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2012-08-03 02:49:31 PM  
I'm fairly certain he's not allowed to do that without permission.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-03 02:54:43 PM  

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain he's not allowed to do that without permission.


There is no law against it, but there may be some sort of confidentiality agreement.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-03 02:58:36 PM  
The interesting point is that Romney has released his returns.

If McCain's staffers have seen them and there is something hot in them, then Reid (and every politico in Washington) probably knows exactly what's in them.
 
2012-08-03 03:23:40 PM  
Is McCain a Bain investor?

As Bash told the show's host, Anderson Cooper:

"I did speak to one source who is very close to Senator Reid who claims to also know who the Bain investor is that Reid spoke with, and insists that it is a credible person and this person if we knew the name we would understand they would have the authority and the ability to know about Romney's tax returns."

That would be brutal.
 
2012-08-03 03:29:55 PM  
i46.tinypic.com

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.
 
2012-08-03 03:33:46 PM  
So, does "returner" have a nice ring to it?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-03 03:47:12 PM  

make me some tea: So, does "returner" have a nice ring to it?


What did they call the people who thought that John Edwards had a secret love child with a campaign staffer?

I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate? Maybe they fear the damage that will be done if it comes out later.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Edwards had been elected and then the scandal broke?
 
2012-08-03 04:03:02 PM  

vpb: make me some tea: So, does "returner" have a nice ring to it?

What did they call the people who thought that John Edwards had a secret love child with a campaign staffer?

I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate? Maybe they fear the damage that will be done if it comes out later.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Edwards had been elected and then the scandal broke?


Oh yeah, that would've been a mess. And it would've come out, for sure.
 
2012-08-03 04:03:12 PM  

vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?


I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.
 
2012-08-03 04:24:19 PM  

vpb:

Can you imagine what would have happened if Edwards had been elected and then the scandal broke?


Yeah, Congress would have refused to cooperate on everything and then blamed it on Edwards. Wait a second . . .
 
2012-08-03 04:24:26 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?

I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.


Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?
 
2012-08-03 04:31:19 PM  

MacEnvy: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?

I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.

Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?


For baseless speculation purposes I'm going with this.
 
2012-08-03 04:59:19 PM  

dugitman: MacEnvy: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?

I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.

Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?

For baseless speculation purposes I'm going with this.


Possibly, but it seems like such an arcane matter to be so tight lipped about.
 
2012-08-03 05:13:09 PM  

vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate? Maybe they fear the damage that will be done if it comes out later.


The party could be trying to use it as a mulligan for the primary.
 
2012-08-03 05:16:18 PM  

FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 746x102]

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.


My Fark ads are derptastic.

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2012-08-03 05:17:49 PM  
Oh, leave poor Johnny alone. Hasn't he suffered enough?
 
2012-08-03 05:18:29 PM  
That would be highly improper. Besides, half the operation is cowing Romney.
 
2012-08-03 05:19:50 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dugitman: MacEnvy: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?

I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.

Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?

For baseless speculation purposes I'm going with this.

Possibly, but it seems like such an arcane matter to be so tight lipped about.


I'm assuming that not only did he not pay a penny in federal income taxes, but he probably got a 5- or 6-figure refund on at least one of the returns McCain has seen. The ensuing sh*tstorm from a revelation that hundred-millionaire Romney got more money from tax refunds than most non-millionaire Americans make in a year from actually working would be legendary.

/in addition to the whole "amnesty for Swiss bank accounts" thing
 
2012-08-03 05:20:32 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Possibly, but it seems like such an arcane matter to be so tight lipped about.


What's arcane about it? He cheated on his taxes by hiding his money in Swiss bank accounts, and when Obama made a one-time-only offer that you could pay back your taxes & interest in return for not getting prosecuted, Romney took advantage of it.

(I don't give credit to Obama for UBS opening its books to us, or at least not more credit than Bush. But the amnesty thing was all Obama, and was a really good idea).
 
2012-08-03 05:21:51 PM  
He come the Taxers!!!

No, The Releasers!!!
 
2012-08-03 05:22:04 PM  

qorkfiend: FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 746x102]

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.

My Fark ads are derptastic.

"The real record at Bain Capital: Find out the truth"
"Sign the right-to-work petition Obama fears"
"Nan Hayworth for Congress - Committed to lowering taxes"
"Who will be Romney's VP? Vote now!"


My Fark ads are incredibly, amazingly, spectacularly and almost unbelievably.... non-existent.
 
2012-08-03 05:22:57 PM  
Carl Gibson

Co-Founder, US Uncut


Sheesh, everybody has an advocacy organization this days...
 
