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2012-08-04 08:00:44 AM  
Another startling discovery by Dr. Romero.
 
2012-08-04 09:05:14 AM  
Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.
 
2012-08-04 09:10:34 AM  
Most are only bisexual for money, drinks, or attention.
 
2012-08-04 09:17:33 AM  

miss diminutive: Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.



Is it pleasant enough to get you aroused ?

/Sorry
//This thread is wasted in the geek tab
 
2012-08-04 09:33:53 AM  

One Bad Apple: miss diminutive: Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Is it pleasant enough to get you aroused ?

/Sorry
//This thread is wasted in the geek tab


It probably should. Apparently I should be in a state of constant arousal to protect my vagina on the off chance some guy gets that rapey vibe.

img109.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-04 09:35:19 AM  
Good to know
 
2012-08-04 09:41:20 AM  

miss diminutive: It probably should. Apparently I should be in a state of constant arousal to protect my vagina on the off chance some guy gets that rapey vibe.


Dentata.
 
2012-08-04 09:47:41 AM  
If you're bisexual and you know it clap your hands...
 
2012-08-04 09:48:21 AM  

RexTalionis: miss diminutive: It probably should. Apparently I should be in a state of constant arousal to protect my vagina on the off chance some guy gets that rapey vibe.

Dentata.


Dammit. Now I have that song stuck in my head
 
2012-08-04 09:49:47 AM  
FTA: "Researchers asked about 300 study participants to watch 30-second videos of people of both sexes masturbating, and tracked the dilation of participants' pupils in response."

There needs to be more studies like this one.
 
2012-08-04 09:56:37 AM  

ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Researchers asked about 300 study participants to watch 30-second videos of people of both sexes masturbating, and tracked the dilation of participants' pupils in response."

There needs to be more studies like this one.


I wonder if the participants were aware that they would be watching people masturbating as part of the study.

I can just see some prudish type thinking they were signing up for a simple psychological study being shocked and appalled that they basically had to watch men and women touch themselves in naughty, naughty ways in the name of science.
 
2012-08-04 10:03:32 AM  

miss diminutive: ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Researchers asked about 300 study participants to watch 30-second videos of people of both sexes masturbating, and tracked the dilation of participants' pupils in response."

There needs to be more studies like this one.

I wonder if the participants were aware that they would be watching people masturbating as part of the study.

I can just see some prudish type thinking they were signing up for a simple psychological study being shocked and appalled that they basically had to watch men and women touch themselves in naughty, naughty ways in the name of science.


That's a good question - were they aware of what they'd be watching? And their responses would have been interesting. Maybe the ones protesting the most (or squirming the most) would be the ones whose pupils dilate the most.
 
2012-08-04 10:31:51 AM  

ms_lara_croft: miss diminutive: ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Researchers asked about 300 study participants to watch 30-second videos of people of both sexes masturbating, and tracked the dilation of participants' pupils in response."

There needs to be more studies like this one.

I wonder if the participants were aware that they would be watching people masturbating as part of the study.

I can just see some prudish type thinking they were signing up for a simple psychological study being shocked and appalled that they basically had to watch men and women touch themselves in naughty, naughty ways in the name of science.

That's a good question - were they aware of what they'd be watching? And their responses would have been interesting. Maybe the ones protesting the most (or squirming the most) would be the ones whose pupils dilate the most.


Go on, you two...
 
2012-08-04 10:51:25 AM  
How about the 10% of males that said they were straight who were dilating at only the men? Why wasn't that reported? I guess they want to keep their funding.
 
2012-08-04 12:44:20 PM  
Wait... studying pupil dilation while making them watch video?

Did they graph that against the relative light level coming off the screen?

If the female scenes were filmed with even a slightly lower light level... say a different color room background or a slightly closer camera or something...
 
2012-08-04 12:50:59 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: ms_lara_croft: miss diminutive: ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Researchers asked about 300 study participants to watch 30-second videos of people of both sexes masturbating, and tracked the dilation of participants' pupils in response."

There needs to be more studies like this one.

I wonder if the participants were aware that they would be watching people masturbating as part of the study.

I can just see some prudish type thinking they were signing up for a simple psychological study being shocked and appalled that they basically had to watch men and women touch themselves in naughty, naughty ways in the name of science.

