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(My Fox DC)   "The lunch rush is the most popular, so between 11:45 and 1:00 you see, pretty much, 85 percent of your people," said the a) deli owner, b) waitress at the diner, c) the online undercover prostitute   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 55
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2012-08-03 11:34:00 AM
"Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county. After all, we have revenue to generate."
 
2012-08-03 11:34:37 AM
Is that 85% OF the people, or 85% of THE people? Tips are appreciated.
 
2012-08-03 11:37:52 AM
Well, I feel so much better. Also, I know the word entrapment gets thrown around a lot, but how is this not it? It's clearly law enforcement enticing someone to commit a crime. Just because it's over the internet, that makes it kosher?
 
2012-08-03 11:38:15 AM
"I'll have the tuna melt!"
 
2012-08-03 11:38:29 AM
I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.
 
2012-08-03 11:38:58 AM
I never got my GED in law, so one of you experts tell me . . . how the hell is this not entrapment?


/ advertise sex for money
/ ????
/ public profit!
 
2012-08-03 11:41:59 AM
Back when I was a kid, most of the cops had a little self-respect and had a de minimis concept. I've smoked pot with narcs, been let go with some titularly significant crap because 'it was just him and his buddies.' I could go on.

//What's
//happened?
 
2012-08-03 11:42:14 AM

TrainingWheelsNeeded: "Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county. After all, we have revenue to generate."



WTF...?????
 
2012-08-03 11:42:39 AM
A, B or C...........A, B or C..........decisions, decisions......
 
2012-08-03 11:43:00 AM

FedExPope: Well, I feel so much better. Also, I know the word entrapment gets thrown around a lot, but how is this not it? It's clearly law enforcement enticing someone to commit a crime. Just because it's over the internet, that makes it kosher?


Well it depends on how they do it. As you are seeking it out, it's not entrapment. If they get the guy asking for something directly in exchange for cash on the phone or in person then they are busted when they show up I would assume. Otherwise they wouldn't have much to go on (but would probably arrest you anyway for sport), although lawyers are $$ and most people would take the misdemeanor offered rather than go to court and have it in public.
 
2012-08-03 11:44:23 AM

Sofa King Smart: TrainingWheelsNeeded: "Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county. After all, we have revenue to generate."


WTF...?????


Read the actual article
 
2012-08-03 11:45:44 AM

gopher321: "I'll have the tuna melt!"


Dude, fish doesn't melt. It's meat.
 
2012-08-03 11:46:47 AM
Entrapment:

Want some?
No.
Come on, try it.
No, thanks.
It's really good try it.
Umm...
Are you scared?
No, its just...
Don't be a pussy, try it.
Well, maybe..
You're under arrest.

Not entrapment:

Want some?
Sure. Gimme two.
 
2012-08-03 11:47:15 AM
FTFA: Some of the "johns" beg to be set free,

You mean the married ones with kids who need a little somepin somepin not getting from home and now has a ton of explaining to do to wifey.
 
2012-08-03 11:47:44 AM
Let's make the assumption she services wholly formed people. If the smallest whole multiple of 0.85 is 20, then 20 * 0.85 = 17 Johns.

17 Johns in an hour and a quarter is pretty damn impressive!
 
2012-08-03 11:49:22 AM
I don't like being in Prince Georges County. I sure as hell don't want to be inside somebody in Prince Georges County.

Also, it's a miracle that none of the johns has been gunned down by the PGC cops.
 
2012-08-03 11:52:30 AM
Capt. Mints also mentioned that prostitution also spreads diseases. In fact, the first "john" arrested on Thursday told the undercover officer posing as a prostitute that he would pay more for sex if she allowed him to forgo the use of a condom.

Veteran officers said that proposal is made quite frequently.


Team Raw Dog!
 
2012-08-03 11:53:49 AM

maxx2112: I never got my GED in law, so one of you experts tell me . . . how the hell is this not entrapment?


/ advertise sex for money
/ ????
/ public profit!


To Suceed in an entrapment defense, you have to prove you were criminally inclined in the first place, and but for the actions of the police, you wouldn;t have committed the crime. Thus if you are trolling online prostitution sites, it hard to make that argument. Now if she was advertising on a online dating site, and then when you showed up for your date she said "give me $100 and I'll let you fark me" Then you have an entrapment defense
 
2012-08-03 11:53:52 AM
Internal affairs should do similar operations to get rid of corrupt police officers. Entrapment when done on cops, routine on citizens.
 
2012-08-03 11:54:19 AM

Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.


I usually get off on the night shift.
 
2012-08-03 11:56:33 AM
assignation: showing up with money for sex. Who knew?
 
2012-08-03 11:56:33 AM

MoronLessOff: Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.

I usually get off on the night shift.


oscomedy.homestead.com

Did you call Starkist?
 
2012-08-03 11:57:23 AM

footshot: Let's make the assumption she services wholly formed people. If the smallest whole multiple of 0.85 is 20, then 20 * 0.85 = 17 Johns.

