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2012-08-03 05:31:25 PM
3. Timothy Dalton

You trolling
 
2012-08-03 05:40:30 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: 3. Timothy Dalton

You trolling



The thing is, I'm okay with this ranking. I thought Dalton was a solid Bond and got a raw deal. He got criticized for the same things that Daniel Craig is praised for (not to take anything away from Craig, naturally).

Roger Moore for the second overall Bond, though, is not what I had in mind.
 
2012-08-03 05:40:41 PM
If you ever read the books, Dalton was actually closer. That doesn't mean those movies were better or that his acting was superior.... just that his portrayal and the script writing was more Bond than other Bonds.
 
2012-08-03 06:17:19 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Roger Moore for the second overall Bond, though, is not what I had in mind.


Roger Moore is worse than Lazenby, in my estimation. That may have had more to do with the insane slapstickery and bad wisecracking in many of his movies, which he can't control, but he's the one who said the words, so ultimately it's his character who gets sullied.

I actually liked Brosnan, but his movies suffer from some of the same problems as Moore's, though to a leser extent. And I'm sorry, but Daniel Craig's movies are about some Michael Bay action hero who happens to be named James Bond, not the same character that was played by the preceding five actors. He's a great actor and I want to have Layer Cake's babies, but his movies just don't grab me.

I'd say:

1. Connery
2. Brosnan, Dalton (tie)
4. Craig, Lazenby (tie)
6. Moore
 
2012-08-03 06:33:30 PM
1. Connery.
2. Moore
3. Craig
4. Brosnan
5. Dalton
6. Lazenby

there are no ties, ties are for wimps
 
2012-08-03 06:34:44 PM
1. Connery.

Infinity: anyone else who tries to matter in the role
 
2012-08-03 06:36:47 PM

kronicfeld: Roger Moore is worse than Lazenby, in my estimation. That may have had more to do with the insane slapstickery and bad wisecracking in many of his movies, which he can't control, but he's the one who said the words, so ultimately it's his character who gets sullied.


Pretty much that, more or less.

They tried to nullify the hokier, jokier elements of Moore's Bond by making him something of a jerkass (like in parts of The Man with the Golden Gun), but it doesn't quite even out.

I think Lazenby gets the rawest of deals for having done only one movie, and this had nothing to do with his acting abilities (just the misfortune of having a really bad agent). The thing is, On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the best of the series, and it's not as if Lazenby had *no* part in making that happen. The conclusion of OHMSS was particularly potent, and it would be interesting to see the other Bonds try to carry the emotionality of those final moments.



kronicfeld: I actually liked Brosnan, but his movies suffer from some of the same problems as Moore's, though to a leser extent.


Brosnan's good as Bond, it's just that his films could get a tad ridiculous, even for this franchise. Die Another Day is borderline unwatchable. They got *so* many things wrong there, and you felt bad that it had to be Brosnan's swan song.



kronicfeld: And I'm sorry, but Daniel Craig's movies are about some Michael Bay action hero who happens to be named James Bond, not the same character that was played by the preceding five actors. He's a great actor and I want to have Layer Cake's babies, but his movies just don't grab me.


I really enjoyed Casino Royale, but Quantum of Solace tried a bit too hard to be something in a Jason Bourne-ish vein. So... we're talking about 50/50.

Craig might move up in the rankings, depending on how good his portrayal in Skyfall is. I hope it leans more towards Bond and away from Bourne.


kronicfeld: I'd say:

1. Connery
2. Brosnan, Dalton (tie)
4. Craig, Lazenby (tie)
6. Moore




This could change on any given day you ask me, but if I *had* to rank them right now, I'd go...

1. Connery
2. Dalton
3. Brosnan (edged out by Dalton by the slightest of margins)
4. Craig
5. Lazenby
6. Moore
 
2012-08-03 06:43:12 PM
Oh, and just because I need to say it in Bond discussions: QoS is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
 
2012-08-03 06:45:16 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Craig might move up in the rankings, depending on how good his portrayal in Skyfall is.


I hope he's working on his dragon shouts. He's a perfect Nord, but if he can't FUS RO DAH then that will totally break the illusion for me.
 
2012-08-03 06:49:42 PM

RobertBruce: Oh, and just because I need to say it in Bond discussions: QoS is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.


There was a time when I thought, "Quantum of Solace has to be the worst Bond film."

Then I sat down and forced myself to watch Die Another Day again.

Quantum of Solace has its moments, however few and far between they may be.

Die Another Day seemed like it made a conscious and dedicated effort to get as many things wrong about the film series as possible. You almost get the impression that the director (who went on to direct xXx: State of the Union, incidentally) never sat down and watched a Bond film in his life.

I'd have to go through the lesser Moore (not a pun, I swear) films like Moonraker to determine if QoS is the second worst in the series. As it stands, QoS is pretty far down. Among other things, STOP SHAKING THE CAMERA AND MAKING JUMP CUTS. Heaven forbid someone tries to follow your action sequences.
 
2012-08-03 06:50:25 PM

kronicfeld: I hope he's working on his dragon shouts. He's a perfect Nord, but if he can't FUS RO DAH then that will totally break the illusion for me.


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2012-08-03 06:54:37 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I'd have to go through the lesser Moore (not a pun, I swear) films like Moonraker to determine if QoS is the second worst in the series. As it stands, QoS is pretty far down. Among other things, STOP SHAKING THE CAMERA AND MAKING JUMP CUTS. Heaven forbid someone tries to follow your action sequences.


A View to a Kill was unwatchable. Close call.
 
2012-08-03 06:56:41 PM

kronicfeld: A View to a Kill was unwatchable. Close call.


Indeed.

A View to a Kill had a wrinkly James Bond. That does not compute.
 
2012-08-03 07:16:38 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: RobertBruce: Oh, and just because I need to say it in Bond discussions: QoS is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

There was a time when I thought, "Quantum of Solace has to be the worst Bond film."

Then I sat down and forced myself to watch Die Another Day again.

Quantum of Solace has its moments, however few and far between they may be.

Die Another Day seemed like it made a conscious and dedicated effort to get as many things wrong about the film series as possible. You almost get the impression that the director (who went on to direct xXx: State of the Union, incidentally) never sat down and watched a Bond film in his life.

I'd have to go through the lesser Moore (not a pun, I swear) films like Moonraker to determine if QoS is the second worst in the series. As it stands, QoS is pretty far down. Among other things, STOP SHAKING THE CAMERA AND MAKING JUMP CUTS. Heaven forbid someone tries to follow your action sequences.


I agree with pretty much everything here. I fell asleep TWICE while watching QoS (at home, not in theatre...but still) and Die Another Day was just ludicrously awful. A remote-controlled invisible car with shotguns in the hood? Why not just send the car on the missions?

My dad is a huge Bond fan and I grew up watching the Connery and Moore films with him. I prefer Connery by a landslide, simply because I feel he was able to convey the potent lethality and the suave nature of the character (although I've never read any of the books, so I don't know how "accurate" that portrayal is). Moore, on the other hand, seemed almost like a clown. Maybe that had more to do with his movies than the actor, but I just could never take him seriously.

Moore also stuck with the character for too long. According to wiki he was 57 by the time View To A Kill was made, and it showed.
 
2012-08-03 07:29:49 PM

miss diminutive: I agree with pretty much everything here. I fell asleep TWICE while watching QoS (at home, not in theatre...but still) and Die Another Day was just ludicrously awful. A remote-controlled invisible car with shotguns in the hood? Why not just send the car on the missions?


On top of all that, the special effects are so... Mario Paint-ish. It takes bad special effects to forcibly remove you from the movie's action, and this does just that.

And I don't need to tell you the ridiculousness of driving an invisible car in the snow. Your car may be invisible, yes, but your tire tracks? Not so much.


miss diminutive: My dad is a huge Bond fan and I grew up watching the Connery and Moore films with him. I prefer Connery by a landslide, simply because I feel he was able to convey the potent lethality and the suave nature of the character (although I've never read any of the books, so I don't know how "accurate" that portrayal is). Moore, on the other hand, seemed almost like a clown. Maybe that had more to do with his movies than the actor, but I just could never take him seriously.


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Heh, Moore was a literal clown in his appearance in Octopussy!

Connery, though, was effortlessly and naturally cool. He could be callous and tough as nails, but still have a non-in-your-face sense of sly humor.


miss diminutive: Moore also stuck with the character for too long. According to wiki he was 57 by the time View To A Kill was made, and it showed.


Yeah, Octopussy REALLY should've been his last go-round as Bond.
 
2012-08-03 07:37:42 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Connery, though, was effortlessly and naturally cool. He could be callous and tough as nails, but still have a non-in-your-face sense of sly humor.


His movies weren't generic action flicks. They were espionage movies. Callousness, sly humor, etc were part and parcel of his mission. Look at From Russia With Love; it wasn't a movie about a ticking time bomb, but about acquiring a piece of technology. And the climax wasn't a ninja fight on top of a crane on the top of a skyscraper that the good guy wins because of [DEUS EX MACHINA], it was a chess game in a train car where the bad guy had the upper hand the entire time.
 