That's a good question - were they aware of what they'd be watching? And their responses would have been interesting. Maybe the ones protesting the most (or squirming the most) would be the ones whose pupils dilate the most.

Go on, you two...


I'm just waiting for the part where they start kissing.

/ I'll be here all day
 
2012-08-04 12:52:55 PM  
It's been known for a whole that women have arousal responses to practically any sexual imagery. This is not the same thing as sexual orientation. So unfortunately, this is another case of totally crap sexuality science.

Let me give you an example of how arousal/choice of porn doesn't indicate orientation. A lot of lesbians like watching gay porn. This doesn't make lesbians gay men, or even bisexuals, which would imply significant attraction to 2+ genders over the long term.

I wish all women were bi since I'm actually bi. That would be awesome. But it's not the case.
 
2012-08-04 12:54:02 PM  
flixchatter.files.wordpress.com
A legitimate use for the Voight-Kampff test....
 
2012-08-04 01:00:44 PM  

FarkeeDeSade: [flixchatter.files.wordpress.com image 500x324]
A legitimate use for the Voight-Kampff test....


Your in a desert, and you see a little man in a boat, you decide to flick this man, he's there laying in his boat, soaking wet...
 
2012-08-04 01:07:54 PM  

loonatic112358: FarkeeDeSade: [flixchatter.files.wordpress.com image 500x324]
A legitimate use for the Voight-Kampff test....

Your in a desert, and you see a little man in a boat, you decide to flick this man, he's there laying in his boat, soaking wet...


I'd shoot you under the table for "your".
 
2012-08-04 01:11:02 PM  

DON.MAC: How about the 10% of males that said they were straight who were dilating at only the men? Why wasn't that reported?


Not News.

Because they were all Evangelical Republicans.
 
2012-08-04 01:16:02 PM  

bobbette: It's been known for a whole that women have arousal responses to practically any sexual imagery. This is not the same thing as sexual orientation. So unfortunately, this is another case of totally crap sexuality science.

Let me give you an example of how arousal/choice of porn doesn't indicate orientation. A lot of lesbians like watching gay porn. This doesn't make lesbians gay men, or even bisexuals, which would imply significant attraction to 2+ genders over the long term.

I wish all women were bi since I'm actually bi. That would be awesome. But it's not the case.


So, what are you doing later?
 
2012-08-04 01:16:17 PM  

loonatic112358: Your in a desert, and you see a little man in a boat, you decide to flick this man, he's there laying in his boat, soaking wet...


Is this testing whether I'm a Replicant or a Lesbian?
 
2012-08-04 01:20:43 PM  

bobbette: A lot of lesbians like watching gay porn. This doesn't make lesbians gay men, or even bisexuals


i.imgur.com

Are you suggesting lesbian identity might be threatened by bisexual women, the concept of bisexuality and the subsequent deconstruction of sexual orientation as a useful concept? This is my SHOCKED face:

/get over it
 
2012-08-04 01:22:13 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: I'd shoot you under the table for "your".


that is the least of my crimes against grammar
 
2012-08-04 01:23:42 PM  

Somacandra: loonatic112358: Your in a desert, and you see a little man in a boat, you decide to flick this man, he's there laying in his boat, soaking wet...

Is this testing whether I'm a Replicant or a Lesbian?


or to see if you're some sort of wonderful hybrid of the two
 
2012-08-04 01:24:18 PM  

One Bad Apple: miss diminutive: Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.


Is it pleasant enough to get you aroused ?

/Sorry
//This thread is wasted in the geek tab


There's nothing pleasant about process of acquiring additional food sources to sustain additional lubrication
 
2012-08-04 01:30:40 PM  

miss diminutive: If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.


Not the first I've heard of it. Women have been known to become physically aroused and even orgasm when being violently raped. From an evolution perspective, it's better than hemorrhaging to death.

It makes the emotional fallout a million times worse, though. Confusion, guilt, suicidal depression and a crisis of self-worth. In way too many cases they convince themselves they weren't even raped because they "enjoyed" it, and most guys are happy to accept that explanation. And if they're hyper-religious with a couple of tone-dead prudes for parents? Make the trauma a billion times worse. What with how woefully inadequate our mental health support system is, odds are very slim the victim gets some semblance of a normal life back.

