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2012-08-03 02:29:09 PM  

skullkrusher: Releasing 12 years of tax returns is not a tradition.


It is in the Romney family.
 
2012-08-03 02:31:21 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: skullkrusher: Releasing 12 years of tax returns is not a tradition.

It is in the Romney family.



Apparently not
 
2012-08-03 02:31:30 PM  

skullkrusher: Romney still had to sign his returns. He knew what was in there.


Actually, he has already used the excuse that he didn't read his tax returns when he signed them the LAST time he was caught lying about his tax returns.

/see previous links if you doubt this.
 
2012-08-03 02:32:35 PM  

colon_pow: i bet romney has nothing to hide and he's just playing the opposition. he'll probably offer to trade one year's tax return for obamas college transcripts. maybe another year for the fast and furious documents, and so on.


The dumb hurts.
 
2012-08-03 02:33:09 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: skullkrusher: Releasing 12 years of tax returns is not a tradition.

It is in the Romney family.


when thinking they'll be running against LBJ
 
2012-08-03 02:33:17 PM  

Paul Baumer: Mitt can be as charitable as he likes with his own dough, but I wish he'd quit giving away mine - I am sure the rest of US taxpayers will be thrilled to find out they have been supporting the LDS church AND reducing Mitt's tax liability by foregoing the tax due on that money.




Wait, What? Mitt's money is your money? Or did Mitt the wimp kick your ass and take your money? Please do explain.

/brb, getting popcorn
 
2012-08-03 02:33:51 PM  

Skleenar: skullkrusher: Romney still had to sign his returns. He knew what was in there.

Actually, he has already used the excuse that he didn't read his tax returns when he signed them the LAST time he was caught lying about his tax returns.

/see previous links if you doubt this.


why kind of idiot does something like that? Get a brane, mormon.
 
2012-08-03 02:34:52 PM  

skullkrusher:

he's released 2 years. Less than most, more than some since his father's campaign. 12 years of returns isn't anything resembling a tradition. As I said, I think BO is the only candidate since Romney the Elder to do so


Here's a pretty good summary

2008: Obama 7. McCain: 2

2004 Bush: 9 years (before being elected in 2000). Kerry: 20 years

2000 Bush 9, Gore 8 (as VP)

1996: Dole 30, Clinton 12 (before 1992)

It goes back to Reagan-Carter. Looks like the only one who refused was Perot.
 
2012-08-03 02:37:28 PM  
Teabaggers: "Well Romney's rich and he didn't pay taxes, so if none of us pay taxes we'll all be rich!"

I wish I was joking, but I expect something like this to become gospel for them if Romney ends up getting exposed as a tax dodger.
 
2012-08-03 02:38:53 PM  

Sgt Otter: skullkrusher:

he's released 2 years. Less than most, more than some since his father's campaign. 12 years of returns isn't anything resembling a tradition. As I said, I think BO is the only candidate since Romney the Elder to do so

Here's a pretty good summary

2008: Obama 7. McCain: 2

2004 Bush: 9 years (before being elected in 2000). Kerry: 20 years

2000 Bush 9, Gore 8 (as VP)

1996: Dole 30, Clinton 12 (before 1992)

It goes back to Reagan-Carter. Looks like the only one who refused was Perot.


Links to the returns for some of those doods

Dayum, FDR
 
2012-08-03 02:40:17 PM  

cgw_niu: Paul Baumer: Mitt can be as charitable as he likes with his own dough, but I wish he'd quit giving away mine - I am sure the rest of US taxpayers will be thrilled to find out they have been supporting the LDS church AND reducing Mitt's tax liability by foregoing the tax due on that money.



Wait, What? Mitt's money is your money? Or did Mitt the wimp kick your ass and take your money? Please do explain.

/brb, getting popcorn


You do understand that any tax money not collected has to be covered by the rest of us suckers in the form of T-bills, right? Hope you didn't burn the popcorn - you probably shouldn't operate a microwave if you don't grasp how tax avoidance is the same thing as putting money in your pocket and taking it out of mine.
 
