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(Daily Kos)   Mitt Romney says that President Obama forced him to come up with a tax plan that will raise taxes on the middle class and poor. Seriously. Stop laughing -- I'm not kidding. That's what he said   (dailykos.com) divider line 113
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2012-08-03 01:40:14 PM
Actually, plausible on the face of it. Since Romney is incapable of doing anything other than defensively reacting to Obama.

And speaking of "defense" didn't Simspon-Bowles call for Defense cuts?

Regardless, good luck with that argument, Candidate Romney. Bowles says you're full of crap.

Romney is "partly right and partly wrong" when he says he can cut tax rates by 20 percent and make up the money by curtailing tax breaks, Bowles said on Bloomberg Television's "Conversations with Judy Woodruff," airing this weekend.

"One area that Governor Romney is wrong is you can't just affect the top 15 percent" of Americans, said Bowles, whose bipartisan plan would cut spending and raise taxes. "It's just not enough money there in getting rid of the tax expenditures that only affect the upper-income people. You're going to have to affect people down through the brackets."


Source

And good luck selling your Simpson-Bowles-like plan to conservatives.

Superpositon powers, activate!
 
2012-08-03 02:35:57 PM
That's a stretch, unless my coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
 
2012-08-03 03:00:22 PM
In case some of you haven't been paying attention:

1. Raising taxes on the middle class = sound fiscal policy
2. Raising taxes on the rich = class warfare
 
2012-08-03 03:01:53 PM
The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.
 
2012-08-03 03:35:57 PM

Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.


This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.
 
2012-08-03 03:40:35 PM

Coco LaFemme: This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history.


I dunno, I think McCain could give Romney a run for his money.
There is the McCain Green Screen Rictus.
talkingpointsmemo.com
The frenetic response to the meltdown.
And Sarah Palin, for chrissakes.
And probably a lot more I've forgotten.
 
2012-08-03 03:41:09 PM

Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.


And yet he'll still most likely get ~45% of the vote
 
2012-08-03 03:47:35 PM

Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.


We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.
 
2012-08-03 03:52:33 PM

make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.


if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.
 
2012-08-03 04:00:23 PM

Weaver95: make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.

if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.


Oh, you know it.
 
2012-08-03 04:01:00 PM

Weaver95: make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.

if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.


Well, he definitely doesn't want a format where he could be asked anything involving details or facts. A simple question like "how much did you pay in taxes?" seems positively befuddling.
 
2012-08-03 04:01:05 PM
Obama is the Ernst Stavros Blofield of politics.
 
2012-08-03 04:01:48 PM

make me some tea: Weaver95: make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.

if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.

Oh, you know it.


Actually they're going to be in October. Link
 
2012-08-03 04:20:50 PM
Why even link to DailyKoss? They peddle such bullshiat. You don't have to stretch Romney's words to prove he shouldn't be elected.
 
2012-08-03 04:21:51 PM
Wish we could just nuke the Daily Koss to get rid of false equivalency and the "but but the far left..."
 
2012-08-03 04:22:13 PM
Fark Cons backs are already hurting from carrying all that water, and Mitt isnt helping!!
 
2012-08-03 04:23:34 PM

redmond24: Why even link to DailyKoss? They peddle such bullshiat. You don't have to stretch Romney's words to prove he shouldn't be elected.


You should dispute the bullshiat with facts.

What are you waiting for?
 
2012-08-03 04:24:00 PM
Ah, yes-- 3 green-lit Kos links.
I see someone parked the short bus in front of the computer lab again.
 
2012-08-03 04:24:52 PM

redmond24: Wish we could just nuke the Daily Koss to get rid of false equivalency and the "but but the far left..."


the first amendment is such a biatch, isn't it?
 
2012-08-03 04:24:52 PM
Does it even matter that he didn't say that?

I'm guessing it doesn't. Let's see how the thread progresses.
 
2012-08-03 04:25:54 PM
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OK guys, I know the Obama campaign has been hitting us hard on this new tax plan, but I have a great idea. Lets say that it's Obama's plan to begin with! That should work, right?

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Do it anyway.
 
2012-08-03 04:26:47 PM

Weaver95: redmond24: Wish we could just nuke the Daily Koss to get rid of false equivalency and the "but but the far left..."

the first amendment is such a biatch, isn't it?


Ah you must be a "kossak" or whatever they call themselves.

Obviously they have a right to suck, I'm just stating that they suck.
 
2012-08-03 04:27:19 PM

make me some tea: make me some tea: Weaver95: make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.

if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.

Oh, you know it.

Actually they're going to be in October. Link


FTLA:
October 16, 2012
Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy


I predict this to be the debate with the most lulz.
 
2012-08-03 04:28:36 PM

Summoner101: make me some tea: make me some tea: Weaver95: make me some tea: Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.

