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2012-08-04 06:14:49 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-04 06:46:14 PM  
Shocking that someone who didn't know what "German" is would make an ignorant statement.
 
2012-08-04 06:49:05 PM  
Fark the Indians, there I said it. I'm tired of being made to feel guilty for taking their land. I lost 2 large at the blackjack tables at the Hard Rock casino and I never lose at blackjack. So I'm square with the Indians. If they would have shown some solidarity and stopped killing each other long enough to fight the white man they could have kicked their asses. And if they had a better immune system.
 
2012-08-04 06:53:36 PM  
In Ontario, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs notes First Nations people who have a gas card don't have to pay a tax of 14.7 cents per litre on gasoline - but it's not free.

Can someone Canadian explain this to me then- do they pay X dollars/year for the card then or what? Never heard of this before.
 
2012-08-04 07:15:20 PM  
Hmm. Between this and the German thing...are we SURE he's not American?
 
2012-08-04 07:22:50 PM  
You gonna get scalped
 
2012-08-04 07:31:36 PM  
Just a little off the top.
 
2012-08-04 08:00:54 PM  

Andromeda: In Ontario, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs notes First Nations people who have a gas card don't have to pay a tax of 14.7 cents per litre on gasoline - but it's not free.

Can someone Canadian explain this to me then- do they pay X dollars/year for the card then or what? Never heard of this before.


No. Their status card exempts them from paying federal tax on gas and pretty much everything. It might affect provincial tax as well, but I don't know. They have to pay all other taxes though.
 
2012-08-04 08:05:44 PM  

Andromeda: In Ontario, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs notes First Nations people who have a gas card don't have to pay a tax of 14.7 cents per litre on gasoline - but it's not free.

Can someone Canadian explain this to me then- do they pay X dollars/year for the card then or what? Never heard of this before.


Warning, long.

No. Status Indians have what is called a Status card/certificate of Indian Status which exempts them from taxes on things purchased *on reserve* and certain things purchased off-rez, depending on the province. It also exempts things delivered to a rez address (eg. Furniture, online orders.) There is no fee for it, besides to get passport-style photos if applying through the mail.

Basically, someone is status eligible if at least one of their parents *and* two of their grandparents were. (Eg. My kids are status through my husband, but their kids won't be status unless the other parent of their kids has at least one status eligible parent themself.) A huge portion of Canada has some native ancestry, but being status eligible is something different entirely. I'm one generation removed from being eligible, myself, but don't consider myself Native at all.

Anyway, there's a lot of misconceptions about the tax exemptions for Natives. For instance, they don't pay income tax on income earned on a reserve, so many people think Natives don't pay any income tax at all, which is untrue. My husband pays just as much income tax as any other Canadian, though *if* he works on a reserve for even part of a day, which could happen in his line of work, he can claim that on his tax return and get the taxes paid on that portion of his income back, but he does have to prove the work was done on-rez.

The status card does have a lot of benefits, though, which are treaty rights for the most part. Prescription, dental, and vision coverage (100%) and the new card - the CSIS - allows travel across the border to the US without a passport. Because my husband is more than 50% of Native blood (he's 100%, but the law requires only 50% blood quantum) he can legally live and work in the US without a visa, even though he is a Canadian citizen.

Most people have no idea what the legal status, rights, and responsibilities are for Natives, but seem to feel free to run their mouths about it, so I'd caution anyone from taking seemingly amazing claims about Natives seriously.
 
2012-08-04 08:08:01 PM  
*SCIS. Stupid autocorrect.
 
2012-08-04 09:14:29 PM  
If the Natives got free gas, Winnipeg would be a smoldering pile of ash by now. As soon as they get a hold of something that creates fire, they feel a compulsion to burn something down with it.
 
2012-08-04 09:14:41 PM  
Wait a wealthy white child is resentful of imaginary privileges enjoyed by minorities?

Really?

Shocking.
 
2012-08-04 09:30:21 PM  
Sixteenth Chapel.
 
2012-08-04 09:32:50 PM  
Yes, being exempt from a tax is the same as getting it for free.

Farking retard.

This kid is worse than Nickelback.
 
