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2012-08-03 12:13:52 PM

Captain Dan: qorkfiend: Yes, but there's clearly no advantage to keeping the returns hidden, either. So Romney believes there is a greater advantage to keeping them hidden than releasing them; this inevitably leads to speculation as to why it is more beneficial for Romney to keep them hidden.

Mitt Romney is a very smart guy, smarter than anyone posting on Fark at the least. He's obviously calculated that the speculation over his tax returns is less harmful than what might happen if he did release them. [He might decide to release that information, but not because "it's the right thing." He'll do so only if it's the smart move.]

My guess is that he paid very little income tax, because like most wealthy people the majority of his earnings came from capital gains. Any educated person would understand this, but most people are financially illiterate, and could be swayed by misleading Democratic claims that "Romney paid less [income] taxes than you did!"

You might scoff, but some dipshiat undecided voter would eat it up.


That's my point. He's calculated that speculation is better than releasing them. As the speculation gets wilder and the calculation remains valid, the question of "What's in those returns, exactly, and why does he need to keep it hidden?" starts to pop up, and often. This does not qualify as a smart strategy; the more you keep them hidden, the more people want to know what you're keeping hidden and why.

They won't make that claim. The claim that has been made and will continue to be made by the campaign is that Romney paid a lower rate than you did. This claim has the added bonus of being accurate.
 
2012-08-03 12:15:19 PM

cgw_niu: so what laws are we asserting that Romney broke?


None. What we're asserting is that he's a dickbag that we shouldn't put in charge of the country. We're just speculating that he may have broken some laws (specifically, reporting all your income, even the bit hidden in swiss bank accounts).
 
2012-08-03 12:16:41 PM

qorkfiend: Captain Dan: qorkfiend: Yes, but there's clearly no advantage to keeping the returns hidden, either. So Romney believes there is a greater advantage to keeping them hidden than releasing them; this inevitably leads to speculation as to why it is more beneficial for Romney to keep them hidden.

Mitt Romney is a very smart guy, smarter than anyone posting on Fark at the least. He's obviously calculated that the speculation over his tax returns is less harmful than what might happen if he did release them. [He might decide to release that information, but not because "it's the right thing." He'll do so only if it's the smart move.]

My guess is that he paid very little income tax, because like most wealthy people the majority of his earnings came from capital gains. Any educated person would understand this, but most people are financially illiterate, and could be swayed by misleading Democratic claims that "Romney paid less [income] taxes than you did!"

You might scoff, but some dipshiat undecided voter would eat it up.

That's my point. He's calculated that speculation is better than releasing them. As the speculation gets wilder and the calculation remains valid, the question of "What's in those returns, exactly, and why does he need to keep it hidden?" starts to pop up, and often. This does not qualify as a smart strategy; the more you keep them hidden, the more people want to know what you're keeping hidden and why.

They won't make that claim. The claim that has been made and will continue to be made by the campaign is that Romney paid a lower rate than you did. This claim has the added bonus of being accurate.


More than that, Reid made an excellent move by going All-In with the speculation.

Rather than sit back and let the speculation slowly build from 'bad' to 'omfg he paid no taxes for a decade!', he pushed it straight to the worst speculation possible.

It was a great move that forces Romney to either endure 'that' nugget of painful speculation that WON'T GO AWAY for the next three months, or release his tax records.
 
2012-08-03 12:17:50 PM

cgw_niu: so what laws are we asserting that Romney broke?


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2012-08-03 12:18:00 PM

incendi: cgw_niu: so what laws are we asserting that Romney broke?

None. What we're asserting is that he's a dickbag that we shouldn't put in charge of the country. We're just speculating that he may have broken some laws (specifically, reporting all your income, even the bit hidden in swiss bank accounts).




So you guys are just idiots then.


/I know, "Welcome to Fark"
 
2012-08-03 12:18:14 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: This just in, if you have low income, you don't have to pay income taxes.

Income is not the same as wealth.

Someone worth $250M who doesn't draw a salary and doesn't have net stock gains and lives off of savings, won't pay any income taxes.


So, basically Romney has been sitting on his ass since he resigned from Bain living off of savings? That's a fine record of job creation this past decade.
 
2012-08-03 12:18:31 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: skullkrusher: It is certainly something that can be done but I just don't think it is a likely candidate for avoiding paying taxes for 10 years. It's difficult to pull off and more likely a move of opportunity rather than design

Romney didn't take a salary as governor, he even paid for his own travel. After he left Bain, besides capital gains, not sure where his income would come from. I doubt he was paid for his work on the Olympics. It isn't as if he needed the money.