2012-08-03 07:49:29 PM

kronicfeld: His movies weren't generic action flicks. They were espionage movies. Callousness, sly humor, etc were part and parcel of his mission. Look at From Russia With Love; it wasn't a movie about a ticking time bomb, but about acquiring a piece of technology. And the climax wasn't a ninja fight on top of a crane on the top of a skyscraper that the good guy wins because of [DEUS EX MACHINA], it was a chess game in a train car where the bad guy had the upper hand the entire time.



Mmhmm. Word to all of that.

And that fight sequence was wonderfully and believably brutal. Robert Shaw made for one of the best villains of the series.
 
2012-08-03 07:56:06 PM

kronicfeld: His movies weren't generic action flicks. They were espionage movies. Callousness, sly humor, etc were part and parcel of his mission. Look at From Russia With Love; it wasn't a movie about a ticking time bomb, but about acquiring a piece of technology. And the climax wasn't a ninja fight on top of a crane on the top of a skyscraper that the good guy wins because of [DEUS EX MACHINA], it was a chess game in a train car where the bad guy had the upper hand the entire time.


You know what else made those movies?

The pacing. You look at the Connery films, and you see that they took their time going where they needed to go, and it worked. The emphasis wasn't too heavy on spectacle. It wasn't about a slam-bang-dash ADD-riddled affair.

To beat the glue out of a dead horse, Die Another Day keeps throwing things at the viewer as if to say, "We don't trust you to not get bored."
 
2012-08-03 08:00:49 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Die Another Day


Ok this is true. It seemed like a parody.
 
2012-08-03 08:12:37 PM

RobertBruce: Ok this is true. It seemed like a parody.


When you saw the CGI bullet coming through the gun barrel at the beginning, you knew the whole thing was in trouble.
 
2012-08-03 09:05:20 PM
Pierce Brosnan was the best after Connery. He had the cool, suave calculating thing down and he was a cold blooded killer when he had to be. It just sucked that his last couple movies were lame.
 
2012-08-03 09:11:06 PM

Mugato: Pierce Brosnan was the best after Connery. He had the cool, suave calculating thing down and he was a cold blooded killer when he had to be. It just sucked that his last couple movies were lame.


The World is Not Enough had some redeeming qualities.

I really dug the reappearance of Robbie Coltrane as Valentin.

And of course, there's Q's final scene, one of the best farewell scenes in a movie (even if ol' Desmond hadn't intended that to be his last Bond movie).
 
2012-08-03 09:11:23 PM
Lets talk title sequences for a minute. They never were anything special until GoldenEye.And the opening songs were pretty cool until Madonna got involved.
 
2012-08-03 09:14:47 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: Pierce Brosnan was the best after Connery. He had the cool, suave calculating thing down and he was a cold blooded killer when he had to be. It just sucked that his last couple movies were lame.

The World is Not Enough had some redeeming qualities.

I really dug the reappearance of Robbie Coltrane as Valentin.

And of course, there's Q's final scene, one of the best farewell scenes in a movie (even if ol' Desmond hadn't intended that to be his last Bond movie).


I actually liked The World is Not Enough a lot. Yeah, there was a nuclear weapons scientist named Christmas Jones played by Denise Richards but it's a farking James Bond movie. I think it was a solid Bond film. Not as good as GoldenEye but better than any of the Roger Moore efforts.
 
2012-08-03 09:15:10 PM

Mugato: Lets talk title sequences for a minute. They never were anything special until GoldenEye.And the opening songs were pretty cool until Madonna got involved.


In terms of artwork, perhaps, but I dug the opening titles of The Spy Who Loved Me, what with all the Union Jack imagery and Carly Simon's song and everything.

But anywho -

The best songs of the Brosnan era were by Tina Turner and Garbage.

Sheryl Crow's was alright, but Madonna's was absolute crap, which fit the rest of the movie.

As far as title sequences go, the one for Casino Royale was gold, as was Chris Cornell's song.

Quantum of Solace's opening sequence seemed too busy, and that Jack White/Alicia Keys duet wasn't too memorable.

Again, your mileage may undoubtedly vary.
 
2012-08-03 09:17:24 PM
They left out David Niven.

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2012-08-03 09:17:30 PM

Mugato: I actually liked The World is Not Enough a lot. Yeah, there was a nuclear weapons scientist named Christmas Jones played by Denise Richards but it's a farking James Bond movie. I think it was a solid Bond film. Not as good as GoldenEye but better than any of the Roger Moore efforts.


Denise Richards, while she works as eye candy, is the weak link here.

And I defend the use of Elektra King AND Renard as the villains. That, and Judi Dench got to do stuff as M this time around.

I mean, c'mon, TWiNE is practically Vertigo compared to Die Another Day.
 
2012-08-03 09:18:18 PM

Beerguy: cfile225.uf.daum.net


You know, I still gotta get around to seeing that one...
 
2012-08-03 09:21:41 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The best songs of the Brosnan era were by Tina Turner and Garbage.

Sheryl Crow's was alright, but Madonna's was absolute crap, which fit the rest of the movie.


Garbage's "The World is Not Enough" is my favorite Bond song. Madonna's was shiat. And yes, so was the movie. Although the beginning, with Bond spending months being tortured was kind of cool but they didn't do anything with it.
 
2012-08-03 09:24:35 PM

Mugato: Garbage's "The World is Not Enough" is my favorite Bond song.


Probably the best of the latter-day Bond themes, and one of my favorites.

I *do* love the ones for Thunderball, Goldfinger, and The Spy Who Loved Me, though. Tough to choose.


Mugato: Although the beginning, with Bond spending months being tortured was kind of cool but they didn't do anything with it.


It was a novel idea that they dropped like a hot potato.

I'm convinced that 24 lifted that wholesale for the whole "Jack Bauer gets tortured for two years and comes back to the US with no real problems" deallymabob.
 
2012-08-03 09:49:42 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I think Lazenby gets the rawest of deals for having done only one movie, and this had nothing to do with his acting abilities (just the misfortune of having a really bad agent). The thing is, On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the best of the series, and it's not as if Lazenby had *no* part in making that happen. The conclusion of OHMSS was particularly potent, and it would be interesting to see the other Bonds try to carry the emotionality of those final moments.


I have a rabid Bond-fan friend who maintains that Lazenby was the best screen Bond, period.

The thing is: there are flashes of brilliance in his performance: his disbelief holding his dead wife, his burglarizing
the office of the Swiss solicitor, his casual brutality in the fight scenes were all among the best things ever done
in any of the films.

But he also had far too many moments of wooden acting (his love scenes with Tracy in the barn comes to mind
immediately, and the whole Hilary Bray masquerade) that off set all his good moments, and that comes straight
from his inexperience as an actor. I also think that Roger Moore's 'smirking smoothie' Bond characterization is
directly inspired by Lazenby's.

But, don't be too quick to blame his management for his problem: he was by all accounts a complete egomaniac
who stopped caring after he got the part with (supposedly) a 3 picture deal. After filming was done, he refused
to do any publicity, went away on a cruise (supposedly for a year), and showed up at the premier looking as
un-Bond-like as possible with a full beard and generally unkempt. Even if he had put in a fantastic performance,
he didn't show himself to be reliable. Had he taken the time to hone his natural acting talent I do believe he
could have truly been THE definitive screen Bond, but he just wasn't up to the task.

so, FWIW, my rankings for the Bond actors are:

Connery/Craig (too close to call, though Connery has a slight edge because he was the originator)
Brosnan
Roger Moore (FOR YOUR EYES ONLY proved he could be Badass Bond)
Timothy Dalton (didn't get enough time in the role, and had horrible scripts that lost the point of Bond as a spy)
Lazenby.

I've been thinking about this with Encore's Month of Bond that just finished.
 
2012-08-03 09:51:59 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The Stealth Hippopotamus: 3. Timothy Dalton

You trolling


The thing is, I'm okay with this ranking. I thought Dalton was a solid Bond and got a raw deal. He got criticized for the same things that Daniel Craig is praised for (not to take anything away from Craig, naturally).

Roger Moore for the second overall Bond, though, is not what I had in mind.


I came to say each of these things, but in a different order.
 
2012-08-03 10:00:05 PM
Quantum of Solace was doomed because they only had half a script and the screenwriters went on strike, so they stretched it out with agonizingly long chase scenes.
Casino Royale was one of the best Bond films ever, so I'm willing to give the Craig reboot another chance.
 
2012-08-03 11:08:52 PM
View to a Kill had Walkin! As a Bond villian!! WALKIN!!

I will not allow another negative word!! So help me I will send this drill to the center of the earth and bury North America in lava!
 
