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(Townhall)   In the eyes of these critics, the Kennedys are American royalty, while the Palins are too cordoned off with reality TV divas like the Kardashians or hicks like the stars of "Hillbilly Handfishin'"   (townhall.com) divider line 130
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2012-08-03 10:57:07 AM  
There are intelligent, conservative women.....they just don't run for office.
 
2012-08-03 10:57:37 AM  
Family that sells its privacy and dignity to the highest bidder held up for ridicule, rather than being praised for... uh.... being famous, maybe?
 
2012-08-03 10:58:43 AM  

imontheinternet: Family that sells its privacy and dignity to the highest bidder held up for ridicule, rather than being praised for... uh.... being famous, maybe?


Why should we praise them? They haven't done anything to earn it.
 
2012-08-03 10:59:22 AM  
If the Kardashians are the trailer-trash of reality tv, then the Palidashians are their Appalachian cousins.



/with applogies to the trailer dwellers and mountain folk.
 
2012-08-03 11:00:41 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: what_now: I'm not sure why you're so afraid of a strong conservative woman.

She's too smart for me. I'm frightened by her unmatched intellect.



What unmatched intellect might look like.

i13.photobucket.com

/(knows you're being snarky)
 
2012-08-03 11:02:12 AM  
Kennedys: Harvard. Palins: GEDs or community college.
 
2012-08-03 11:02:50 AM  

monoski: FlashHarry: sarah palin is:

• greedy
• narcissistic
• cynical
• duplicitous
• vain
• petty
• cruel
• ignorant
• selfish
• calculating
• manipulative
• delusional

in short, she is one of the worst humans currently walking the earth and represents virtually everything wrong with america at the dawn of the 21st century.

You forgot hypocritical


No, he already said Sarah Palin.
 
2012-08-03 11:03:07 AM  

Aarontology: That's because the Palins have turned into Reality TV divas through their own efforts. Nobody forced them to go on all those shows.

And who still thinks about the Kennedys?


Greatest Gen has their FDR
Boomers have their Kennedies
Gen X has either George or Bill Clinton
Gen Y will have Obama.
 
2012-08-03 11:04:32 AM  

qorkfiend: imontheinternet: Family that sells its privacy and dignity to the highest bidder held up for ridicule, rather than being praised for... uh.... being famous, maybe?

Why should we praise them? They haven't done anything to earn it.


Palin's '08 run provided a great cautionary tale for future candidates on "maverick" VP picks and the importance of thorough vetting. She's praiseworthy in the same sense as the guy that tried to eat Preparation H, in that she gave us that helpful warning on the tube.
 
2012-08-03 11:04:57 AM  
The Kennedys at least have always carried themselves with a measure of decorum.
 
2012-08-03 11:05:34 AM  

imontheinternet: qorkfiend: imontheinternet: Family that sells its privacy and dignity to the highest bidder held up for ridicule, rather than being praised for... uh.... being famous, maybe?

Why should we praise them? They haven't done anything to earn it.

Palin's '08 run provided a great cautionary tale for future candidates on "maverick" VP picks and the importance of thorough vetting. She's praiseworthy in the same sense as the guy that tried to eat Preparation H, in that she gave us that helpful warning on the tube.


"Failing so epically that you have to warn others about it" is not praiseworthy.
 
2012-08-03 11:05:50 AM  

Brick-House: Now on a more serious note, if you look at JFK's policies, he would be a card carrying Republican today.

/ask not what your country can do for you rather what you can do for your country


Can you pay more taxes for your country?
 
2012-08-03 11:19:05 AM  
Is it now a friggin' rule around here that every piece of pants-on-head retarded drivel by Brent Bozell be greenlit?
 
2012-08-03 11:20:16 AM  

Musikslayer: Kennedys: Harvard. Palins: GEDs or community college.


Well to be fair, I don't really respect an Ivy league degree if it's some bullshiat major like law or an MBA in a school that you got into because of your daddy. Even Clinton's degree, which he earned on his own doesn't mean shiat next to Jimmy Carter's degree in nuclear physics. But I'm a science and math guy who thinks that higher education should be more than doing circle jerks at frat houses on daddy's dime.
 
2012-08-03 11:20:59 AM  

tnpir: Is it now a friggin' rule around here that every piece of pants-on-head retarded drivel by Brent Bozell be greenlit?


Stupid opinions drive traffic.
 
2012-08-03 11:24:57 AM  
So, I'm from a pretty lower middle class blue collar town. We had some upper middle class yuppie people due to the town's proximity to a major city, and there wasn't a lot of poverty when I was growing up, but people weren't too well off, and it was teetering on the trashy side.

