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(Boing Boing)   Drive your cat bonkers by getting them to chase a laser pointer? That's a patent violatin'   (boingboing.net) divider line 34
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2012-08-03 01:38:51 PM  
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2012-08-03 01:40:01 PM  
It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.
 
2012-08-03 01:44:00 PM  
If it was filed before 1995, it only had a 17 year life span.

So we're probably safe.
 
2012-08-03 01:47:16 PM  
Filing Date: 11/02/1993

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2012-08-03 01:47:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: If it was filed before 1995, it only had a 17 year life span.

So we're probably safe.


It expired for failure to pay fees years ago.
 
2012-08-03 01:54:34 PM  
Old news is old.
 
2012-08-03 02:14:13 PM  

a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.


Citation Needed.

Unless you cite that 'study' aka news release from a few weeks ago. Then go fark yourself.
 
2012-08-03 02:18:51 PM  

a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.


Yeah I messed up a friend's cat really bad doing that in the early 90's.
After some time, It would think it saw the dot everywhere...
It would end up in a corner jumping up the wall for hours, and when it wasn't doing that it was twitching out and moving its head left, right, up and down in a psychotic hyper-aware fashion- always looking for that elusive dot.
The cat was never the same, and I got a lot of heat for driving it insane.

Since then I always have the laser dot end up in my hand, at which point I make sure the cat sees me "put" it into my pocket.

You can indeed mess up a cat with those.
 
2012-08-03 02:28:01 PM  
So what ya' gonna do when he catches it, huh Mr. Smart Guy? HUH? WATCHAGONNADO???!!!

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Who's laughing, now?

WHO'S.

LAUGHING.

NOW.
 
2012-08-03 02:29:26 PM  

newton: You can indeed mess up a cat with those.


Maybe a stupid cat. Ours figured it out pretty quickly, and if you try that one, she'll look at you, look at your hand, and go back to preening herself. When she was younger, she would occasionally play for a bit anyway, but she doesn't even bother killing many real animals anymore.
 
2012-08-03 02:40:43 PM  

cptjeff: Maybe a stupid cat. Ours figured it out pretty quickly, and if you try that one, she'll look at you, look at your hand, and go back to preening herself.


Ours love it, but they know exactly what it is. When we stop, they'll come over and bat at our hand or the laser pointer until we continue.
 
2012-08-03 02:47:51 PM  

cptjeff: newton: You can indeed mess up a cat with those.

Maybe a stupid cat. Ours figured it out pretty quickly, and if you try that one, she'll look at you, look at your hand, and go back to preening herself. When she was younger, she would occasionally play for a bit anyway, but she doesn't even bother killing many real animals anymore.


I have a cat that gets the laser pointer off the coffee table and brings it to me when she wants to play

I don't think chasing the red dot has damaged her in any way
 
2012-08-03 03:09:29 PM  
 
2012-08-03 03:15:15 PM  
My cat couldn't care less about the laser pointers or anything else like that.

He only plays with my hand or his catnip-laced turtle.

The dog we had, however, he LOVED chasing that laser.
 
2012-08-03 03:24:11 PM  
This patent was used as an example in a patent class I took.

It only is a violation if you "Make a device like the one in the patent and sell it without paying the patent holder". So sayeth a patent attorney who knows his stuff.
Owning a laser pointer and using it "does not violate the patent as presented."

So if I package a laser pointer in a box that says on the box "Cat Exercise Kit" I'd better be paying royalties. If I sell a laser pointer that says "Laser Pointer" I can use it for whatever I want and it is fine.

/No, I am not an attorney.
//Yes the patent has a follow on about attaching a laser pointer to a fan to automate the exercise.
 
2012-08-03 03:25:23 PM  

a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.


Unless the cat does catch the dot...

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/Fark rules require that every relevant thread must have its associated XKCD posted.
 
2012-08-03 03:38:54 PM  

farker99: It only is a violation if you "Make a device like the one in the patent and sell it without paying the patent holder". So sayeth a patent attorney who knows his stuff.
Owning a laser pointer and using it "does not violate the patent as presented."


Either that patent attorney didn't know his stuff, or you misunderstood.
35 U.S.C. 271 Infringement of patent.:
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States, or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent.

If you use it, you infringe, even if you don't sell it.
Similarly, if you make it, you infringe, even if you don't sell it.
 
2012-08-03 04:01:21 PM  
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What if I told you the dot was a lie?
 
2012-08-03 04:04:23 PM  

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.

Unless the cat does catch the dot...

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/Fark rules require that every relevant thread must have its associated XKCD posted.


In that, you are correct!
 
2012-08-03 04:09:52 PM  

farker99: This patent was used as an example in a patent class I took.

It only is a violation if you "Make a device like the one in the patent and sell it without paying the patent holder". So sayeth a patent attorney who knows his stuff.
Owning a laser pointer and using it "does not violate the patent as presented."

So if I package a laser pointer in a box that says on the box "Cat Exercise Kit" I'd better be paying royalties. If I sell a laser pointer that says "Laser Pointer" I can use it for whatever I want and it is fine.

/No, I am not an attorney.
//Yes the patent has a follow on about attaching a laser pointer to a fan to automate the exercise.


That actually makes a ton of sense now.

I see laser pointers selling in the pet store (specifically labeled for cats) for more than twice what the same one with normal packaging elsewhere.