I do know one friend who was raped and experienced this defense mechanism. Luckily she's a smart girl (areligious too) and knew about it beforehand. That didn't make the victimization any easier, but she was spared the confusion and much of the trauma.
 
2012-08-04 01:33:20 PM  
NEWS FLASH: society enforces homo/heterosexual stereotypes; other animals are not homo or hetero sexual, they are just sexual.

One male dog sniffs, licks another male dog's butt, dick; does that make him homosexual? not at all.

/heterosexual
 
2012-08-04 01:34:03 PM  

LewDux: One Bad Apple: miss diminutive: Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.



Is that why so much saliva?
 
2012-08-04 01:34:06 PM  
Less talky. More pictures of what bisexual women may or may not look like.

Hell, there's one in the sidebar.

fark.upi.com
 
2012-08-04 01:40:26 PM  

dragonchild: miss diminutive: If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Not the first I've heard of it. Women have been known to become physically aroused and even orgasm when being violently raped. From an evolution perspective, it's better than hemorrhaging to death.

It makes the emotional fallout a million times worse, though. Confusion, guilt, suicidal depression and a crisis of self-worth. In way too many cases they convince themselves they weren't even raped because they "enjoyed" it, and most guys are happy to accept that explanation. And if they're hyper-religious with a couple of tone-dead prudes for parents? Make the trauma a billion times worse. What with how woefully inadequate our mental health support system is, odds are very slim the victim gets some semblance of a normal life back.

I do know one friend who was raped and experienced this defense mechanism. Luckily she's a smart girl (areligious too) and knew about it beforehand. That didn't make the victimization any easier, but she was spared the confusion and much of the trauma.


Honestly, that's the first time I've ever heard of it although it really does make sense from the perspective you mentioned. I could definitely see that kind of physical response being a complete mindfark for those women who didn't know.
 
2012-08-04 01:41:25 PM  

bobbette: A lot of lesbians like watching gay porn.


Say what?
 
2012-08-04 01:45:03 PM  

Somacandra: bobbette: A lot of lesbians like watching gay porn. This doesn't make lesbians gay men, or even bisexuals

[i.imgur.com image 320x238]

Are you suggesting lesbian identity might be threatened by bisexual women, the concept of bisexuality and the subsequent deconstruction of sexual orientation as a useful concept? This is my SHOCKED face:

/get over it


No, I'm not suggesting that. Nor do I think it's true that contemporary lesbian identity (I'd say "queer culture" to be accurate) is threatened by bisexuality or queerness in any form it comes in. I also don't think sexual orientation has been remotely deconstructed as a useful concept, although I think it has been challenged by mainly queer women on the grounds that aspects of it are more applicable to men, like the concept of having a fixed identity over time. There are continually evolving ways of describing sexual orientation, but some aspect of identity will always exist as a descriptor of people who like X, Y or Z, and the descriptor of women who still principally like women is still "lesbian" and I don't see any problems with it - it's a bigger problem that women who like women and also male-bodied, male-identified people generally go unrecognized in both pop culture and queer culture.
 
2012-08-04 01:45:03 PM  
Commence with the photos.
 
2012-08-04 01:46:58 PM  

urban.derelict: NEWS FLASH: society enforces homo/heterosexual stereotypes; other animals are not homo or hetero sexual, they are just sexual.


Meh, it's just an adjective to describe a preference. I like bacon; mushrooms make me retch. It's not the mushroom's fault; I just can't stand the damn things. I'd rather eat bacon, and when I call myself a "carnivore" people get the point. I'm into farking women, I'm not in the least bit physically attracted to men. If I was gay, I'd be gay. I'm just not. It's convenient to call that "heterosexual".

The words can still mean things; the mistake is thinking there's any deal to be made over sexual preference. No one gives a shiat anymore if someone is left-handed; sexuality is about as meaningless as far as self-worth is concerned. I care more if you cut me off in traffic, you asshole.
 
2012-08-04 01:47:53 PM  

comslave: Commence with the photos.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.