2012-08-03 11:31:38 PM

Mugato: Garbage's "The World is Not Enough" is my favorite Bond song. Madonna's was shiat. And yes, so was the movie. Although the beginning, with Bond spending months being tortured was kind of cool but they didn't do anything with it.


Goldfinger, beeeeeeeotch.
 
2012-08-04 12:41:11 AM
CSB: I have the same birthday as a James Bond actor. Not so cool: Roger Moore (Oct. 14)

1. Connery
2. Brosnan
3. Craig
4. Dalton
5. Moore
6. Lazenby
 
2012-08-04 12:44:57 AM
Moore almost requires two entries: goofy over the top villain Bond (Octopussy, Moonraker, View to a Kill) and holy-crap-he-CAN-play badass Bond (Live and Let Die, Man With the Golden Gun, Spy Who Loved Me). It's the inconsistency of the stories that weaken his status. Still, my ranking:

1) Connery
2) Dalton
3) Brosnan
4) Moore
5) Craig
6) Lazenby

Brosnan and Dalton are almost a tie. Craig may move up in the standings as he matures in the role, but I'm still not sold on James Blond 'the blunt instrument'.
 
2012-08-04 12:45:10 AM
I wish Never Say Never would get the respect it deserves. I've always considered it a "legit" and "canon" Bond movie, despite the different production company.

Living Dayslights is probably one of my favourite bonds. I am hoping Skyfall will pull Daniel Craig out of the lull. I think he's a good Bond, but the movies proper have been missing something. They've been trying SOOO hard to make him "bond". Like the retconning of the Goldeneye Video Game: Pierce out, Craig in. It seems so.... weird. The over all plot of Bloodstone was decent for a light-Bond story. I am kinda glad that the other media is being considered now to help shape the new bond mythos... but dang... Goldeneye Reloaded? Really?

Really?
 
2012-08-04 12:45:19 AM
Say what you will about Moore being a ridiculous Bond, For Your Eyes only was a great film.
 
2012-08-04 12:47:58 AM
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Bond was pussy compared to Dr. Neil Connery....

/Let's pants her subconscious!
 
2012-08-04 12:52:42 AM
Nor should he.
 
2012-08-04 12:59:25 AM
1. Connery.
2. Brosnan
3. Moore
4. Craig
5. Dalton
6. Lazenby
 
2012-08-04 01:01:43 AM
i.telegraph.co.uk

There can be only one
 
2012-08-04 01:02:08 AM

Stile4aly: Say what you will about Moore being a ridiculous Bond, For Your Eyes only was a great film.


This. The Man with the Golden Gun was also fairly decent also. However, we also had to deal with Octopussy and Moonraker amongst the other junk that clutter up the Bond legacy When they didn't go with too much camp, Moore made a decent Bond. However, that is not how they ended up for most of the movies.

I did like Timothy Dalton a lot. I thought he made a decent Bond and would have liked a couple of more movies out of him..

As for Daniel Craig, Casino Royale was just too darn long. It looked like it was the end of the movie and then they threw the whole Venice thing on there.

Brosnan was great in Goldeneye.
 
2012-08-04 01:02:42 AM

Stile4aly: Say what you will about Moore being a ridiculous Bond, For Your Eyes only was a great film.


My favorite Moore film was View to a Kill.

My favorite Bond film of all time is Goldeneye.
 
2012-08-04 01:04:19 AM

Beerguy: They left out David Niven.

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As they should've.
 
2012-08-04 01:05:39 AM

Montag19: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

There can be only one

 
2012-08-04 01:14:04 AM
Saying it again: for all the warranted hate Roger Moore gets as Bond, he is in what I think is the second best overall Bond film in my opinion -- For Your Eyes Only. The flick's beauty, the Greek Bond girl, and ability to mesh Moore's personality with good action scenes outshines the goofy parts like the hockey assassins.

Timothy Dalton's Bond outings were pretty damn good. License to Kill goes on a different path and might seem like it's ripping off Lethal Weapon-style films, but it's not as off course as Brosnan's Die Another Day, which takes the cake as the worst.

Sean Connery with Goldfinger is still No. 1, and my jury is still out with Craig.
 
2012-08-04 01:15:08 AM
DNRTFA,but I'm guessing Moore's ranked near the top despite being "Bond,Jester Bond".

*Sigh*


For Your Eyes Only,The Spy Who Loved Me and Live And Let Die respectively are the three Moore-era flicks that merit repeated viewings AFAIC.


Lazenby was a FAR more effective 007 than he's been given credit for. On Her Majesty's Secret Service was,despite a few corny scenes,an underrated masterpiece. There,I said it. Again.
 
2012-08-04 01:16:01 AM
Pierce Brosnan was supposed to get the Bond role after Roger Moore. However, his TV show, Remington Steele, got picked up for another season and he couldn't get out of the contract to go film the Bond movie, so the role went to Timothy Dalton. So imagine Brosnan in The Living Daylights and License to Kill instead of Dalton.

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My Bond list would probably be.
1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Moore (just because he played it so long, and I saw the films as a kid. They're super-cheesy now, especially the flying AMC Matador in The Man with the Golden Gun.)
4. Brosnan
5. Dalton
6. Lazenby
 
2012-08-04 01:17:13 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: 3. Timothy Dalton

You trolling


So much this if anyone deserved 6 its him.
 
2012-08-04 01:17:28 AM
As others have said, Dalton and Craig were closest to the book Bond, but the public had been sold for many years on Roger Moore as Bond. So people like the guy in the tuxedo wearing a girdle sipping martinis. He was all about gadgets and sight gags and not getting dirty.

He was the first bond movie I saw, then you get older, see the Connery ones, read the books. And you realize Craig and Dalton are spot on.

Kinda like Keatons Batman.
 
2012-08-04 01:19:31 AM

Apos: There,I said it. Again.


They have medication for that.
 
2012-08-04 01:21:36 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Apos: There,I said it. Again.

They have medication for that.


Your concern for my well being,though misplaced,is duly noted.
 
2012-08-04 01:24:28 AM
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2012-08-04 01:24:30 AM
1. Sean Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3-6. Who the hell cares?
 
2012-08-04 01:25:33 AM
Pussy Galore.

I know that's off-topic, but I just like saying Pussy Galore. Pussy Galore.
 
2012-08-04 01:27:50 AM

Mentat: Pussy Galore.

I know that's off-topic, but I just like saying Pussy Galore. Pussy Galore.


That would make a more interesting read -- what Bond girls were good and which ones weren't.
 
2012-08-04 01:30:09 AM

Apos: Fark Me To Tears: Apos: There,I said it. Again.

They have medication for that.

Your concern for my well being,though misplaced,is duly noted.


We just want you to feel better. Now, if you'll just go quietly with the nice gentlemen in the white coats...

/Tina Turner's Goldeneye was the best Bond theme, btw
 
2012-08-04 01:30:11 AM

Mentat: Pussy Galore.

I know that's off-topic, but I just like saying Pussy Galore. Pussy Galore.


I musht be dreaming
 
2012-08-04 01:35:57 AM
I think a more important question is who are the top Bond women?

I know some of you are gonna flame me big time for this, but I loved Michelle Yeoh
 
2012-08-04 01:37:32 AM
1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton
4. Moore
5. Brosnan
6. Lazenby

From Russia With Love is, of course, the best Bond film of them all.
 
2012-08-04 01:44:28 AM
who cares?
i think Casino Royale was the best bond film, next to goldfinger.
 
2012-08-04 01:46:52 AM
Brosnan
Connery
Dalton
Craig
Lazenby
Moore

/not trolling
 
2012-08-04 01:52:32 AM
Dalton was awesome....the haters can suck it.

/Not as awesome as Connery, though.
//Obvious statement is obvious.
 
2012-08-04 01:55:55 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: kronicfeld: A View to a Kill was unwatchable. Close call.

Indeed.

A View to a Kill had a wrinkly James Bond. That does not compute.


A popular radio host here in Portland had never seen a Bond movie before and (unfortunately) started with "View". Her reaction was like "I didn't know James Bond was supposed to be an elderly gay man?"

Oh, and this, since it tends to piss people off for some reason:


Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Dr No - 98
From Russia with Love - 97
Goldfinger - 96
Thunderball - 91
You Only Live Twice - 70

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81

Diamonds Are Forever - 67

Live and Let Die - 63
The Man with the Golden Gun - 52
The Spy Who Loved Me - 78
Moonraker - 64
For Your Eyes Only - 74
Octopussy - 47
A View to a Kill - 39

Living Daylights - 73
License to Kill - 71

Goldeneye - 80
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The World Is Not Enough - 51
Die Another Day - 59

Casino Royale - 94
Quantum of Solace - 63
 
2012-08-04 01:56:40 AM

zarberg: I think a more important question is who are the top Bond women?

I know some of you are gonna flame me big time for this, but I loved Michelle Yeoh


nah, she was a fine choice.

Others that stood out for me.

