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2012-08-03 08:31:45 PM
Nobody can carry it, it has an awful panhandle.
 
2012-08-03 08:34:33 PM

Mrtraveler01: gimmegimme: pederasts

What's a pederast?


Remember, friend, you asked:

pederast: one who practices anal intercourse especially with a boy

Origin of PEDERAST:
Greek paiderastēs, literally, lover of boys, from paid- ped- + erastēs lover, from erasthai to love - more at eros
First Known Use: circa 1736


Rhymes with PEDERAST:
acid-fast, captain's mast, chiliast, cineast, colorfast, flabbergast, fore-topmast, hard-and-fast, main-topmast, mizzenmast, opencast

See for yourself. The definition, of course. Not actual pederasty.
 
2012-08-03 08:36:00 PM

Weaver95: well...no. Pennsylvania just recently threw a Catholic priest into a jail cell because of covering up kiddie rape.


Coincidence. He was really thrown in a jail cell because of bribes from PA's private prisons.
 
2012-08-03 08:52:09 PM
Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys.
 
2012-08-03 08:52:31 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Weaver95: well...no. Pennsylvania just recently threw a Catholic priest into a jail cell because of covering up kiddie rape.

Coincidence. He was really thrown in a jail cell because of bribes from PA's private prisons.


mafiatoday.com

Hi. I'm Mark Ciavarella. I was once a judge in Pennsylvania who would send kids to a private prison for months on end because they, say, threw a cooked steak at their stepfather. I was obviously accepting bribes from the folks who run the private prisons who also donate money to politicians in order to secure the contracts. I am a Republican. I am the 99%.
 
2012-08-03 08:54:42 PM

shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys.


You have a rich fantasy life.
 
2012-08-03 08:55:23 PM

gimmegimme: Weaver95: great - now the GOP is going to have to take a pro-pedophila stance. as a rule, if Obama is in favor of something, the Republicans are against it. in this case, Obama is against pedo rape, which means the GOP have to be in favor of it.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x208]

My friends, the Democrat Party claims to be the party of acceptance and openness, but those on the left would deny you the right to make love to a pre-teen boy in a public shower. Are you going to stand for the government telling you what to do?


Now, now don't...give...Romney...any ideas....

Oh fark it, even if he does do this it'll just prove he's phoning this race in.
 
2012-08-03 09:03:50 PM

Weaver95: don't cover up kiddie rape. it's bad and bad things happen to you when you eventually get caught.


It would be nice if the actual people who covered up kiddie rape were punished, instead of random past and future student athletes.
 
2012-08-03 09:05:21 PM

gimmegimme: Mrtraveler01: gimmegimme: pederasts

What's a pederast?

Remember, friend, you asked:

pederast: one who practices anal intercourse especially with a boy

Origin of PEDERAST:
Greek paiderastēs, literally, lover of boys, from paid- ped- + erastēs lover, from erasthai to love - more at eros
First Known Use: circa 1736


Rhymes with PEDERAST:
acid-fast, captain's mast, chiliast, cineast, colorfast, flabbergast, fore-topmast, hard-and-fast, main-topmast, mizzenmast, opencast

See for yourself. The definition, of course. Not actual pederasty.


I was trying to make a Big Lebowski reference but I think I botched the quote. :P
 
2012-08-03 09:07:29 PM

shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys.


It's as though trolls don't realize that people are reading their drivel on the internet, where facts can be looked up fairly quickly.

On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee recommended that Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) be reprimanded for having engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages.[1] Washington, D.C., law specifies an age of consent of 16, meaning that the relationships were legal;[2] however the committee felt "any sexual relationship between a member of the House of Representatives and a congressional page, or any sexual advance by a member to a page, represents a serious breach of duty." The Congressional Report found that in 1980, a year after entering office, Crane had sex four or five times at his suburban apartment with a female page and in 1973, the year he entered office, Studds invited a male page, who testified he felt no ill will towards Studds, to his Georgetown apartment and later on a two-week trip to Portugal. Both representatives admitted to the charges.[3]

On July 20, 1983, the House voted by a supermajority to revise the reprimand recommendation to censure, a more extreme measure. Censure had never previously been used in a case of sexual misconduct. The motion to censure the two House members was introduced by Rep. Robert H. Michel (R-IL), the Republican House Minority Leader. Aides later said that Michel proposed this bill to head off a move by Republicans to expel the two legislators.[4] Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) was one of the leaders of the calls for the expulsion of Crane and Studds.[5]

Now, which party controlled 62.5% of the House of Representatives that year?