2012-08-03 05:25:03 PM  

King Something: qorkfiend: FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 746x102]

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.

My Fark ads are derptastic.

"The real record at Bain Capital: Find out the truth"
"Sign the right-to-work petition Obama fears"
"Nan Hayworth for Congress - Committed to lowering taxes"
"Who will be Romney's VP? Vote now!"

My Fark ads are incredibly, amazingly, spectacularly and almost unbelievably.... non-existent.


Oh, I know. Letting the ads run is my contribution to the site since I don't have TF. It's also highly amusing to see what the Google algorithms think of me.
 
2012-08-03 05:25:31 PM  
McCain doesn't have the 2009 returns. That's where the best shiat is. Romney will lose rather than release his 2009 returns.

SWISS. TAX. AMNESTY.
 
2012-08-03 05:25:32 PM  

FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 746x102]

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.


He decided to focus immigration efforts on illegal immigrants that actually cause problems, rather than children who were brought over without having any say in the matter, or people who've led constructive lives. The MONSTER.
 
2012-08-03 05:26:43 PM  

qorkfiend: FlashHarry: [i46.tinypic.com image 746x102]

ok, wtf is this banner ad on this page? when did obama "grant amnesty?"

god, i can just hear the sounds of a million cheeto-stained fingers mashing their spittle-flecked mice to click on that little ad.

My Fark ads are derptastic.

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"Sign the right-to-work petition Obama fears"
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"Who will be Romney's VP? Vote now!"


Soon Fark Ads will rival WND for derp

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2012-08-03 05:27:27 PM  

make me some tea: So, does "returner" have a nice ring to it?


www.vgmpf.com
 
2012-08-03 05:27:50 PM  

qorkfiend: Oh, I know. Letting the ads run is my contribution to the site since I don't have TF. It's also highly amusing to see what the Google algorithms think of me.


I think something's wrong with my browser. No matter how many times I reload Fark pages I can't get the full loop on the .gif with the Canada volleyball players making out. :-(
 
2012-08-03 05:28:30 PM  

MacEnvy: Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?


Let's assume its that he paid no taxes for 10 years and everyone finds out about it now. The Republican party may well say "There's no way this turkey is going to get elected now. Let's go with someone else."

Romey's holding out until after the convention in Tampa.

At some point, you know someone will spill the beans.
 
2012-08-03 05:30:43 PM  

dofus: MacEnvy: Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?

Let's assume its that he paid no taxes for 10 years and everyone finds out about it now. The Republican party may well say "There's no way this turkey is going to get elected now. Let's go with someone else."

Romey's holding out until after the convention in Tampa.

At some point, you know someone will spill the beans.


I think if anyone knows what's in the actual returns, it's the RNC. It's highly unlikely McCain or his staffers would refuse to hand them over if the RNC asked for them.
 
2012-08-03 05:40:34 PM  
I don't think there's anything illegal or campaign-ending in those tax returns, though he probably paid such a low rate and has so many exemptions that it will look bad. Rather, I think Romney has just dug in his heels and is being obstinate. It's the typical behavior of someone who has never had to answer to anyone or sacrifice anything. He's a spoiled rich kid who wants his way.
 
2012-08-03 05:41:05 PM  
Jesus. All McCain should be doing is traveling around the country speaking to Boy Scouts and Veterans groups.

Relax dude. It is still possible to salvage much of your reputation. Stay out of this shiat.
 
2012-08-03 05:41:12 PM  

saintstryfe: make me some tea: So, does "returner" have a nice ring to it?

[www.vgmpf.com image 256x223]


Does that mean Joe Biden is going to unseal the Warring Triad and destroy the world?
 
2012-08-03 05:41:56 PM  
Personally, I hope that, in addition to amnesty, it's all about the fact that he lied to his church to save a few million on tithing.

/and then watch the religious right tell me how his lying to his church is OK.
 
2012-08-03 05:42:12 PM  

Loucifer: McCain doesn't have the 2009 returns. That's where the best shiat is. Romney will lose rather than release his 2009 returns.

SWISS. TAX. AMNESTY.


i'm guessing that's it.

though it makes you wonder how he thought he could run.
 
2012-08-03 05:43:53 PM  
That's not good enough. I want to see them including 2009 where he could of taken his IRS cheating amnesty.
 
2012-08-03 05:45:34 PM  
McCain's silence is indeed deafening, although I don't think it would be kosher for him to release Romney's tax records, a simple "I've seen his tax records and he has paid taxes for the last ten years " would do the trick. It would seem to be in the Romney campaign's best interest to roll out McCain to say just that, and yet they don't.Hmmmmm.
 
2012-08-03 05:45:44 PM  

FlashHarry:
though it makes you wonder how he thought he could run.


