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(Fox Sports)   "We did it in a very highly classy way," says Carmelo Anthony after U.S. routs Nigeria 156-73, shattering Olympic records in pool play   (msn.foxsports.com) divider line 125
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2012-08-02 11:05:53 PM
Guess the token white guy got some playing time.
 
2012-08-02 11:10:44 PM
Yea....Nice defence there....
 
2012-08-03 12:04:29 AM
Nigeria, please.
 
2012-08-03 12:05:30 AM
They let Nigeria off the hook on D.
 
2012-08-03 12:06:57 AM
DEAR KIND SIR,

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Regards
 
2012-08-03 12:17:40 AM
Nigeria has 17x the population and 4x the GDP of Tunisia, yet Tunisia managed to play a respectable game.
 
2012-08-03 12:20:13 AM
To be fair, he's not wrong.

Team USA did everything but just hand them the ball after every rebound. You coukd argue that tanking completely woukd have been more disrespectful. They couldnt not score, Nigeria was just that bad.
 
2012-08-03 12:21:24 AM
Amateurs
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2012-08-03 12:22:38 AM
An aside, I saw a BK commercial tonight where they're offering USA Basketball commemorative cups.

For some reason, there's no 2004 cup.
 
2012-08-03 12:23:14 AM
FTA:

Nigeria was the first to get the message.

[...]

Nigeria was the first to get the message.


WE GOT IT TOO, THANKS MISTER EDITOR
 
2012-08-03 12:23:55 AM
I turned off the game when it was 78-45 at halftime. Looks like they eased off a bit in the last two quarters. They probably could have scored 200 if they kept hitting threes like they were in the first half.
 
2012-08-03 12:30:01 AM
I'd say they out-classied them
 
2012-08-03 12:30:49 AM

The Homer Tax: To be fair, he's not wrong.

Team USA did everything but just hand them the ball after every rebound. You coukd argue that tanking completely woukd have been more disrespectful. They couldnt not score, Nigeria was just that bad.


Hey now. Better watch out. In the last thread when I implied that the US team wasn't going full out in the victory I heard a lot of complaints.
 
rka
2012-08-03 12:35:37 AM
They pulled women's softball from the Olympics because the US women dominated so much. I wonder if they'll ever do the same for basketball.

The US Men have 13 golds in the Olympics. There are only 3 other teams to ever win gold and 2 of them aren't even in existence anymore (Soviet Union, Yugoslavia).

If possible, it's even more lopsided on the women's side with the US women with 6 gold and no other current country has any. (again, Soviet Union and Yugoslavia have the other 3).
 
2012-08-03 12:57:38 AM
What to expect in this thread: People who didn't watch the game attempt to comment on it.
 
2012-08-03 01:02:58 AM

Mike_LowELL: What to expect in this thread: People who didn't watch the game attempt to comment on it.


Doesn't Nigeria have any black people in it who might help them?
 
2012-08-03 01:18:30 AM

Mike_LowELL: What to expect in this thread: People who didn't watch the game attempt to comment on it.


Not exactly riveting to watch now is it? I see no reason to watch a bunch of NBA players beat up on grossly overmatched teams. It's embarassing. At least with hockey in the winter games there are several teams that can go all the way.
 
2012-08-03 01:19:33 AM
Yeah Carmelo, you did it with class. That's why you broke the olympic record for a scorer...

The Dream Team (the only one) did it with actual class and respect, every player got board time and scored no more than 20 points because they knew they were the farking Dream Team, so no need to run the score unnecessarily. They managed to score 100+ in every game because it was Jordan scoring 12, Barkley 15, Magic 8, Malone 14 and so so.

Here you have farking ballhogs trying to set scoring records and shiat. That's not classy, you need to be benevolent and magnanimous in victory. Not some cutthroat mercenary.

That said, Nigeria you farking suck!! I'm so mad at you for defeating my Dominicans during the Olympic repechage only to be the embarrassment of the tournament. Yeah, I know that would mean the Dominicans were factually worse, but nope, they just got nervous since it was the first time the country had even made it that far (thanks to pro players like Al Horford, Francisco Garcia, Jack Michael Martinez, etc and the leadership of John Calipari as their coach).
 
2012-08-03 01:25:43 AM
I've never really seen anything wrong with "running up the score" at the highest level. You are playing at the top level, and if a vastly inferior team getting destroyed is a concern then establish a realistic mercy rule. It is only a sport and I think adults playing it can understand they're overmatched and take it without any feelings getting seriously hurt.
 