/The fact that Newt was leading the charge is my favorite part of the story.
 
2012-08-03 09:08:25 PM
Yep, Romney's got the pro-pedo vote sewn up!
 
2012-08-03 09:12:07 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Weaver95: don't cover up kiddie rape. it's bad and bad things happen to you when you eventually get caught.

It would be nice if the actual people who covered up kiddie rape were punished, instead of random past and future student athletes.


What. If you went there, you no longer have the memories of playing a game?

And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?
 
2012-08-03 09:15:35 PM

Marshal805: /Burn in hell, Paterno. You farking coward.


Paterno Sandusky was blowing Sandusky Paterno in the off-season. (Like he did to at least one college-age teen...)

/and people wonder why Paterno said nothing...
//the more you know
///lemon party dot org, anyone?
 
2012-08-03 09:17:13 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?


and...you can't get traction with your claims because you said 'something' to the administration, and they promised to look into it...and then you never heard from them again, Sandusky stopped calling you, and you either graduated or dropped out of Penn State from sheer grief?
 
2012-08-03 09:21:34 PM

shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys had a consensual relationship with another adult.


The fact that you don't know the difference between a consensual relationship and rape scares the shiat out of me.
 
2012-08-03 09:24:24 PM

Mrtraveler01: What we're all forgetting here is that now teams like Illinois and Minnesota have a team it can look down on now.


Indiana and Purdue have far less to look forward to than the Illini; at least most of them can mark it as a 'W'. Maybe this humbles PSU into playing Pitt again.

/JoePa essentially cancelled that rivalry like a coward.
 
2012-08-03 09:27:41 PM

magusdevil: shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys had a consensual relationship with another adult.

The fact that you don't know the difference between a consensual relationship and rape scares the shiat out of me.


I think he knows the difference, but tried to get away with a lie.

/Some of us are in that small demographic of people who are old enough to remember the 80s but no so old that we've forgotten things that happened back then.
 
2012-08-03 09:28:46 PM

magusdevil: shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys had a consensual relationship with another adult.

The fact that you don't know the difference between a consensual relationship and rape scares the shiat out of me.


But the fact that he's obsessing over an act of man-love that happened over 30 years ago kind of amuses me.
 
2012-08-03 09:29:52 PM

gingerjet: Seabon: I live in PA. I haven't heard anyone complain that the sanctions were too tough. Not even PSU.

I'm sure this guy has an opinion on that.

[thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com image 850x635]

/hot like the fork-cliff used to carry away the statue


Heh. Guy looks like a reject from It's Always Sunny. I'm really hoping they do an episode on this.
 
2012-08-03 09:30:42 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Your butthurt is nothing compared to that of those kids, subby


You are bad person and you should feel bad.
 
2012-08-03 09:39:58 PM

Krymson Tyde: How long until GOP spokespeople come out in opposition of Obama's stance on this?


Santorum already came out in support of the Penn State football program and against the boys who were abused. IIRC, he called Paterno a "victim".
 
2012-08-03 09:45:08 PM

Seabon: I live in PA. I haven't heard anyone complain that the sanctions were too tough. Not even PSU.


The only problem I have is with vacating the wins. That's only appropriate as a punishment for cheating by the team/players.
 
2012-08-03 09:45:27 PM

MisterRonbo: Unlike, say, Santorum.


Santorum is a homosexual homophobe, absolutely no doubt in my mind. He is so sexually aroused at the thought of homosexual mansecks that it's on his mind constantly, and he brings it up every opportunity he can.

/Santorum footjob in airport bathroom in 5...4...3...
//jesus was homosexual, promoted peacefulness with homosexuals, was executed for it
///OHHHHH it all makes sense now, traveling with 12 dudes...
 
2012-08-03 09:46:50 PM

GoldSpider: The only problem I have is with vacating the wins. That's only appropriate as a punishment for cheating by the team/players.


they're not cheating the players, they're cheating the school. If those kids are that DETERMINED to play post-season college football... they can transfer to another school.

/i just shot my load all over your argument, what are you gonna do about it?
 
2012-08-03 09:48:13 PM

HighOnCraic: magusdevil: shotglasss: Gotta remind you all again? The Democrats gave Gerry Studds a standing O after he raped young boys had a consensual relationship with another adult.

The fact that you don't know the difference between a consensual relationship and rape scares the shiat out of me.

I think he knows the difference, but tried to get away with a lie.

/Some of us are in that small demographic of people who are old enough to remember the 80s but no so old that we've forgotten things that happened back then.