For your personal erotica site I'd suggest starting here. NSFW, extremely sexy.
 
2012-08-04 01:53:04 PM  

dragonchild: urban.derelict: NEWS FLASH: society enforces homo/heterosexual stereotypes; other animals are not homo or hetero sexual, they are just sexual.

Meh, it's just an adjective to describe a preference. I like bacon; mushrooms make me retch. It's not the mushroom's fault; I just can't stand the damn things. I'd rather eat bacon, and when I call myself a "carnivore" people get the point. I'm into farking women, I'm not in the least bit physically attracted to men. If I was gay, I'd be gay. I'm just not. It's convenient to call that "heterosexual".

The words can still mean things; the mistake is thinking there's any deal to be made over sexual preference. No one gives a shiat anymore if someone is left-handed; sexuality is about as meaningless as far as self-worth is concerned. I care more if you cut me off in traffic, you asshole.


That's good for you, but as the fat tards lining up to buy fast food chicken to prove how much they hate gay people demonstrate, not everybody feels that way.

There is a big deal to be made about sexual preference if you have one that isn't the majority, because you are fewer in number and marked out as different. These things all have implications. On the one hand there's hostility, on the other, there's community and a culture that parallels the heterosexual one.
 
2012-08-04 01:55:33 PM  

miss diminutive: Honestly, that's the first time I've ever heard of it although it really does make sense from the perspective you mentioned. I could definitely see that kind of physical response being a complete mindfark for those women who didn't know.


Some women have been known to become very promiscuous after a sexual assault. This has often been attributed to a simple crisis of self-worth, but -- and I admit I'm speculating here because data is sketchy to nonexistent -- I think if they had the "defensive arousal" response, becoming a slut is often the only way they can make sense of what happened. "I got horny while being raped, well this must be who I am, then."

It's one reason among many I have a seething hatred for organized religion and their crusade against knowledge. The ability to understand one's own body on an academic level makes a HUGE difference. Sexual assault shouldn't happen, but it does, and the more everyone knows about these sorts of things, the better. Again, my friend managed to survive her assault, well, psychologically damaged but in the long run she made it back to well-adjusted. If all a woman knows is "sex is evil and if you enjoy it you're a whore" herpa derp, the "defensive arousal" response isn't just a mindfark; it can outright break them. If I hear of a churchgoing woman getting raped the first thing I'd suggest is putting them on 24-hour suicide watch just in case.
 
2012-08-04 01:57:34 PM  

dragonchild: miss diminutive: Honestly, that's the first time I've ever heard of it although it really does make sense from the perspective you mentioned. I could definitely see that kind of physical response being a complete mindfark for those women who didn't know.

Some women have been known to become very promiscuous after a sexual assault. This has often been attributed to a simple crisis of self-worth, but -- and I admit I'm speculating here because data is sketchy to nonexistent -- I think if they had the "defensive arousal" response, becoming a slut is often the only way they can make sense of what happened. "I got horny while being raped, well this must be who I am, then."

It's one reason among many I have a seething hatred for organized religion and their crusade against knowledge. The ability to understand one's own body on an academic level makes a HUGE difference. Sexual assault shouldn't happen, but it does, and the more everyone knows about these sorts of things, the better. Again, my friend managed to survive her assault, well, psychologically damaged but in the long run she made it back to well-adjusted. If all a woman knows is "sex is evil and if you enjoy it you're a whore" herpa derp, the "defensive arousal" response isn't just a mindfark; it can outright break them. If I hear of a churchgoing woman getting raped the first thing I'd suggest is putting them on 24-hour suicide watch just in case.


Have a seething hate for ignorance, not against organizations. Organizations can change; ignorance does not.
 
2012-08-04 02:00:41 PM  

bobbette: There is a big deal to be made about sexual preference if you have one that isn't the majority, because you are fewer in number and marked out as different. These things all have implications.


Oh, I grok. Not that I've had it that bad, but similar ostracization has been known to happen among, say, racially homogenous schools. The lone kid the wrong color gets it about as bad. Religion is, in my experience, not the modifier of human behavior it's made out to be. It's the opposite. Religion is what allows people to justify what they'd do otherwise. That why people convert, defect. . . they literally shop for religions. If one makes living too hard, they move to a different one.