Britt Ekland
Carole Bouquet
Famke Janssen
Jane Seymour
Hale Berry
Barbara Bach
 
2012-08-04 01:57:17 AM

zarberg: I think a more important question is who are the top Bond women?

I know some of you are gonna flame me big time for this, but I loved Michelle Yeoh


She was certainly more memorable than Teri Hatcher. Not to mention prettier.

My picks:

1. Honey Ryder
2. Pussy Galore
3. Tiffany Case
4. Major "Triple X" Amasova
5. Plenty O'Toole
6. Domino
7. Dr. Holly Goodhead
8. Xena Onatopp
9. Tanya aka Rosa Klebb Protege
10. Jinx
 
2012-08-04 02:03:59 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: And of course, there's Q's final scene, one of the best farewell scenes in a movie (even if ol' Desmond hadn't intended that to be his last Bond movie).


I don't know why, but Skyfall including a new Q seems like a great idea.
 
2012-08-04 02:08:23 AM

fusillade762: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: kronicfeld: A View to a Kill was unwatchable. Close call.

Indeed.

A View to a Kill had a wrinkly James Bond. That does not compute.

A popular radio host here in Portland had never seen a Bond movie before and (unfortunately) started with "View". Her reaction was like "I didn't know James Bond was supposed to be an elderly gay man?"

Oh, and this, since it tends to piss people off for some reason:


Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Dr No - 98
From Russia with Love - 97
Goldfinger - 96
Thunderball - 91
You Only Live Twice - 70

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81

Diamonds Are Forever - 67

Live and Let Die - 63
The Man with the Golden Gun - 52
The Spy Who Loved Me - 78
Moonraker - 64
For Your Eyes Only - 74
Octopussy - 47
A View to a Kill - 39

Living Daylights - 73
License to Kill - 71

Goldeneye - 80
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The World Is Not Enough - 51
Die Another Day - 59

Casino Royale - 94
Quantum of Solace - 63


Why the hell is golden eye only 80? and wtf is with TWNE being lower than die another day? Twine is a good movie and christmas can come twice a year, DAD is just awful.
 
2012-08-04 02:12:14 AM
I just watched all the Connery bond films again recently.

Half of them were a complete freakin stink fest, he's got nothing over Moore.

Seriously... Connery fans... You Only Live Twice? Really?
 
2012-08-04 02:15:19 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: 1. Connery
2. Dalton
3. Brosnan (edged out by Dalton by the slightest of margins)
4. Craig
5. Lazenby
6. Moore




Sorry, I like Moore, and for the reasons in the article, he was THE Bond for the ME decade...

And FYEO was the first one I saw in theaters.

And for all the people who think Connery can do no wrong as Bond...Never say Never Again...

One final aside, Nivin should go above Lazenby
 
2012-08-04 02:15:29 AM
1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Lazenby
4. Dalton
5. Brosnan
6. Moore

I always thought that Moore was too much of a lightweight. He should have been getting killed in the first 10 minutes in every one of his Bond movies.

With regards to Lazenby, I didn't like him the first time I watched "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", but that movie and that performance has really grown on me as the years have gone on. A combination of being able to kick ass, but appear vulnerably at the same time. Craig's Bond has similar qualities, but even more so.
 
2012-08-04 02:20:29 AM

unlikely: I just watched all the Connery bond films again recently.

Half of them were a complete freakin stink fest, he's got nothing over Moore.

Seriously... Connery fans... You Only Live Twice? Really?


I love You Only Live Twice. Yes, it's steeped in 1960s ching chong stereotypes, but it's a lot of fun. Plus, Little Nellie. Thunderball was far worse, in my opinion.

wiredroach: From Russia With Love is, of course, the best Bond film of them all.


It's a toss up between From Russia With Love and Goldfinger, and i have to go with the latter.
 
2012-08-04 02:21:58 AM
WTF is up with the cigarette in Connery's mouth? Did they use a picture halfway through photoshopping it out?

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2012-08-04 02:38:49 AM
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Everyone forgets Niven
 
2012-08-04 02:47:07 AM
Connery
Dalton*
Craig
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby**

* - The living Daylights was the first Bond movie I saw in the theatre, I was 10, it was awesome, and it still stands up for me. As other have mentioned I think that his version of Bond comes closest to the books. A somewhat embittered loaner who does what he does because he has too for King and country. Craig has shown this in CR and flashes of it in QoS (the way he cradle Mathias as he dies and then turns on a time and tosses him in a dumpster to buy time). There was even a brief flash of this Bond in Brosnan's Tomorrow Never Dies. For more Dalton goodness, who should check out is turn in Season 4 of Chuck, makes me wonder what would have happened if the studio hadn't tanked after License to Kill.

**- Haven't seen his movie the whole way through, I do remember it dragging somewhat in the ,iddle, before he gets to the chateau.
 
2012-08-04 02:52:11 AM
As much as I respect and admire TMLO, Moonraker is one of my favorites. Drax was an awesome villain. And I loved that damn bloop-bloop-bloop-doo tune.

I hated every Dalton movie except for his first, and while Brosnan is very handsome, that Madonna/Heineken flick was unwatchable.

Love Craig for CR, not so much for QoS, but I have hopes for Skyfall.

So, my list:

1. Craig
2. Connery
3. Moore
4. Everyone else
 
2012-08-04 03:03:02 AM
1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Moore
4. Dalton/Lazenby/Brosnan

Craig captured lightning in a bottle for Casino Royale, no doubt that was the best Bond film in decades, the follow-up was a mess though, and it was clearly a script/directing issue. Connery is still top dog, the OG Bond working with the best material, and From Russia With Love is tops in my book, being the most straightforward espionage plot of the films, and with Robert Shaw leading a crew of memorable villains. Moore is knocked as too light for the series but his early films are distinctive and fresh, he absolutely made the part his own even if he did hang around long enough to become a parody of himself.

Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan all brought a bland "meh" to the series, I find them almost interchangeable and I can barely tell one film from another; Brosnan would be higher up but for the fact that he was on watch for 3 complete stinkers in a row that almost sank the franchise for good, probably not his fault, but you can't give high marks for shiat movies.

Oh and "The Spy Who Loved Me" is the best theme song, hands down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-c8aAntWA

/stupid links button not working.
 
2012-08-04 03:15:03 AM

unlikely: I just watched all the Connery bond films again recently.

Half of them were a complete freakin stink fest, he's got nothing over Moore.

Seriously... Connery fans... You Only Live Twice? Really?


I don't get the love for Connery. He is almost as creepy as Burt Reynolds.
 
2012-08-04 03:18:03 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: 1. Connery.
2. Moore
3. Craig
4. Brosnan
5. Dalton
6. Lazenby

there are no ties, ties are for wimps


Totally agree
 
2012-08-04 03:21:07 AM
Sean Connery can only play one character: Sean Connery.
Dalton should be #1.
 
2012-08-04 03:23:50 AM
ocirats
I hated every Dalton movie except for his first,


Really? All of his others?
 
2012-08-04 03:33:57 AM
My biggest problem with Moonraker was all of the blatant product placement. Didn't even know what that was at the time and it still bugged me.
 
2012-08-04 03:37:02 AM

deadsanta: Oh and "The Spy Who Loved Me" is the best theme song, hands down.


You used to say live and let live . . .

You know you did, you know you did you know you did
 
2012-08-04 04:26:05 AM
1. Connery
2. Dalton
3. Craig
4. Moore
5. Brosnan
6. Lazenby

We needed more Dalton and less Brosnan.

/ Not the bore worms!
 
2012-08-04 05:16:39 AM
i168.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-04 05:47:40 AM

fusillade762: On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81


OHMSS is a pretty good Bond film, but it's about the script and the other actors in it. Most Bond girls are really models turned actresses. Diana Rigg was a former Shakesperian actress. Telly Savalas is wonderful and entirely believable as an egomaniac. The plot works, the characters are good, and the score's really good too. If you'd had Dalton as Bond with that script it might have been one of the best.
 
2012-08-04 07:07:52 AM

The Voice of Doom: ocirats
I hated every Dalton movie except for his first,

Really? All of his others?


The second one in itself counts as three terrible movies.

/my bad
 
2012-08-04 07:17:55 AM
6. Lazenby, but only because he never really gave himself a chance to grow in it. I hated OHMSS for years, but over time it's grown on me, and a lot of that is because of Lazenby's performance. If he'd ended up doing what became DAF and LALD, it might have been a lot different.

5. Moore. By all accounts a genuinely decent man who has spent years working for humanitarian causes, the problem is that Sir Roger was a lousy choice for 007. If he'd have been able to dial back the smirk a bit and convinced the writers to settle down, it might have been a lot different.

4. Dalton. His acting is superb, and he certainly had Fleming's vision within his grasp, but there's something unapproachable about his performances. He definitely managed to reach the coldness and cool brutality that Fleming portrayed and that Connery was able to show in FRWL.

3. Brosnan. A damned good Bond, and in TWINE he really started to close in on what the books were all about (his last scene with Electra is a great example), but he could also swing disturbingly close to Moore territory in his delivery and style.