2012-08-04 09:36:12 PM  

Kuroshin: Yes, being exempt from a tax is the same as getting it for free.

Farking retard.

This kid is worse than Nickelback.



Damn....That is no small feat.
 
2012-08-04 09:43:02 PM  
Headline: Native group mad at Justin Bieber

FTA: Dorey said Bieber is "still a young man" and "unaware of the facts."


Yeah, they sound furious. shiatty blog is shiatty.
 
2012-08-04 09:48:33 PM  
Him heap ignorant.
 
2012-08-04 09:55:34 PM  
Stupid is as stupid does.
 
2012-08-04 09:58:11 PM  
Ah, Sun News. Canada's answer to Fox and The Daily Fail.
 
2012-08-04 10:01:12 PM  

Mugato: Fark the Indians, there I said it. I'm tired of being made to feel guilty for taking their land. I lost 2 large at the blackjack tables at the Hard Rock casino and I never lose at blackjack. So I'm square with the Indians. If they would have shown some solidarity and stopped killing each other long enough to fight the white man they could have kicked their asses. And if they had a better immune system.


At least you didn't get screwed at the slot machines like so many others at Indian casinos... and lost big jackpot wins when the tribe decided there was a 'fault' with the slot machine and refused to pay the jackpot.

The only Indian casinos I've ever lost at in Blackjack was Cherokee Casino in Siloam Springs (who also owns Hard Rock in Tulsa, which is what I assume you're talking about) and Downstream up on the OK/MO border. I actually am up at Hard Rock Tulsa.
 
2012-08-04 10:02:38 PM  

Apos: Kuroshin: Yes, being exempt from a tax is the same as getting it for free.

Farking retard.

This kid is worse than Nickelback.


Damn....That is no small feat.


No, but he's dead-on right... besides, he was doing Selena Gomez and getting away with it. That's unforgivable in and of itself. Now that it's obvious that he's an idiot to boot...
 
2012-08-04 10:02:52 PM  
Would like a word..

kingludo.unblog.fr
 
2012-08-04 10:21:24 PM  
Between this and the other stupid shiat I've read that he's said in the past, I can safely confirm that this kid is an idiot.
 
2012-08-04 10:53:37 PM  
Say what you want about Justin Bieber, but he deserves respect for holding Conservatives accountable each night as host of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.
 
2012-08-04 10:53:43 PM  
Now I kinda wished that crazy biatch baby mama was right
 
2012-08-04 10:55:50 PM  
He said something stupid? it's like he's a teenager or something.
 
2012-08-04 11:16:29 PM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net

THANK YOU COME AGAIN!

Er- Oh wait...
 
2012-08-04 11:19:37 PM  

Funbags: Say what you want about Justin Bieber, but he deserves respect for holding Conservatives accountable each night as host of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.


Well-crafted joke, not overly political, somewhat subtle connection between Beebs and Maddow. Even though I'm a Maddow fan, I congratulate you.
 
2012-08-04 11:27:55 PM  

Funbags: Say what you want about Justin Bieber, but he deserves respect for holding Conservatives accountable each night as host of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.


I also loved his work in Juno and Hard Candy.
 
2012-08-04 11:36:26 PM  

gimmegimme: Funbags: Say what you want about Justin Bieber, but he deserves respect for holding Conservatives accountable each night as host of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.

Well-crafted joke, not overly political, somewhat subtle connection between Beebs and Maddow. Even though I'm a Maddow fan, I congratulate you.


Thanks. I'm not a particular fan of either, and at this point, I thought the Bieber/Maddow physical comparisons were a bit hackneyed on Fark. Pleased to be wrong.
 
2012-08-04 11:46:04 PM  

MidnightSkulker: Andromeda: In Ontario, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs notes First Nations people who have a gas card don't have to pay a tax of 14.7 cents per litre on gasoline - but it's not free.

Can someone Canadian explain this to me then- do they pay X dollars/year for the card then or what? Never heard of this before.

Warning, long.

No. Status Indians have what is called a Status card/certificate of Indian Status which exempts them from taxes on things purchased *on reserve* and certain things purchased off-rez, depending on the province. It also exempts things delivered to a rez address (eg. Furniture, online orders.) There is no fee for it, besides to get passport-style photos if applying through the mail.