17 Johns in an hour and a quarter is pretty damn impressive!


They didn't have math problems like that when I was in school, more of us would have paid attention.
 
2012-08-03 11:57:53 AM
This is one of those crimes where all the gateway nonsense stems from the fact that it's illegal, not from the acts themselves.

Disease gets spread because there are no safety requirements to get tested. Underage trafficking occurs because there are no licenses to apply for. Violence happens because pimps are involved.

Legalize, regulate, and tax. Everyone wins.
 
2012-08-03 11:58:45 AM
Capt. Mints also mentioned that prostitution also spreads diseases.

As opposed to free sex?
 
2012-08-03 12:00:25 PM
Where is this that prostitution is illegal? Is it just the county? Or is it illegal in the whole state? Why? It seems weird that people could be arrested for responding to an advertisement.
 
2012-08-03 12:01:47 PM
Ten bucks or six Dairy Queen coupons.
 
2012-08-03 12:03:32 PM

Hamanu: Where is this that prostitution is illegal? Is it just the county? Or is it illegal in the whole state? Why? It seems weird that people could be arrested for responding to an advertisement.


There's a local publication that is littered with ads for personal 1 on 1 massage sessions...by appointment only. I've always been curious about those.
 
2012-08-03 12:11:17 PM
How is this not entrapment?
 
2012-08-03 12:13:02 PM

signaljammer: //What's
//happened?


TrainingWheelsNeeded: After all, we have revenue to generate.

 
2012-08-03 12:15:01 PM
"Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county."

Ok, someone tell me how being in a porno is perfectly legal, but being a hooker isn't. In both instances, you are getting paid for having sex. In porn, you're just doing it in front of countless numbers of people and getting paid by a third party. I'm certainly not advocating making porn illegal, but it seems hypocritical for people to be all "ZOMG prostitution is so bad for society because of slippery slopes!!!" when those same arguments can be applied to the porn they watch after entrapping people for prostitution all day long.

Is it because porn is supposedly regulated? In that case, why isn't prostitution treated the same way?
 
2012-08-03 12:15:28 PM
I guess now that Phelps has shown pot to be the gateway to Olympic greatness, they have to call 'something' the gateway drug?

/legalize?
 
2012-08-03 12:18:21 PM

footshot: Let's make the assumption she services wholly formed people. If the smallest whole multiple of 0.85 is 20, then 20 * 0.85 = 17 Johns.

17 Johns in an hour and a quarter is pretty damn impressive!


Ew.
 
2012-08-03 12:19:23 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: MoronLessOff: Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.

I usually get off on the night shift.



Did you call Starkist?


That movie had the most extraordinary ass shot of Shelly Long. Or so I heard.
 
2012-08-03 12:20:39 PM

Itsluautime: "Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county."

Ok, someone tell me how being in a porno is perfectly legal, but being a hooker isn't. In both instances, you are getting paid for having sex. In porn, you're just doing it in front of countless numbers of people and getting paid by a third party. I'm certainly not advocating making porn illegal, but it seems hypocritical for people to be all "ZOMG prostitution is so bad for society because of slippery slopes!!!" when those same arguments can be applied to the porn they watch after entrapping people for prostitution all day long.

Is it because porn is supposedly regulated? In that case, why isn't prostitution treated the same way?


For your viewing
 
2012-08-03 12:22:27 PM

Wellon Dowd: I don't like being in Prince Georges County. I sure as hell don't want to be inside somebody in Prince Georges County.

Also, it's a miracle that none of the johns has been gunned down by the PGC cops.


Along with his dogs.
 
2012-08-03 12:26:13 PM

maxx2112: I never got my GED in law, so one of you experts tell me . . . how the hell is this not entrapment?


/ advertise sex for money
/ ????
/ public profit!


Youre not supposed to pay for it with real money silly. You have to take them some place fancy like Applebee's, and give them presents then you get the booty!
 
2012-08-03 12:30:35 PM
I'm not sure which job sounds less dignified, a professional whore or a pretend whore who tricks potential clients and arrests them.
 
2012-08-03 12:33:37 PM

signaljammer: Back when I was a kid, most of the cops had a little self-respect and had a de minimis concept. I've smoked pot with narcs, been let go with some titularly significant crap because 'it was just him and his buddies.' I could go on.

//What's
//happened?


You sound white.
 
2012-08-03 12:35:42 PM

T.M.S.: Lt. Cheese Weasel: MoronLessOff: Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.

I usually get off on the night shift.



Did you call Starkist?

That movie had the most extraordinary ass shot of Shelly Long. Or so I heard.


Never heard of it. Was she doing coke during her Cheers days? because that woman was built like a board -- straight up and down, no curves -- and definitely no ass to speak of. Coke is a hell of a drug :(

Got screen shots?
 
2012-08-03 12:38:48 PM
You get a good discount between 2-4. Plus the frequent farker card helps, too.
 