So, it's really just that people are stupid assholes who never fail to have an excuse to be jerks to those they see as different. They don't oppose homosexuality because it's a sin; they oppose it because they think it's yucky so they'll pore over every damn line in the Old Testament to find that one phrase they can use as a weapon. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna look through scripture to find evidence that eating mushrooms is evil.
 
2012-08-04 02:02:41 PM  
Lesbian thread?! :D

dragonchild: miss diminutive: If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Not the first I've heard of it. Women have been known to become physically aroused and even orgasm when being violently raped. From an evolution perspective, it's better than hemorrhaging to death.

It makes the emotional fallout a million times worse, though. Confusion, guilt, suicidal depression and a crisis of self-worth. In way too many cases they convince themselves they weren't even raped because they "enjoyed" it, and most guys are happy to accept that explanation. And if they're hyper-religious with a couple of tone-dead prudes for parents? Make the trauma a billion times worse. What with how woefully inadequate our mental health support system is, odds are very slim the victim gets some semblance of a normal life back.

I do know one friend who was raped and experienced this defense mechanism. Luckily she's a smart girl (areligious too) and knew about it beforehand. That didn't make the victimization any easier, but she was spared the confusion and much of the trauma.


www.sectalk.com
 
2012-08-04 02:04:56 PM  

dragonchild: miss diminutive: If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Not the first I've heard of it. Women have been known to become physically aroused and even orgasm when being violently raped. From an evolution perspective, it's better than hemorrhaging to death.

It makes the emotional fallout a million times worse, though. Confusion, guilt, suicidal depression and a crisis of self-worth. In way too many cases they convince themselves they weren't even raped because they "enjoyed" it, and most guys are happy to accept that explanation. And if they're hyper-religious with a couple of tone-dead prudes for parents? Make the trauma a billion times worse. What with how woefully inadequate our mental health support system is, odds are very slim the victim gets some semblance of a normal life back.

I do know one friend who was raped and experienced this defense mechanism. Luckily she's a smart girl (areligious too) and knew about it beforehand. That didn't make the victimization any easier, but she was spared the confusion and much of the trauma.


Yep. Hell I thought it was common knowledge.

Also I suspect women are more likely to be bisexual because evolutionarily speaking, gay sex was/is likely to get you murdered while lesbian sex was/is likely to get you a mate.
 
2012-08-04 02:06:28 PM  
We're all bisexual to some degree.
 
2012-08-04 02:11:27 PM  

TheBigJerk: Also I suspect women are more likely to be bisexual because evolutionarily speaking, gay sex was/is likely to get you murdered while lesbian sex was/is likely to get you a mate.


I'm sure there's evidence to back up this utterly preposterous evolutionary claim, right?
 
2012-08-04 02:22:07 PM  

bobbette: TheBigJerk: Also I suspect women are more likely to be bisexual because evolutionarily speaking, gay sex was/is likely to get you murdered while lesbian sex was/is likely to get you a mate.

I'm sure there's evidence to back up this utterly preposterous evolutionary claim, right?


Evolutionary evidence? Nope. Modern evidence? Walk into any college bar.
 
2012-08-04 02:24:12 PM  

studebaker hoch: We're all bisexual to some degree.


The only guy I'd have sex with is myself

/told to go fark myself so often I developed a repetitive stress fapping injury
 
2012-08-04 02:34:29 PM  
This thread had so much potential. WTF, Fark? You used to be cool!
 
2012-08-04 02:37:47 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: This thread had so much potential. WTF, Fark? You used to be cool!


Like I said ; this is wasted in the geek tab.
 
2012-08-04 02:39:50 PM  
I had six male anoles in a terrarium.
The smallest one got to play the "female" role with all that entails.
At feeding time, the largest lizard got to eat first, the smallest one, second and everybody else had to scramble for what was left.
This (cool) story (bro) has nothing to do with anything, really and it's totally not a bookmark in case this thread takes off in an interesting direction.
 
2012-08-04 03:11:56 PM  
Smeggy Smurf

studebaker hoch: We're all bisexual to some degree.

The only guy I'd have sex with is myself

/told to go fark myself so often I developed a repetitive stress fapping injury


Threre's a threshold level of same-sex attraction that must be reached before a person would actually do it.

