magusdevil: stiletto_the_wise: mrshowrules: stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!If the engineering faculty was hiding child rape, that would be OK.No, actually it wouldn't be OK. What ever happened to punishing the bad people?If your boss was raping kids, and his boss covered it up, should they fire you and all your co-workers to punish the company? Does that sound right?Is that what happened? Those kids all lost their college degrees? My god, that's horrible.
stiletto_the_wise: moralpanic: Do you know what an 8 or 9 year old boy looks like? Google it if you can't appreciate the size of a boy that young. Now imagine a large adult football coach raping him. There were witnesses, there were people that spoke out, and it was all covered up to the very top.I agree, it's terrible, and the people who covered it up should spend the rest of their lives in jail as far as I'm concerned.
Weaver95: great - now the GOP is going to have to take a pro-pedophila stance. as a rule, if Obama is in favor of something, the Republicans are against it. in this case, Obama is against pedo rape, which means the GOP have to be in favor of it.
downstairs: Also, I don't know how voting works when you're out of state in college (I went to a school in the state I lived)... do most of these kids even vote in Pennsylvania?
stiletto_the_wise: At least I can spell "administration."
stiletto_the_wise: Not because a rogue staffmember was raping kids in one of the buildings. Leave that to the criminal justice system.
stiletto_the_wise: For a start, how about punishing the people who were actually covering up kiddie rape?
stiletto_the_wise: Weaver95: don't cover up kiddie rape. it's bad and bad things happen to you when you eventually get caught.It would be nice if the actual people who covered up kiddie rape were punished, instead of random past and future student athletes.
stiletto_the_wise: mrshowrules: You are using bad analogies and comparisons because the reality is much harder to defend. The institution is be punished because it failed to fire/charge the bad people.They're trying to punish an inanimate object ("The Institution") but all of the effects are falling squarely on past, current, and future student athletes, ALL of whom had nothing to do with the crime. It's hard to argue that they're not going directly after the students. Sure, vacating wins is just a symbolic punishment, but it's still hitting the wrong people. Killing scholarships and the football program for a bit is just petty, and totally mis-targeted.
GoldSpider: HighOnCraic: Is there a way to punish the people running the program without punishing the players?Oh I dunno, maybe prosecute the people running the program and leave the players out of it?
Krymson Tyde: How long until GOP spokespeople come out in opposition of Obama's stance on this?
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your butthurt is nothing compared to that of those kids, subby
magusdevil: shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys had a consensual relationship with another adult.The fact that you don't know the difference between a consensual relationship and rape scares the shiat out of me.
Weaver95: Virulency: my complaint about this scandal is, what about every athlete and every supporter for all the teams that played for those years... you just wiped their achievement as well and they were innocent/unknowing of it... better we sacrifice all the innocent players to get that one guilty guy...don't cover up kiddie rape. it's bad and bad things happen to you when you eventually get caught.
Virulency: my complaint about this scandal is, what about every athlete and every supporter for all the teams that played for those years... you just wiped their achievement as well and they were innocent/unknowing of it... better we sacrifice all the innocent players to get that one guilty guy...
Virulency: you just wiped their achievement as well and they were innocent/unknowing of it... better we sacrifice all the innocent players to get that one guilty guy...
Rapmaster2000: Mitt believes the sanctions were inappropriate, but appropriate.
Bag of Hammers: OK GOP, you're against Gay Marriage but for Child Molestation? WTF?
Coco LaFemme: Well, we already know that Penn State alum Rick Santorum thinks the sanctions were wrong, and that he defends Joe Paterno, so the bar that has been set for politicians re: the Penn State scandal is, "Don't be like Rick Santorum." Doesn't take much effort, but I applaud the President for recognizing that enabling the raping of children should be punished.
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