Yeah, but old folks are all conservative Tea Baggers. I read it on Fark.
 
2012-08-03 09:50:43 PM

urban.derelict: GoldSpider: The only problem I have is with vacating the wins. That's only appropriate as a punishment for cheating by the team/players.

they're not cheating the players, they're cheating the school. If those kids are that DETERMINED to play post-season college football... they can transfer to another school.

/i just shot my load all over your argument, what are you gonna do about it?


If that's all you've got, I'd see a doctor.
 
2012-08-03 09:50:56 PM

Gwendolyn: Dead for Tax Reasons: that part of the state isn't going to vote for him anyway. he just has to suck up to Pitt, Penn and the other schools in the cities

Most of the students at Penn State are from Philadelphia or Pittsburgh and the surrounding suburbs. There are 40,000+ kids there and that kind of number does not exclusively come from central PA. We used to have a annual touch football game between the Philly and Pittsburgh kids to decide if soft drinks would be called soda or pop for the year.


Really??? That's awesome. I never heard of such a thing during my time up here
/BS '09, MS '11, PhD '??
//Soda > pop
 
2012-08-03 09:52:58 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?


Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!
 
2012-08-03 10:07:02 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?

Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!


If the engineering faculty was hiding child rape, that would be OK.
 
2012-08-03 10:08:42 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?

Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!


So you're telling me the head of the engineering department was diddling kids, too? How come that's not in the news?
 
2012-08-03 10:09:40 PM

urban.derelict: they're not cheating the players, they're cheating the school. If those kids are that DETERMINED to play post-season college football... they can transfer to another school.

/i just shot my load all over your argument, what are you gonna do about it?


No it punishes the players who played in those wins that were vacated.

How would you feel if someone tried to tell you the work you did over the past 13 years didn't happen and didn't count because your boss was a crooked?
 
2012-08-03 10:12:41 PM

GoldSpider: urban.derelict: they're not cheating the players, they're cheating the school. If those kids are that DETERMINED to play post-season college football... they can transfer to another school.

/i just shot my load all over your argument, what are you gonna do about it?

No it punishes the players who played in those wins that were vacated.

How would you feel if someone tried to tell you the work you did over the past 13 years didn't happen and didn't count because your boss was a crooked?


I'd probably be more concerned about the fact that my boss was a pedophile, but I've got weird priorities like that.
 
2012-08-03 10:12:51 PM

mrshowrules: stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?

Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!

If the engineering faculty was hiding child rape, that would be OK.


No, actually it wouldn't be OK. What ever happened to punishing the bad people?

If your boss was raping kids, and his boss covered it up, should they fire you and all your co-workers to punish the company? Does that sound right?
 
2012-08-03 10:14:04 PM

magusdevil: I'd probably be more concerned about the fact that my boss was a pedophile, but I've got weird priorities like that.


Do you routinely punish yourself for the wrongdoings of others? There's got to be a clinical name for that kind of defect...
 
2012-08-03 10:14:47 PM

stiletto_the_wise: mrshowrules: stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?

Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!

If the engineering faculty was hiding child rape, that would be OK.

No, actually it wouldn't be OK. What ever happened to punishing the bad people?

If your boss was raping kids, and his boss covered it up, should they fire you and all your co-workers to punish the company? Does that sound right?


Is that what happened? Those kids all lost their college degrees? My god, that's horrible.
 
2012-08-03 10:15:58 PM

magusdevil: So you're telling me the head of the engineering department was diddling kids, too? How come that's not in the news?


It doesn't matter. KIDDIE RAPE. Punish everyone, right?!
 
2012-08-03 10:16:48 PM

GoldSpider: magusdevil: I'd probably be more concerned about the fact that my boss was a pedophile, but I've got weird priorities like that.

Do you routinely punish yourself for the wrongdoings of others? There's got to be a clinical name for that kind of defect...


I read your posts, that feels like I'm being punished for your bad logic.
 
2012-08-03 10:17:38 PM

stiletto_the_wise: magusdevil: So you're telling me the head of the engineering department was diddling kids, too? How come that's not in the news?

It doesn't matter. KIDDIE RAPE. Punish everyone, right?!


You're solution? KIDDIE RAPE. Slap some wrists, right?
 
2012-08-03 10:18:52 PM

magusdevil: I read your posts, that feels like I'm being punished for your bad logic.


I think Goldspider should lose any college scholarships he might have, because someone, somewhere, unrelated to him, is RAPING KIDS. Won't someone think of the kids?
 