Basically, someone is status eligible if at least one of their parents *and* two of their grandparents were. (Eg. My kids are status through my husband, but their kids won't be status unless the other parent of their kids has at least one status eligible parent themself.) A huge portion of Canada has some native ancestry, but being status eligible is something different entirely. I'm one generation removed from being eligible, myself, but don't consider myself Native at all.

Anyway, there's a lot of misconceptions about the tax exemptions for Natives. For instance, they don't pay income tax on income earned on a reserve, so many people think Natives don't pay any income tax at all, which is untrue. My husband pays just as much income tax as any other Canadian, though *if* he works on a reserve for even part of a day, which could happen in his line of work, he can claim that on his tax return and get the taxes paid on that portion of his income back, but he does have to prove the work was done on-rez.

The status card does have a lot of benefits, though, which are treaty rights for the most part. Prescription, dental, and vision coverage (100%) and the new card - the CSIS - allows travel across the border to the US without a passport. Because my husband is more t ...



what is the policy goal being furthered by exempting indians specifically from taxes?
 
2012-08-04 11:59:40 PM  

farkityfarker: Sixteenth Chapel.


Heh. You saw that Letterman appearance, too?
 
2012-08-05 12:01:56 AM  
Oh Biebs
farm5.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-05 12:49:37 AM  

janzee: Would like a word..

[kingludo.unblog.fr image 495x375]


His character was not Native American/Canadian he was adopted by the chief of the tribe. Loved "Little Big Man" it is one of my favorite movies.
 
2012-08-05 12:58:32 AM  
Oh, give the twerp a break, he's got bigger problems right now.

blogs.ajc.com

Penis goes where???
 
2012-08-05 02:18:43 AM  

Mugato: Fark the Indians, there I said it. I'm tired of being made to feel guilty for taking their land. I lost 2 large at the blackjack tables at the Hard Rock casino and I never lose at blackjack. So I'm square with the Indians. If they would have shown some solidarity and stopped killing each other long enough to fight the white man they could have kicked their asses. And if they had a better immune system.


All of the people alive when the land was conquered, are dead. "We" owe "them" nothing. Everyone born in this country in modern times is a native. Most of our parents were born here, as well as their parents. People should not be held responsible to their ancestors behavior, nor should people benefit from what was done to their ancestors.

relcec: what is the policy goal being furthered by exempting indians specifically from taxes?


Racism.
 
2012-08-05 03:01:47 AM  
img38.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-05 04:02:05 AM  
I'd be a little pissed if I found out that some millionaire was allowed to fill up his car completely at the expense of tax payers.

Now, if he's using his card to get this gas, and he thinks he's not paying for it, is it possible that he doesn't know what a debit or credit card is?
 
2012-08-05 04:52:19 AM  

gimmegimme: Hmm. Between this and the German thing...are we SURE he's not American?


No, he's part Canadian and part Indian Asian Immigrant
 
2012-08-05 07:30:03 AM  

relcec: what is the policy goal being furthered by exempting indians specifically from taxes?


Not a policy goal. It goes back to the treaties, and is enshrined in the Indian Act (which, despite the few things it protects, is a ridiculously racist piece of legislation.)
 
2012-08-05 08:08:52 AM  
You know, in all my years I never learned about/thought about "Indians" in Canada. I'm a little ashamed of myself.
 
2012-08-05 10:18:21 AM  

MidnightSkulker: Andromeda: In Ontario, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs notes First Nations people who have a gas card don't have to pay a tax of 14.7 cents per litre on gasoline - but it's not free.

Can someone Canadian explain this to me then- do they pay X dollars/year for the card then or what? Never heard of this before.

Warning, long.

No. Status Indians have what is called a Status card/certificate of Indian Status which exempts them from taxes on things purchased *on reserve* and certain things purchased off-rez, depending on the province. It also exempts things delivered to a rez address (eg. Furniture, online orders.) There is no fee for it, besides to get passport-style photos if applying through the mail.