Any good money manager would make sure that any sales of stocks would not result in a tax bill.




Wouldn't it be easier if he'd just release those returns, instead of you having to make up what theoretically may have occurred? I see though that you're presuming that yes, indeed, he has a 0% tax rate.
 
2012-08-03 12:19:04 PM

Skleenar: tenpoundsofcheese: Skleenar: Since we're playing the "college transcripts = tax returns" game, what precedent is there for the release of presidential college transcripts?

why does precedent matter? this isn't a legal issue.

Besides, 0bama broke precedent when he decided to opt out of public funding of his campaign in 2008. That had huge implications beyond any whining about Mitt's taxes.

So....another unrelated thing is somehow equivalent? Are you sure you have enough potassium in your diet to ensure proper synapse firing?


Wait, you were whining about precedent. Opting out of public funding has far more implications than whether someone didn't legally have to pay taxes. Did you whine about that precedent-breaking move by 0bama?

This isn't a legal issue, so citing precedent is irrelevant.

Ohhh, synapse reference. Oh no, I am dealing with an intellectual!!
 
2012-08-03 12:19:13 PM

Close2TheEdge: As much as I would like to believe this story, it can't possibly be true. Here's why. Let's assume for a moment that the story about McCain seeing Mitten's returns and rejecting him is true. A secret like this, if true, was bound to come out eventually. I find it very hard to believe that McCain himself, wouldn't have said to RNC leaders, "Listen, this guy will be a disaster if you let him get close to the nomination." There is just no way he paid zero taxes for 10 years. No way.


The story isn't true - both McCain and Steve Schmidt have come out and said that they looked at 23 years of Romney's tax returns and saw nothing disqualifying in them.

Romney wasn't picked as VP in 2008 because of taxes, he wasn't picked as VP in 2008 because he and McCain didn't get along that well and because McCain needed a Hail Mary play to try and catch up to Obama. Which is why he went with Palin instead of the safer Pawlenty.
 
2012-08-03 12:19:25 PM

cgw_niu: incendi: cgw_niu: so what laws are we asserting that Romney broke?

None. What we're asserting is that he's a dickbag that we shouldn't put in charge of the country. We're just speculating that he may have broken some laws (specifically, reporting all your income, even the bit hidden in swiss bank accounts).



So you guys are just idiots then.


/I know, "Welcome to Fark"


I love how "He's not a criminal!" is good enough for GOPers when it comes to selecting someone to be President.
 
2012-08-03 12:19:34 PM

qorkfiend: They won't make that claim. The claim that has been made and will continue to be made by the campaign is that Romney paid a lower rate than you did. This claim has the added bonus of being accurate.


If you don't think that Democrats will misleading conflate lower tax rates with "less in taxes," you are too innocent for politics.

Close2TheEdge: Kinda like "OBAMA IS GONNA TAKE AWAY ALL YER' GUNS!"

You mean bullshiat like that?


Exactly. It's shameful bullshiat no matter which side is doing it. The response to partisan bullshiat should be: "that's atrocious behavior, and should be mocked," not "we need to do the same, except bullshiattier."
 
2012-08-03 12:20:10 PM

StanleyPuff: /Mitt's been too high profile for too long...



People are giving Mitt way too much credit over this "he's been running for Pres for so long - he can't be that stupid."

OF COURSE HE CAN BE THAT STUPID. He does not view the world the way we do. He is a filthy rich guy surrounded his entire life by other filthy rich people. To them, hiding money away in off-shore tax havens, exploiting loopholes, etc. -- it's all standard operating procedure. And (probably) none of it's illegal.

The guy is also likely an extreme narcissist -- if you've never dealt with one of those - a REAL one - it's a trip. Nothing they do is ever wrong. To him, not paying taxes for 10 years would be a WIN on such an extreme level that how could it be perceived as wrong? Him and all his buddies are high-fiving over how wonderful they are at getting richer and paying as little as possible back into the system.

In short, I don't think Rmoney is capable of comprehending that this could be as big of a problem for him as it's proving to be.
 
2012-08-03 12:21:21 PM
Maybe this is like the CBS fiasco with Bush and his National Guard Service.

1) Report that he never paid taxes using a shiatty source.
2) Blogs et al. tear the source to shreds
3) Accusation is retracted and issue dies.
 