Lots of people out there that are straight as a laser beam, but if they were hypothetically stranded on an island for years with only a same-sex supermodel for companionship, and an unlimited supply of booze, and hypothetically knew for a fact that nobody would ever find out, might eventually give it a shot.

/I am not a sex behavioralist, but my guess would be "And sooner than later".
 
2012-08-04 03:16:05 PM  
That's why I serve these when my wife invites her friends over.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-04 03:24:04 PM  
My pupil dilation has indicated that I am very very attracted to darkness.
 
2012-08-04 03:44:03 PM  
Women's sexuality is much more fluid than men's.
The ladies do seem to be more prone to bisexual experimentation than the fellows do.
I mean, (ladies:) who here hasn't fooled around with a girlfriend just to see what it would be like?

It happens. I do think a lot of women drop the bi label once they settle down though.
 
2012-08-04 03:50:17 PM  
Next up: Proof that all lesbians just need a good deep dicking from a manly man to become straight.
 
2012-08-04 04:00:30 PM  

LittleMissStubborn: Women's sexuality is much more fluid than men's.
The ladies do seem to be more prone to bisexual experimentation than the fellows do.
I mean, (ladies:) who here hasn't fooled around with a girlfriend just to see what it would be like?


Uh, me?
 
2012-08-04 04:00:33 PM  

LittleMissStubborn: Women's sexuality is much more fluid than men's.
The ladies do seem to be more prone to bisexual experimentation than the fellows do.
I mean, (ladies:) who here hasn't fooled around with a girlfriend just to see what it would be like?

It happens. I do think a lot of women drop the bi label once they settle down though.


Which raises an important question. How many "experiments" does it take with the same sex before a woman is considered bisexual?

I know there's a double standard there as well. it seems like if a guy fools around with another man he's labelled gay, at least by other men.
 
2012-08-04 04:01:51 PM  

TheBigJerk: I suspect women are more likely to be bisexual because evolutionarily speaking, gay sex was/is likely to get you murdered while lesbian sex was/is likely to get you a mate.


Nah. Homosexuality isn't a big deal for large swaths of cultures and history, and society hasn't existed long enough for it to change our genetic makeup. Savin-Williams' theory at least works on several different levels, as defensive arousal is documented and rape is found in nature as much as any other sexual behavior.
 
2012-08-04 04:10:02 PM  

miss diminutive: How many "experiments" does it take with the same sex before a woman is considered bisexual?


Considered? Hell if I know. Actually so? The number of experiments doesn't matter. It's an issue of arousal, which is where this study draws a dubious conclusion. They measured pupil dilation and surveyed self-declared sexual preference, but didn't track when any subjects got "in the mood". They got the correlation they wanted and sure it may filter out some statistical noise in the form of denial or dishonest feedback (for example, a guy so terrified of homosexuality he'd never admit to getting turned on by a guy masturbating, even anonymously). But methinks there's still quite a gap between pupil dilation and puddle-on-the-floor horny.
 
2012-08-04 04:21:43 PM  

miss diminutive: One Bad Apple: miss diminutive: Study researcher Ritch Savin-Williams, a psychology professor at Cornell, said women's less-distinct preference for men may be the result of a defense mechanism that evolved to protect women from forced sexual intercourse. If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Is it pleasant enough to get you aroused ?

/Sorry
//This thread is wasted in the geek tab

It probably should. Apparently I should be in a state of constant arousal to protect my vagina on the off chance some guy gets that rapey vibe.

[img109.imageshack.us image 483x363]


No... you should always carry a katar(Or the like) and use it to punch the rapey animals in the face and junk until they stop.
 
2012-08-04 04:22:32 PM  
If you can even remotely imagine some way that sex with a same-sex partner could possibly be fun, even if you would never go there for real, you're bisexual to that degree.

/Guess what - you're normal.

//I've boinked many a female, doesn't mean I'm straight.
 
2012-08-04 04:29:37 PM  
I have always thought that girls that claim sex with women is absolutely gross or disgusting and they are 100% into guys were actually butch lesbians deep down, because, why are they so into guys?
 