2. Craig. Perhaps not the best actor of the bunch (Dalton gets that hands down) but he absolutely nails the slightly nouveau riche thug that was Bond in the best of the books. And best of all, he humanizes Bond - this 007 bleeds, makes bad mistakes and shows decency (the previously mentioned bit in QOS where he comforts Mathis in his last moments). Admittedly, QOS did spin out of control but it wasn't Craig's fault at all.

2. Connery. Not another single word needs to be said.
 
2012-08-04 07:23:12 AM
My Bond Rankings

1. Roger Moore: Gets bashed repeatedly, but Moore was the best Bond. First, he was ENGLISH (Bond was born into a upper-class English family) Second, he was the smartest and smoothest Bond. Third, do you really think a Connery Bond could get in the pants of a Dr Goodhead? Not with Connery's two-digit IQ

2. Sean Connery: No doubt played Bond well, and had great Bond films...however, overrated. One, he was SCOTTISH. Two, Ian Fleming really did not like him. Three, he was a total a-hole towards Bond helmsman Cubby Broccoli. Four, "Never Say Never Again" was Connery Crapfest...and its only redeeming value was Cubby Broccoli enjoying watching Connery crap all over himself

3. Daniel Craig: Although "Quantum of Solace" was not that good....it actually demonstrated Craig can play Bond. Mixes Connery's brogue with Moore's English charm. Lets hope he gets better material for Skyfall.

4. Pierce Brosnan: His movies were not bad, but, still, anyone who ever saw Remington Steele can never get used to a Brosnan Bond. And, he was IRISH

5. George Lazenby: Probably unfair to rank him as he had only one film. He was closer to Roger Moore-Bond than any other Bond

6. Timothy Dalton: Good God, he was awful as Bond. I swear he was chronically constipated in his two Bond movies....he was never shaken nor stirred. Strange to see him considered one of the better Bonds when he had two weak Bond appearances. The producers did not call him back when they resurrected the Bond films in the mid-90's...there was a reason why a still-then-young Dalton was not brought back...yet they kept Moore until he was almost 60
 
2012-08-04 07:23:47 AM
1) Connery

2) Everyone else

3) Moore
 
2012-08-04 07:34:41 AM

Tsar_Bomba1: My biggest problem with Moonraker was all of the blatant product placement. Didn't even know what that was at the time and it still bugged me.


Moonraker was actually OK until they went into space. Having the lady run from the dogs freaked me OUT when I was a kid.

And I liked Dalton's Bond, just not the movies.

And I liked Brosnon's Bond, but he always spoke like he had to pull his lips apart because they were glued together and inhaled through his nose as he said the first word. You can hear the spit smack and the air inhale. It's really noticeable in Tomorrow Never Dies. And now you'll never NOT hear it too. You're welcome.
 
2012-08-04 07:36:56 AM
I think Dalton was really held back by the overall style of moviemaking during his time, which was overly influenced by shiat like Romancing the Stone and Miami Vice.

1) Connery
2) Dalton
3) Craig
4) Brosnan
5) Lazenby
6) Moore

ReluctantPaladin: Connery
Dalton*
Craig
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby**


You said rape Dalton twice.
 
2012-08-04 07:46:36 AM

rotorschnee: Like the retconning of the Goldeneye Video Game: Pierce out, Craig in. It seems so.... weird.


farked up is what it is.
 
2012-08-04 08:14:23 AM

netizencain: If you ever read the books, Dalton was actually closer. That doesn't mean those movies were better or that his acting was superior.... just that his portrayal and the script writing was more Bond than other Bonds.


I think Craig comes closer to the books, basically a thug in tuxs but either or. If you are Bond purist (books) then it is Dalton or Craig they are the top fo the list. As for the others, to include Connery, it is like preferring Basil Rathborn or Robert Downey Jr as Sherlock Homes over Jeremy Brett and Benedict Cumberbatch.

QOS really was not that bad when you consider they were basically shooting from the hip because of the writers strike.

Also Dench is the better M.
 
2012-08-04 08:17:16 AM
The only thing Timothy Dalton should be remembered for is Flash Gordon.
 
2012-08-04 08:22:11 AM

TalonZahn: The only thing Timothy Dalton should be remembered for is Flash Gordon.


You, apparently, haven't seen Hot Fuzz
 
2012-08-04 08:29:09 AM

ChuckyV: [i168.photobucket.com image 378x500]


Glad someone was on the ball.
 
2012-08-04 08:29:23 AM

hasty ambush: I think Craig comes closer to the books, basically a thug in tuxs but either or. If you are Bond purist (books) then it is Dalton or Craig they are the top fo the list


Yeah, everyone always says that but without the suave vodka chugging and womanizing, it just comes off as a Bourne ripoff.
 
2012-08-04 08:46:36 AM

hundreddollarman: CSB: I have the same birthday as a James Bond actor. Not so cool: Roger Moore (Oct. 14)

1. Connery
2. Brosnan
3. Craig
4. Dalton
5. Moore
6. Lazenby


This is the correct answer. Thread over.
 
2012-08-04 08:49:16 AM

AtlanticCoast63: 2. Craig. Perhaps not the best actor of the bunch (Dalton gets that hands down) but he absolutely nails the slightly nouveau riche thug that was Bond in the best of the books. And best of all, he humanizes Bond - this 007 bleeds, makes bad mistakes and shows decency (the previously mentioned bit in QOS where he comforts Mathis in his last moments). Admittedly, QOS did spin out of control but it wasn't Craig's fault at all.

2. Connery. Not another single word needs to be said.


So it's a tie?
 
2012-08-04 08:52:46 AM
Once again a list on the net makes me want to punch a baby... I grew up on moore as my bond in the 80's... then the franchise got so bad i had to stop watching.. a friend told me to watch Casino Royale and it was OMFG!!!! Craig is by far the best bond, the action scenes are amazing.... then moore for me.. don't care bout the rest.. not a connery fan
 
2012-08-04 09:05:29 AM

Mugato: hasty ambush: I think Craig comes closer to the books, basically a thug in tuxs but either or. If you are Bond purist (books) then it is Dalton or Craig they are the top fo the list

Yeah, everyone always says that but without the suave vodka chugging and womanizing, it just comes off as a Bourne ripoff.


The Bourne character always seemed more angst driven an almost EMO type, Bond would take his lunch money
 
2012-08-04 09:08:03 AM
Yeah, the Bourne movies were always kind of boring to me but there's no doubt that they influenced the latest Bond movies.
 
2012-08-04 09:12:07 AM

zarberg: I think a more important question is who are the top Bond women?

I know some of you are gonna flame me big time for this, but I loved Michelle Yeoh


Second.

And I don't even generally like the Asian women, but for some reason I would wear her like a hockey mask.
 
2012-08-04 09:42:26 AM
1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Lazenby
5. Dalton
6. Moore
 
2012-08-04 09:47:02 AM
1. Connery.
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Moore
5. Dalton

Moore is at 4 because of A View to a Kill. He looked old in that movie, and acted old. Brosnan wasn't too bad in License to Kill, but Wayne Newton?!? Really?

I like the reboot with Craig, but you can't beat Connery.

Lazenby gets a push because he only in one.
 
2012-08-04 10:11:19 AM
Neglecting Lazenby because he was only in one film:

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton (narrowly)
4. Moore, when he's good (The Spy Who Loved Me, etc.)
5. Brosnan
6. Moore, when he sucks (Moonraker, etc.)
 
2012-08-04 10:22:04 AM

MrTDGoodrich: Neglecting Lazenby because he was only in one film:

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton (narrowly)
4. Moore, when he's good (The Spy Who Loved Me, etc.)
5. Brosnan
6. Moore, when he sucks (Moonraker, etc.)


yeah, I'll agree with this completely
 
2012-08-04 10:49:56 AM
Connery as number 1? Oh come on. Have people not seen the movies recently. They haven't aged well, his fighting is awful and his line delivery is cartoonish. He is supposed to be a super spy, not some caricature of a cool guy.
 
2012-08-04 10:55:04 AM
Best Bond/Movie?

"You expect me to talk?"
"No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"

i218.photobucket.com

Best Bond Girl--well, maybe not a "Bond Girl", but a girl who was in a Bond Movie:

i218.photobucket.com

/Kittens died...
 
2012-08-04 11:25:13 AM

DancingElkCondor: My Bond Rankings

1. Roger Moore: Gets bashed repeatedly, but Moore was the best Bond. First, he was ENGLISH (Bond was born into a upper-class English family) Second, he was the smartest and smoothest Bond. Third, do you really think a Connery Bond could get in the pants of a Dr Goodhead? Not with Connery's two-digit IQ

2. Sean Connery: No doubt played Bond well, and had great Bond films...however, overrated. One, he was SCOTTISH. Two, Ian Fleming really did not like him. Three, he was a total a-hole towards Bond helmsman Cubby Broccoli. Four, "Never Say Never Again" was Connery Crapfest...and its only redeeming value was Cubby Broccoli enjoying watching Connery crap all over himself

3. Daniel Craig: Although "Quantum of Solace" was not that good....it actually demonstrated Craig can play Bond. Mixes Connery's brogue with Moore's English charm. Lets hope he gets better material for Skyfall.