In the 16 years since I've left that town, it's really gone down hill, as most blue collar towns and states have, due to a variety of economic factors.

Some of the people from my HS class still live there, and I've reconnected w/ them via facebook, and I have to admit, I consider them a form of entertainment.

There are a few women who were on the trashy side to begin with, and life hasn't worked out for them the way they wanted. They have a lot of kids, unstable relationships and job prospects, and clearly don't have a way out of their situation.

These are some of the most DEFENSIVE and ANGRY people I have ever seen, there is so much drama, poor spelling, and anger coming from these people.

The Palins would fit right in.
 
2012-08-03 11:28:57 AM  

what_now: So, I'm from a pretty lower middle class blue collar town. We had some upper middle class yuppie people due to the town's proximity to a major city, and there wasn't a lot of poverty when I was growing up, but people weren't too well off, and it was teetering on the trashy side.

In the 16 years since I've left that town, it's really gone down hill, as most blue collar towns and states have, due to a variety of economic factors.

Some of the people from my HS class still live there, and I've reconnected w/ them via facebook, and I have to admit, I consider them a form of entertainment.

There are a few women who were on the trashy side to begin with, and life hasn't worked out for them the way they wanted. They have a lot of kids, unstable relationships and job prospects, and clearly don't have a way out of their situation.

These are some of the most DEFENSIVE and ANGRY people I have ever seen, there is so much drama, poor spelling, and anger coming from these people.

The Palins would fit right in.


I stay away from Facebook for that reason among others. I come from a small town in rural Pennsylvania, and I consider myself "escaped" from it. It's farking depressing to hear from your friends and acquaintances (and even the people who picked on you) from school and found out they rushed to get married and settle down into a town with a mall where two-thirds of the storefrontrs are closed, the Wal-Mart moved out to the interchange, and a flood cancelled the annual town fair for the first time in 160 years. Or that one of your old friends got arrested for getting into a bar fight and saying something racist, and has two kids. What was I talking about?

/Haven't lived there in a decade.
//Haven't gone back to hometown in years.
///Didn't go to high school reuinion.
 
2012-08-03 11:29:14 AM  

Marshal805: tnpir: Is it now a friggin' rule around here that every piece of pants-on-head retarded drivel by Brent Bozell be greenlit?

Stupid opinions drive traffic.


It is by will alone I set my mind to stagnate. It is by the Derp of Townhall that common sense acquires irrelevancy, the greenlights acquire clicks, the clicks become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind to stagnate.
 
2012-08-03 11:34:42 AM  
"I don't think it's our business," Bristol said of her family, when one TV critic asked that question. "I just think you guys are going to be talking about us either way.....

No.
 
2012-08-03 11:35:24 AM  

Bloody William: I stay away from Facebook for that reason among others. I come from a small town in rural Pennsylvania, and I consider myself "escaped" from it. It's farking depressing to hear from your friends and acquaintances (and even the people who picked on you) from school and found out they rushed to get married and settle down into a town with a mall where two-thirds of the storefrontrs are closed, the Wal-Mart moved out to the interchange, and a flood cancelled the annual town fair for the first time in 160 years. Or that one of your old friends got arrested for getting into a bar fight and saying something racist, and has two kids. What was I talking about?

/Haven't lived there in a decade.
//Haven't gone back to hometown in years.
///Didn't go to high school reuinion.


Yeah, all of that.

But I was the skinny awkward girl who wore glasses and read a lot, so I took a lot of shiat growing up.

Which is why I *am* facebook friends with these people.
 
2012-08-03 11:40:19 AM  
The Palins are Carnys.
 
2012-08-03 11:43:07 AM  
John F. Kennedy
Congressman: 1947 - 1953
Senator: 1953-1960
President: 1961-1963 (assassinated)

Robert F. Kennedy
Attorney General: 1961-1964
Senator: 1965-1968 (assassinated)

Edward M. Kennedy
Senator: 1962-2009 (died of brain cancer)

Sarah H. Palin
City Council: 1992-1996
Mayor: 1996-2002
Governor: 2006-2009 (resigned because "only dead fish go with the flow")
Reality TV star: 2010-2011

Yeah, she deserves to be compared with the Kennedys.
 
2012-08-03 11:44:40 AM  

jj325: "I don't think it's our business," Bristol said of her family, when one TV critic asked that question. "I just think you guys are going to be talking about us either way.....

No.


No, sweetie, we wouldn't. You get attention fo the same reasons that MTV's teen moms get attention.
 