2012-08-04 04:35:26 PM  

studebaker hoch: We're all bisexual to some degree.


Yup. Its a scale. Even in the gay community (I'm not, but live in a very gay friendly city and a good percentage of my friends are)... there's still a scale. I know lesbians that are very open about discussing their sexuality, and indeed they've been attracted to men from time to time. Though its much more rare than women. I don't care for the label "bi-sexual" because I remember when that became trendy.
 
2012-08-04 04:36:12 PM  
www.comedycouch.com
 
2012-08-04 04:38:05 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Scientists refer to the period where females produce more sex hormones than males as "cougar country".
 
2012-08-04 04:41:38 PM  

bobbette: TheBigJerk: Also I suspect women are more likely to be bisexual because evolutionarily speaking, gay sex was/is likely to get you murdered while lesbian sex was/is likely to get you a mate.

I'm sure there's evidence to back up this utterly preposterous evolutionary claim, right?


Pretty much agree with you here. I don't think its been proven that homosexuality (or any sexuality on the scale from straight --- bi --- homosexual) to be genetic at all. And genetics is all that is carried through evolution.

Now, we do have cultural evolution. For example, our American society initially evolved to condone homosexuality. But I don't think that could affect real evolution. It just made gays more closeted.

Now its becoming more accepted. So, yeah, more gays out of the closet. But are there going to be more actual gays over 100, 200 years? No way.
 
2012-08-04 04:43:11 PM  
downstairs

Yup. Its a scale. Even in the gay community (I'm not, but live in a very gay friendly city and a good percentage of my friends are)... there's still a scale.

Yes, absolutely. Even though most gays would never consider acting it out, they can all see certain females and think "you know...in another life..."
 
2012-08-04 05:30:37 PM  

bobbette: comslave: Commence with the photos.

Fark is not your personal erotica site.

For your personal erotica site I'd suggest starting here. NSFW, extremely sexy.


Oh great, now I'm dinosexual. Thanks a lot.

I have no idea how I'm going to explain to the museum staff what I'm about to do, but I just hope for their sake that the reconstructions are anatomically correct.
 
2012-08-04 05:42:56 PM  
"dinosexual"

Oh god now I'm having flashbacks to that aweful jurassic park fanfic where the dude was having sex with a raptor and Mulddon was masturbating to it.

Velocigina is not a word damn it! Not a word....
 
2012-08-04 05:43:44 PM  
Er Muldoon.

/derp
 
2012-08-04 05:53:26 PM  

HighZoolander: bobbette: comslave: Commence with the photos.

Fark is not your personal erotica site.

For your personal erotica site I'd suggest starting here. NSFW, extremely sexy.

Oh great, now I'm dinosexual. Thanks a lot.

I have no idea how I'm going to explain to the museum staff what I'm about to do, but I just hope for their sake that the reconstructions are anatomically correct.


Those dinosaurs are dead, you sick pervert!
 
2012-08-04 05:56:19 PM  

miss diminutive: LittleMissStubborn: Women's sexuality is much more fluid than men's.
The ladies do seem to be more prone to bisexual experimentation than the fellows do.
I mean, (ladies:) who here hasn't fooled around with a girlfriend just to see what it would be like?

It happens. I do think a lot of women drop the bi label once they settle down though.

Which raises an important question. How many "experiments" does it take with the same sex before a woman is considered bisexual?

I know there's a double standard there as well. it seems like if a guy fools around with another man he's labelled gay, at least by other men.


It's a matter of self-identification. And it's not really a double standard that men are considered gay after some experimentation and women are not. It's a combination of homophobia and misogyny: only sex with a dude "counts" in either scenario. It plays out differently with different genders, but the same effect is at work.
 
2012-08-04 06:05:05 PM  

bobbette: HighZoolander: bobbette: comslave: Commence with the photos.

Fark is not your personal erotica site.

For your personal erotica site I'd suggest starting here. NSFW, extremely sexy.

Oh great, now I'm dinosexual. Thanks a lot.

I have no idea how I'm going to explain to the museum staff what I'm about to do, but I just hope for their sake that the reconstructions are anatomically correct.

Those dinosaurs are dead, you sick pervert!


With a little electric current, they'll flop lifelike enough.