2012-08-03 12:48:19 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: T.M.S.: Lt. Cheese Weasel: MoronLessOff: Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.

I usually get off on the night shift.



Did you call Starkist?

That movie had the most extraordinary ass shot of Shelly Long. Or so I heard.

Never heard of it. Was she doing coke during her Cheers days? because that woman was built like a board -- straight up and down, no curves -- and definitely no ass to speak of. Coke is a hell of a drug :(

Got screen shots?


GIS Shelley Long Night Shift

It's better than I remember.
 
2012-08-03 12:48:35 PM
FTA;
"Prostitution is a gateway crime, leading to drugs," Capt. Leigh Mints told us. "It's also tied into robberies. It runs the gamut. And basically, we're trying to send the message that we're not going to tolerate it in this county."

Why do we let our public employees get away with spouting this crap?
They are the hired help, not the sociopath in charge.
 
2012-08-03 12:49:43 PM
To everyone crying entrapment: Entrapment only applies if you were coerced into an action that you wouldn't normally. So, a cop telling you to go buy drugs and then arresting you is entrapment, but soliciting someone is not.
 
2012-08-03 12:50:04 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: signaljammer: Back when I was a kid, most of the cops had a little self-respect and had a de minimis concept. I've smoked pot with narcs, been let go with some titularly significant crap because 'it was just him and his buddies.' I could go on.

//What's
//happened?

You sound white.



Yea, probably. If you're white and have a "Good Ol Boy" attitude around the cops, you can usually get away without a ticket for most things. I've even had it work on NYC cops. I've noticed the coastal cops usually get agitated quickly so a fast, "Well, shucks. I apologize for that. I'll make sure that I don't do that anymore." I really don't use the word 'shucks' unless speaking to a police officer or small child.

Have y'all ever seen the Dave Chappel skit about his friend who said, "Oh, I'm sorry officer. I didn't know I couldn't do that." That totally works! There's not even a ticket on my record ... yea, that's me ... pure as the freshly fallen snow. Ha ha! *eye roll*
 
2012-08-03 12:52:39 PM
 
2012-08-03 12:55:20 PM

Evil Canadian: I dunno guys, but apparently in our area (working class) shift change is a lot busier, at least by the street traffic we see. There are LOTS of women working at 7 am, I guess hoping for some guy getting off the night shift to provide some business.


This is the ultimate low hanging fruit for the cops.
Whole groups of cops, especially the cops of unusual size, FTA.
What a marvelous use of public funds to "protect" the public.
This sting is not cheap.

Cops make themselves the predators of the citizens/sex workers who cannot afford protection from cops.
Swell.
In other news, CitiBank,,,,
 
2012-08-03 01:00:46 PM
Aside from the obvious revenues from fines and the ability to blackmail people, what value is there in these prostitution stings?

Look at all of the time and energy being spent here. These guys aren't robbing people or trying to rape these women. They're trying to get their rocks off during lunch with a willing woman. The excuses the cops give for the sting are ridiculous - the same tired arguments used for marijuana, in fact.

I've never been a John (and never intend to be), nor have I ever imbibed illegal narcotics. I think both are poor choices, and they're not for me. I get that drugs go along with the scene, and I do think prostitution creates victims and that it turns women into sex objects, and that it's a life choice that I would never want to see a woman make for herself.

But I really don't understand why we pay our police to use these honeypot schemes to pick up people who aren't causing much harm to society while the police across the country are too busy or too disinterested to offer a timely response for robberies, burglaries or vandalism, all of which are much more of a nuisance. I also don't understand why we pay a police force to operate so heavily during the day when evenings and late nights are when many of these violent crimes are committed.
 
2012-08-03 01:12:47 PM
i336.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-03 01:22:43 PM

secularsage: Aside from the obvious revenues from fines and the ability to blackmail people, what value is there in these prostitution stings?

Look at all of the time and energy being spent here. These guys aren't robbing people or trying to rape these women. They're trying to get their rocks off during lunch with a willing woman. The excuses the cops give for the sting are ridiculous - the same tired arguments used for marijuana, in fact.

I've never been a John (and never intend to be), nor have I ever imbibed illegal narcotics. I think both are poor choices, and they're not for me. I get that drugs go along with the scene, and I do think prostitution creates victims and that it turns women into sex objects, and that it's a life choice that I would never want to see a woman make for herself.

But I really don't understand why we pay our police to use these honeypot schemes to pick up people who aren't causing much harm to society while the police across the country are too busy or too disinterested to offer a timely response for robberies, burglaries or vandalism, all of which are much more of a nuisance. I also don't understand why we pay a police force to operate so heavily during the day when evenings and late nights are when many of these violent crimes are committed.


Somebody just stole two air conditioner units down the block to sell for scrap.
Neighbor had his car stolen out of his driveway.
Two nuns got mugged at the Walgreens, down the way.

But there is no more quickies at lunchtime.
Give yerself a raise, Lou.
 
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