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2012-08-03 08:04:44 AM

Gothnet: 2. Sorry to all you folks who think that it's "Just a Job" and the girl shouldn't feel bad because she doesn't set corporate policy, but you're utterly, utterly wrong.

She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions.


That is a pretty unreasonable reaction in the modern world. Most corporations have tie-ins and relationships to other financial/corporate entities that are unrelated to their core business. The normal worker would have no reason to know all those relationships, or even necessarily have access to people who would. However, if you were instead to say the same thing about stock holders, I would at least agree that it was not an entirely unrealistic argument.
 
2012-08-03 08:06:43 AM

godxam: I'm pretty sure than no office supply wholesaler gives a shiat what gothnet thinks.


Nobody gives a shiat what I think, that's why I'm saying it on fark. Were you under the impression that spouting crap here was achieving something?
 
2012-08-03 08:07:21 AM
Way to make yourself unemployable a whopping 5 years after graduation, asshat.

In other news, you cannot have difference of opinions with the left.

/celebrate diversity
//except when it disagrees with our opinion
///in which case, shout it down, accost it, molest it and assault it until it dare not rear its head
 
2012-08-03 08:07:31 AM

Gothnet: 1. This guy is a dickbag. It's true.

2. Sorry to all you folks who think that it's "Just a Job" and the girl shouldn't feel bad because she doesn't set corporate policy, but you're utterly, utterly wrong.

She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions.


Because clearly there is a surge of new job openings that enables the average teenager to hand select a company whose CEP espouses nothing but the truest and tolerant of creeds.

Imagination Land sounds fun.
 
2012-08-03 08:10:15 AM

Studson: Because clearly there is a surge of new job openings that enables the average teenager to hand select a company whose CEP espouses nothing but the truest and tolerant of creeds.

Imagination Land sounds fun.


Just saying, if you work there you're helping make the world that little bit worse, you don't get a free pass just because you're not in charge.
 
2012-08-03 08:10:56 AM

Sid_6.7: Ranting at the drive-thru guy? That's like trying to stick it to The Man by assaulting one of The Man's discarded toenail clippings.


Did he say not a gay in me...giggity
 
2012-08-03 08:11:04 AM

pippi longstocking: farkityfarker: I think it's fairly safe to say that Chick-Fil-A has the worst CEO in corporate history.

You'd probably have spasm if you read up on Henry Ford. Biggest farking bigot in the world.


And those Carnegies and Hearsts were peaches too.
 
2012-08-03 08:11:28 AM
saying there's "not a gay in me" and "I just can't stand the hate." He also says he's "I'm a nice guy, by the way."

The douche doth protest too much, methinks.

/Probably had a gay in him last night.
 
2012-08-03 08:11:37 AM
I'm sure all Fark Libs will be applauding his termination, since we know all corporate executives are evil criminals.

Oh wait, it doesn't count when it's one of their guys.

/Chick-Fil-A-Gate has been a joy to watch Progressives dig their own hole deeper and deeper
 
2012-08-03 08:13:21 AM

gimmegimme: FTA: "Vogel said the company has no stance on the gay marriage issue but has always hade a "good relationship" with Chick-fil-A. He said the company will consider contacting the employee Smith ambushed in an attempt to mend fences."

Jesus Christ. Welcome to America, in which there is no difference between you at work and you at home. While I do NOT like what this guy did at all, I take great exception to the idea that we are representatives of Dear Company at all times. It's not like the guy said, "Hello, I'm Jerk McJerkface, here on behalf of Vante, a provider of medical manufacturing solutions..."


There is a big difference between a minimum wage blue collar worker at a company, and being a CEO. When you are a CEO, whether you like it or not, the public will associate you with your company at all time.
 
2012-08-03 08:14:01 AM

Pocket Ninja: I will also say that she handled herself very well in that exchange, and I'm wondering how much time was spent by various stores preparing their employees for how to deal with situations like this.


I used to work these kinds of jobs, and the answer is : Very little. Chances are she has been dealing with people for the last week or two coming in and reacting. It's very likely that the store owner (the franchisee) and his senior management have worked very hard to cultivate a few employees who can manage this kind of onslaught. It's very hard to know what to do, and the biggest threat to CFA is not from customers, but from alternate franchises (Roy Rodgers, Arby's, Popeye's) coming around going "Why work for them when you can work for me, a bigger regional/national brand"

If you lose 25% of your stores to your competition because you were a retarded douchemonkey ... well ... you deserve it.
 
2012-08-03 08:14:03 AM

beta_plus: I'm sure all Fark Libs will be applauding his termination, since we know all corporate executives are evil criminals.

Oh wait, it doesn't count when it's one of their guys.

/Chick-Fil-A-Gate has been a joy to watch Progressives dig their own hole deeper and deeper


You teabaggers, always fixated on Progressives and their holes.
 