2012-08-03 02:45:52 PM  

Paul Baumer: cgw_niu: Paul Baumer: Mitt can be as charitable as he likes with his own dough, but I wish he'd quit giving away mine - I am sure the rest of US taxpayers will be thrilled to find out they have been supporting the LDS church AND reducing Mitt's tax liability by foregoing the tax due on that money.



Wait, What? Mitt's money is your money? Or did Mitt the wimp kick your ass and take your money? Please do explain.

/brb, getting popcorn

You do understand that any tax money not collected has to be covered by the rest of us suckers in the form of T-bills, right? Hope you didn't burn the popcorn - you probably shouldn't operate a microwave if you don't grasp how tax avoidance is the same thing as putting money in your pocket and taking it out of mine.



So you are part of the top 1% or are you part of the top 10%? If you are getting a single dollar from the Government then you are the reason for the T-bils. We are in debt because of the horrid spending and NOT tax revenue.

My popcorn is good and butter, thanks
 
2012-08-03 02:47:20 PM  

cgw_niu: We are in debt because of the horrid spending and NOT tax revenue.


If you say so.
 
2012-08-03 02:48:46 PM  
Perhaps CNN should stick to what they do best... playing crappy music.

img.over-blog.com
 
2012-08-03 02:48:57 PM  

Captain Dan: HeartBurnKid: Explain how a progressive consumption tax would work without creating an even greater level of bureaucracy than we have now.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=progressive+consumption+tax+implementation


Ah, yes, "Go Google it". The new way to say "I got nothing".

I bolded the important part of my question, there. Everybody who brings up the idea talks about complicated "prebate" schemes (which would create hideous levels of bureaucracy), and the only alternative I can think of would be tracking every single purchase to determine the effective rate (which, besides the obvious privacy issues, would create an even worse one).
 
2012-08-03 02:53:03 PM  

LordJiro: Brick-House: Captain Dan: Romney should offer to release his tax returns in exchange for Obama releasing his college transcripts. It would be an instant Great Moments in Politics.

/they're both probably mildly embarrassing but innocuous

[obamaballotchallenge.com image 500x431]

Still wondering what kind of shiat you drooling retards would hope to see in the college records.


Oh, I don't know. Like how he qualified to even get into these schools with his admitted shiatty Highschool record.

Who paid for college

What grades did he get in Economics -- because he's failing now.

Papers he wrote (assuming he actually wrote them unlike his books)
 
2012-08-03 02:56:57 PM  

cgw_niu: Paul Baumer: cgw_niu: Paul Baumer: Mitt can be as charitable as he likes with his own dough, but I wish he'd quit giving away mine - I am sure the rest of US taxpayers will be thrilled to find out they have been supporting the LDS church AND reducing Mitt's tax liability by foregoing the tax due on that money.



Wait, What? Mitt's money is your money? Or did Mitt the wimp kick your ass and take your money? Please do explain.

/brb, getting popcorn

You do understand that any tax money not collected has to be covered by the rest of us suckers in the form of T-bills, right? Hope you didn't burn the popcorn - you probably shouldn't operate a microwave if you don't grasp how tax avoidance is the same thing as putting money in your pocket and taking it out of mine.


So you are part of the top 1% or are you part of the top 10%? If you are getting a single dollar from the Government then you are the reason for the T-bils. We are in debt because of the horrid spending and NOT tax revenue.

My popcorn is good and butter, thanks


Aside from being WTF? level meaningless, this is factually incorrect. Debt service was 500B last year. I don't think I'll be talking to you any more
 
2012-08-03 03:02:37 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Skleenar: jackieeeee: In short: tax info, very big deal. Everyone who has access is tracked.

Of course the person who is this source may not have official access. He may just be parroting a Romney boast over oefs au creme anglaise at the National Dressage Association breakfast.

