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2012-08-03 07:26:18 PM

mrshowrules: BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: You also forget that tax policy (especially tax on investment income) is a defining issue in the election.

That is an answer to why it MATTERS, but not to the amount of actual evidence.

So to recap:

Romney won't release his taxes, and we all think he must be hiding something. Virtually all other candidates have produced multiple years, we know he paid less that 15% for the one year he did produce, and he admits that the Dems will beat him up with what's in the other years.

Harry Reid says a guy called him and told him that Romney pad no taxes for a decade. He states that the person is a very credible source.

Now a CNN Reporter says she knows a guy who knows the guy that told Reid that Romney paid no taxes for a decade, thereby verifying that (a) Harry Reid isn't just making up the fact that he has a source, and (b) supporting the claim that the person in question is in a position to know about Mitt's taxes.

Is that the evidence provided so far, or have I missed something?

Again, I'm not asking if it matters (it matters a great deal), I'm asking if there is anything resembling proof yet.

I never said Reid was right or that I even necessarily think it is true. Just that it is a pretty good/dirty political trick. As long as we are talking about Romney's taxes, it is bad for him. That is the point of the exercise.

Romney loses no matter what.


Certainly enough circumstantial evidence that Mitt should refute.
 
2012-08-03 08:09:56 PM

mrshowrules: BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: You also forget that tax policy (especially tax on investment income) is a defining issue in the election.

That is an answer to why it MATTERS, but not to the amount of actual evidence.

So to recap:

Romney won't release his taxes, and we all think he must be hiding something.
Harry Reid says a guy called him and told him that Romney pad no taxes for a decade.
Now a CNN Reporter says she knows a guy who knows the guy that told Reid that Romney paid no taxes for a decade.

Is that the evidence provided so far, or have I missed something?

Again, I'm not asking if it matters (it matters a great deal), I'm asking if there is anything resembling proof yet.

I never said Reid was right or that I even necessarily think it is true. Just that it is a pretty good/dirty political trick. As long as we are talking about Romney's taxes, it is bad for him. That is the point of the exercise.

Romney loses no matter what.


I'm definitely not voting for Romney, but I think it was a dumb move by Reid. It's not as dumb as "My investigators have turned up some shocking evidence in Hawaii!" line or "I have in my hand a list of names. . ." but unless this dude from Bain is prepared to come forward with evidence, it's just silly partisan BS, and we should expect better behavior than that from the Senate Majority Leader. As soon as someone asked Reid for some verification of his story and he ducked responsibility, the story switches to "Why is Reid so desperate to make Romney look bad?"

Romney is perfectly capable of ruining his campaign all by himself.
 
2012-08-03 09:26:26 PM

Kittypie070: Mwelp, that thar's the difference between us long-haired stanky hippiez and them pea-pickin' hoodoo suckin' neo-cons.

T'ain't logical, but them's the breaks.

[removes stalk of timothy grass from mouth, spits neatly, replaces timothy grass; moseys elsewhere]


Did you hit the spittoon?
 
2012-08-03 09:53:55 PM

HighOnCraic: mrshowrules: BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: You also forget that tax policy (especially tax on investment income) is a defining issue in the election.

That is an answer to why it MATTERS, but not to the amount of actual evidence.

So to recap:

Romney won't release his taxes, and we all think he must be hiding something.
Harry Reid says a guy called him and told him that Romney pad no taxes for a decade.
Now a CNN Reporter says she knows a guy who knows the guy that told Reid that Romney paid no taxes for a decade.

Is that the evidence provided so far, or have I missed something?

Again, I'm not asking if it matters (it matters a great deal), I'm asking if there is anything resembling proof yet.

I never said Reid was right or that I even necessarily think it is true. Just that it is a pretty good/dirty political trick. As long as we are talking about Romney's taxes, it is bad for him. That is the point of the exercise.

Romney loses no matter what.

I'm definitely not voting for Romney, but I think it was a dumb move by Reid. It's not as dumb as "My investigators have turned up some shocking evidence in Hawaii!" line or "I have in my hand a list of names. . ." but unless this dude from Bain is prepared to come forward with evidence, it's just silly partisan BS, and we should expect better behavior than that from the Senate Majority Leader. As soon as someone asked Reid for some verification of his story and he ducked responsibility, the story switches to "Why is Reid so desperate to make Romney look bad?"