2012-08-03 12:21:35 PM

Infernalist: I love how "He's not a criminal!" "You can't prove he's a criminal!" is good enough for GOPers when it comes to selecting someone to be President.


FTFY.
 
2012-08-03 12:22:20 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Wait, you were whining about precedent. Opting out of public funding has far more implications than whether someone didn't legally have to pay taxes. Did you whine about that precedent-breaking move by 0bama?


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2012-08-03 12:22:27 PM

Close2TheEdge: A secret like this, if true, was bound to come out eventually.



It has come out. It's why we're all talking about it right now.
 
2012-08-03 12:22:32 PM

Captain Dan: My guess is that he paid very little income tax, because like most wealthy people the majority of his earnings came from capital gains.


The fact that this makes a difference is part of the problem. Romney has been arguing that the rich should have a lower tax rate when they already pay a lower one on the vast majority of their income thanks to that very distinction (among other tricks and loopholes they lobby for).
 
2012-08-03 12:22:57 PM

shower_in_my_socks: In short, I don't think Rmoney is capable of comprehending.

 
2012-08-03 12:23:23 PM

WombatControl: The story isn't true - both McCain and Steve Schmidt have come out and said that they looked at 23 years of Romney's tax returns and saw nothing disqualifying in them.


Link

Schmidht never actually saw them. McCain is never going to badmouth a GOP candidate for president so that point is moot.
 
2012-08-03 12:23:41 PM

Infernalist: I love how "He's not a criminal!" is good enough for GOPers when it comes to selecting someone to be President.


Hey, as long as Romney didn't directly, specifically kill any of his family members and has an R next to his name what more do you need?
 
2012-08-03 12:24:02 PM

Captain Dan: qorkfiend: They won't make that claim. The claim that has been made and will continue to be made by the campaign is that Romney paid a lower rate than you did. This claim has the added bonus of being accurate.

If you don't think that Democrats will misleading conflate lower tax rates with "less in taxes," you are too innocent for politics.

Close2TheEdge: Kinda like "OBAMA IS GONNA TAKE AWAY ALL YER' GUNS!"

You mean bullshiat like that?

Exactly. It's shameful bullshiat no matter which side is doing it. The response to partisan bullshiat should be: "that's atrocious behavior, and should be mocked," not "we need to do the same, except bullshiattier."


I agree, except for two things:

(1) There's a fundamental difference between the birth certificate issue and Romney's taxes. There are legitimate questions about Romney's employment history with two different, contradictory stories each with supporting evidence. There was no such dispute with the President's birth certificate.

(2) One side has been doing it for a whole hell of a lot longer and over things that are a lot more...crazy. Saying that Obama was not born in Hawaii despite mountains of evidence to the contrary is not the same as saying "Mitt paid no taxes" when there is actually no evidence either way. Saying that Obama is gonna take your guns and impose Sharia law is demonstrably false, whereas saying Mitt paid either no taxes or far less than his income should have warranted is believable. As for the crazy stuff spewing out of the Right, there have been elected officials at all levels of the government saying those things, so don't try to say that it was just crazy bloggers.
 
2012-08-03 12:25:20 PM

djkutch: tenpoundsofcheese: This just in, if you have low income, you don't have to pay income taxes.

Income is not the same as wealth.

Someone worth $250M who doesn't draw a salary and doesn't have net stock gains and lives off of savings, won't pay any income taxes.

So, basically Romney has been sitting on his ass since he resigned from Bain living off of savings? That's a fine record of job creation this past decade.


uhhh, he was Governor (didn't take a salary) and ran the Olympics (don't know if he got a salary, but I doubt it).
 
2012-08-03 12:26:52 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: not sure where his income would come from


Yeah no one knows either.
 
2012-08-03 12:27:24 PM
If Mitt releases more tax returns, he will have many more charges, baseless or not, to answer to. He will have to answer charges based on every page of his tax returns, and stories about every deduction he made.
Right now all he has to answer to is a charge with no evidence and a story that sounds exaggerated. You don't hand ammo to your opposition.
 
2012-08-03 12:27:38 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Close2TheEdge: A secret like this, if true, was bound to come out eventually.


It has come out. It's why we're all talking about it right now.


Well, yes, but it's still only in the realm of speculation. Now, if th

Captain Dan: qorkfiend: They won't make that claim. The claim that has been made and will continue to be made by the campaign is that Romney paid a lower rate than you did. This claim has the added bonus of being accurate.

