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(Snopes)   The Obama administration files lawsuit in Ohio to strike down a law that restricts early voting rights for non-military Ohioans. So, naturally, an e-rumor pops up saying Obama wants to end early voting for Ohio military   (snopes.com) divider line 187
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2012-08-04 06:00:21 AM
Lies, rumor and innuendo are all the GOP have left to fight Obama.
 
2012-08-04 08:12:17 AM
But he's still a communist socialist fascist Kenyan usurper Muslim terrorist "The One" with delusions of godhood that eats spicy mustard on a cheeseburger, and he tells insulting jokes. I notice Snopes didn't deny any of that.
 
2012-08-04 09:04:31 AM
Oh for f*ck's sake...
 
2012-08-04 09:04:43 AM
Bearing False Witness.. against the Ten Commandments, but also a way of life for Republicans.
 
2012-08-04 09:09:09 AM
FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD ALL REPUBLICANS ARE THIS STUPID!!!
 
2012-08-04 09:12:31 AM
Sure. Dollars to donuts the bill was originally sold as a way to "protect the votes of our servicemen and women", so naturally, striking down the law means striking down that protection.
 
2012-08-04 09:12:57 AM
That's the lie FN was going with yesterday.
 
2012-08-04 09:13:30 AM
Sounds like an attempt by the GOP tp disenfranchise non-military voters.
 
2012-08-04 09:17:48 AM
Still waiting on the FEMA camps. Is there some sort of fund to which I can contribute to get those rolling? Like a kickstarter or something?
 
2012-08-04 09:19:51 AM
Got the email this morning from my RWNJ mom. I clicked reply all and sent this:

Original Law: Everyone can vote early.

New law: Only military and citizens overseas can vote early.

The campaign is trying to get the original law back.


Of course, I got a bunch of emails telling me that the troops deserve the right to vote early and that I am un-American for supporting the Obama campaign.
 
2012-08-04 09:21:36 AM

MmmmBacon: Lies, rumor and innuendo are all the GOP have left to fight Obama.


Innuendo? What's that, some kind of Italian suppository?
 
2012-08-04 09:22:31 AM

MisterLoki: Still waiting on the FEMA camps. Is there some sort of fund to which I can contribute to get those rolling? Like a kickstarter or something?


I ask about them every time I submit a name to the Death Panel. Never get an answer. Thanks, Obama!
 
2012-08-04 09:23:04 AM
Military or not, it's imperative they keep teh gheys out of the voting booths.
 
2012-08-04 09:23:29 AM
I facedesked hard when this popped up on Facebook. I said "surely Obama isn't that stupid"......thirty second (literally) of googling later, I had the truth.......goddammitsomuch..... Maybe I can sue the tea party for damages?
 
2012-08-04 09:25:03 AM
The Military mostly vote Republican so don't do them any favors.


"Members of the U.S. Armed Forces risk their lives to keep this nation safe and defend the fundamental constitutional right to vote," the military groups said in in their request to intervene in the case.

'Special Consideration'
"The Obama campaign's and Democratic National Committee's argument that it is arbitrary and unconstitutional to afford special consideration, flexibility, and accommodations to military voters to make it easier for them to vote in person is not only offensive, but flatly wrong as a matter of law," the groups said.
 
2012-08-04 09:29:16 AM

Alphax: Bearing False Witness.. against the Ten Commandments, but also a way of life for Republicans.


That's why one should be very careful before voting GOP..
There a few sane ones....a few.
/trying to be nice
 
2012-08-04 09:31:36 AM

Skarekrough: Military or not, it's imperative they keep teh gheys out of the voting booths.


And remember - Democrates vote WEDNESDAY!
 
2012-08-04 09:32:42 AM

smitty04: The Military mostly vote Republican so don't do them any favors.


"Members of the U.S. Armed Forces risk their lives to keep this nation safe and defend the fundamental constitutional right to vote," the military groups said in in their request to intervene in the case.

'Special Consideration'
"The Obama campaign's and Democratic National Committee's argument that it is arbitrary and unconstitutional to afford special consideration, flexibility, and accommodations to military voters to make it easier for them to vote in person is not only offensive, but flatly wrong as a matter of law," the groups said.


