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(ABC)   Best Korea's carrot and stick approach to the Olympic medal motivation: Refrigerators for winners, labor camp for traitorous losers   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 14
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2012-08-03 07:14:33 PM
Sounds like a fine plan, an adviser to the Romney campaign said in a brief comment.
 
2012-08-03 07:36:48 PM
A part of me wishes the US would do something to help these obviously suffering people. The other part of me says I'm tired of getting involved in foreign affairs when they don't directly concern or affect us.

I hate that I am of two minds on this.
 
2012-08-03 09:28:13 PM
There be some movement at the international government level to try create an asylum state program that would allow all people of the world to opt out of their respective nations if they choose so to an independent state with restrictive policies but at the same time a great deal of rights and freedoms possibly not found in their homelands. The restrictive policies would include very limited political representation and government assistance outside of UN standards for food, health, water, etc. The freedoms would be that equivalent in most Western nations but with limited freedoms for international movement outside of the "state" and the right to political representation due to the fact that different ethnic and racial groups would probably want to be represented by one of their own and lead to a larger political body that tried to compromise for everyone. This proposed state isn't to create a free land of choice and opportunity for everyone but to allow those to escape a system they were born into. Its completely their choice to go there but if they do go they have to fit into a fixed structure that is open and closed at the same time- there is no option for one or the other. It may allow for a great deal of relief to those suffering around the world but in no way is it a handout state- the individual is responsible for everything and everyone they bring just like most immigrants to a new land. If a poor family wants to leave North Korea for this new "state" and they bring everything with them on their backs they have to figure a way to survive (get a job, food, schooling, etc) for the family with little assistance from the government other than consoling on possible tentative housing situations.
Don't ask how this gets paid for- honestly a chunk of the money that goes to IMF should just go this instead since most countries can't seem to effectively pay that debt off anyway.
 
2012-08-03 09:48:48 PM

Coco LaFemme: A part of me wishes the US would do something to help these obviously suffering people. The other part of me says I'm tired of getting involved in foreign affairs when they don't directly concern or affect us.

I hate that I am of two minds on this.


I know what you mean. The US can't intervene because we're stretched way too thin. It would be nice if another country would do it, but I'm not holding my breath.

The Best Koreans themselves probably won't rebel because it's very hard for people who are undernourished to stage a revolution. They can't even think on that level when they need to spend so much energy on getting enough to eat. There's a great book about the psychology of starvation called "The Great Starvation Experiment". Fascinating reading, I highly recommend.
 
2012-08-04 12:03:10 AM

Flacman: There be some movement at the international government level to try create an asylum state program that would allow all people of the world to opt out of their respective nations if they choose so to an independent state with restrictive policies but at the same time a great deal of rights and freedoms possibly not found in their homelands. The restrictive policies would include very limited political representation and government assistance outside of UN standards for food, health, water, etc. The freedoms would be that equivalent in most Western nations but with limited freedoms for international movement outside of the "state" and the right to political representation due to the fact that different ethnic and racial groups would probably want to be represented by one of their own and lead to a larger political body that tried to compromise for everyone. This proposed state isn't to create a free land of choice and opportunity for everyone but to allow those to escape a system they were born into. Its completely their choice to go there but if they do go they have to fit into a fixed structure that is open and closed at the same time- there is no option for one or the other. It may allow for a great deal of relief to those suffering around the world but in no way is it a handout state- the individual is responsible for everything and everyone they bring just like most immigrants to a new land. If a poor family wants to leave North Korea for this new "state" and they bring everything with them on their backs they have to figure a way to survive (get a job, food, schooling, etc) for the family with little assistance from the government other than consoling on possible tentative housing situations.
Don't ask how this gets paid for- honestly a chunk of the money that goes to IMF should just go this instead since most countries can't seem to effectively pay that debt off anyway.


Sounds like a place only a hairs breadth better than Somalia. A Libertarian paradise lite.
 
2012-08-04 02:39:15 AM
FTFA:

"Hand-picked by the Communist Party's Sports Committee, the athletes are trained at very young ages and registered at specialized schools which provide "daily meals and spending money at times," said Gu-Kyeong Bang, a defector living in South Korea. "

Daily meals? Most Norks would kill for that kind of luxury!
 
2012-08-04 07:50:13 AM
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Do the winners rotate each day on who gets to run the refrigerator? Because the light bulb is already taken.

Poor miserable bastards.
 
2012-08-04 10:58:40 AM
and this is why best korea should not be at the olympics...
 
2012-08-04 11:02:49 AM
As much as I really wish conditions in North Korea would get better and Un would be overthrown, it's not going to happen. His people are pretty much brainwashed into believing he is a God-like figure...he could probably piss all over their faces and they would thank him for his blessing.
 
2012-08-04 11:24:30 AM
Well they shouldn't have gone and disgraced themselves and their country like that. The labor camps are great training for the next competition. Nobody complains when NFL players go to training camps.
 
2012-08-04 11:48:12 AM

Pfft!: As much as I really wish conditions in North Korea would get better and Un would be overthrown, it's not going to happen. His people are pretty much brainwashed into believing he is a God-like figure...he could probably piss all over their faces and they would thank him for his blessing.


It's not as simple as that. They don't, by and large, believe what they are taught, but they also don't know what to believe.
 
2012-08-04 12:47:31 PM

SharkTrager: It's not as simple as that. They don't, by and large, believe what they are taught, but they also don't know what to believe.


It's a pretty sad situation regardless...I am curious though as to what the North Korean olympians think when they are at the olympics. I mean, are they scowling at everyone because we're evil, are they seeing London and realizing they live in an amazingly shiatty country? It would be interesting to have a conversation with one of them.
 
2012-08-05 06:03:14 AM
Does the fridge come with electricity?
 
2012-08-05 11:49:10 PM
Now if only they had something to put in their new fridges.
 
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