Man, now I want oeufs au creme anglaise avec cheval et les enfants des le troiseme etat.


I studied French. You're one sick puppy.

/What do you have against NJ anyway?
//Waitaminnit... *looks closer* Governor Christie?
 
2012-08-03 03:06:22 PM  

skullkrusher: Skleenar: skullkrusher: Romney still had to sign his returns. He knew what was in there.

Actually, he has already used the excuse that he didn't read his tax returns when he signed them the LAST time he was caught lying about his tax returns.

/see previous links if you doubt this.

why kind of idiot does something like that? Get a brane, mormon.


I'm giving that one a "Smartest" and a "Funniest".
 
2012-08-03 03:06:37 PM  

skullkrusher: he's released 2 years. Less than most, more than some since his father's campaign. 12 years of returns isn't anything resembling a tradition. As I said, I think BO is the only candidate since Romney the Elder to do so


Obama: 12 years of returns
W. Bush: 8 years of returns
Clinton: 8 years of returns
Bush: 3 years of returns
Reagan: 6 years of returns
Carter: 3 years of returns
Ford: provided a tax summary spanning ten years, but not the actual returns
Nixon 4 years of returns

Romney provided his full 2010 returns. He also provided part of his 2011 return, but not enough to paint a clear picture of his dealings for that year.

It is entirely fair to say that Romney is not being forthcoming when compared to all the presidents of my lifetime. That is fact.
 
2012-08-03 03:12:01 PM  
I wonder if Romney offered a $10 million bet with CNN and Harry Reid about whether he paid income taxes, if either would have the courage of their accusations to take it.

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-03 03:16:51 PM  

Gimmick: It is entirely fair to say that Romney is not being forthcoming when compared to all the presidents of my lifetime. That is fact.


sure. It's also fair to say that 12 years of returns isn't a tradition. Which is what I said.
 
2012-08-03 03:18:33 PM  

jjorsett: I wonder if Romney offered a $10 million bet with CNN and Harry Reid about whether he paid income taxes, if either would have the courage of their accusations to take it.

[i50.tinypic.com image 512x288]


That was a lot of work for an incomprehensible point
 
2012-08-03 03:19:19 PM  
If Romney is trying to playi rope-a-dope with his tax returns, he's either the most masterful player in history, or he's the dope.

My money is on Romney being the dope.
 
2012-08-03 03:19:59 PM  
YAWN...call me when they release Obama's Birth Certificate
 
2012-08-03 03:20:50 PM  

Halli: That's good for you. It won't change the fact that Romney is secretive about something that every presidential candidate has released for decades starting with Romney's own father


FTFY. Can't be repeated too often.
 
2012-08-03 03:21:32 PM  
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2012-08-03 03:23:29 PM  
I watched the AC360 last night and Dana Bash said nothing even remotely close to that. If she said anything like that it was today not yesterday.
 
2012-08-03 03:27:44 PM  

jjorsett: I wonder if Romney offered a $10 million bet with CNN and Harry Reid about whether he paid income taxes, if either would have the courage of their accusations to take it.

[i50.tinypic.com image 512x288]


Harry should see a doctor for that chunk of skull he's missing from the back of his head.
 
2012-08-03 03:27:57 PM  

sprawl15: HeartBurnKid: imontheinternet: Her anonymous "credible source" confirmed that some guy is saying that Romney paid 0 taxes. This is a bullshiat non-story. When somebody is ready to go on the record in front of a camera, you've got a story, until then leave it alone.

As we all know, responsible reporters only report what's on record. That's why we knew the identity of Deep Throat from day 1.

img52.imageshack.us

"Harry. These bastards need to burn for letting me fail to Konstantin Pavolvich Loshadev. I wanted to perform a croupade, but Anne told me that an Oldenburg could never manage it! My father goes unavenged. Here are the returns."


I can't favorite this hard enough. Jesus, I almost pooped...
 