2012-08-03 11:45:21 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: The Palins are Carnys.


educlaytion.files.wordpress.com
Hey Ralphie boy, I'm pretty sure they're on Trixie's side of the family.
 
2012-08-03 11:46:23 AM  
•The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.


•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.


•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.


•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.


•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.


•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.


•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.


•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.


•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.
 
2012-08-03 11:50:17 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: John F. Kennedy
Congressman: 1947 - 1953
Senator: 1953-1960
President: 1961-1963 (assassinated)

Robert F. Kennedy
Attorney General: 1961-1964
Senator: 1965-1968 (assassinated)

Edward M. Kennedy
Senator: 1962-2009 (died of brain cancer)

Sarah H. Palin
City Council: 1992-1996
Mayor: 1996-2002
Governor: 2006-2009 (resigned because "only dead fish go with the flow")
Reality TV star: 2010-2011

Yeah, she deserves to be compared with the Kennedys.


Maybe Rosemary.
 
2012-08-03 11:50:32 AM  

Crewmannumber6: •The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.


•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.


•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.


•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.


•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.


•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.


•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.


•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.


•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.


Aaaaaaaaaand?
 
2012-08-03 11:51:50 AM  

Crewmannumber6: •The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.

•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.

•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.

•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.

•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.
•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.

•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.

•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.

•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.

•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.

•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.

•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.
•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.



Yeah, the Kennedys are farking assholes. What exactly is your point?
 
2012-08-03 11:54:34 AM  

Crewmannumber6: •The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.


•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.


•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.


•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.


•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.


•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.


•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.


•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.


•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.


So they're basically like any royal family!

We should be glad they never went full Lannister.

/You never go full Lannister.
 
2012-08-03 11:58:17 AM  

Mugato: Well to be fair, I don't really respect an Ivy league degree if it's some bullshiat major like law or an MBA in a school that you got into because of your daddy. Even Clinton's degree, which he earned on his own doesn't mean shiat next to Jimmy Carter's degree in nuclear physics.


What does nuclear physics have to do with running a country? I'll take a president with degrees in Foreign Service, Philosophy, Politics, and Economics, and a JD over a degree in Nuclear Physics any day. Especially when that first list of degrees was achieved with enough distinction to earn a Rhodes Scholarship along the way.

I say this as a fellow holder of a scientific degree.
 
2012-08-03 11:59:10 AM  

mahuika: Aarontology: And who still thinks about the Kennedys?

Same people who still think Communists are trying to infiltrate the US and that people can work their way through college.

People stuck in 1955.


That's plausible.
 
2012-08-03 12:03:45 PM  
marvalisa.com
 
2012-08-03 12:03:52 PM  
With all this animosity towards the "Big Hollywood Elite", you'd think these farkers would stop going to the movies already.
 
2012-08-03 12:04:18 PM  
That is an unfair comparison to the Kardasians.
 
2012-08-03 12:08:48 PM  

Eshman: With all this animosity towards the "Big Hollywood Elite", you'd think these farkers would stop going to the movies already.


Then who'd keep an eye on the Hollywood liberals?
 
2012-08-03 12:09:32 PM  
Ah. A Townhall link.

I thought I smelled something.
 
2012-08-03 12:12:28 PM  

what_now: Bloody William: I stay away from Facebook for that reason among others. I come from a small town in rural Pennsylvania, and I consider myself "escaped" from it. It's farking depressing to hear from your friends and acquaintances (and even the people who picked on you) from school and found out they rushed to get married and settle down into a town with a mall where two-thirds of the storefrontrs are closed, the Wal-Mart moved out to the interchange, and a flood cancelled the annual town fair for the first time in 160 years. Or that one of your old friends got arrested for getting into a bar fight and saying something racist, and has two kids. What was I talking about?

/Haven't lived there in a decade.
//Haven't gone back to hometown in years.
///Didn't go to high school reuinion.

Yeah, all of that.

But I was the skinny awkward girl who wore glasses and read a lot, so I took a lot of shiat growing up.

Which is why I *am* facebook friends with these people.


Same with my high school. I'm only 5 years out, and the schadenfreude is already delicious. I went to college and turned into a social icon within the groups I'm active with and succeeded at most of what I tried (ok...my research fell flat, but I learned a valuable lesson from that). They stayed at home, had kids, got married and generally serve to make me happy I got the hell out.

Being the nerdy kid who got shiat on all of middle school and high school, I sometimes wonder if all the teasing and getting turned down by girls who I wouldn't even consider dating now may have created a monster. According to my family, it did, but I think it has been a change for the better. I'm certainly happier.
 
2012-08-03 12:16:09 PM  
Crewmannumber6


•The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.