If you don't think that Democrats will misleading conflate lower tax rates with "less in taxes," you are too innocent for politics.

Close2TheEdge: Kinda like "OBAMA IS GONNA TAKE AWAY ALL YER' GUNS!"

You mean bullshiat like that?

Exactly. It's shameful bullshiat no matter which side is doing it. The response to partisan bullshiat should be: "that's atrocious behavior, and should be mocked," not "we need to do the same, except bullshiattier."


Why not do both? Seems a pretty effective way to mock it to me.
 
2012-08-03 12:28:04 PM

Captain Dan: Lord Dimwit: Y'all went crazy about Obama's "long-form birth certificate" - something that no prior President had ever released publicly.

Now, Mitt won't release his tax returns - something that every Presidential candidate back to Mitt's father has done - and y'all are saying that it's okay.,

So...yeah. I would be flabbergasted if just once a Republican would admit that maybe their side is doing something just a teeny bit hypocritical.

I'm a Republican. I think birtherism is nuts, the manifestation of an irrational hatred of Obama and liberals. If you hate a person or group enough, you can believe any conspiracy about them.

This strain of thinking isn't limited to Obama. Irrational conspiracies regarding Bill & Hillary Clinton abounded in the 1990s. The only difference now is that Fox News, partisan blogs, and email are catapulting the misinformation more efficiently.

The Romney tax issue is as conspiratorial and politically insular as Birtherism. All it lacks is a catchy name.


Well there's also the fact that a major part of romney's platform has to do with cutting taxes for people like him. Wouldn't it make sense to see how awful his tax rate actually is if he's going to make the claim that it's too high?

The answer is yes capt shill
 
2012-08-03 12:28:12 PM

Skleenar: tenpoundsofcheese: Skleenar: Since we're playing the "college transcripts = tax returns" game, what precedent is there for the release of presidential college transcripts?

why does precedent matter? this isn't a legal issue.

Besides, 0bama broke precedent when he decided to opt out of public funding of his campaign in 2008. That had huge implications beyond any whining about Mitt's taxes.

So....another unrelated thing is somehow equivalent? Are you sure you have enough potassium in your diet to ensure proper synapse firing?


oh, btw, you know that 0bama also broke precedent by not releasing his medical records, right?
The former drug user and smoker just released a 1 page letter from his doctor.
 
2012-08-03 12:29:00 PM

shower_in_my_socks: People are giving Mitt way too much credit over this "he's been running for Pres for so long - he can't be that stupid."

OF COURSE HE CAN BE THAT STUPID. He does not view the world the way we do. He is a filthy rich guy surrounded his entire life by other filthy rich people. To them, hiding money away in off-shore tax havens, exploiting loopholes, etc. -- it's all standard operating procedure. And (probably) none of it's illegal.


Mitt Romney is probably the most intelligent candidate to run for President since Jimmy Carter. He's farking smart. Unless you are using "stupid" to mean "disagreeable," you are as wrong as a person claiming that Obama was born in the Kenyan movie studio used to fake the moon landing.

The guy is also likely an extreme narcissist -- if you've never dealt with one of those - a REAL one - it's a trip. Nothing they do is ever wrong.

Jesus Christ. This is the mirror image of the Jerome Corsi claiming "Obama is a classic socialist. If you've never met one, you wouldn't see all the signs, but I do."

To him, not paying taxes for 10 years would be a WIN on such an extreme level that how could it be perceived as wrong? Him and all his buddies are high-fiving over how wonderful they are at getting richer and paying as little as possible back into the system.

It's true, I read it in "Protocols of the Elders of Bain."
 
2012-08-03 12:29:53 PM

Ford Perfect: If Mitt releases more tax returns, he will have many more charges, baseless or not, to answer to. He will have to answer charges based on every page of his tax returns, and stories about every deduction he made.
Right now all he has to answer to is a charge with no evidence and a story that sounds exaggerated. You don't hand ammo to your opposition.


And yet it is eating him alive
 
2012-08-03 12:29:54 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: skullkrusher: It is certainly something that can be done but I just don't think it is a likely candidate for avoiding paying taxes for 10 years. It's difficult to pull off and more likely a move of opportunity rather than design

Romney didn't take a salary as governor, he even paid for his own travel. After he left Bain, besides capital gains, not sure where his income would come from. I doubt he was paid for his work on the Olympics. It isn't as if he needed the money.

Any good money manager would make sure that any sales of stocks would not result in a tax bill.


More like 0lympics am I right?
 