2012-08-03 01:26:56 AM
rka
They pulled women's softball from the Olympics because the US women dominated so much.


Yeah, that's why they pulled it after the US didn't win gold for the first time.

I wonder if they'll ever do the same for basketball.

Nah, people actually know about and play basketball.
 
2012-08-03 01:33:56 AM

rocky_howard:

The Dream Team (the only one) did it with actual class and respect



[barkleyangola.jpg]
 
2012-08-03 01:37:46 AM

Happy Hours: Doesn't Nigeria have any black people in it who might help them?


This sounds kinda racist, but at the same time, it seems like a valid question.

Similarly, I wonder why island nations can't produce decent swimmers. WTF, England?
 
2012-08-03 01:38:24 AM

bighairyguy: Amateurs


What's pathetic about that is Heisman insisted on playing the game even though Cumberland disbanded their team the year before and that game was played against students thrown together at the last minute. Heisman was a scumbag.
 
2012-08-03 01:41:39 AM

Happy Hours: Doesn't Nigeria have any black people in it who might help them?


Nine of the twelve players on the Nigerian team were American. That should pretty much sum up the state of basketball in Nigeria.

Representative of the unwashed masses: Not exactly riveting to watch now is it? I see no reason to watch a bunch of NBA players beat up on grossly overmatched teams.


I want to watch the best athletes perform, and the Americans are the best players in the sport. Whether the rest of the world can keep up is not my concern.

Representative of the unwashed masses: At least with hockey in the winter games there are several teams that can go all the way.


That's because the rule set for hockey leads to incredible volatility, the ridiculous idea that an eight-seed can dominate an NHL playoff and nobody gives it a second thought. Manufactured parity (whether via the design of the sport or its league and playoff format) is only interesting to those who are more concerned with seeing their team win than watching the best competition.
 
2012-08-03 01:46:54 AM

rocky_howard: Yeah Carmelo, you did it with class. That's why you broke the olympic record for a scorer...


I'm a big original>2012 guy (in that who stops Jordan/they are too big), but Melo broke the record in 14 minutes. That's not exactly him running up the score just to get the record. He just caught such fire that Knicks fans are going to be depressed for months thinking about it. Really, the only way to not score was to simply get the ball past half court, let the shot clock run out and hand them the ball.
 
2012-08-03 01:54:14 AM

SpikeStrip: barkleyangola.jpg


lolyeah, Barkley's an ass, but hey, it's Barkley. That's who he is.

But the team as a hole, exuded class and respect.
 
2012-08-03 02:04:10 AM

rocky_howard: SpikeStrip: barkleyangola.jpg

lolyeah, Barkley's an ass, but hey, it's Barkley. That's who he is.

But the team as a hole, exuded class and respect.


here comes the qualifiers...
 
2012-08-03 02:10:40 AM

bukketmaster: Happy Hours: Doesn't Nigeria have any black people in it who might help them?

This sounds kinda racist, but at the same time, it seems like a valid question.

Similarly, I wonder why island nations can't produce decent swimmers. WTF, England?


Sharks.

really i don't know.

But why do people get bent all out of shape when a vastly better team takes another team to the shed? What are they supposed to do? Just stop playing, stop taking shots and just pass the ball around? Don't you think it would be more of an insult to the other team if the way better team just stop running offense and just started passing the ball around instead of taking shots?
 
2012-08-03 02:14:27 AM

Mike_LowELL:
That's because the rule set for hockey leads to incredible volatility, the ridiculous idea that an eight-seed can dominate an NHL playoff and nobody gives it a second thought. Manufactured parity (whether via the design of the sport or its league and playoff format) is only interesting to those who are more concerned with seeing their team win than watching the best competition.


No, it's because there are several countries, USA, Canada, Sweeden, the Czech republic, Finland, Russia, and a few others that have a significant amount of elite hockey players, because it's a sport that is popular in many more countries than basketball at an organized level. With USA basketball is there any team in the tournament that's expected to stay within 20 points? Other than the silver and bronze medal teams there just isn't any reason to watch those games. May as well catch the highlights to see if there were any cool shots and save a couple hours.
 
2012-08-03 02:17:30 AM
Actually a better analogy would be football, the reason it's not in the olympics is that it really is only popular in two countries, Canada and the USA. Especially with pro players, every time the US would get gold, Canada silver and someone else the bronze. No real reason to play it in the olympics, if it would only be a glorified exhibition.
 
2012-08-03 02:23:46 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: . With USA basketball is there any team in the tournament that's expected to stay within 20 points?


