If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Huffington Post)   Palestinians learn that perhaps Syria was not the best place to seek refuge from shelling   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 61
    More: Sad, Palestinians, Palestine refugee camps, Palestinian refugee, Free Syrian Army, refugee camps, peacekeeping, Salients, re-entrants and pockets, biological weapons  
•       •       •

2647 clicks; posted to Main » on 03 Aug 2012 at 3:02 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



61 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-08-04 07:36:36 PM

Captain_Ballbeard: Rik01:

Is there any middle-eastern nation that is NOT in a war, rebellion, coup, Jihad or stocking up on Russian military supplies?

I think Israel meets all of those conditions.


Wrong. Israel has always been in a low-level war, cold or otherwise, with its Arab neighbors, as well as a constant "counterinsurgency" against Arabs/Palestinians within its borders and its zone of occupation, interspersed with small purges against its more leftist Jewish/Zionist elements as well as hasving to counter occasional putsches by its more rightist Jewish/Zionist militants. And of course many Arabs and/or Muslims have characterized their struggle against Israeli Zionism is "jihad," while the Jewish Zionists' struggle is also characterized in religious terms.

The only thing in that above list that Israel is not doing is stocking up on Russian military supplies: they already get plenty of free or low-cost American militaria, as well as plentiful financial aid (including loans to buy American military supplies), from the USA.

Indeed, if Americans ever swatted Israel off our taxpayers' tit there would be no need for the Arabs and/or Muslims to drive the Zionists into the sea: all on their own the vast majority would desert the "Promised Land" as fast as they could for any country that would take them. (Of course it's no mere coincidence that the American "neocon" movement is led and financed by Jewish friends of Israel.)

In that event rents would get even higher in Brooklyn accordingly, while Warsaw might even regain a Jewish neighborhood. In the long run I'd suggest Israeli Jews learn Mandarin Chinese and perhaps Mongolian: surely there must be a way to make the Gobi bloom. Other alternatives include moving to their Soviet homeland (whose official language used to be Yiddish), or maybe America should sell them North Dakota and/or beg them to take Florida and Texas.

Russia : Syria :: USA : Israel.
 
2012-08-04 07:51:23 PM

FuzedBox: Smoking GNU:

I'd definitely convert to some religion if said religions god showed up and just smited the hell out of the entire middle east as a whole and left nothing standing. Get an end to THAT particular brand of DerpBullShait.

You would like a god to show up to impose his/her will which involves destroying the Middle East because you don't have the balls to admit that deep down, your opinion is genocide?

/I don't really disagree


Genocide against the Israeli Jewish Zionists (whether haredi or Tel Avivi), the Arab Muslim Palestinians (and the Arab Christian and atheist ones), as well as the various and sundry Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites? Not to mention all the monks and tourists infesting "the Holy Land?" I could live with that. In fact I could live with depopulating the whole area from the Meditteranean to the Hindu Kush and from the Russia/Kazakhstan border to New Delhi. Throw in Beijing, Shangai and Jakarta and I'd sell their holy book in every airport I could get to.

Come to think of it an epidemic that granted a quick and sure death to 95% of the world's population regardless of race, religion, etc. etc. would be a definite plus. But let's not get too demanding. Yet.
 
2012-08-04 07:54:23 PM

crispyone: smitty04: Lordserb: bingethinker: I'm surprised Syria let any Palestinians in. I thought it was the policy of surrounding Arab countries to keep the Palestinians stranded where they are as a political pawn in their quest to wipe Israel off the map.

Sad but true.

Jordan took in the Palestinians long ago and ended up bombing the hell out of them in September of 1970 (Black September). They seem to get bombed and kicked out of every country that takes them in.

If only there were a certain group of people they could relate to??? Hmmmm...Nope I'm drawing a blank. No other group of people have been kicked out of their homeland and spent decades being kicked out of and persecuted everywhere else they tried to live.


Oh you've got to be kidding. The Zionists have forgotten that part, except for "playing the victim card."

The Semitic languages include...
 
2012-08-04 07:56:45 PM
Mouser:

You left out the part about the Jewish bankers being behind it all. Or was I supposed to infer that?

Since when was Yiddishkeit a prerogative for greed?
 
2012-08-04 08:00:21 PM

The One True TheDavid: Mouser:

You left out the part about the Jewish bankers being behind it all. Or was I supposed to infer that?

Since when was Yiddishkeit a prerogative prerequisite for greed?

FTFM.

My pedant fu sometimes fails me. It's TheDavid season! Shoot shoot!
 
2012-08-05 03:05:12 PM

Tatterdemalian: Isildur: As with any people, Palestinians don't think with one shared mind.

Nazi Europe was composed of many individuals who didn't think with shared mind. Didn't stop them from willingly committing genocide, and they would have completed it if not for the violent intervention of outside forces.


Not everyone in Nazi-controlled parts of Europe cooperated and bore responsibility. Where possible, one should try to distinguish between movements and entire ethnic groups.


Tatterdemalian: The same thing goes on among the Palestinians, where the only thing binding people from dozens of different nations and cultures are their shared hatred of Israel. They won't ever give up on the hate, because their entire made-up nation would immediately shatter into factional warfare without it.

/no, it can't be made into a unified nation, no matter what promises they make
//not without finding someone to hate, and blame for the failure of religious belief to work better than technological progress


I certainly hope otherwise, since Israel has no reasonable choice but to continue living side by side with them. An independent, peaceful Palestinian state may not be possible under the current Palestinian leadership, but ultimately, that's where things need to go. Thinking that that is impossible forever is unnecessarily pessimistic, both for their future and Israel's.
 