2012-08-03 12:29:58 PM
How much is $600 in federal taxes on $23 million of income?

Oh yeah, an amount that you should go to prison for tax evasion. Especially when the deductions are as obviously illegal as the ones he listed in 2008, when he paid that much.
 
2012-08-03 12:30:12 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: djkutch: tenpoundsofcheese: This just in, if you have low income, you don't have to pay income taxes.

Income is not the same as wealth.

Someone worth $250M who doesn't draw a salary and doesn't have net stock gains and lives off of savings, won't pay any income taxes.

So, basically Romney has been sitting on his ass since he resigned from Bain living off of savings? That's a fine record of job creation this past decade.

uhhh, he was Governor (didn't take a salary) and ran the Olympics (don't know if he got a salary, but I doubt it).


...interest on $250 million dollars would be millions of dollars a year. Interest is income.

Unless, of course, you stash it overseas to avoid paying taxes on it and supporting the nation that made getting your fortune possible.
 
2012-08-03 12:31:04 PM

Captain Dan: As to the claim (offered by multiple posters) that releasing tax returns is S.O.P.:

So what? If following S.O.P. if harmful to Romney's campaign, he'd be a fool to do so. There's no legal requirement to release tax returns, and there's nothing intrinsically good about "following procedure" except for the vague conservative comfort it instills.


Well, there's the part about looking shady. that can't be good.
 
2012-08-03 12:31:12 PM

Lord Dimwit: ...interest on $250 million dollars would be millions of dollars a year. Interest is income.


it is not counted as income if it is tax free though
 
2012-08-03 12:31:31 PM

Captain Dan: Mitt Romney is probably the most intelligent candidate to run for President since Jimmy Carter. He's farking smart. Unless you are using "stupid" to mean "disagreeable," you are as wrong as a person claiming that Obama was born in the Kenyan movie studio used to fake the moon landing.


Not smart enough to get his taxes in order it would seem. Been running since 2006 and still sucks at it.
 
2012-08-03 12:32:31 PM

CPennypacker: And yet it is eating him alive


Yup.

By a 52 percent to 37 percent margin, more voters say they have an unfavorable than favorable view of Mitt Romney," according to Pew's analysis of the results. "The poll, conducted prior to Romney's recent overseas trip, represents the sixth consecutive survey over the past nine months in which his image has been in negative territory." Link
 
2012-08-03 12:34:49 PM

Ford Perfect: If Mitt releases more tax returns, he will have many more charges, baseless or not, to answer to. He will have to answer charges based on every page of his tax returns, and stories about every deduction he made.
Right now all he has to answer to is a charge with no evidence and a story that sounds exaggerated. You don't hand ammo to your opposition.


It's the same ammo Obama handed him with his returns. It's the same ammo every presidential candidate since Mitt's dad has freely given out. Romney isn't special and he shouldn't get special consideration just because he is afraid.
 
2012-08-03 12:36:35 PM
So are we all just going to pretend like anonymous didn't hack and retrieve 25 years of his tax returns? And if so, why?
 
2012-08-03 12:38:05 PM

HeartBurnKid: The fact that this makes a difference is part of the problem. Romney has been arguing that the rich should have a lower tax rate when they already pay a lower one on the vast majority of their income thanks to that very distinction (among other tricks and loopholes they lobby for).


For political reasons, Romney can't say what he probably really believes, but I'm guessing he doesn't believe that we're anywhere near the Laffer Curve inflection point. More likely, he thinks that income/corporate/capital gains taxes are inefficient ways to collect revenue, and he'd prefer to replace them with consumption taxes/carbon taxes/VAT.

I can't read his mind, but this is what most smart people believe, and Romney is one of them.
 
2012-08-03 12:38:15 PM
So GOP... how does it feel to support a tax-and-spend liberal who didn't pay his fair share as part of the 47%?
 
2012-08-03 12:38:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: oh, btw, you know that 0bama also broke precedent by not releasing his medical records, right?
The former drug user and smoker just released a 1 page letter from his doctor.



I didn't know that. And since you said so, I will never believe it, no matter what proof there might be.
 
2012-08-03 12:39:00 PM

justtray: So are we all just going to pretend like anonymous didn't hack and retrieve 25 years of his tax returns? And if so, why?


Pretty sure that was a parody article. There might even be some signs on the website that story came from.