There's a few actually.
 
2012-08-03 02:29:11 AM
They shot more threes than twos...I'm not really calling it classless but it did not happen "with class"...that's for sure.

I don't mind run up scores though, but don't say it's the classy thing to do.
 
2012-08-03 02:46:48 AM

ongbok:
But why do people get bent all out of shape when a vastly better team takes another team to the shed? What are they supposed to do? Just stop playing, stop taking shots and just pass the ball around? Don't you think it would be more of an insult to the other team if the way better team just stop running offense and just started passing the ball around instead of taking shots?


Those people were raised under the current American paradigm, which is all about congratulating everyone for just showing up at all and having people who are blatantly superior shut it down to spare other people's feelings.

Basically, some people think grown-ass men who are paid professionals should act like they're playing little league with a bunch of fifth-graders because mommy told them that's how sportsmanship works when really, she was just trying not to draw attention to the fact that you suck.
 
2012-08-03 02:48:36 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: No, it's because there are several countries, USA, Canada, Sweeden, the Czech republic, Finland, Russia, and a few others that have a significant amount of elite hockey players, because it's a sport that is popular in many more countries than basketball at an organized level


Hockey is played at a high level in numerous countries, yes, but by the nature of the sport, the favored (or stronger team) is far, far more likely to win in basketball than in hockey. This is something which can be reasonably determined by the volatility of the NHL Playoffs, where higher-seeded teams lose to lower-seeded teams with far more regularity than NBA teams in their similar best-of-seven format. So even if there was a single dominant hockey team at the Winter Olympics, they would be far more likely to lose than the United States in basketball, because the sample sizes for scoring are far more volatile in determining the outcome. Hockey teams usually score zero to five goals per game, a score generated by a small percentage of attempted shots. Looking at statistics for top-tier goalies, they have a save percentage close to or over ninety percent. Basketball teams usually score thirty to fifty baskets per game, a score generated on a rate of success which is usually 40 to 50 percent. As a result, that stability in the sample size for field goals leads to less volatility in basketball than it does in hockey. Do you disagree with this?

Representative of the unwashed masses: With USA basketball is there any team in the tournament that's expected to stay within 20 points?


Spain, Argentina, and Brazil always play the United States very tight, and Spain in particular presents a glaring mismatch for the United States, since the United States only has one center (Chandler) who is capable of guarding either Gasol brother, let alone the additional problems presented by Ibaka. Let's make this clear though: If the United States was not in the tournament, there would be absolutely no clear favorite to win the whole thing. Any of the teams behind the United States (Spain, Argentina, Brazil, France, Russia) could win and it would not be surprising.
 
2012-08-03 02:56:21 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Actually a better analogy would be football, the reason it's not in the olympics is that it really is only popular in two countries, Canada and the USA. Especially with pro players, every time the US would get gold, Canada silver and someone else the bronze. No real reason to play it in the olympics, if it would only be a glorified exhibition.


or i would be better to look at the different countries as different teams in the US. no one expects an 8th seed to beat a 1 seed, but i happens rarely. in this case, Russia won a game they were not expected to beat. hooray, there is your upset! just like in 2011, when the Mavs beat the two teams every one thought would win it all.

the first couple rounds are beaten for a reason. it get's harder in the Olypics because it's one and done (check out the Packers ranking when they one the Superbowl, or the Giants last year, for your NFL analogy).

Spain is a scary team. should be fun to watch! even Russia is proving interesting.

not picking an argument or anything but, one only has to go back to '04 when Argentina put the US in it's place...
 
2012-08-03 02:57:03 AM
and i suck at spelling Olympics...=)
 
2012-08-03 03:00:45 AM
or read Mr. LowELL ...
 
2012-08-03 03:07:44 AM

srhp29: They shot more threes than twos....


Those than can, do. Those that can't...well, don't.
 
2012-08-03 03:09:30 AM

R.P.M.: not picking an argument or anything but, one only has to go back to '04 when Argentina put the US in it's place...


shaq and garnett were on their barcaloungers
 
2012-08-03 03:27:26 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: No, it's because there are several countries, USA, Canada, Sweeden, the Czech republic, Finland, Russia, and a few others that have a significant amount of elite hockey players, because it's a sport that is popular in many more countries than basketball at an organized level.


