 
2012-08-05 11:00:56 AM

Solid Muldoon: Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?

No, good people can do it. People worthy of being written about.

Two warrants for armed robbery, dude.


You sound like a cop or a prison guard.
 
2012-08-05 11:03:47 AM

MadAzza: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

I'm not trying to be an asshole or snark on you, I swear. But you have no idea what your grandmother did, outside of the family stories.

No fu(cking idea. None.

Not being arrested means not being caught -- nothing more or less. Your grandmother probably took some insane stories to the grave, like so many people have and will, forever.

(Also, one's teeth don't rot just from eating seaweed and potatoes; they rot from poor oral hygiene, and other health problems that might include a poor diet. But that's a minor point.)


Don't you know that people's teeth rot from not taking responsibility for their oral hygiene? People gotta get all bootstrappy with that tooth brushing.
 
2012-08-05 12:00:02 PM

Nidiot: CujoQuarrel: Truncks1: JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.

I've never met anyone whose life was messed up because of weed. Whereas I've known plenty whose life was ruined because of alcohol.

/and it costs a lot more to be an alcoholic than a stoner fyi

I have. Got a friend who's pretty much got nothing but spends around 1/3 of his paycheck on weed. He's now got no air conditioning and his vehicle is about to crap out but he still blows the money that he could have used to fix them.

He quit for a while but he's back smoking. Stupid git.

I know a few people who are complete screw ups and weed addicts, but whether they'd still be complete screw ups without the weed is up for debate. I suspect it is quite likely. As with alcohol, some people can drink but don't let it get in the way of the rest of their life and for others drinking is their life, in which case do you blame the drug for making the user a moron, or blame the user for already being a moron?

Heroin, on the other hand, only a moron would start down that path in the first place, though on the bright side it can sometimes be effective at removing them from the gene pool.


Ahhh Morons. I love when they out themselves.

Nidiot, you are making a choice to be this ignorant.
 
2012-08-05 12:54:15 PM
The CIA made the purposeful decision back in the 1950s to import cocaine and heroin and flood the inner city with this poison. They were aided in this master plan to destroy African Americans by their partners, the Mafia.

De'Andre was a victim of this evil cabal.
 
2012-08-05 03:51:37 PM
JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.

mememachine.viralvideochart.com

Leave weed alone!!

/Link is as hot as a burning blunt.
 
2012-08-05 03:54:44 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Solid Muldoon: My grandmother was born into grinding poverty. Her teeth rotted from a diet of seaweed and potatoes. She came to America at the age of 11 on a tramp steamer. She lived with her aunt who was a barmaid and probably a whore.

My grandmother lived to be 98. Never did drugs. Never drank. Never was arrested. Not once.

Sorry, but I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy here.

If one person can do it, everyone can do it, amirite!?


Yes. Yes you are.
 
2012-08-05 03:56:56 PM
JerkyMeat: TFA had to mention, HAD TO mention that this stupid farks addiction started with weed. Of course it did, media, because you biatches have to talk shiat about weed whenever possible to continue the farking lies and propaganda, don't you? Go fark yourselves.

So you don't think it started with weed?
 
2012-08-05 04:55:18 PM
the_colonel: SilentStrider: secularsage: To anyone who hasn't seen the miniseries "The Corner," I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of "The Wire." (A lot of the same actors are in both.) If I remember correctly, De'Andre was in "The Wire" as the goon who tagged along with Brother Mouzone, and he was also one of the inspirations for Namond Brice, the kid in season 4 who has the long hair and who goes on to make something of himself when Colvin takes an interest in him.

I've not seen the series, but I have read the book. It was very powerful.

Same here. I read both of Simon's Baltimore books. Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, which the series "Homicide: Life on the Street" was based, and The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood. Read in series, Homicide first, they are very powerful and should be required reading for any politician. They're real eye openers.


The miniseries is VERY powerful, and you are not totally sure when you first watch it whether the people are actors or the show is a documentary (until the first time one of "The David Simon Players" makes an appearance that is) but using Charles Dutton as the narrator is a stroke of genius given his own history and connection to the violence of the Baltimore streets
 
2012-08-05 06:01:43 PM
I haven't seen "The Corner" or "The Wire" yet, but I will go on record as stating that "Homicide: Life on the Street" is the best cop show, ever.



/dammit, Netflix, get me The Wire already!
 
2012-08-05 06:16:43 PM

Galileo's Daughter: I haven't seen "The Corner" or "The Wire" yet, but I will go on record as stating that "Homicide: Life on the Street" is the best cop show, ever.


I was in elementary school when I watched it, but I remember loving Homicide.

/one of my older brother's friends was in a couple episodes
 
2012-08-05 06:32:11 PM

Galileo's Daughter: I haven't seen "The Corner" or "The Wire" yet, but I will go on record as stating that "Homicide: Life on the Street" is the best cop show, ever.



/dammit, NetflixHBO, get me The Wire already!


FTFY.
 
2012-08-05 06:38:39 PM
While it's a lesser known fact, this guy was also the inspiration for "Jaws" & "Jaws 3".
 
2012-08-05 08:34:02 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Galileo's Daughter: I haven't seen "The Corner" or "The Wire" yet, but I will go on record as stating that "Homicide: Life on the Street" is the best cop show, ever.



/dammit, NetflixHBO, get me The Wire already!

FTFY.


Yeah, don't hold your breath expecting to see The Wire -- or just about any other HBO series -- on Netflix Instant Streaming. They hold those shows for their own VOD service, or their HBO2Go app.

The only one I can think of is The Larry Sanders Show, and I don't think HBO actually produced that one themselves. Forget about seeing The Wire, or The Sopranos, or Oz, or Game of Thrones there anytime in the forseeable future though.

/bought all 5 seasons of The Wire on iTunes
//money well spent
 
2012-08-05 08:46:58 PM

jake_lex: Jim from Saint Paul: Galileo's Daughter: I haven't seen "The Corner" or "The Wire" yet, but I will go on record as stating that "Homicide: Life on the Street" is the best cop show, ever.



/dammit, NetflixHBO, get me The Wire already!

FTFY.

Yeah, don't hold your breath expecting to see The Wire -- or just about any other HBO series -- on Netflix Instant Streaming. They hold those shows for their own VOD service, or their HBO2Go app.

The only one I can think of is The Larry Sanders Show, and I don't think HBO actually produced that one themselves. Forget about seeing The Wire, or The Sopranos, or Oz, or Game of Thrones there anytime in the forseeable future though.

/bought all 5 seasons of The Wire on iTunes
//money well spent


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