Link
 
2012-08-03 12:40:25 PM

Dimensio: As I have stated previously: until President Obama releases his complete educational transcripts from kindergarten through college, admission applications for the same, his entire medical history, the entire medical history of his mother, the microfilm of his birth certificate and every passport that he has ever used ever, then requests for Mr. Romney's tax returns are not reasonable and hypocritical.


Until I touch the placenta with my own hands, this guy is a patsy
 
2012-08-03 12:41:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Skleenar: tenpoundsofcheese: Skleenar: Since we're playing the "college transcripts = tax returns" game, what precedent is there for the release of presidential college transcripts?

why does precedent matter? this isn't a legal issue.

Besides, 0bama broke precedent when he decided to opt out of public funding of his campaign in 2008. That had huge implications beyond any whining about Mitt's taxes.

So....another unrelated thing is somehow equivalent? Are you sure you have enough potassium in your diet to ensure proper synapse firing?

oh, btw, you know that 0bama also broke precedent by not releasing his medical records, right?
The former drug user and smoker just released a 1 page letter from his doctor.


Well then why don't you guys go ahead and make a big deal out of that and his college transcripts and we'll keep asking about romney's taxes and we'll see which of these actually matters to voters

It'll be tough for you though since it's Romney who keeps talking about the burdensome taxes the wealthy have to pay
 
2012-08-03 12:41:56 PM

Captain_Ballbeard: tenpoundsofcheese: oh, btw, you know that 0bama also broke precedent by not releasing his medical records, right?
The former drug user and smoker just released a 1 page letter from his doctor.


I didn't know that. And since you said so, I will never believe it, no matter what proof there might be.


The problem is that Obama's medical records were fairly simple, and summarized in that letter as "aside from a few minor childhood illnesses and that he smokes, he is in excellent health and has no known medical problems currently." There is nothing else to say. But because McCain released reams of documents about his own medical history - necessary because it was considerably more complicated - he's saying that if Obama didn't do the same, it's because he (Obama) is hiding something. Like the birth certificate thing, he's moving the goal posts and asking him to provide something that simply does not exist.
 
2012-08-03 12:42:50 PM

Captain Dan: Exactly. It's shameful bullshiat no matter which side is doing it. The response to partisan bullshiat should be: "that's atrocious behavior, and should be mocked," not "we need to do the same, except bullshiattier."



Except, of course, these situations are not really similar, because while Mitt has been caught hiding electorally relevant information in his tax returns before, there was no valid reason to accuse Obama of not being born in the US.
 
2012-08-03 12:43:37 PM

Ford Perfect: If Mitt releases more tax returns, he will have many more charges, baseless or not, to answer to. He will have to answer charges based on every page of his tax returns, and stories about every deduction he made.
Right now all he has to answer to is a charge with no evidence and a story that sounds exaggerated. You don't hand ammo to your opposition.


If he had released the records weeks or months ago, this would all be over. If he had released them even a couple of weeks back, and it showed that there is nothing there, this would be just a memory by now. His adamant refusal is what's fueling the speculation, and even if there ultimately proves to be nothing shady in them, they will be dissected with a much sharper scalpel than if he had not made an issue of them. It has escalated, by his own doing, from questions regarding his finances to questions regarding his judgement. He's letting his ego take charge of his decisions, and that may not be a good quality for a President to hold.
 
2012-08-03 12:44:29 PM
Romney and his wife contributed $1 million to the Olympics, and he donated to charity the $1.4 million in salary and severance payments he received for his three years as president and CEO. Link

So how much in taxes do you pay when you donate $2.4M to charity?



When you work as Gov for a dollar a year, what is your personal tax liability for that salary?


When Mitt Romney's father passed away in 1995, he left an inheritance to Mitt totaling $1 million. Romney turned around and donated that inheritance money to Brigham Young University for the George W. Romney School of Public Management. Link

How much does this lower your tax liability?

The fact is is that This man is extremely generous with HIS money. How much has Obama or Biden given to charity?
 
2012-08-03 12:44:41 PM

Halli: justtray: So are we all just going to pretend like anonymous didn't hack and retrieve 25 years of his tax returns? And if so, why?

Pretty sure that was a parody article. There might even be some signs on the website that story came from.

Link


I don't know. I wouldn't put it past Romney to convert to Judaism to improve his relations with Israel.
 
2012-08-03 12:44:42 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: oh, btw, you know that 0bama also broke precedent by not releasing his medical records, right?
The former drug user and smoker just released a 1 page letter from his doctor.


Then demand those, not the college transcripts.
 
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