We had a hint that he was gonna blow this in the numerous Republican debates. He said really foolish and out-of-touch things there as well. I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.

if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.

Oh, you know it.

Actually they're going to be in October. Link

FTLA:
October 16, 2012
Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy

I predict this to be the debate with the most lulz.


God only knows why Romney agreed to that one.
 
2012-08-03 04:28:39 PM
It doesn't seem so much as he's blaming Obama as he's trying to claim that his tax plan mirrors one that comes from a bipartisan source when it has almost nothing in common with it. Less 'casting blame' than 'lying about the source to make myself look better'.
 
2012-08-03 04:29:21 PM

js34603: I'm guessing it doesn't.


No, it doesn't. Because what he did say was just as stupid, it just wasn't as funny.
 
2012-08-03 04:29:32 PM

NateGrey: redmond24: Why even link to DailyKoss? They peddle such bullshiat. You don't have to stretch Romney's words to prove he shouldn't be elected.

You should dispute the bullshiat with facts.

What are you waiting for?


Search the article for "Obama forced"

Done.

There's a reason Axelrod quipped that he'd just play the Republican debates verbatim. You don't have to stretch their words to call them out on their bullshiat the way this article and the headline does.

There are a million truths that hurt the republicans, no need to say lies.
 
2012-08-03 04:29:48 PM
Yeah, this one is a
www.chud.com

but it does look like Romney is trying to distance himself from himself again.
 
2012-08-03 04:30:04 PM
There are similarities to the Simpson-Bowles plan. S-B did away with real estate deductions and the like. S-B also closed some deductions for the rich as well plus cut DoD spending. S-B was also hated by pretty much everyone. So Romney is taking claim the Simpson-Bowles plan, making it worse then trying to sell it to the American people. I hope Romney's talking heads get a good night's sleep Saturday because they'll be busy trying to sell in on the Sunday morning talk shows.
 
2012-08-03 04:30:11 PM
Romney should be proud of his wealth and all that he has achieved.

Tell everyone you want to cut taxes for the rich and balance it by raising taxes on everyone else instead of trying to be sneaky and hide it.

If your reasoning is sound, people will support you.

/lol
 
2012-08-03 04:30:33 PM

Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.


And McCain had Palin. Romney is doing this all on his own. He is just Palin with balls.
 
2012-08-03 04:30:53 PM
It's like Romney's campaign is being run by Philosoraptor.
 
2012-08-03 04:31:00 PM

redmond24: Ah you must be a "kossak" or whatever they call themselves.

Obviously they have a right to suck, I'm just stating that they suck.


You're not very good at feigning ignorance. Whose sockpuppet account are you and why are you using it? Because you're trying to be funny or because you're a ridiculous right-wing hack and you're tired of people just ignoring your bullshiat as soon as they see your name?
 
2012-08-03 04:31:18 PM

redmond24: NateGrey: redmond24: Why even link to DailyKoss? They peddle such bullshiat. You don't have to stretch Romney's words to prove he shouldn't be elected.

You should dispute the bullshiat with facts.

What are you waiting for?

Search the article for "Obama forced"

Done.

There's a reason Axelrod quipped that he'd just play the Republican debates verbatim. You don't have to stretch their words to call them out on their bullshiat the way this article and the headline does.

There are a million truths that hurt the republicans, no need to say lies.


You realize that's a problem with the Fark headline and not the content of the linked article, right?
 
2012-08-03 04:35:04 PM
Why are mods greenlighting this stuff?

It's not like we can't find enough true material to amuse ourselves with regarding Mitt Romney, why go after trolltastic headlines?
 
2012-08-03 04:35:36 PM

redmond24: Weaver95: redmond24: Wish we could just nuke the Daily Koss to get rid of false equivalency and the "but but the far left..."

the first amendment is such a biatch, isn't it?

Ah you must be a "kossak" or whatever they call themselves.

Obviously they have a right to suck, I'm just stating that they suck.


why do you assume that anyone who mocks Romney is automatically a left wing liberal...?
 
2012-08-03 04:36:04 PM

redmond24: Search the article for "Obama forced"

Done.

There's a reason Axelrod quipped that he'd just play the Republican debates verbatim. You don't have to stretch their words to call them out on their bullshiat the way this article and the headline does.

There are a million truths that hurt the republicans, no need to say lies.


Wait, the Fark headline isnt accurate but you are upset at the Daily Kos...for everything.

Makes sense.
 
2012-08-03 04:38:26 PM

Weaver95:
if I were Romney, I'd avoid being in a live debate with Obama as long as I could. I'd also make sure to control the event as much as possible, making sure that any debate questions were known ahead of time and completely researched and had well practiced/rehearsed answers down pat well before the debates kicked off.


Yeah.... If that happened, I would totally want to see this happen for real.