4. Pierce Brosnan: His movies were not bad, but, still, anyone who ever saw Remington Steele can never get used to a Brosnan Bond. And, he was IRISH

5. George Lazenby: Probably unfair to rank him as he had only one film. He was closer to Roger Moore-Bond than any other Bond

6. Timothy Dalton: Good God, he was awful as Bond. I swear he was chronically constipated in his two Bond movies....he was never shaken nor stirred. Strange to see him considered one of the better Bonds when he had two weak Bond appearances. The producers did not call him back when they resurrected the Bond films in the mid-90's...there was a reason why a still-then-young Dalton was not brought back...yet they kept Moore until he was almost 60


Your logic for 1 and 2 is based on seriously flawed info of Bond's background.

Dad was Scottish, mom was Swiss.
 
2012-08-04 11:27:02 AM
With the exception of Lazenby, I like them all equally, but for different reasons. Can't wait for Skyfall.
 
2012-08-04 11:28:10 AM
Isolating the character portrayal from the (unfortunately often) sucky script and direction, My list is:

Brosnan - I thought he embodied the suave, mildly wisecracking, womanizing agent of destruction better than any of the rest. He also had the look and swagger of someone who was a well-heeled military officer but who had also completed the toughest training available. He never looked perplexed or lost (as did Dalton), he could pull off the suavity needed for the casino scenes without looking like a tarted-up street thug (Craig), and was believable as a man who women would gladly disrobe for. On that front, he was probably a bit too good-looking for what Fleming intended. Another plus for his portrayal was that his humor never seemed forced or uncomfortable (again, Dalton and Lazenby). Many of his movies were shiat, but that doesn't take away from his all-around best portrayal of the character of Bond.

Connery - yeah, he's cool and oh-so-swinging-60's, but his Bond was way too flippant. His Bond, more than the others I would say, suffered the most from the style of the times. He was a great Bond, but his over-the-top bravado and smarmy one-liners make me cringe at times. When he was vulnerable, though, he did a great job at conveying the desperation of quick thinking (the Goldfinger laser scene comes to mind).

Dalton - to me, he captured the essence of the upper-crusty British agent. While he was somewhat awkward in the comedic aspects of the role and the romantic aspects became more comedic than intended, he had a disarming charm that could turn lethal and quite ruthless in an instant and it was rather shocking when it did. When it was time for action, he became businesslike and quite competent and Dalton handled it in a believable fashion. He was probably closest to the mark of the physical look that Fleming described.

Lazenby - Like Dalton, more of the "right" kind of character portrayal of an agent that comes from a monied background. Businesslike when it mattered, although somewhat too much so. I think he benefitted from good direction and the fact that there's only one film to analyze his interpretation - he didn't have time to screw it up.

Craig - Unfortunately, not too much to go on even after two films, and that's a shame. He really doesn't seem to come from money; more like a smart street thug that got gentrified in training. So far, I find him to be waaay too brooding and serious, abandoning almost any of the charm and wit of Bond. Like most of us, we're hoping Skyfall will actually let us see what his Bond is made of.

Moore - Yep, on the bottom. While a couple of his films are my faves (LaLD, FYEO), that's more because of the plot or incidentals rather than the portrayal. His Bond was way too wise-cracky and I never believed his ruthlessness for a minute. He was like a comic-relief Bond. Hell, he was just one step above David Niven's portrayal, and that was probably due more to script than anything. He did do the upper-crusty thing justice, though.

As for the ladies, too many to mention but a naked young Lynn-Holly Johnson waiting in bed still haunts me to this day.

www.james-bond007.de
 
2012-08-04 11:32:55 AM

Trapper439: I think Dalton was really held back by the overall style of moviemaking during his time, which was overly influenced by shiat like Romancing the Stone and Miami Vice.

1) Connery
2) Dalton
3) Craig
4) Brosnan
5) Lazenby
6) Moore

ReluctantPaladin: Connery
Dalton*
Craig
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby**


You said rape Dalton twice.


I like Dalton.

/And i meant Brosnan for the 4th spot
 
2012-08-04 11:35:47 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The Stealth Hippopotamus: 3. Timothy Dalton

You trolling


The thing is, I'm okay with this ranking. I thought Dalton was a solid Bond and got a raw deal. He got criticized for the same things that Daniel Craig is praised for (not to take anything away from Craig, naturally).

Roger Moore for the second overall Bond, though, is not what I had in mind.


This.

Dalton was trying to bring Bond back to the Bond of the books after it had been turned into a cartoon character by Roger Moore. The audience wasn't ready for it.

I would move Moore down to #5. Other than that, I approve to this list.
 
2012-08-04 11:36:04 AM

ReluctantPaladin: Trapper439: I think Dalton was really held back by the overall style of moviemaking during his time, which was overly influenced by shiat like Romancing the Stone and Miami Vice.

1) Connery
2) Dalton
3) Craig
4) Brosnan
5) Lazenby
6) Moore

ReluctantPaladin: Connery
Dalton*
Craig
Dalton
Moore
Lazenby**


You said rape Dalton twice.

I like Dalton.

/And i meant Brosnan for the 4th spot


Amazing what can pop up when you forget that FARK doesn't carry through the strikethroughs from previous posts.

/For the record I am not advocating that anyone rape Timothy Dalton
//at this time
 
2012-08-04 11:38:36 AM

MBrady: 1. Connery.
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Moore
5. Dalton

Moore is at 4 because of A View to a Kill. He looked old in that movie, and acted old. Brosnan Dalton wasn't too bad in License to Kill, but Wayne Newton?!? Really?

I like the reboot with Craig, but you can't beat Connery.

Lazenby gets a push because he only in one.



FTFY.
 
2012-08-04 11:43:23 AM

MBrady: 1. Connery.
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Moore
5. Dalton

Moore is at 4 because of A View to a Kill. He looked old in that movie, and acted old. Brosnan wasn't too bad in License to Kill, but Wayne Newton?!? Really?

I like the reboot with Craig, but you can't beat Connery.

Lazenby gets a push because he only in one.



True, his acting was subtle enough that I didn't even notice he was in it.

/Nerd rage
//Although it's not helping my case for Dalton that everyone, including myself, is interchanging him and Brosnan
 
2012-08-04 11:43:32 AM
There could have been so much more Dalton.

Dalton was offered Bond before Moore, but he didn't want to be a too-young replacement for Connery.

Dalton was offered it again after Moonraker but he couldn't take the series seriously at that point.

When Dalton finally took it, he was the second choice after they couldn't get Brosnan out of his Remington Steele contract.

Dalton's run got interrupted by years of legal bullshiat and Goldeneye was supposed to be his third film. When they kept him waiting too long to start production he walked.

Of course there could have been more Lazenby instead of Moore if it wasn't for Lazenby's wrongheaded agent. There even could have been Adam West beginning with Diamonds Are Forever.

Moore did it longer than anybody and he's great, you have to be in the mood for that style.
 
2012-08-04 11:51:11 AM
www.joblo.com
 
2012-08-04 11:52:25 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: kronicfeld: A View to a Kill was unwatchable. Close call.

Indeed.

A View to a Kill had a wrinkly James Bond. That does not compute.


It did, however, have Grace Jones as his female counterpart and a laughably miscast Tanya Roberts as a geologist.
 
2012-08-04 11:53:39 AM

Hebalo: DancingElkCondor: My Bond Rankings

1. Roger Moore: Gets bashed repeatedly, but Moore was the best Bond. First, he was ENGLISH (Bond was born into a upper-class English family) Second, he was the smartest and smoothest Bond. Third, do you really think a Connery Bond could get in the pants of a Dr Goodhead? Not with Connery's two-digit IQ

2. Sean Connery: No doubt played Bond well, and had great Bond films...however, overrated. One, he was SCOTTISH. Two, Ian Fleming really did not like him. Three, he was a total a-hole towards Bond helmsman Cubby Broccoli. Four, "Never Say Never Again" was Connery Crapfest...and its only redeeming value was Cubby Broccoli enjoying watching Connery crap all over himself

[snip]

Your logic for 1 and 2 is based on seriously flawed info of Bond's background.

Dad was Scottish, mom was Swiss.


ISTR that while Fleming was initially unhappy with Connery, after he got to know him he came around, and
that he added the detail about Bond's father being Scottish in the later books as a tribute to his newfound
respect for Connery.
 
2012-08-04 12:21:49 PM
Roger Moore never played James Bond. He was the saint in every movie. That's right, Simon Templar, not James Bond.
 