2012-08-03 03:30:45 PM  

Skleenar: jjorsett: I wonder if Romney offered a $10 million bet with CNN and Harry Reid about whether he paid income taxes, if either would have the courage of their accusations to take it.

[i50.tinypic.com image 512x288]

That was a lot of work for an incomprehensible point


Just consider the source.
 
2012-08-03 03:34:19 PM  

sprawl15: img52.imageshack.us

"Harry. These bastards need to burn for letting me fail to Konstantin Pavolvich Loshadev. I wanted to perform a croupade, but Anne told me that an Oldenburg could never manage it! My father goes unavenged. Here are the returns."


YESSS!
 
2012-08-03 03:42:30 PM  
How interesting is it that there's not a single mention of the unemployment numbers on Fark today... guess a tweet by Fred Thompson or another horse-beating thread about Romney's taxes is more important than another month of 8%+ unemployment.

/ Obama 2012: Confuse. Inveigle. Obfuscate.
 
2012-08-03 03:47:16 PM  

Rann Xerox: More_Like_A_Stain: Rann Xerox: LOL!!!! ♪ Geor-gie Tirebiter..... ♫

Good times!


You sound old. At least you would if I could get this damned hearing aid to go loud enough to hear you. Bel-Tone my ass.

An ear trumpet works a whole lot better for me and at half the cost.


Have you tried more belt onions? Worked for me.
 
2012-08-03 03:51:01 PM  

WombatControl: How interesting is it that there's not a single mention of the unemployment numbers on Fark today... guess a tweet by Fred Thompson or another horse-beating thread about Romney's taxes is more important than another month of 8%+ unemployment.

/ Obama 2012: Confuse. Inveigle. Obfuscate.


You're not very bright, are you?

July unemployment ↑, June employment numbers revised ↓, American public still caught between ↔
 
2012-08-03 03:54:20 PM  
A small part of me harbors some small, tiny thought that republicans are being thoughtful and playing the long game with this tax returns stuff. Let it simmer, release at the convention and nothing's there.

Realistically though, Romney is just an entitled tard that has never, ever had his number called on his bullshiat. That's far, far more plausible. What's in it? Probably amnesty from 2009 at the very least. Damn sure a low % of taxes paid on income, which would explode this myth of trickle down job creators nonsense the 'pubs have been pushing for a generation.
 
2012-08-03 03:56:10 PM  

Sgt Otter: WombatControl: How interesting is it that there's not a single mention of the unemployment numbers on Fark today... guess a tweet by Fred Thompson or another horse-beating thread about Romney's taxes is more important than another month of 8%+ unemployment.

/ Obama 2012: Confuse. Inveigle. Obfuscate.

You're not very bright, are you?

July unemployment ↑, June employment numbers revised ↓, American public still caught between ↔


If you take away a Republicans ability to whine and feel persecuted what else will they have??
 
2012-08-03 03:59:54 PM  

Infernalist: skullkrusher: secularsage: My theory: Romney really did believe he paid federal taxes, and the people who are in charge of his money never really talked about it with him because, well, why would they? He's paying them to maximize his tax benefits and protect his wealth.

Now, he's found out that he's put his foot in his mouth because he's paid none, and he's embarrassed and afraid to admit the truth.

It's like...Having accidentally caught himself on fire, he'd rather burn to death rather than strip off his burning clothes and be embarrassed at being flabby and pale and naked.


Or showing the girl skin he's wearing underneath.
 
2012-08-03 04:07:00 PM  

Brick-House: LordJiro: Brick-House: Captain Dan: Romney should offer to release his tax returns in exchange for Obama releasing his college transcripts. It would be an instant Great Moments in Politics.

/they're both probably mildly embarrassing but innocuous

[obamaballotchallenge.com image 500x431]

Still wondering what kind of shiat you drooling retards would hope to see in the college records.

Oh, I don't know. Like how he qualified to even get into these schools with his admitted shiatty Highschool record.

