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(Huffington Post)   Total campaign contributions received from registered lobbyists: Rmoney: $1,870,000, Obama: $0   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 162
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2012-08-03 10:06:49 AM  
www.ancientrails.com
 
2012-08-03 10:07:58 AM  
See, I always said democrats were better at corruption and this proof!

Proof I tells you!
 
2012-08-03 10:17:09 AM  
So what you're saying is Obama's been receiving money from unregistered lobbyists? That sneaky bastard.
 
2012-08-03 10:37:22 AM  
This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?
 
2012-08-03 11:16:32 AM  

Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?


It's a fundamental principle of our republic that the people are able to communicate their needs and concerns to elected officials.

The problem comes when the people who make a living at this make their main method of communicating their clients' needs and concerns is one step away from outright bribery, and the amount of money needed to run for office and win necessitates taking said bribes.
 
2012-08-03 11:27:21 AM  

Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?


You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.

Don't let simplistic populist rhetoric define reality. In general, it's corporate lobbying that's most troubling.
 
2012-08-03 11:52:55 AM  
Glad im voting or the guy who isnt beholden to lobbyists.

/or at least less beholden
 
2012-08-03 12:43:50 PM  
That's probably because Obama's aren't registered.

/Not that I don't support him, but it's as the lesser evil not the better person.
 
2012-08-03 12:51:55 PM  

MacEnvy: You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.


Are they registered? I'm surprised... just from your random set of examples... that Planned Parenthood hasn't donated to Obama, considering the whole contraceptive debate and all.

Not taking sides here, just surprised.
 
2012-08-03 12:58:34 PM  
I find this surprising-----I'm skeptical. Seems to me lobbyists would want to play both sides of the field, at least in part.
 
2012-08-03 01:06:39 PM  

downstairs: MacEnvy: You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.

Are they registered? I'm surprised... just from your random set of examples... that Planned Parenthood hasn't donated to Obama, considering the whole contraceptive debate and all.

Not taking sides here, just surprised.


Obama isn't accepting donations from registered lobbyists. He didn't last time either. That's why his total from them is $0. It has nothing to do with whether they want to donate or not.
 
2012-08-03 01:11:37 PM  
All lobbyists or just a specific type of lobbyist? Because if I go to DC, meet with my representatives, and mention that a waterway project on the Ohio River sure could use a Department of the Interior grant to get finished on time, that IS lobbying.

What everyone has a problem with is lobbying by companies for purposes that act against the general welfare of the country.
- Lobbying for your company to produce the guidance chip for the upgraded planes the Pentagon wants: ugly, but a part of the system.
- Lobbying for the deregulation of certain derivatives markets and the opportunity for people to privately invest their SS contributions: not okay at all.
 
2012-08-03 01:20:42 PM  
www.tucsonsentinel.com

//mudslinging
 
2012-08-03 01:53:55 PM  
This is bad news, for Obama
 
2012-08-03 01:54:40 PM  

Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?


Because sometimes people want to communicate their desires to Washington and would like someone versed in Washington politics to communicate the message as effectively as possible.
 
2012-08-03 01:55:17 PM  
Romney's a douche and we all know that Obama is going to win easily, but this is a non-story. We all know that with the CU ruling, the real donors and money is in Super PACs. Registered lobbyists are small fish now.
 
2012-08-03 01:57:31 PM  
I heard once that Obama had a lobbyist hold the door for him therefore both sides are bad and all you libs have to Vote Republican.
 
2012-08-03 01:59:20 PM  
Obama's usual ploy. Drop a napalm bomb of information right before the weekend, and let all the talking heads fester for a few days without being able to defending their chosen one so easily.

Well played.
 
2012-08-03 02:03:02 PM  

downstairs: MacEnvy: You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.

Are they registered? I'm surprised... just from your random set of examples... that Planned Parenthood hasn't donated to Obama, considering the whole contraceptive debate and all.

Not taking sides here, just surprised.


Why is it surprising?

Even if the Obama campaign were to accept lobbyist donations, the President does not create legislation; he's more like the goalie. And it's highly unlikely that Obama will block any legislation that secures or assists people in health and family planning.

Therefore PP gets a much, much bigger bang for their buck by supporting or opposing Congressional candidates.
 
MFL
2012-08-03 02:03:24 PM  
Infernalist
Romney's a douche and we all know that Obama is going to win easily, but this is a non-story

t2.gstatic.com

libs......lol
 
2012-08-03 02:04:09 PM  

Expolaris: Obama's usual ploy. Drop a napalm bomb of information right before the weekend, and let all the talking heads fester for a few days without being able to defending their chosen one so easily.