Wow, you sir are a total moron. Basketball is one of the most popular sports in the world, only behind soccer and probably cricket. Maybe know what you're talking about before opening your mouth. Nigeria is like a France for hockey, meaning they are out of their league and have no chance. What's funny is that basketball continues to grow around the world while hockey will forever be only in cold countries. They're in the Winter Olympics (aka the less important Olympics) for a reason.

/as soon as hockey fans stop trolling basketball, I will stop mocking hockey trolls
 
2012-08-03 03:42:54 AM

The Homer Tax: To be fair, he's not wrong.

Team USA did everything but just hand them the ball after every rebound. You coukd argue that tanking completely woukd have been more disrespectful. They couldnt not score, Nigeria was just that bad.


considering the badmitton players who got banned for not giving their all, I think it would have been more prudent to run up the score.
 
2012-08-03 03:43:46 AM

bighairyguy: Amateurs
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What the heck sport plays 5 fifths? and why does cumberland suck so badly at it?
 
2012-08-03 03:57:23 AM

JorgiX: I've never really seen anything wrong with "running up the score" at the highest level. You are playing at the top level, and if a vastly inferior team getting destroyed is a concern then establish a realistic mercy rule. It is only a sport and I think adults playing it can understand they're overmatched and take it without any feelings getting seriously hurt.


In the Olympics, it's often a whole lot more than 'just sports'. It is quadrennial global combat by champion. National pride on the line and all on the shoulders of the athletes. Your more repressive nations have a nasty tendency to destroy or threaten to destroy the athlete's life if they don't meet some sort of standard. At the same time, every Games you'll hear about what some of the other countries are offering as prizes on offer to anyone who brings home a gold. On occasion you'll hear about one of them offering a whole entire house.
 
2012-08-03 04:26:01 AM
Carmelo Anthony is about as classy as an abortion.
 
2012-08-03 04:29:13 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Actually a better analogy would be football, the reason it's not in the olympics is that it really is only popular in two countries, Canada and the USA. Especially with pro players, every time the US would get gold, Canada silver and someone else the bronze. No real reason to play it in the olympics, if it would only be a glorified exhibition.


LOL, you just compared one of the most successful American sports internationally (basketball) with the least popular of the Big 4 internationally (football). Hoops has been in the Olympics since the 30s and is a popular sport in the US, China, Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Canada, Greece, Turkey, Spain, France, and emerging across the globe since it is almost as accessible as soccer. The fact you compared international American football with basketball shows how ignorant you are when it comes to sports. I'd give you more respect if you compared basketball with hockey or baseball, but you'd still be wrong.
 
2012-08-03 04:36:38 AM
They did play with class.

The only reason they were jacking up threes was because Nigeria was playing a zone, packing the paint, and most importantly NOT MAKING ANY EFFORT AT ALL TO GET HANDS IN THE FACES OF THE US THREE POINT SHOOTERS. Of course, when you don't get hands in the faces of NBA players, they will tend to hit threes more often than not, as they did against Nigeria.

Nigeria was packing the paint and daring the US to take threes by not making any effort at all to close out on the three point shooters.

What was the US supposed to do, not take the wide open threes which Nigeria were willingly conceding?
 
2012-08-03 06:41:39 AM

rocky_howard: Yeah Carmelo, you did it with class. That's why you broke the olympic record for a scorer...

The Dream Team (the only one) did it with actual class and respect, every player got board time and scored no more than 20 points because they knew they were the farking Dream Team, so no need to run the score unnecessarily. They managed to score 100+ in every game because it was Jordan scoring 12, Barkley 15, Magic 8, Malone 14 and so so.

Here you have farking ballhogs trying to set scoring records and shiat. That's not classy, you need to be benevolent and magnanimous in victory. Not some cutthroat mercenary.



I have no love for Carmelo either, however, he played a grand total of 14 minutes! He made 13-16 shots! None of them in the 4th quarter and only 2 of his field goals weren't assisted. That's not being a ball hog, that'shiatting open shots when you are feeling it. None of them were trying to break records but when you shoot 70% from the field and 63% on 49 3pt attempts it is going to happen.
 
2012-08-03 07:17:50 AM
When you're leading by 57 going into the fourth quarter, and you take 13 three pointers in that final quarter... yeah, sorry, that's just straight-up douchy.
 
2012-08-03 07:22:54 AM

ghall3: That's not being a ball hog, that'shiatting open shots when you are feeling it.


Niiiice.
 
2012-08-03 07:41:31 AM

I sound fat: bighairyguy: Amateurs
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What the heck sport plays 5 fifths? and why does cumberland suck so badly at it?


College football. It's four quarters and a total score.....
 
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