2012-08-04 12:22:24 PM
The first Bond film I ever saw had a giant guy with big silver teeth biting people.
(my bro rented it - no idea the title, etc - my young mind only remembered that image)

Since I have no other enduring memory of that film - what was that all about?


/pretty sure it was a Bond film... title?
 
2012-08-04 12:30:09 PM

nanim: The first Bond film I ever saw had a giant guy with big silver teeth biting people.
(my bro rented it - no idea the title, etc - my young mind only remembered that image)

Since I have no other enduring memory of that film - what was that all about?

/pretty sure it was a Bond film... title?


That was Jaws. He was in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.

Oddjob is the best henchman.
 
2012-08-04 12:41:47 PM
Baffled that so many people are calling "License to Kill" a Bond Movie:

i.imgur.com

...even the article gets it wrong.
 
2012-08-04 12:46:16 PM
Their rankings were actually pretty good. The explanation for Brosnan's low position was spot-on. In my view he was the absolute worst Bond. Craig, Dalton, and Moore are all pretty much tied, as far as I'm concerned. They each have their strengths and were entertaining in their own way, though none of them could carry an otherwise awful movie (Quantum, Golden Gun). Even Connery, who's head and shoulders above everyone else, couldn't make Diamonds are Forever work.
 
2012-08-04 12:49:41 PM
I loved Dalton's Bond films. Licence to Kill is probably the most underrated film in the Bond franchise.
 
2012-08-04 12:54:40 PM

Bith Set Me Up: I loved Dalton's Bond films. Licence to Kill is probably the most underrated film in the Bond franchise.


I liked it,but I absolutely loathed The Living Daylights,which I found to be a meandering mess. Hell,even the Bond girl played by Maryam D'Abo was disappointing.
 
2012-08-04 12:58:07 PM

Richard Roma: Their rankings were actually pretty good. The explanation for Brosnan's low position was spot-on. In my view he was the absolute worst Bond. Craig, Dalton, and Moore are all pretty much tied, as far as I'm concerned. They each have their strengths and were entertaining in their own way, though none of them could carry an otherwise awful movie (Quantum, Golden Gun). Even Connery, who's head and shoulders above everyone else, couldn't make Diamonds are Forever work.


I thought You only live twice was a steaming pile also

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-04 01:21:59 PM
I like all of them at different times.

Goldeneye is one of the best Bond films. Die Another Day is one of the worst. They use the same Bond actor. Moore did 7 films(?), Dalton... 2(?). How do you compare that?

I actually like Moonraker's campiness. It's entertaining.
I thought You Only Live Twice (Connery going to Japan and "becoming" Japanese) was actually rather ridiculous and bordering on stupid.
Dalton is menacing. Craig is more menacing. Connery is cool. Brosnan is suave... Moore is, well... Moore. Lazenby just lacked presence, in my opinion, but had a lot to appreciate.

I'll watch all of them.
 
2012-08-04 01:35:01 PM

Nem Wan: There could have been so much more Dalton.

Dalton was offered Bond before Moore, but he didn't want to be a too-young replacement for Connery.

Dalton was offered it again after Moonraker but he couldn't take the series seriously at that point.

When Dalton finally took it, he was the second choice after they couldn't get Brosnan out of his Remington Steele contract.

Dalton's run got interrupted by years of legal bullshiat and Goldeneye was supposed to be his third film. When they kept him waiting too long to start production he walked.

Of course there could have been more Lazenby instead of Moore if it wasn't for Lazenby's wrongheaded agent. There even could have been Adam West beginning with Diamonds Are Forever.

Moore did it longer than anybody and he's great, you have to be in the mood for that style.


It doesn't help that Dalton was doing rather serious movies in the heyday of over the top 80s action. GoldenEye was sort of a continuation of that style(with a more modern touch, obviously), and fit in much better with the current filmcrop at the time.
 
2012-08-04 01:42:22 PM

nanim: The first Bond film I ever saw had a giant guy with big silver teeth biting people.
(my bro rented it - no idea the title, etc - my young mind only remembered that image)

Since I have no other enduring memory of that film - what was that all about?

/pretty sure it was a Bond film... title?


My first Bond film was Goldfinger . Saw it in 1965 at Drive in theater in Hawaii. My then young mind remembered the car with the ejection seat, machine guns in the headlights and Oddjob's hat.
 
2012-08-04 01:43:03 PM

Mugato: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: Pierce Brosnan was the best after Connery. He had the cool, suave calculating thing down and he was a cold blooded killer when he had to be. It just sucked that his last couple movies were lame.

The World is Not Enough had some redeeming qualities.

I really dug the reappearance of Robbie Coltrane as Valentin.

And of course, there's Q's final scene, one of the best farewell scenes in a movie (even if ol' Desmond hadn't intended that to be his last Bond movie).

I actually liked The World is Not Enough a lot. Yeah, there was a nuclear weapons scientist named Christmas Jones played by Denise Richards but it's a farking James Bond movie. I think it was a solid Bond film. Not as good as GoldenEye but better than any of the Roger Moore efforts.


You are smoking some serious crack if you think TWINE was better that For Your Eyes Only.. That was one of the best Bond flicks. EVER. Period. Full stop.

NO gimmicks, no crazy toys he could use, nothing. Pure spy flick with all the elements of the Cold War and the superpowers using proxies. In fact, I dare say it was a crowning achievement in Bond films.
 
2012-08-04 01:48:39 PM
Live and Let Die. I love that movie for some reason. That said, Daniel Craig is best Bond imho.
 
2012-08-04 01:55:55 PM

Accolade: I'll watch all of them.


Precisely that.

Except for Die Another Day, because... well, I established that enough already.


hasty ambush: My first Bond film was Goldfinger . Saw it in 1965 at Drive in theater in Hawaii. My then young mind remembered the car with the ejection seat, machine guns in the headlights and Oddjob's hat.


Aw, man... that had to rock something fierce!


bhcompy: It doesn't help that Dalton was doing rather serious movies in the heyday of over the top 80s action.


That, and Licence to Kill was overshadowed because they had the brilliant idea to release that opposite Batman.

Licence to Kill got *crushed* at the box office because of that.


Summer Glau's Love Slave: Live and Let Die. I love that movie for some reason.


Baron Samedi is a lot of fun there, and in those 7-Up commercials.

"These... are cola nuts! ... THESE are uncola nuts!"
 
2012-08-04 02:12:21 PM

buntz: TalonZahn: The only thing Timothy Dalton should be remembered for is Flash Gordon.

You, apparently, haven't seen Hot Fuzz


As much as I hated Dalton as Bond....he was Oscar-worthy in Hot Fuzz. Minature-City-Catherdral-Spire-In-Throat-Face was killer
 
2012-08-04 02:14:43 PM

DancingElkCondor: As much as I hated Dalton as Bond....he was Oscar-worthy in Hot Fuzz.



I would never ever argue with that. His was a special brand of hamminess that you just don't see every day.

"I'm sure if we bashed your head in, all sorts of secrets would come tumbling out!"

The film was funny enough as it is, but Dalton brought it up several levels on his *own.*
 
2012-08-04 02:24:55 PM

nanim: The first Bond film I ever saw had a giant guy with big silver teeth biting people.
(my bro rented it - no idea the title, etc - my young mind only remembered that image)

Since I have no other enduring memory of that film - what was that all about?

/pretty sure it was a Bond film... title?


Richard Kiel....who was Jaws....in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.
 
2012-08-04 02:28:26 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: DancingElkCondor: As much as I hated Dalton as Bond....he was Oscar-worthy in Hot Fuzz.


I would never ever argue with that. His was a special brand of hamminess that you just don't see every day.

"I'm sure if we bashed your head in, all sorts of secrets would come tumbling out!"

The film was funny enough as it is, but Dalton brought it up several levels on his *own.*


I always thought Hot Fuzz was better than Shaun of the Dead because of Dalton and the other co-stars. I think he is one of the best "bad-guys" ever in a film.
 
2012-08-04 02:32:17 PM

fusillade762: Oh, and this, since it tends to piss people off for some reason:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:


OK, averaging that data comes up with this ranking:

1) Connery (87)
2) Lazenby (81)
3) Craig (79)
4) Dalton (72)
5) Brosnan (62)
6) Moore (60)

imokwiththis.jpg
 
2012-08-04 02:58:18 PM
Sure, parts of his portrayal haven't aged well, like when he tells a conquest to scram because of ''man talk.'' But the whiff of chauvinism you catch watching his films is undercut by Connery's oddball charm and quirky delivery.

Sorry apologist writer, but part of what makes Connery's Bond awesome is that he says this stuff and totally pulls it off.
If anything, it's refreshingly anachronistic, and often hilariously inappropriate to contemporary sensibilities.
It's aged brilliantly, and Connery doesn't undercut it, he owns it.
 
2012-08-04 03:04:50 PM

DancingElkCondor: I always thought Hot Fuzz was better than Shaun of the Dead because of Dalton and the other co-stars. I think he is one of the best "bad-guys" ever in a film.