Well played.


He's controlled the narrative since the very beginning. the GOP just doesn't know how to respond to their own tactics being used against them.
 
2012-08-03 02:05:33 PM  

MFL: Infernalist
Romney's a douche and we all know that Obama is going to win easily, but this is a non-story

[t2.gstatic.com image 219x230]

libs......lol


Yeah, I'm one of those common pro-death penalty, anti-gun control Liberals.
 
2012-08-03 02:06:26 PM  

Expolaris: Obama's usual ploy. Drop a napalm bomb of information right before the weekend, and let all the talking heads fester for a few days without being able to defending their chosen one so easily.

Well played.


Think he will go sherman on them, maybe even nuclear?
 
2012-08-03 02:06:44 PM  
Let's look at the whole campaign, shall we?

Lobbying firm donations favor Obama $14,059,717 to Romney's $6,702,739.

That's outrageous. See my outrage?
 
2012-08-03 02:07:02 PM  
RON PAUL!
 
2012-08-03 02:09:15 PM  

Antimatter: Expolaris: Obama's usual ploy. Drop a napalm bomb of information right before the weekend, and let all the talking heads fester for a few days without being able to defending their chosen one so easily.

Well played.

He's controlled the narrative since the very beginning. the GOP just doesn't know how to respond to their own tactics being used against them.


Why should they? The Democrats have played the whole "Take the moral high ground and ignore those drooling idiots" defense since the mid-90s. All that accomplished was to encourage the GOP to pump up the dirty tactics to an eleven.

Now, for the first time since Clinton, they're having their own tricks and methods used against them and they don't know what to do. It's very satisfying to see.
 
2012-08-03 02:09:57 PM  
Obama will win, but by a depressingly narrow margin.

That said, I'm pleased to hear that Republicans are dropping LOADS of cash on Romney based on the sadly justifiable belief that elections can be bought. Worse, their gnashing about high taxes on "job creators" will only amplify after November: "Taxing us isn't fair, we went broke trying to rig the election!"
 
2012-08-03 02:12:40 PM  

HakunaMatata: Glad im voting or the guy who isnt beholden to lobbyists.

/or at least less beholden


www.ravenmimura.com

I KNEW ZER0BAMA WAS EVIL!!!!
 
2012-08-03 02:13:07 PM  

Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?


Believe it or not, some of them do serve a purpose. They have expertise in a particular area of industry and/or regulation, and can help to craft legislation that doesn't have some stupid/ridiculous provisions. Otherwise, you get those stories of "I build houses, and the government passed this dumb law that says I have to do something silly, because they don't understand construction" etc.

Oh, wait, this is fark. "They're all parasites and thieves and should be hung by their dangly bits"
 
2012-08-03 02:15:44 PM  

MisterRonbo: Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?

Believe it or not, some of them do serve a purpose. They have expertise in a particular area of industry and/or regulation, and can help to craft legislation that doesn't have some stupid/ridiculous provisions. Otherwise, you get those stories of "I build houses, and the government passed this dumb law that says I have to do something silly, because they don't understand construction" etc.

Oh, wait, this is fark. "They're all parasites and thieves and should be hung by their dangly bits"


The concept is sound:

The citizenry are entitled to the right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

In other words, they have the 'right' to complain and the right to have the government sit there and listen to their complaints.

The problem comes from the fact that the government decided that allowing money to enter the equation was a good idea.
 
2012-08-03 02:21:00 PM  
Because they are working in the White House
 
2012-08-03 02:22:53 PM  

MacEnvy: downstairs: MacEnvy: You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.

Are they registered? I'm surprised... just from your random set of examples... that Planned Parenthood hasn't donated to Obama, considering the whole contraceptive debate and all.

Not taking sides here, just surprised.

Obama isn't accepting donations from registered lobbyists. He didn't last time either.


And we have John Edwards to thank for setting that standard.

Heckuva guy that Edwards. What ever happened to him?
 
2012-08-03 02:25:36 PM  
I believe whose who voted for Obama the first time around saw him as a novelty and nothing more. Especially those in the African community. After reality set in, most are very disappointed with him. His struggle for campaign donations is a reflection of his approval by those that supported him. And those that champion him are distancing themselves.
 
2012-08-03 02:26:39 PM  
At least it's now obvious one man cannot make a difference. The next annual presidental address should be announced as "ExxonMobil presents The 2013 State of the Union". Why hide it anymore?
 
2012-08-03 02:27:47 PM  
Romney is amoral and corrupt. Film at 11.
 