•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.


•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.


•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.


•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.


•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.


•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.


•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.


•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.


Yeah but the Palins are on bad TV shows so that trumps all.

Reading that list, I would consider that family white trash but because they had some money I guess they are just eccentric.

Plus Palins kill animals, Kennedy's just kill women their done with.
 
2012-08-03 12:21:26 PM  
How about the Kennedys are/were assholes who achieved their fortune by bootlegging and organized crime connections, and the Palins are white trash who achieved their fortune by grifting?
 
2012-08-03 12:22:57 PM  

Crewmannumber6: •The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


Rose was a good little Irish-American Catholic wife who wouldn't have done shiat to save her own daughter in the first place. She knew which side her bread was buttered on. Probably learned from her own mama, wife of Honey Fitz. Or any number of mafia wives. If Joe Sr. really didn't tell Rose, it was as a courtesy so that she could technically not bear direct responsibility. And then she should biatch and whine all she wanted if shiat didn't play at. Trust, if she really wanted to save her daughter from a lobotomy, she would have. She did not. Plausible deniability is a powerful thing. But she had no real power, except through the ring someone else gave her.



Crewmannumber6:•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.

That's what rich folks do. I wonder what rich families *didn't* make money working both sides, or tradin with the Nazis?


Crewmannumber6: •JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.

Saw a documentary recently on the Rat Pack that said the Kennedys' used brother in law Peter Lawson's house to screw Marilyn. It made it seem like the Kennedys saw Marilyn as a fk, but Peter felt sorry for her.... and never forgave himself when she died of that overdose. I wonder if getting back at old man Kennedy by marrying his fugly daughter was worth it?


Crewmannumber6: •JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


Same Rat pack documentary: that was intentional. The family used Patricia to ask her husband Peter to ask his former best friend in the world Frank Sinatra to help get her brother John elected by any means. And Frankie delivered, even though it ended up costing Frankie some with the mob when the Kennedys acted like backstabbing snakes and it put the final nail in the coffin of Peter and Frank's friendship.

But who knows what the truth is. Farkers who were there, what happened with that?


Crewmannumber6:•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.

Little Brother Fkup wasn't going to go out like a hero, like his three older brothers. Somebody had to wear the dunce cap in the family. If Little Brother had been treated the way he should have been treated, would we have heard about the end of the Kennedy line, since having spare sons around used to be important to folks?


The listing of the Kennedy kids is sad, but given that the four brothers had 18 official nieces and nephews between them all, the fact that the list isn't longer, much longer, is a credit to them. There are fkups in every family.
 
2012-08-03 12:25:44 PM  

Crewmannumber6: •The Kennedy family fortune came from bootlegging booze during the Prohibition.


•Joe Sr. Kennedy ordered that his daughter Rosemary have a lobotomy because she was retarded. He did it without telling Rose Kennedy first. Rosemary is still alive in a Wisconsin institution.


•Joe Sr. allegedly had a affair with actress Gloria Swanson, which Rose ignored.


•Joe Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer who made money doing deals with the Third Reich.


•JFK's allegedly had affairs with Marilyn Monroe and many others while he was married.


•JKF had connections to crime organizations, including the Mafia.


•Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge on Massachusetts' Chappaquiddick Island after a party, fatally injuring aide Mary Jo Kopechne. He then left her to die after escaping.


•Ted's son Patrick, now a Congressman, sought treatment for cocaine addiction as a teenager.


•Joe II Kennedy, tried to get an annulment (instead of a divorce) erasing his 12-year marriage. Supposedly Joe wanted to remain in the church, so he was willing to say that because he'd lacked "due discretion," he had never really been married. Joe's ex-wife published a book "Shattered Faith" that depicts him as a narcissistic bully and protests his efforts to have their 12-year marriage annulled. The annulment got overturned and his next marriage was not in the Catholic church.


•Michael Kennedy drew negative publicity for an affair with his family's underage baby sitter.


•William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape at the family's Palm Beach, Florida, estate after a party with Uncle Ted. He was acquitted.


•David Kennedy overdosed in drugs and died in 1984.


•Bobby Jr. was found in possession of marijuana while a juvenile.


•Bobby Jr. overdosed on heroin in 1983 while aboard an airplane. He was arrested upon landing.


To be fair, the Palidashians haven't been on the scene all that long. I think they can out-do this in record time. Let's see, you started with Joe - that was like 60/70 years ago. hmmm, Willow's about 12? Tripp is what, 4?

I say they can do it in less than 15.
 