2012-08-05 03:38:25 PM

Isildur: I certainly hope otherwise, since Israel has no reasonable choice but to continue living side by side with them. An independent, peaceful Palestinian state may not be possible under the current Palestinian leadership, but ultimately, that's where things need to go. Thinking that that is impossible forever is unnecessarily pessimistic, both for their future and Israel's.


It's not impossible forever, only until either Israel or the Palestinians are obliterated. Currently everyone sees the best way to end the conflict as convincing the Israelis to commit suicide, as then the blood will all be on their own hands, and nobody elses' (except the Palestinians who hunt down the stragglers, but they actually want Israeli blood on their hands).

/and all of continental Europe really did share responsibility for the Holocaust
//only the Nazi leaders deserved hanging, but the rest have to be legally barred from hiding from their own history, or they'll do it again
 
2012-08-05 05:18:36 PM
Tatterdemalian: It's not impossible forever, only until either Israel or the Palestinians are obliterated.

Things may be bad now, but that's an insane way to think about the long run. Things can change.
It's crazy to believe that genocide is the only way that peace is ultimately achievable.


Tatterdemalian: /and all of continental Europe really did share responsibility for the Holocaust

Even people who fought or resisted???
Even my grandparents who survived the Holocaust wouldn't make statements like that.

/Starting to think you're either trolling, or posing as pro-Israel to make other supporters look bad....
//but if you're serious... i.imgur.com
///links not working; Fark is doing the "Throwing away unfetchable URL ... 500 Can't connect to www.fark.com:80 (Bad hostname)" error again
 
2012-08-05 07:58:46 PM

Isildur: Tatterdemalian: It's not impossible forever, only until either Israel or the Palestinians are obliterated.

Things may be bad now, but that's an insane way to think about the long run. Things can change.
It's crazy to believe that genocide is the only way that peace is ultimately achievable.


Tatterdemalian: /and all of continental Europe really did share responsibility for the Holocaust

Even people who fought or resisted???
Even my grandparents who survived the Holocaust wouldn't make statements like that.

/Starting to think you're either trolling, or posing as pro-Israel to make other supporters look bad....
//but if you're serious... [i.imgur.com image 160x120]
///links not working; Fark is doing the "Throwing away unfetchable URL ... 500 Can't connect to www.fark.com:80 (Bad hostname)" error again


Did they live long enough to see the world trying to force Israel to treat the Palestinians the same way Neville Chamberlain treated Adolf Hitler?

If they want to forgive, forget, and make the same mistakes that let Hitler carry out his Final Solution, good for them, but I prefer to make new mistakes when I have to make them at all.

/they told Churchill that his saber rattling wasn't helping create "peace in our time"
//now that we know where that leads, I have no intention of helping make peace at any price in the Middle East
 
2012-08-05 08:42:51 PM

Tatterdemalian: Isildur: Tatterdemalian: It's not impossible forever, only until either Israel or the Palestinians are obliterated.

Things may be bad now, but that's an insane way to think about the long run. Things can change.
It's crazy to believe that genocide is the only way that peace is ultimately achievable.


Tatterdemalian: /and all of continental Europe really did share responsibility for the Holocaust

Even people who fought or resisted???
Even my grandparents who survived the Holocaust wouldn't make statements like that.

/Starting to think you're either trolling, or posing as pro-Israel to make other supporters look bad....
//but if you're serious... [i.imgur.com image 160x120]
///links not working; Fark is doing the "Throwing away unfetchable URL ... 500 Can't connect to www.fark.com:80 (Bad hostname)" error again

Did they live long enough to see the world trying to force Israel to treat the Palestinians the same way Neville Chamberlain treated Adolf Hitler?

If they want to forgive, forget, and make the same mistakes that let Hitler carry out his Final Solution, good for them, but I prefer to make new mistakes when I have to make them at all.

/they told Churchill that his saber rattling wasn't helping create "peace in our time"
//now that we know where that leads, I have no intention of helping make peace at any price in the Middle East




I'm not asking anyone to make peace at "any price", sheesh.

Note that for quite a few years now, the vast majority of Germans haven't been trying to slaughter Jews.
Opposing ideologies and organizations isn't the same as opposing an entire people in perpetuity. Peace can't always be made immediately, but it can eventually be made with nation. It may not even be "in our time", but committing oneself to some sort of eternal war is as crazy as boundless appeasement.

Again: Are you trolling, faking, or actually serious?
 
2012-08-06 12:48:18 AM

Isildur: Opposing ideologies and organizations isn't the same as opposing an entire people in perpetuity.


The only distinguishing factor between Palestinians and Israeli Arabs is their fundamental hatred of Israel. If you're going to call that a "people" instead of an ideology, then Liberal, Conservative, and Neo-Nazi are also entirely distinct peoples.

Note that the Jews are very uncommon in Germany, and protected by law for the time being, so the vast majority of Germans don't have the opportunity to slaughter Jews. Also note that the attempts to resettle Holocaust survivors in the neighborhoods they fled from kept resulting in renewed violence, which is why they were dumped in Israel instead.

/not because it wouldn't cause the same violence, but because there was already an existing Jewish community that was willing to do whatever it took to protect itself
//it worked, at least as far as giving the refugees the single best chance at survival... not so good for the Palestinians that tried to carry out their own pogroms
 
Displayed 11 of 61 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report