/It's not like Chris Rock didn't predict one of his speeches.
 
2012-08-03 04:39:53 PM

Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.


I'm confused. Isn't Obama's campaign the attractive and successful one?

/I'm so very sorry.
 
2012-08-03 04:39:58 PM

Coco LaFemme: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

This might be, and I haven't been around for many, but this might be one of the worst-run campaigns in American history. There isn't a single aspect of this entire production that isn't complete clown shoes.


And his defenders blame the media for it all.
 
2012-08-03 04:40:29 PM
That's like when you were a kid and your older brother jovially walks up, grabs your hand, starts hitting you with your own hand, and saying "hey, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself!"
 
2012-08-03 04:41:33 PM
An oldie but a goodie (shortened):

Let's call it the Republicans' biatch-Slap theory of electoral politics.

It goes something like this.

One way -- perhaps the best way -- to demonstrate someone's lack of toughness or strength is to attack them and show they are either unwilling or unable to defend themselves -- thus the rough slang I used above. And that I think is a big part of what is happening here. Someone who can't or won't defend themselves certainly isn't someone you can depend upon to defend you.

Hitting someone and not having them hit back hurts the morale of that person's supporters, buoys the confidence of your own backers (particularly if many tend toward an authoritarian mindset) and tends to make the person who's receiving the hits into an object of contempt (even if also possibly also one of sympathy) in the eyes of the uncommitted.
 
2012-08-03 04:41:45 PM
So...Obama had a commission that recommended all sorts of stuff.
Obama didn't take their advice.
Romney built a tax plan off of it.

Regardless of whether what I said is true or not, it certainly seems like a reasonable thing to claim.
 
2012-08-03 04:41:56 PM

make me some tea: I predict his rating will sink quite a bit once he goes head to head with Obama.


I can't farking wait for this. Mitt is going to get crushed debating Obama.
 
2012-08-03 04:44:36 PM

NateGrey: Wait, the Fark headline isnt accurate but you are upset at the Daily Kos...for everything.

Makes sense.



That's how these idiots operate.

Find one false thing said by a Dem-leaning person/entity (in this case, subtard) that is universally rejected by both parties, and the GOP (or Fark Independents) does everything but throw a parade while conveniently ignoring the 1 million items of bullshiat that they say on a daily basis.

If only shame meant something in 21st century culture.
 
2012-08-03 04:45:24 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: So...Obama had a commission that recommended all sorts of stuff.
Obama didn't take their advice.
Romney built a tax plan off of it.

Regardless of whether what I said is true or not, it certainly seems like a reasonable thing to claim.


To characterize Bowles-Simpson as "Obama's commission" is stupid.

Obama did take their advice, actually; it was Congress, and specifically the House Republicans, who refused to enact Bowles-Simpson through legislation.
 
2012-08-03 04:45:43 PM
The more this stuff comes to light the more you have to ask yourself "How did Romney ever think he would get away with this crap?" Was he expecting the economic situation to be so bad a desperate populace would simply hand him the keys without looking into his background at all? Did he overestimate the percentage of racists who would never vote for Obama under any circumstance (of course with the concerted voter suppression efforts going on in various states, this may still pan out)? Or is he simply so clueless and entitled he never dreamed anyone would check his facts or investigate his background? It speaks to the delusionality of the repub Party as a whole that they failed to pick up on this; not the paranoid right wing, which correctly pegged Romney as a loser but incorrectly concluded that Bachman, Paul, Santorum et al were reasonable substitutes, but the wealthy Party elite who are just looking to make sure their privileged existence is not inconvenienced in any way. They could have supported Huntsman or one of the other sensible candidates who were pushed out early by radical derp, but decided to go with one of their own, figuring in the final analysis they could simply buy the election. That may still occur; but as Romney's flaws become more and more glaringly apparent, they may start to consider cutting their losses and looking toward 2016.
 
2012-08-03 04:45:50 PM
Someone needs to create an image macro of the red pill vs blue pill from the Matrix and say "So Romney, which option on your tax plan do you choose? Will you say it raises taxes on the lower and middle class to help pay for tax cuts for the rich? Or will you say it balloons the deficit in ways that only Taxbama Spendbongo could dream of?"
 
2012-08-03 04:46:06 PM

ongbok: Ed Finnerty: The Romney campaign is making the McCain campaign seem well organized and successful by comparison.

And McCain had Palin. Romney is doing this all on his own. He is just Palin with balls.


Romney = Palin + balls + money - 10% less IQ.

There ya go; mathematical formula all figured out for you.
 
2012-08-03 04:46:07 PM
Well, in a sense Obama DID force Romney to come up with a tax plan that raises taxes on the middle class. Obama did this simply by coming up with a tax plan that does NOT raise taxes on the middle class.
 
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