Basically, someone is status eligible if at least one of their parents *and* two of their grandparents were. (Eg. My kids are status through my husband, but their kids won't be status unless the other parent of their kids has at least one status eligible parent themself.) A huge portion of Canada has some native ancestry, but being status eligible is something different entirely. I'm one generation removed from being eligible, myself, but don't consider myself Native at all.

Anyway, there's a lot of misconceptions about the tax exemptions for Natives. For instance, they don't pay income tax on income earned on a reserve, so many people think Natives don't pay any income tax at all, which is untrue. My husband pays just as much income tax as any other Canadian, though *if* he works on a reserve for even part of a day, which could happen in his line of work, he can claim that on his tax return and get the taxes paid on that portion of his income back, but he does have to prove the work was done on-rez.

The status card does have a lot of benefits, though, which are treaty rights for the most part. Prescription, dental, and vision coverage (100%) and the new card - the CSIS - allows travel across the border to the US without a passport. Because my husband is more than 50% of Native blood (he's 100%, but the law requires only 50% blood quantum) he can legally live and work in the US without a visa, even though he is a Canadian citizen.

Most people have no idea what the legal status, rights, and responsibilities are for Natives, but seem to feel free to run their mouths about it, so I'd caution anyone from taking seemingly amazing claims about Natives seriously.


This.

I'm Metis and I don't get a single goddamn thing for free and neither does my family. We grew up poor and I was only able to afford a post secondary education because I worked for 2 years after highschool. Most other people with native ancestry are in the same boat. So Bieber can shut up. He doesn't even know what nation he's from or even his clan?? I'd wager he's lying.
 
2012-08-05 11:59:49 AM  
How did our oil get underneath their shiatty reservations?
 
2012-08-05 02:07:21 PM  
My girlfriend has status. It sure is handy when we are driving through a rez and need gas. It is also helpful if I screw up reading the fishing regs and accidentally keep too many fish or the wrong size. She can kill anything with that card!
 
2012-08-05 03:43:50 PM  
I am getting a kick out of this because I am going to a BBQ at Louis Riel's great grand son's place tonight !
 
2012-08-05 04:10:10 PM  
""I'm actually part Indian. I think Inuit or something?" If you're claiming to be an Indian, shouldn't at least know your nation?
 
2012-08-05 08:47:18 PM  

MidnightSkulker: relcec: what is the policy goal being furthered by exempting indians specifically from taxes?

Not a policy goal. It goes back to the treaties, and is enshrined in the Indian Act (which, despite the few things it protects, is a ridiculously racist piece of legislation.)


Oh, the Indian Act is ridiculously racist, but every time the government tries to amend it to modernize it half the native reserves praise it and the other half rally against the changes. It then dies because no one wants to piss off that many people.
 
2012-08-06 08:33:47 AM  
Justin Bieber has no idea what a band card actually does. However the Natives here DO get a free ride.

F*cking lazy entitled destructive race of people.
Why do the reserves turn into third world conditions? Because they do things like tear the cupboards down to put in their campfires. They're a destructive, lazy, drunk ruined race of people. Once proud, respectful of nature, all that sh*t.
Now? They expect the Canadian government to 'give' them Toronto, or Hamilton. And they're allowed to do WHATEVER they want.

Go up north. Way up. Try to find a cop who'll arrest a native. Natives stagger around town all day harassing people, and nothing happens cause the cops (who are just up there working to get experience), know that they'll be targeted for "racism".

They occupied land for years. Read that again. They were actively occupying Canadian land. The last time I checked, that was an act of war. I don't care who it is, you can't just occupy land because you're pissed off about something that happened hundreds of years ago that you weren't even there for. Are the no taxes and free education not enough?

Also, life sucks. Life sucks ass. Just because you lose a war doesn't entitle you to have it given all back. Maybe you should have been inventing guns instead of hanging boys by their pectoral muscles as part of some rite of passage. I don't agree with the mistreatment of anyone, but just please get over it. No one is forcing you to live on these reserves. No one is stopping you from buying a house like a normal citizen.

A native drunkenly takes his toddlers out in the cold and they die. Guess what happens? Go on, guess.
Instead of facing the Canadian criminal system, he is "put in front of a group of elders".

There is a lot of unjust things in this world, the kid gloves in which we are forced to treat all these natives is one of them.
 
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