/don't ask how I know that
//stop judging me!
 
2012-08-04 06:25:13 PM  

studebaker hoch: We're all bisexual to some degree.


if you masturbate...you're bisexual.

/ouch what have i done
 
2012-08-04 06:28:36 PM  

downstairs: www.comedycouch.com


"Me and 5 friends went tubing down the Colorado for 10 hours, even had coolers with their own inner tubes... not one of us had to pee the entire time."

/"looked out the window last winter at the thermometer on our porch; the temperature was 0°F. The wife asks "what's the temperature outside?" I said "there isn't one..."
 
2012-08-04 06:56:16 PM  

miss diminutive:
It probably should. Apparently I should be in a state of constant arousal to protect my vagina on the off chance some guy gets that rapey vibe.

Work, work, work.
 
2012-08-04 07:25:12 PM  

bobbette: I wish all women were bi since I'm actually bi. That would be awesome. But it's not the case.


As a pansexual male, I wish everyone was pansexual. Everyone should be willing to fark everyone. Rape wouldn't exist!
 
2012-08-04 07:45:54 PM  
weclock
As a pansexual male, I wish everyone was pansexual. Everyone should be willing to fark everyone. Rape wouldn't exist!

But are you a frying pansexual? Appliances need lovin' too.
 
2012-08-04 07:59:02 PM  

bobbette: comslave: Commence with the photos.

Fark is not your personal erotica site.

For your personal erotica site I'd suggest starting here. NSFW, extremely sexy.


I'm pretty sure this is factually incorrect.
 
2012-08-04 11:10:23 PM  
...and we have "velocigina" as the Fark word of the day.
 
2012-08-05 12:08:17 AM  
Anyone looking for pr0n try tubegalore.com
 
2012-08-05 07:58:37 AM  

miss diminutive: dragonchild: miss diminutive: If a woman can become aroused with any sort of sexual simulation, the lubrication that results can protect her from injuries.

Well isn't that a pleasant thought.

Not the first I've heard of it. Women have been known to become physically aroused and even orgasm when being violently raped. From an evolution perspective, it's better than hemorrhaging to death.

It makes the emotional fallout a million times worse, though. Confusion, guilt, suicidal depression and a crisis of self-worth. In way too many cases they convince themselves they weren't even raped because they "enjoyed" it, and most guys are happy to accept that explanation. And if they're hyper-religious with a couple of tone-dead prudes for parents? Make the trauma a billion times worse. What with how woefully inadequate our mental health support system is, odds are very slim the victim gets some semblance of a normal life back.

I do know one friend who was raped and experienced this defense mechanism. Luckily she's a smart girl (areligious too) and knew about it beforehand. That didn't make the victimization any easier, but she was spared the confusion and much of the trauma.

Honestly, that's the first time I've ever heard of it although it really does make sense from the perspective you mentioned. I could definitely see that kind of physical response being a complete mindfark for those women who didn't know.


I read the story of a woman who experienced her first orgasms while being raped by several men. Her husband divorced her because of this reason. She *came to realize that constant genital friction would cause orgasm regardless of willingness. Sad story.
 
2012-08-05 08:33:51 AM  

downstairs: Pretty much agree with you here. I don't think its been proven that homosexuality (or any sexuality on the scale from straight --- bi --- homosexual) to be genetic at all. And genetics is all that is carried through evolution.


I agree; I figure that genetics influence the odds of an individual being gay, but I think hormones and even random chance play a big factor(and perhaps infanthood).

Heck, there's studies that show that the more sons a woman has the more likely her next son will be gay. Not daughters, sons.
 
2012-08-05 10:06:43 AM  
lolzombie.com
 
2012-08-06 11:53:33 AM  

dragonchild: Some women have been known to become very promiscuous after a sexual assault. This has often been attributed to a simple crisis of self-worth, but -- and I admit I'm speculating here because data is sketchy to nonexistent -- I think if they had the "defensive arousal" response, becoming a slut is often the only way they can make sense of what happened. "I got horny while being raped, well this must be who I am, then."


I have seen this too, but I attribute it more to gain control over a very intimate aspect of their very personal live that they completely lost control of for a moment.
 
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