Romney is perfectly capable of ruining his campaign all by himself.


Dirty/lame move on behalf of Reid but the comparison to birfer stuff doesn't hold up for me.

First, Obama proved his birth status from day one. Fact. Done. Questioning it was retarded. Second, Romney has demonstrated tax avoidance as a pattern and a desire to hide the truth of his taxes. Furthermore, there is a link to this issue and an important policy issue.
 
2012-08-03 10:13:43 PM

mrshowrules: HighOnCraic: mrshowrules: BojanglesPaladin: mrshowrules: You also forget that tax policy (especially tax on investment income) is a defining issue in the election.

That is an answer to why it MATTERS, but not to the amount of actual evidence.

So to recap:

Romney won't release his taxes, and we all think he must be hiding something.
Harry Reid says a guy called him and told him that Romney pad no taxes for a decade.
Now a CNN Reporter says she knows a guy who knows the guy that told Reid that Romney paid no taxes for a decade.

Is that the evidence provided so far, or have I missed something?

Again, I'm not asking if it matters (it matters a great deal), I'm asking if there is anything resembling proof yet.

I never said Reid was right or that I even necessarily think it is true. Just that it is a pretty good/dirty political trick. As long as we are talking about Romney's taxes, it is bad for him. That is the point of the exercise.

Romney loses no matter what.

I'm definitely not voting for Romney, but I think it was a dumb move by Reid. It's not as dumb as "My investigators have turned up some shocking evidence in Hawaii!" line or "I have in my hand a list of names. . ." but unless this dude from Bain is prepared to come forward with evidence, it's just silly partisan BS, and we should expect better behavior than that from the Senate Majority Leader. As soon as someone asked Reid for some verification of his story and he ducked responsibility, the story switches to "Why is Reid so desperate to make Romney look bad?"

Romney is perfectly capable of ruining his campaign all by himself.

Dirty/lame move on behalf of Reid but the comparison to birfer stuff doesn't hold up for me.

First, Obama proved his birth status from day one. Fact. Done. Questioning it was retarded. Second, Romney has demonstrated tax avoidance as a pattern and a desire to hide the truth of his taxes. Furthermore, there is a link to this issue and an important policy issue.


That's why I used those words above in bold. I'm definitely not comparing this issue to birtherism (or McCarthyism, for that matter). I still think it was a dumb move if he can't back up his claim, regardless of the insane claims of the birthers.
 
2012-08-03 10:45:39 PM
I have sympathy for Rmoney, in the same way Hunter Thompson once expressed sympathy for Nixon: As a cheapshot NFL linebacker who got his knees shattered by some vicious tackle. "It's so sad that dirtbag's career is over."
 
2012-08-05 12:30:29 AM
Gyrfalcon 2012-08-03 09:26:26 PM

Kittypie070: Mwelp, that thar's the difference between us long-haired stanky hippiez and them pea-pickin' hoodoo suckin' neo-cons.

T'ain't logical, but them's the breaks.

[removes stalk of timothy grass from mouth, spits neatly, replaces timothy grass; moseys elsewhere]


Did you hit the spittoon?


Nah, looks like I done hit Roland Gunner by accident somewhar along the spit vector.

He might wanna warsh it off kinda fast, it's the flak jacket armor plate dissolving type. That timothy grass is a bit tough.
 
2012-08-05 12:12:02 PM
If Mittens sued Harry for libel, the burden would be on Mittens to prove that Harry was lying.

That's the way that shiat works...
 
2012-08-05 01:06:32 PM

12000Eyes: If Mittens sued Harry for libel, the burden would be on Mittens to prove that Harry was lying.

That's the way that shiat works...


So it would be accurate to call Harry a "baiter" of one sort or another? Perhaps even a "Master Baiter"?
 
2012-08-05 02:10:59 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: 12000Eyes: If Mittens sued Harry for libel, the burden would be on Mittens to prove that Harry was lying.

That's the way that shiat works...

So it would be accurate to call Harry a "baiter" of one sort or another? Perhaps even a "Master Baiter"?


I see what you did there...

... giggety!
 
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