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(The New York Times)   What if you compared an Olympic athlete not only with his current competitors, but with all of the medalists in the event in modern Olympic history? (Video / Chart)   (nytimes.com) divider line 25
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2012-08-04 07:38:53 PM  
...You'd get something that says a lot more about differences in swimsuit technology/training than any sort of actual comparison between swimmers?"
 
2012-08-04 07:43:33 PM  

kevinatilusa: ...You'd get something that says a lot more about differences in swimsuit technology/training than any sort of actual comparison between swimmers?"


I would like to see how fast they can do 100m in 55 degree open water like the first olympics.
 
2012-08-04 07:44:11 PM  
Pretty interesting actually! Thanks Subs
 
2012-08-04 07:48:11 PM  
I enjoyed that video, good find.
 
2012-08-04 08:50:29 PM  
Johnny Weissmuller was the real deal.
 
2012-08-04 09:05:18 PM  
Why would you want to do that when could just stare at the patoots of all those beach volleyball babes?
 
2012-08-04 09:10:41 PM  
I barely made my varsity swim team and I could swim the 100m under 1 minute - which would have put me as the world record holder until 1922. The fastest swimmer at my high school would have held the world record until sometime in the 1970s. I could give the example of the fastest swimmer I ever swam against, but that's Matt Grevers (gold medal in 100 backstroke a few days ago), who would have had the world record back in 2008 with his best 100 free time.
 
2012-08-04 09:16:59 PM  
BTW a lot of wikipedia pages for various swimming events have world record progression tables, which are real interesting to see. Also have them for track and field events. Likewise interesting to see.
 
2012-08-04 09:25:08 PM  

12349876: I would like to see how fast they can do 100m in 55 degree open water like the first olympics.


That would be interesting to see.
 
2012-08-04 09:33:45 PM  
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I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.
 
2012-08-04 10:08:35 PM  

Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.


nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.
 
2012-08-04 10:11:04 PM  

12349876: kevinatilusa: ...You'd get something that says a lot more about differences in swimsuit technology/training than any sort of actual comparison between swimmers?"

I would like to see how fast they can do 100m in 55 degree open water like the first olympics.




Also worth mentioning related to that Olympics (from the 11 craziest events headline)

The organizers of the Athens Olympics held the swimming events in the open waters of the Bay of Zea on a morning in which the waters dropped to a temperature of 55 degrees and the waves reached as high as 12 feet. The winner was 15-year old Hungarian Alfred Hajos, who had felt compelled to learn to swim after witnessing his father drown in the Danube two years prior. Hajos recounted that he was scared for his life, and his will to live completely overcame any desire to win the race.
 
2012-08-04 10:44:17 PM  

12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.


Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.
 
2012-08-04 11:08:02 PM  

12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.


Dutch rudder.
 
2012-08-04 11:12:11 PM  

2wolves: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Dutch rudder.


Some folks might just swim in circles.
 
2012-08-04 11:26:15 PM  

Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.


The fina made men's suit be between the waist & knees. They tried that full body suit thing.
 
2012-08-04 11:30:41 PM  

Silly Jesus: Not much to be flopping


For some of them it just looks that way because of how their swimsuits compress down on their upper bodies.
 
2012-08-04 11:30:43 PM  

KingVJ: Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.

The fina made men's suit be between the waist & knees. They tried that full body suit thing.


So they were going too fast?
 
2012-08-05 12:09:19 AM  

Silly Jesus: KingVJ: Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.

The fina made men's suit be between the waist & knees. They tried that full body suit thing.

So they were going too fast?


Essentially, yes. It was made illegal because not every team had access to it.
 
2012-08-05 12:19:26 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Silly Jesus: KingVJ: Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.

The fina made men's suit be between the waist & knees. They tried that full body suit thing.

So they were going too fast?

Essentially, yes. It was made illegal because not every team had access to it.


So the women on other teams swam topless? It'd essentially be the same uniform right? I thought it was an issue with the material itself, not the design / length etc.

Nude would solve all this nonsense. The Greeks had it right.
 
2012-08-05 01:46:07 AM  

Silly Jesus: KingVJ: Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.

The fina made men's suit be between the waist & knees. They tried that full body suit thing.

So they were going too fast?


No they wanted to limit the technology & bring it back to the person vs. person.
 
2012-08-05 05:13:35 AM  
To every question in that video i believe the correct answer is, " Because they didn't take Steroids."
 
2012-08-05 07:26:02 AM  
I was curious the other night, and Missy Franklin's WR gold in the 200m backstroke beat the 1950s world record by about 35 seconds, a big margin for a race that's now just over two minutes.

Link
 
2012-08-05 11:00:41 AM  

Silly Jesus: 12349876: Silly Jesus: [dribbble.s3.amazonaws.com image 400x300]

I wonder if nude would be quicker. Can't be far off.

nope, too much drag by floppy naughty bits.

Have you seen those women? Not much to be flopping. They appear to be formed similarly to the men...so if it saved that much time, the men would be wearing the full body suits too.


I think they have their breasts strapped down.

I haven't seen many big boobs on the beach volleyball players either.
 
2012-08-05 12:07:00 PM  

Silly Jesus: Nude would solve all this nonsense. The Greeks had it right.


So true. Eliminate all team sports, reduce the Olympics to feats of pure human prowess, none of this badminton/handball/water polo nonsense. I'm torn on short track cycling, since you can't eliminate all "tool" use in things like javelin, pole vault, etc. Everyone competes nude, you can paint things on people's backs for identification.

By far and away the most impressive things I've seen this Olympics this far have been things like the women's 10000M, the swimming, and the gymnastics. (Also torn, feel like that could be significantly pared down.) The events that most directly feature what a *person* is capable of by themselves, not with some counterbalanced, sighted, carbon-fiber/kevlar precision machined "bow".
 
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