2012-08-03 10:18:55 PM

Nadie_AZ: FlashHarry: last i checked, he was up 11 points in pennsylvania.

so long as the GOP voter suppression scheme is stopped by the courts (and it looks as if it will), obama will carry PA.

Dusk-You-n-Me: Link

Oh I wish Obama would carry one of the 3 Mormon States: Arizona, Utah or Idaho. It's a dream, but it'd be so awesome.


Arizona and Idaho are "Mormon" states too now?
 
2012-08-03 10:19:35 PM

magusdevil: You're solution? KIDDIE RAPE. Slap some wrists, right?


For a start, how about punishing the people who were actually covering up kiddie rape?
 
2012-08-03 10:20:20 PM

stiletto_the_wise: magusdevil: I read your posts, that feels like I'm being punished for your bad logic.

I think Goldspider should lose any college scholarships he might have, because someone, somewhere, unrelated to him, is RAPING KIDS. Won't someone think of the kids?


What do you think should've been the appropriate response from the NCAA?
 
2012-08-03 10:20:40 PM

magusdevil: You're solution? KIDDIE RAPE. Slap some wrists, right?


Sending a few random alumni to jail ought to help too. They were THERE*!!!

* - In the 16802 zip code
 
2012-08-03 10:20:57 PM

magusdevil: Is that what happened? Those kids all lost their college degrees? My god, that's horrible.


Nothing should happen to those students. You know why? Because none of them (that we know) raped anyone or covered up rape.
 
2012-08-03 10:21:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: What do you think should've been the appropriate response from the NCAA?


They should have invaded Iraq. Would have made as much sense as withdrawing scholarships from unrelated students.
 
2012-08-03 10:21:53 PM

GoldSpider: urban.derelict: they're not cheating the players, they're cheating the school. If those kids are that DETERMINED to play post-season college football... they can transfer to another school.

/i just shot my load all over your argument, what are you gonna do about it?

No it punishes the players who played in those wins that were vacated.

How would you feel if someone tried to tell you the work you did over the past 13 years didn't happen and didn't count because your boss was a crooked?


Depending on where you work, if your boss covers up a horrible crime and it becomes public, it will have a bad affect on the company you work for; people may stop buying your products or doing business with your company. It may not be your fault, but you will feel the consequences.

Is there a way to punish the people running the program without punishing the players?
 
2012-08-03 10:23:40 PM

Weaver95: great - now the GOP is going to have to take a pro-pedophila stance. as a rule, if Obama is in favor of something, the Republicans are against it. in this case, Obama is against pedo rape, which means the GOP have to be in favor of it.


Exactly what I was thinking.
 
2012-08-03 10:23:42 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Mrtraveler01: What do you think should've been the appropriate response from the NCAA?

They should have invaded Iraq. Would have made as much sense as withdrawing scholarships from unrelated students.


It's punishing the school not the students. That's why a few of them are bailing Penn State for greener pastures.

Sorry but I don't feel sorry for the football program. shiat like this requires more than a slap on the wrist.
 
2012-08-03 10:24:05 PM

HighOnCraic: Is there a way to punish the people running the program without punishing the players?


Oh I dunno, maybe prosecute the people running the program and leave the players out of it?
 
2012-08-03 10:25:58 PM

magusdevil: stiletto_the_wise: mrshowrules: stiletto_the_wise: Lenny_da_Hog: And if you're a "future" athlete, you can't go to a different school if playing a game is so important to you?

Why didn't they shut down the Engineering classes too? That would REALLY punish the University. I mean, if people wanted to study Engineering, they can just go to a different school after all.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DEFEND KIDDIE RAPE, DO YOU? SHUT DOWN ENGINEERING!

If the engineering faculty was hiding child rape, that would be OK.

No, actually it wouldn't be OK. What ever happened to punishing the bad people?

If your boss was raping kids, and his boss covered it up, should they fire you and all your co-workers to punish the company? Does that sound right?

Is that what happened? Those kids all lost their college degrees? My god, that's horrible.


You are using bad analogies and comparisons because the reality is much harder to defend. The institution is be punished because it failed to fire/charge the bad people. Sports was put before the safety of children. Children's safety was in fact sacrificed to protect the institution. The institution should be punished and if people suffer because of their connection to the institute that is unfortunate but could have been prevented by the institution itself.

If I murder someone and go to prison, my wife and kids will suffer horribly but that is the way the cookie crumbles. It was my responsibility. Penn State failed in its responsibility and are directly responsible for all the pain and suffering.
 
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