Who paid for college

What grades did he get in Economics -- because he's failing now.

Papers he wrote (assuming he actually wrote them unlike his books)


You seriously want Obama to release papers he wrote in college? Why would he?
 
2012-08-03 04:07:44 PM  

WombatControl: How interesting is it that there's not a single mention of the unemployment numbers on Fark today... guess a tweet by Fred Thompson or another horse-beating thread about Romney's taxes is more important than another month of 8%+ unemployment.

/ Obama 2012: Confuse. Inveigle. Obfuscate.


The U3 is important again? How come Conservatives only consider this indicator as important when it increases? Since Obama signed his first budget, the U3 has dropped from 10% to 8.3%.
 
2012-08-03 04:08:09 PM  
The point of this isn't to make Romney do anything, it's to keep the story on the front page... The really hilarious part is that this is nothing but upside for the Obama campaign; if Romney surrogates attack Reid the story stays on the front page, if they release the tax returns then they have to deal with consequences of the release, ignoring it at this point isn't an option.

Reid is retiring after his next term most likely and like the honey-badger, he does not give a fark. So if you think he gives one fark about a bunch of yahoos calling him a pederast because they think it somehow proves a point I have news for you blockheads: he loves it. Because there are 99 days left before the election and every day Mitt Romney and his surrogates spend defending his decision not to release his tax returns or attacking people who are attacking him for not releasing his tax returns is another day the Romney campaign loses.

Check out 538.... Right now Obama is in the best position poll wise than he has ever been in the race, and this is after months of terrible economic news. Romney needs to change the subject , badly, but he can't until he releases the tax returns, but the very fact that he hasn't releasedthem yet suggests that doing so would sink his campaign.

This ladies and gentlemen is hardball politics at its absolute finest, this is the Chicago style shiat that the republicans have in their heart of hearts been hoping the democrats were to ball-less to ever use. Romney is on the ground and they are going to keep stabbing until he stops moving. I almost feel bad for him.
 
2012-08-03 04:08:34 PM  

Gimmick: "Better to remain silent and be thought a tax cheat fool than to release your records speak and remove all doubt" - Abraham Lincoln


The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they are genuine. - Abraham Lincoln
 
2012-08-03 04:13:30 PM  

mrshowrules: WombatControl: How interesting is it that there's not a single mention of the unemployment numbers on Fark today... guess a tweet by Fred Thompson or another horse-beating thread about Romney's taxes is more important than another month of 8%+ unemployment.

/ Obama 2012: Confuse. Inveigle. Obfuscate.

The U3 is important again? How come Conservatives only consider this indicator as important when it increases? Since Obama signed his first budget, the U3 has dropped from 10% to 8.3%.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-03 04:16:23 PM  
I've heard from very creditable sources that Harry Reid molested young boys in his senate office. I can't confirm this but the word is out Mr. Reid. Now you have to prove that you didn't molest all those young boys.
 
2012-08-03 04:17:06 PM  
One would think that someone who believes that the income tax code as currently constituted is both economically unwise and onerous on "job creators" would be anxious to prove that point with his own personal experience with the income tax as a "job creator". One would think that, anyway.
 
2012-08-03 04:19:25 PM  
Oh noes, labor force participation is dropping! I mean there's not any demographic shift (such as baby-boomers retiring) that could explain this national catastrophe!
 
2012-08-03 04:22:39 PM  

amiable: This ladies and gentlemen is hardball politics at its absolute finest, this is the Chicago style shiat that the republicans have in their heart of hearts been hoping the democrats were to ball-less to ever use. Romney is on the ground and they are going to keep stabbing until he stops moving. I almost feel bad for him.


Well, no. That's kind of the issue. Obama's campaign chided McCain for not releasing his medical report early on as well. McCain got hit on it and then released the report. It was a jab. A test to see what McCain would do. Obama didn't really think anything terrible would come out of those medical records.