Never underestimate the arrogance of a politician, (R) or (D).
 
2012-08-03 05:46:21 PM  
While it's not surprising that people inside McCain's 2008 campaign and inside the RNC aren't saying anything negative about Romney's taxes, it's telling that they aren't saying ANYTHING AT ALL. Where is McCain or an insider saying "I saw his returns during the '08 vetting process, and he paid TONS of taxes!"?
 
2012-08-03 05:47:04 PM  
ezkool.com
 
2012-08-03 05:47:56 PM  
The Obama campaign either has the actual returns or knows all the relevant information. It's no accident that they are just giving Romney a little more line every couple weeks until he really hooks himself.
 
2012-08-03 05:47:57 PM  

Loucifer: McCain doesn't have the 2009 returns. That's where the best shiat is. Romney will lose rather than release his 2009 returns.

SWISS. TAX. AMNESTY.


And that's probably the most pleasant part of the bad shiat.
 
2012-08-03 05:49:18 PM  

Loucifer: Romney will lose rather than release his 2009 returns.

SWISS. TAX. AMNESTY.



Then he'll just lose, because even without releasing the returns, Obama and Reid and the rest of the Democrats can speculate wildly. Rmoney is effed.
 
2012-08-03 05:50:19 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: While it's not surprising that people inside McCain's 2008 campaign and inside the RNC aren't saying anything negative about Romney's taxes, it's telling that they aren't saying ANYTHING AT ALL. Where is McCain or an insider saying "I saw his returns during the '08 vetting process, and he paid TONS of taxes!"?


Because Reid would then out McCain as the Bain Capital investor who called him up at his office and spilled it on Mitt.

And out on a further limb, McCain asked Reid to go public with it.


/fits the scenario
 
2012-08-03 05:50:20 PM  
llwproductions.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-03 05:51:55 PM  

coco ebert: I don't think there's anything illegal or campaign-ending in those tax returns, though he probably paid such a low rate and has so many exemptions that it will look bad. Rather, I think Romney has just dug in his heels and is being obstinate. It's the typical behavior of someone who has never had to answer to anyone or sacrifice anything. He's a spoiled rich kid who wants his way.


Agree 100%.

There is simply a limit to what's in a tax return. It's not like he molested a boy and a record of that is in a tax return.
 
2012-08-03 05:53:06 PM  

Le Bomb Suprize: The Obama campaign either has the actual returns or knows all the relevant information. It's no accident that they are just giving Romney a little more line every couple weeks until he really hooks himself.



I don't think Reid would say something so over-the-top and easily discredited by releasing the returns, if it wasn't at least mostly true. Too much blowback if Rmoney released the returns now and made Reid look like a bold liar. I don't think anyone would make the strategic decision that Reid has unless they already had a pretty good idea what was in there.

I would speculate that in high level DC political circles, the contents of Rmoney's tax returns are the worst kept secret in town.
 
2012-08-03 05:54:17 PM  

thornhill: coco ebert: I don't think there's anything illegal or campaign-ending in those tax returns, though he probably paid such a low rate and has so many exemptions that it will look bad. Rather, I think Romney has just dug in his heels and is being obstinate. It's the typical behavior of someone who has never had to answer to anyone or sacrifice anything. He's a spoiled rich kid who wants his way.

Agree 100%.

There is simply a limit to what's in a tax return. It's not like he molested a boy and a record of that is in a tax return.


The 2009 return could show he took amnesty from having ILLEGAL tax shelters. I think that would end his run for president.

Did Mitt Romney Take the 2009 Swiss Bank Account Amnesty
 
2012-08-03 05:55:00 PM  

thornhill: There is simply a limit to what's in a tax return. It's not like he molested a boy and a record of that is in a tax return.


I'm afraid that we may not ever know for sure.
 
2012-08-03 06:01:10 PM  

dugitman: MacEnvy: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I wonder if that's why so many Republicans are publicly calling for Romney to release his returns, even though they normally unite behind the party's candidate?

I don't think there are that many, but if there were, it's probably best to release them as soon as possible so that they have maximum time for damage control.

Honestly, though, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what could possibly be so bad that he's so reluctant to release them. At this point, I can only assume that he deducted an abortion for an Mexican illegal immigrant as a religious contribution.

Seriously. What could possibly be worse than dragging out weeks and weeks of not being able to give a reason? People are obviously going to assume the worst ... so what the hell is actually in there that he's so terrified of?

For baseless speculation purposes I'm going with this.(link to article about Swiss banks and Tax Amnesty)


IT WAS A TRAP1!!11
Curse that Obama and his Time Machine!!!!
 
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