2012-08-03 02:28:03 PM  

Wendy's Chili: MacEnvy: downstairs: MacEnvy: You realize that not all lobbyists are tobacco and oil people, right? Planned Parenthood, the League of Conservation Voters, poverty assistance advocates ... all lobbyists.

Are they registered? I'm surprised... just from your random set of examples... that Planned Parenthood hasn't donated to Obama, considering the whole contraceptive debate and all.

Not taking sides here, just surprised.

Obama isn't accepting donations from registered lobbyists. He didn't last time either.

And we have John Edwards to thank for setting that standard.

Heckuva guy that Edwards. What ever happened to him?


Are you trying to say that Edwards' fall was because he didn't accept money from lobbyists? If that's not what you're trying to say, then what relevance did your post have to the conversation at hand?
 
MFL
2012-08-03 02:28:12 PM  
Antimatter
He's controlled the narrative since the very beginning. the GOP just doesn't know how to respond to their own tactics being used against them.


lol whut?

The democrats always "controll the narrative" with the mainstream media. Where have you been?

The fact that Obama has dropped millions in attack adds and his pals at NBC have carried his water while Romney's numbers are going up. I mean shiat NBC had to oversample Dems by 11% in their last poll to keep the whole "Obama's got this in the bag" narrative alive.
 
2012-08-03 02:28:29 PM  
Libtards "conveniently" "forgetting" all the money Obama has received from ACORN? Must be a day that ends in y.
 
2012-08-03 02:28:32 PM  
*I meant African American
 
2012-08-03 02:29:13 PM  

MacEnvy: Obama isn't accepting donations from registered lobbyists. He didn't last time either. That's why his total from them is $0. It has nothing to do with whether they want to donate or not.



So Obama only accepts donations from lobbyists that are circumventing the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.

Transparency!!
 
2012-08-03 02:30:20 PM  
Wonder what the score is in the "shady billionaire Jewish casino magnate who previously supported another canidate" donation game.

/Obama has one of those right?
 
2012-08-03 02:30:35 PM  

MFL: Antimatter
He's controlled the narrative since the very beginning. the GOP just doesn't know how to respond to their own tactics being used against them.

lol whut?

The democrats always "controll the narrative" with the mainstream media. Where have you been?

The fact that Obama has dropped millions in attack adds and his pals at NBC have carried his water while Romney's numbers are going up. I mean shiat NBC had to oversample Dems by 11% in their last poll to keep the whole "Obama's got this in the bag" narrative alive.


Back to make more brainless claims then disappear into the night when they are refuted I see
 
2012-08-03 02:31:40 PM  

phreezen: I believe whose who voted for Obama the first time around saw him as a novelty and nothing more. Especially those in the African community. After reality set in, most are very disappointed with him. His struggle for campaign donations is a reflection of his approval by those that supported him. And those that champion him are distancing themselves.


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-08-03 02:33:54 PM  

Mugato: This has nothing to do with partisanship or even politics in general but how do lobbyists even justify their existence? I have to deal with movie studio execs and I think they're evil and useless but farking lobbyists, WTF? Why? Why are you here?


Are you familiar with the term "Bagman"?
 
2012-08-03 02:34:16 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Romney is amoral and corrupt. Film at 11.


Are all Mormons going to blindly vote for him? I'm wondering if any of them looked at his vulture capitalism, flip-flopping, and constant stream of lies, and said "um, I don't think I can vote for such an immoral person."

/assuming "yes"
 
2012-08-03 02:35:05 PM  
This election I'm a bit surprised to see the R's pushing so hard to the right. Usually that only occurs in the mid-terms. I'm not entirely sure that's the wisest move for them to make as we are a mostly centralist so it may come back to bite them in the butt.
 
2012-08-03 02:35:18 PM  
Info from HuffyPo, so no ultra-left slant here to see. Move along, lemmings.
 
2012-08-03 02:35:22 PM  

RolandGunner: So Obama only accepts donations from lobbyists that are circumventing the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.

Transparency!!


img1.fark.net
 
2012-08-03 02:37:42 PM  

Infernalist: The problem comes from the fact that the government decided that allowing money to enter the equation was a good idea.


You think that was somebody in Govt who came up with idea?
 
2012-08-03 02:38:50 PM  

MFL: The democrats always "controll the narrative" with the mainstream media. Where have you been?


That's why the Swiftboaters got no attention whatsoever.

And we never saw Dukakis in a tank turret.

And knew nothing about Clinton's possible extramarital affairs until he was out of office.
 
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