2012-08-03 12:27:58 PM  
Yeah, yeah, yeah but - the GOP would have had this woman and her family a few "clicks" away from the White House.

/get off my grassy knoll
 
2012-08-03 12:28:27 PM  

Citrate1007: Under fire from the journalists, Bristol answered: "You know what? I like gays. I'm not a homophobic (sic), and I'm so sick of people saying that, just because I'm for traditional marriage..."

This is what conservatives actually think.


It's fascinating. "I don't hate gays, I just thinks they should have fewer rights than straight people."

People keep saying this in CFA threads, I keep asking "if you're trying to deny civil rights to people you don't like and don't want to call it "hate," then what do you call it?"

No one has ever answered.
 
2012-08-03 12:32:22 PM  

The Homer Tax: Citrate1007: Under fire from the journalists, Bristol answered: "You know what? I like gays. I'm not a homophobic (sic), and I'm so sick of people saying that, just because I'm for traditional marriage..."

This is what conservatives actually think.

It's fascinating. "I don't hate gays, I just thinks they should have fewer rights than straight people."

People keep saying this in CFA threads, I keep asking "if you're trying to deny civil rights to people you don't like and don't want to call it "hate," then what do you call it?"

No one has ever answered.


Actually it's easy to deny rights to people you don't like just because you don't like them.
It's happening right now, among those who think they're enlightened about gay rights. Shrug.
It's just people being people, and no one -- no group -- in this culture is immune.
 
2012-08-03 12:46:03 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: The Homer Tax: Citrate1007: Under fire from the journalists, Bristol answered: "You know what? I like gays. I'm not a homophobic (sic), and I'm so sick of people saying that, just because I'm for traditional marriage..."

This is what conservatives actually think.

It's fascinating. "I don't hate gays, I just thinks they should have fewer rights than straight people."

People keep saying this in CFA threads, I keep asking "if you're trying to deny civil rights to people you don't like and don't want to call it "hate," then what do you call it?"

No one has ever answered.

Actually it's easy to deny rights to people you don't like just because you don't like them.
It's happening right now, among those who think they're enlightened about gay rights. Shrug.
It's just people being people, and no one -- no group -- in this culture is immune.


I didn't say it want easy to try and deny people rights, I said its fascinating that someone can do that to someone else an still claim they don't "hate" them.

If someone said "I don't hate Dallas Cowboy fans, I just think soldiers should be able to quarter in their homes without their permission," my response would be the same -"then you hate Dallas Cowboy fans, stupid."
 
2012-08-03 12:52:07 PM  

The Homer Tax: ExperianScaresCthulhu: The Homer Tax: Citrate1007: Under fire from the journalists, Bristol answered: "You know what? I like gays. I'm not a homophobic (sic), and I'm so sick of people saying that, just because I'm for traditional marriage..."

This is what conservatives actually think.

It's fascinating. "I don't hate gays, I just thinks they should have fewer rights than straight people."

People keep saying this in CFA threads, I keep asking "if you're trying to deny civil rights to people you don't like and don't want to call it "hate," then what do you call it?"

No one has ever answered.

Actually it's easy to deny rights to people you don't like just because you don't like them.
It's happening right now, among those who think they're enlightened about gay rights. Shrug.
It's just people being people, and no one -- no group -- in this culture is immune.

I didn't say it want easy to try and deny people rights, I said its fascinating that someone can do that to someone else an still claim they don't "hate" them.

If someone said "I don't hate Dallas Cowboy fans, I just think soldiers should be able to quarter in their homes without their permission," my response would be the same -"then you hate Dallas Cowboy fans, stupid."


Republicans denounce and block any legislation that demands equal pay for equal work for women. For some reason everyone seems to be fine with this......it's 1/2 the farking population that is getting screwed but it is just following the status quo. Rational people need to stand up to people who use (skewed) religious beliefs to justify discrimination. These bible pounding mouthpoopers are using the bible to justify their ignorance and intolerance. Anything can be taken out of context to justify horrific acts like genocide, slavery, rape, etc.
 
2012-08-03 12:53:57 PM  
The Palins put themselves in reality TV hell. They have no one else o blame.
 
2012-08-03 12:55:58 PM  

oldfarthenry: If it walks, talks, drools, farts and banjo plucks like an inbred bumpkin - it's probably an inbred bumpkin!


Please. Royalty may be inbred, but you can't consider them to be bumpkins.
 
2012-08-03 12:56:54 PM  

St_Francis_P: I think of the Palins as the common clay of the New West.


Um, I don't think that's clay.
 
2012-08-03 12:57:00 PM  
I was going with The NEW Beverly Hillbillies, but close enough.
 
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