Asking for Romney's tax returns was the same thing. Push him, see what happens, and then move on knowing more about how your opponent reacts. Instead Romney disintegrated. It's just by luck and Romney's poor management that this small early test turned into a firestorm. Obama hasn't even started to play hardball.
 
2012-08-03 04:23:30 PM  

amiable: The point of this isn't to make Romney do anything, it's to keep the story on the front page... The really hilarious part is that this is nothing but upside for the Obama campaign; if Romney surrogates attack Reid the story stays on the front page, if they release the tax returns then they have to deal with consequences of the release, ignoring it at this point isn't an option.

Reid is retiring after his next term most likely and like the honey-badger, he does not give a fark. So if you think he gives one fark about a bunch of yahoos calling him a pederast because they think it somehow proves a point I have news for you blockheads: he loves it. Because there are 99 days left before the election and every day Mitt Romney and his surrogates spend defending his decision not to release his tax returns or attacking people who are attacking him for not releasing his tax returns is another day the Romney campaign loses.

Check out 538.... Right now Obama is in the best position poll wise than he has ever been in the race, and this is after months of terrible economic news. Romney needs to change the subject , badly, but he can't until he releases the tax returns, but the very fact that he hasn't releasedthem yet suggests that doing so would sink his campaign.

This ladies and gentlemen is hardball politics at its absolute finest, this is the Chicago style shiat that the republicans have in their heart of hearts been hoping the democrats were to ball-less to ever use. Romney is on the ground and they are going to keep stabbing until he stops moving. I almost feel bad for him.


Except Romney has been gathering money all summer while Obama has been spending it.

Right now, the polls don't matter that much. This is the deadest time in a campaign - most Americans are on vacation and Olympics are on. The tracking polls have not changed that much - other than the Pew poll that's a laughable outlier.

Yes, 538 has Obama up in their prediction pool. But that's a prediction, not a poll. All that's saying is based on what Nate Silver's model thinks, if all the trends remain constant, Obama will have a 70% chance of winning. But the trends will not remain constant. Romney isn't collecting cash to hoard it, he's collecting cash to unleash it on Obama in the fall when A:) he can start spending on the general election and B.) voters are actually paying attention to the race.

If you back away from all the polling and look at the economic numbers, Obama's approval numbers, and the right track/wrong track figures, Obama's chances of winning don't look all that good.

It's fair to say Obama's ahead at this point in the game, but the only poll that really matters is in November, and I suspect all the Obama Cheerleaders proclaiming assured victory now might not be quite so pleased in the fall.
 
2012-08-03 04:36:22 PM  
Believe what you want to believe wombat. Romney will have a large warchest for sure, but advertising doesn't help much if your product is crap. (ask American car manufacturers in the 80's about this). Obama may not have the cash advantage going into the fall, but he will be far from defenseless. Romney had to spend millions of dollars to beat newt Gingrich for god's sakes. Where is Romney going to get the oxygen to fuel his campaign? Out of context Obama quotes? Pretty much all Obama has to do is send out another surrogate to go after romney's taxes and the narrative immediately switches back. Next week it will be bill Clinton, the week after Hillary, etc....

Romney is farked until he makes this issue go away and he can't until he releases his taxes.

Wombat bookmark this post, if Romney wins in November I will happily eat crow, but frankly I do not see any possible way this happens unless the republicans by some miracle find a better candidate.


Romney will get a bump for his convention, but after that
 
2012-08-03 04:44:46 PM  

WombatControl: Romney isn't collecting cash to hoard it, he's collecting cash to unleash it on Obama in the fall when A:) he can start spending on the general election and B.) voters are actually paying attention to the race.


And say what, exactly? Every line of attack has been flogged to death and Obama is still net positive favorable. And perhaps it's the "deadest time" for you, but Romney is being defined daily as Old Man Potter with less charm and worse impulse control. He's never going to change the meme, and every time he opens his mouth to, he merely reinforces it. So you just keep looking for your October Surprise - because it's going to take that and then some.
 
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