From TFA:

Contrary to what has been reported about this issue by a number of sources, however, the plaintiffs do not seek to "restrict military voting" in Ohio; they are asking the court to extend the early voting deadline for non-military voters to match that of military voters:
 
2012-08-04 09:32:44 AM

smitty04: The Military mostly vote Republican so don't do them any favors.


As a lifelong Democrat I don't really care. I WANT a fair election. I WANT the majority to win. I understand that we NEED the back and forth, the ebb and flow, that's what keeps us in check.

This may be unpopular among strategists but I think it's the manner in which most Americans want things to work.
 
2012-08-04 09:34:26 AM
There's more to the story. It gets worse.

In Ohio election law there is a provision allowing county-level control of early-access voting station hours. The county boards have two Democrats and two Republicans on each board, but any tie is broken by a vote from the Secretary of State in Ohio, who is currently a Republican. What's happening now is that the boards are meeting to vote on what hours the early-voting polling stations will be open. In several of the large cities, early voting stations will be open from 9AM to 5PM, when most people are working. In suburban counties the boards are voting to keep hours open later than normal business hours, weekends, and even Sundays.

So, not every citizen in Ohio is going to have equal access to early-voting opportunities, and the large cities in which there is a higher percentage of blue-collar, poor and/or minority voters, all of whom tend to vote more for Democratic candidates, are having their hours restricted, while the suburban counties with a history of voting for Republicans are extending their open hours for polling stations. The weekend before the national election sees a lot of early-voting efforts, including transportation for the elderly and transportation efforts centered around Sunday services; it's these last three days which Ohio Republicans are trying to hold open for military members, and close to everyone else. And recent history holds that military servicemembers tend to vote Republican.

It's voter selection in favor of one party. Anyone with a conscience should tell these Con jokers to piss up a rope. The Cons, of course, don't have a problem with it, seeing as how they're doing it in plain sight.

Link Here for a writeup of this. Same info as above, with a few counties called out for further research. I wrote it up from earlier reading; I didn't mean to re-write as much as I did.
 
2012-08-04 09:38:19 AM
The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down. A judge can't rewrite a law.
 
2012-08-04 09:38:31 AM
It's just like gay marriage. If you let them get married, then you diminish the importance of everyone else.
 
2012-08-04 09:38:53 AM
On top of all this, as a resident of Ohio, I've been bombarded with a new political ad from some conservative group trying to get enough signatures to have Obama removed from the Ohio state ballots. The commercial goes on and on about "how he has a Connecticut Social Security number and nobody has ever seen his real birth certificate" and all of that Birther rubbish. I wished they'd picked a better voice over guy, because he has tons of information to get out in 30 seconds and it's basically all shouting.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2012 GOP!
 
2012-08-04 09:39:06 AM

badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down. A judge can't rewrite a law.


From TFA:

Contrary to what has been reported about this issue by a number of sources, however, the plaintiffs do not seek to "restrict military voting" in Ohio; they are asking the court to extend the early voting deadline for non-military voters to match that of military voters:
 
2012-08-04 09:40:40 AM

Captain_Sunshine: There's more to the story. It gets worse.


I have no idea why they are making it so hard. In 2004, Ohio limited the number of voting machines in highly Democratic areas. While some people did wait 10 hours in line to vote, many others had a job to go to and could not vote.

That was a good plan and no one cared 48 hours after the election.
 
2012-08-04 09:41:31 AM

badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down.


you're either a liar or just ignorant. which is it?
 
2012-08-04 09:41:47 AM

Kurmudgeon: Alphax: Bearing False Witness.. against the Ten Commandments, but also a way of life for Republicans.

That's why one should be very careful before voting GOP..
There a few sane ones....a few.
/trying to be nice


There are plenty of sane Republicans.

But they're all currently being labeled as RINOs and told to go be liberal somewhere else.
 
2012-08-04 09:41:53 AM

badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down.


Obama wants the modification to the law repealed. The modification itself could be ruled unconstitutional without finding the whole law unconstitutional.