I always wondered why...
 
2012-08-03 04:13:04 PM  

WhoGAS: farker99: This patent was used as an example in a patent class I took.

It only is a violation if you "Make a device like the one in the patent and sell it without paying the patent holder". So sayeth a patent attorney who knows his stuff.
Owning a laser pointer and using it "does not violate the patent as presented."

So if I package a laser pointer in a box that says on the box "Cat Exercise Kit" I'd better be paying royalties. If I sell a laser pointer that says "Laser Pointer" I can use it for whatever I want and it is fine.

/No, I am not an attorney.
//Yes the patent has a follow on about attaching a laser pointer to a fan to automate the exercise.

That actually makes a ton of sense now.

I see laser pointers selling in the pet store (specifically labeled for cats) for more than twice what the same one with normal packaging elsewhere.

I always wondered why...


Marketing. As noted above, this patent expired a long, long time ago, for failure to pay fees. And I can't imagine they ever collected royalties. It was a vanity patent, so that the guy could claim he had an issued patent.
 
2012-08-03 04:13:55 PM  

WhoGAS: farker99: This patent was used as an example in a patent class I took.

It only is a violation if you "Make a device like the one in the patent and sell it without paying the patent holder". So sayeth a patent attorney who knows his stuff.
Owning a laser pointer and using it "does not violate the patent as presented."

So if I package a laser pointer in a box that says on the box "Cat Exercise Kit" I'd better be paying royalties. If I sell a laser pointer that says "Laser Pointer" I can use it for whatever I want and it is fine.

/No, I am not an attorney.
//Yes the patent has a follow on about attaching a laser pointer to a fan to automate the exercise.

That actually makes a ton of sense now.

I see laser pointers selling in the pet store (specifically labeled for cats) for more than twice what the same one with normal packaging elsewhere.

I always wondered why...


The same reason that pet stores will sell raw bones for 3 times the rate the butcher does. Because idiots will buy it for their pets.
 
2012-08-03 04:59:27 PM  
Prior art: I was doing this in the eighties to my cats ... with a laser scavenged from a copier and a 12V SLA battery to power the darn thing. You kids with your pen-sized pointers have it so darn easy, I tell you.


/My lawn, get off of it.
 
2012-08-03 05:00:25 PM  

a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.


My dog seems to understand the concept of the laser pointer, and yet still loves to chase the dot. She goes nuts whenever I pick up the pointer, starts barking and going in circles before I even turn the thing on.

/she also loves to be chased
//when I'm playing fetch with her, she'll stop giving me the ball and growl at me a little to try to get me to chase her
 
2012-08-03 05:40:33 PM  

a flock of birds: It can also fark the animal up to chase something they'll never catch. Seriously. So make sure you reward them with something intermittently while they chase the dot.


That's why I've replaced the laser thingy by a simple game of throwing kibbles in unexpected places. The cat gets to run like mad and pounce on something then eating it.


He's still nuttier than squirrel poop, though.
 
2012-08-03 06:14:12 PM  
Penguins will chase laser spots projected on the bottom of their pool at the public aquarium.

Then again, they'll chase the shadows of hands in spotlights above the pool too.

Dolphins came over near a projected spot, but I wouldn't say they were chasing it. Seemed more like curiosity. Perhaps they were sonaring the fark out of it.

/laser/themepark CSB. Was visiting Universal Studios at the new opened Harry Potter section. While waiting in line, I shone my laser on a wand floating in the wand shop window. Another patron scolded me for spoiling the illusion. I apologized, and also added my apologies for my sweating, spoiling the illusion of the concrete 'snow ' on the rooftops too.
 
2012-08-03 06:21:04 PM  
I met a dog once who had gone insane from the laser pointer. Poor thing was a wreck, constantly twitching, looking everywhere frantically trying to find the damned dot. It would chase your shadows on the floor as you walked by, barking like mad. The owners had stopped with the laser pointer a few years previous and it just never got over it.
 
2012-08-03 06:26:31 PM  
From TFA: "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light..."

That's a fail right there.
 
2012-08-03 06:54:32 PM  

Bukharin: From TFA: "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light..."

That's a fail right there.


True. Should have been an invisible beam of light.
 
2012-08-03 07:01:30 PM  
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2012-08-03 07:15:49 PM  
Well I'm off to patent the act of stimulating one's genitals with your own hand or hands until reaching orgasm.

Wankers, you can still carry on as usual but now you're going to have to pay.
 
2012-08-03 09:26:59 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Well I'm off to patent the act of stimulating one's genitals with your own hand or hands until reaching orgasm.

Wankers, you can still carry on as usual but now you're going to have to pay.



I'll make sure to list you in the prior art for my patent application I'm filing in the Netherlands for the act of having a third party manipulate my hand to stimulate my genitals until reaching orgasm.
 
2012-08-03 09:34:57 PM  
A professor at Murray State University taught me about this. Old news is old.
 
2012-08-04 12:40:04 AM  

sxacho: I met a dog once who had gone insane from the laser pointer. Poor thing was a wreck, constantly twitching, looking everywhere frantically trying to find the damned dot. It would chase your shadows on the floor as you walked by, barking like mad. The owners had stopped with the laser pointer a few years previous and it just never got over it.


So your dog never got over Macho Laser?

/lame, I know
//been a long day
 
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