Oh, no doubt.

I enjoyed Shaun, but I loved the hell out of Fuzz. It's the supporting cast that makes that movie, Dalton especially.

How The World's End will hold up, I have no idea.
 
2012-08-04 03:08:03 PM
You're the Bond now, dawg!
 
2012-08-04 03:19:58 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
There was a time when I thought, "Quantum of Solace has to be the worst Bond film."

Then I sat down and forced myself to watch Die Another Day again.

Quantum of Solace has its moments, however few and far between they may be.

Die Another Day seemed like it made a conscious and dedicated effort to get as many things wrong about the film series as possible. You almost get the impression that the director (who went on to direct xXx: State of the Union, incidentally) never sat down and watched a Bond film in his life.


The sad thing is the director of Die Another Day is responsible for one of the most moving movies I've ever seen... Once Were Warriors. Then he had to go shiat things up in hollywood.

Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.
 
2012-08-04 03:20:32 PM

farkeruk: fusillade762: On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81

OHMSS is a pretty good Bond film, but it's about the script and the other actors in it. Most Bond girls are really models turned actresses. Diana Rigg was a former Shakesperian actress. Telly Savalas is wonderful and entirely believable as an egomaniac. The plot works, the characters are good, and the score's really good too. If you'd had Dalton as Bond with that script it might have been one of the best.


THIS. It also is the closest of any of the movies to the book it was based on.
 
2012-08-04 03:31:25 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Warren: Connery is the only actor in the bunch.

Andrew: Timothy Dalton should get an Oscar and (yells) beat Sean Connery over the head with it!
 
2012-08-04 03:41:03 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The sad thing is the director of Die Another Day is responsible for one of the most moving movies I've ever seen... Once Were Warriors. Then he had to go shiat things up in hollywood.

Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.


I'm guessing he saw a potential in action films like Die Another Day and xXx 2.

Then he made Next, but that's a Nic Cage discussion, and that's a whole other thread of its own.


Badgers: 2.bp.blogspot.com

Warren: Connery is the only actor in the bunch.

Andrew: Timothy Dalton should get an Oscar and (yells) beat Sean Connery over the head with it!


HAHAHAHAHAH

Yelling: "GET! OUT! OF MY! VILLAGE!"


Boxcutta: You're the Bond now, dawg!


Haw haw, YESH!!!
 
2012-08-04 03:55:49 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Then he made Next, but that's a Nic Cage discussion, and that's a whole other thread of its own.


It's impossible to have a reasonable Nic Cage discussion because it seems like nobody can ever make a valid argument.
 
2012-08-04 03:58:16 PM
content9.flixster.com

"No, no Connery. Roger Moore."
 
2012-08-04 04:22:58 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: It's impossible to have a reasonable Nic Cage discussion because it seems like nobody can ever make a valid argument.


Nobody gets A's when using Nicolas Cage points during debates.

Only bees.
 
2012-08-04 04:51:15 PM
But seriously, EW, the real ranking is:

1. Connery
2. Dalton
3. Craig
4. Connerry
5. Lazenby
6. Moore

Ah, happy to see so many people are correct about Moore.
 
2012-08-04 05:07:59 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The All-Powerful Atheismo: It's impossible to have a reasonable Nic Cage discussion because it seems like nobody can ever make a valid argument.

Nobody gets A's when using Nicolas Cage points during debates.

Only bees.


Heh...I see you're on fiyah today,bro. Keep up the stellar work.
 
2012-08-04 05:20:32 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Heh, Moore was a literal clown in his appearance in Octopussy!

Connery, though, was effortlessly and naturally cool. He could be callous and tough as nails, but still have a non-in-your-face sense of sly humor.



I'm sorry but Connery was just as much a clown, not sly humor, in Diamonds are Forever and You Only Live Twice. For all QOS faults those two Connery films were worse.


Moonraker was the worse Bond Film ever and for that reason Moore should be at the bottom of the list.


Unfortunately it does look as though Skyfall and Craig will be Bourne like.
 
2012-08-04 05:31:33 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.


I really didn't like it the first time I saw it, but with repeated viewings It's grown on me.
 
2012-08-04 05:33:07 PM

hundreddollarman: CSB: I have the same birthday as a James Bond actor. Not so cool: Roger Moore (Oct. 14)

1. Connery
2. Brosnan
3. Craig
4. Dalton
5. Moore
6. Lazenby




This list, I agree with.
 
2012-08-04 06:01:41 PM

fusillade762: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.

I really didn't like it the first time I saw it, but with repeated viewings It's grown on me.


People got spoiled. They forgot that two movies before it Bond had an INVISIFARKINGBLE CAR
 
2012-08-04 08:10:18 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: RobertBruce: Oh, and just because I need to say it in Bond discussions: QoS is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

There was a time when I thought, "Quantum of Solace has to be the worst Bond film."

Then I sat down and forced myself to watch Die Another Day again.

Quantum of Solace has its moments, however few and far between they may be.

Die Another Day seemed like it made a conscious and dedicated effort to get as many things wrong about the film series as possible. You almost get the impression that the director (who went on to direct xXx: State of the Union, incidentally) never sat down and watched a Bond film in his life.

I'd have to go through the lesser Moore (not a pun, I swear) films like Moonraker to determine if QoS is the second worst in the series. As it stands, QoS is pretty far down. Among other things, STOP SHAKING THE CAMERA AND MAKING JUMP CUTS. Heaven forbid someone tries to follow your action sequences.


Octopussy. [shudder]
 
2012-08-04 09:06:40 PM

SithLord: hundreddollarman: CSB: I have the same birthday as a James Bond actor. Not so cool: Roger Moore (Oct. 14)

1. Connery
2. Brosnan
3. Craig
4. Dalton
5. Moore
6. Lazenby



This list, I agree with.


Me as well, though switch 4 and 5. Dalton was terrible,and the movies themselves weren't much better.
 
2012-08-04 10:00:48 PM
How about we rank the title scenes for the movies, not the bumper scene, but the inital credits with the backlight nekkid girls.

1. Octopussy
2 .Spy Who Loved Me
3. Diamonds Are Forever
 
2012-08-05 04:19:14 AM
It's Moore for me, but I realise this is entirely sentimental. Moore was Bond when I was a kid, during my most impressionable stage.

So it just kind of stuck, Moore as Bond.
 
2012-08-05 11:20:47 AM
Casino Royale's opening with the fractals and that song were tops.
Great way to introduce Craig.
 
2012-08-05 12:03:40 PM
As someone said upthread, panning Moore because of the body of work is kind of weak, because a few of his movies are good, but the rest are most definitely not. And panning Connery, Dalton & Brosnan for not being pure 100,000% British is dumb. So let me start by putting movies in order by Bond:

Connery: Goldfinger, From Russia With Love (by the slimmest of margins), Dr. No, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever (by a wide margin). (Thunderball is better than people are making it out to be in this thread, and the main problem with YOLT is that there is no shown purpose served by Bond turning Japanese within the film. And Connery just shouldn't have done Diamonds are Forever.)

Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, The Man with the Golden Gun, Live and Let Die, A View To A Kill (because WALKEN), Octopussy, Moonraker. Moonraker deserves its position at the bottom or near bottom of every list because (a) they brought Jaws back and made him a farking clown, (b) the hovercraft through Venice, and (c) the space thing was completely overdone. Conversely, The Spy Who Loved Me belongs at the top because it's got the least stupidity going on (Jaws isn't that bad in this film). The rest all have their good & bad points (bad points: the hockey fight in FYEO, the return of JW & the flying Matador in MWTGG, the cabbie in L&LD - Bond's Jar-Jar, in my mind). And he was just too old by the time he made Octopussy & A View to A Kill.

Brosnan: Goldeneye, The World Is Not Enough, Tomorrow Never Dies (starts too slow for me, and Teri Hatcher is all but pointless in it), Die Another Day (because it nosedives off of the believeability scale right around the point where Bond goes to the clinic).

Craig: Casino Royale is awesome, and Quantom of Solace is bad for the reasons stated upthread. (I just wish they'd make Craig dye his farking hair so we'd never hear the "Blondie Bond" crap again.)

Dalton: I consider Living Daylights to be marginally better than License to Kill because while they both kinda end meh (c'mon, Wayne Newton?!), I think there's too much of a Miami Vice vibe going on in LTK.

OHMSS is okay, but it drags in the middle.

So given the above, I'm splitting Moore and Craig in half too.

Connery, Craig in Casino Royale, Brosnan, Dalton/Good Moore (tie), Lazenby, Craig in QoS, Bad Moore.
 
2012-08-06 01:26:35 PM

Stile4aly: It's a toss up between From Russia With Love and Goldfinger, and i have to go with the latter.

Goldfinger

is definitely the film where they perfected the formula...but I've got to give the edge to FRWL because it's so stylish and doesn't rely on the crazy cliches of the later films.
 
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