A judge can't rewrite a law.

Actually, they can. They can do pretty much anything they want, so long as the judges higher up the hierarchy agree with them.
 
2012-08-04 09:44:38 AM

FlashHarry: badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down.

you're either a liar or just ignorant. which is it?



Can't it be both?
 
2012-08-04 09:46:55 AM

AngryTeacher: I have no idea why they are making it so hard. In 2004, Ohio limited the number of voting machines in highly Democratic areas. While some people did wait 10 hours in line to vote, many others had a job to go to and could not vote.


I think there was legislation passed to address that problem after the 2004 election. The county board bits might be part of that law, or this new wrinkle might have been passed after the AstroTea swamp showed up in 2010.

A new wrinkle seems to attract attention too late, most of the time. Can't put your bullet through the same hole twice, so make a new hole somewhere else. Just as damaging, really.
 
2012-08-04 09:48:10 AM

badhatharry: Obama wants the law struck down.


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2012-08-04 09:48:32 AM

AngryTeacher: Got the email this morning from my RWNJ mom. I clicked reply all and sent this:

Original Law: Everyone can vote early.

New law: Only military and citizens overseas can vote early.

The campaign is trying to get the original law back.

Of course, I got a bunch of emails telling me that the troops deserve the right to vote early and that I am un-American for supporting the Obama campaign.


I don't see how you can make it simpler than that. I'm going to steal it for when I get the email from my Dad. Saves time, since he's not going to pay attention anyway.
 
2012-08-04 09:49:45 AM
I should have said judges aren't supposed to rewrite laws. We don't even need legislatures anymore.
 
2012-08-04 09:50:04 AM

Dog Welder: I've been bombarded with a new political ad from some conservative group trying to get enough signatures to have Obama removed from the Ohio state ballots.


Here's the ad: Link
 
2012-08-04 09:50:36 AM

badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down. A judge can't rewrite a law.


The law is an additional law that restricts the rights of the public.

Why are you in favor of big government?
 
2012-08-04 09:51:46 AM

sdd2000: Can't it be both?


You would think after a decade on this site he'd stop being a nitwit, but nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
2012-08-04 09:52:33 AM
Since I'm offshore right now, the only news channel they have on the TVs here is Fox News. When they reported this story, I didn't really question it (silly me), though it seemed like a bad PR move by the Obama administration to try to limit voting by members of the military. Now that I read what actually happened, it makes more sense but it's not at all what Faux News was reporting, even on their "straight news" segments.
 
2012-08-04 09:53:03 AM

St_Francis_P: smitty04: The Military mostly vote Republican so don't do them any favors.


"Members of the U.S. Armed Forces risk their lives to keep this nation safe and defend the fundamental constitutional right to vote," the military groups said in in their request to intervene in the case.

'Special Consideration'
"The Obama campaign's and Democratic National Committee's argument that it is arbitrary and unconstitutional to afford special consideration, flexibility, and accommodations to military voters to make it easier for them to vote in person is not only offensive, but flatly wrong as a matter of law," the groups said.

From TFA:

Contrary to what has been reported about this issue by a number of sources, however, the plaintiffs do not seek to "restrict military voting" in Ohio; they are asking the court to extend the early voting deadline for non-military voters to match that of military voters:


Also, I question the assumption that the military mostly votes Republican. As a vet, I'd say 1) the military mostly doesn't vote and 2) it's a mixed group. The lack of jobs and the college assistance money draws more than you'd think.
 
2012-08-04 09:53:12 AM
The GOP knows once the story is out proof or fact won't matter. The timid sheep that make up their party can never be convinced there isn't something scary going on. Because they're the panty-waist party. Farking biatches.
 
2012-08-04 09:53:15 AM
Just making sure I understand this. The repubs want in person early military votes to be counted up until Monday, while any others should only be counted up until Friday, because its a biatch getting back to vote early in person from over seas instead of sending in an absentee ballot? I'm all for making it easy for folks to vote, but I don't even understand the thought process behind this at all. Why the hell would you allow extra time for over seas folks to vote in person? I guess you could have a very very small amount of people being deployed exactly in that 3 day time period.

Seriously though screw all these lets game the system to make it so our opponents can't vote people, no matter which side you are on.
 
2012-08-04 09:54:34 AM

badhatharry: I should have said judges aren't supposed to rewrite laws. We don't even need legislatures anymore.


In these situations, the courts will often stay the implementation and/or invalidation of the law to give the legislature an opportunity to rewrite it to remedy with whatever constitutional defect exists. If the legislature decides that they would rather let it fail than fix the defect, well, that's their goddamn fault.
 
2012-08-04 09:54:41 AM

bulldg4life: badhatharry: The law is for early voting for the military. Obama wants the law struck down. A judge can't rewrite a law.

The law is an additional law that restricts the rights of the public.

Why are you in favor of big government?


I am in favor of judges throwing out unconstitutional laws. I'm not in favor of judges rewriting legislation to their liking.
 
2012-08-04 09:54:57 AM

AngryTeacher: Captain_Sunshine: There's more to the story. It gets worse.

I have no idea why they are making it so hard. In 2004, Ohio limited the number of voting machines in highly Democratic areas. While some people did wait 10 hours in line to vote, many others had a job to go to and could not vote.

That was a good plan and no one cared 48 hours after the election.


I remember, but I have no legal standing to do anything about it because I don't live there...
 
2012-08-04 09:55:14 AM
It is more difficult for serving military personel to vote given their circumstances. The process has been improved, but the idea is that military votes get a few extra days in order to have time to get ballots to them overseas in remote areas and returned.

The law and the suit do nothing to help or hinder civilian voting. Obama is taking out a lawsuit to make early voting more difficult for the military. It is pretty brazen.
 
2012-08-04 09:56:14 AM

LargeCanine: It is more difficult for serving military personel to vote given their circumstances. The process has been improved, but the idea is that military votes get a few extra days in order to have time to get ballots to them overseas in remote areas and returned.

The law and the suit do nothing to help or hinder civilian voting. Obama is taking out a lawsuit to make early voting more difficult for the military. It is pretty brazen.


From TFA:

Contrary to what has been reported about this issue by a number of sources, however, the plaintiffs do not seek to "restrict military voting" in Ohio; they are asking the court to extend the early voting deadline for non-military voters to match that of military voters:
 
2012-08-04 09:57:29 AM

badhatharry: I am in favor of judges throwing out unconstitutional laws.


So a law that unfairly gives preferential treatment in regards to voting ability to a specific class of citizens or restricts the voting abilities of other qualified citizens on an arbitrary measure would not fit that description?

Instead, you're going to lie about the actual point of the bill and then go off on some tangent about judges rewriting laws?
 
2012-08-04 09:57:44 AM
Naturally. its what GOP'ers do.
 
2012-08-04 09:57:59 AM

LargeCanine: It is more difficult for serving military personel to vote given their circumstances. The process has been improved, but the idea is that military votes get a few extra days in order to have time to get ballots to them overseas in remote areas and returned.

The law and the suit do nothing to help or hinder civilian voting. Obama is taking out a lawsuit to make early voting more difficult for the military. It is pretty brazen.


"Bio:
South Park Republican"

These are the three dumbest words ever written in succession.
 
2012-08-04 10:00:20 AM
Red State Georgia had the opposite problem.

Best I can tell, the RWNJ secretary of state said the Bush Administration told them they didn't have to wait for the military votes to come in and the Obama Justice Department was just trying to make a political issue of it.
 
2012-08-04 10:01:48 AM

LargeCanine: It is more difficult for serving military personel to vote given their circumstances. The process has been improved, but the idea is that military votes get a few extra days in order to have time to get ballots to them overseas in remote areas and returned.

The law and the suit do nothing to help or hinder civilian voting. Obama is taking out a lawsuit to make early voting more difficult for the military. It is pretty brazen.


I know you are trolling, but this isn't even about mail in absentee ballots, it is only about in person office hours. Not too surprising though. In 04 the secretary of state actually distributed absentee ballots to colleges and other places highly likely to have absentee voters leaning D. Then they refused to count them because THEY printed them on the wrong stock thickness.
 
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