2012-08-03 08:14:14 AM

ArkAngel: Lionel Mandrake: I cannot f*cking STAND people who biatch at cashiers, tellers, waiters, etc because of a policy decided by someone else., a thousand miles away, and a million miles up the pay scale.

I would have fired his ass, too.

This. Add to it that 85-90% of all Chick-fil-A restaurants are franchises (compared to McDonald's 65-70%). All franchisees can do is distance themselves as best they can from the CEO and send angry missives up the pipeline.

I hope this man enjoys the consequences of his free speech.


Except that the CEO interviews every potential Chik-Fil-A franchise owner personally and they have to fit a "moral criteria" in line with his own views.

McDonalds doesn't care about the religious views of its franchise holders.

Not sayIng it's fair to complain to the employees or even the manager still. Just that most of Chik-Fil-A's locations are owned by people with similar views to the CEO.
 
2012-08-03 08:14:59 AM

Gothnet: Just saying, if you work there you're helping make the world that little bit worse, you don't get a free pass just because you're not in charge.


I feel like I have been impliedly Godwin'd.
 
2012-08-03 08:18:16 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: He (was) a CEO. Being an asshole to his lessers is a reward in itself.

More like a CENO now, AMIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE?

*high-fives the wall*


awesome
 
2012-08-03 08:19:09 AM

gimmegimme: doglover: gimmegimme: Jesus Christ. Welcome to America, in which there is no difference between you at work and you at home. While I do NOT like what this guy did at all, I take great exception to the idea that we are representatives of Dear Company at all times

Actually, you're a representative of yourself at all times.

Anyone who would be this big of a jerk and put it on video online rather than burying it shamefacedly and apologizing the next day deserves to lose not only their job, but any respect they've garnered.

This wasn't a bit, this wasn't Borat, this was honest to goodness hate.

Not only should this guy lose his job, he should be unable to get a new one with any respectable company for a few years because he's clearly a dickface. It doesn't matter if he can do the job, nobody should want to work with him.

As I said, I agree that this guy is an asshole. But where do we draw the line? Should this guy be able to have a job?

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What about this woman?

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What about this gasbag drug addict?

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Where should the line be? Who should be disallowed from having a job based upon what they say on their own time? (Yes, I admit Limbaugh was talking shiat at work, but that makes it worse.)


It's the employer's job, so it's the employer's call. That is pretty simple to understand.
 
2012-08-03 08:19:52 AM
Ya know, the CFA near my house was always busy as it is, now it's stupid busy and takes more than 5 minutes to get a spicy chicken sammich. This whole hubbub is annoying. I don't support nor boycott places because of anything: Either I like their services or I don't. CFA's Spicy chicken sammich is not as spicy as Wendy's, but it has a superior taste, and the staff is unbelievably kind and considerate. Now, the Wendy's in my area aren't no slouch either (except for the one by the highway), but no one can touch CFA's customer service.

So, everyone, get over your petty squabbling so I can go back to enjoying CFA when I want it and not have to wait in lines around the farking city.
 
2012-08-03 08:21:09 AM

heavymetal: I just wonder if the people defending "Chick-Fil-A" will notice the irony and finally realize that freedom of speech is not a shield of protection from the court of public opinion when you are an asshat or biggot. Maybe a new age of dialog, understanding, and compromise will happen.

Naw, this will probably be spread by Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, and the rest of the right's talking heads as typical liberals trying to oppress conservatives. There will also be no mention of the consequences the guy faced or their hypocrisy in attacking him while defending the CEO of Chick-Fil-A.



The guy from CFA expressed an opinion. He never stated he hates gays, just that he doesn't agree with gay marriage. This butt plug verbally assaulted a teen who had nothing whatsoever to do with any of it. If you can't see the difference, well, there's your problem.
 
2012-08-03 08:24:07 AM
This guy was such a flaming DoucheLord that the tinfoil hat-y side of me begins to wonder if this was some sort of Roveian scheme cooked up by Chick-Fil-A's own PR department to discredit it's critics. I'm still trying to understand what made this goon do what he did without thinking of the consequences.

Oh well, at least he didn't do "FIRE IN THE HOLE" at her.
 
2012-08-03 08:24:15 AM
What the hell is wrong with people? You know who else doesn't believe in gay marriage? The f'ing President of the United States. Yes, he's currently pandering for votes. But he's already said what he believes. Why don't the gays make out in front of the White House?
 
2012-08-03 08:24:46 AM
so when do the gays start burning these shops down?
 
2012-08-03 08:25:07 AM
Dr. Martin Luther King also suffered persecution from the establishment when he confronted the unjust social order of his day. Sometimes he even went to JAIL for civil disobedience. People called him names and thought he was a rabble rouser. Today we look at him as a hero.

Of course, he wasn't just a big douche like this guy, so the comparison maybe isn't 100%.
 
2012-08-03 08:25:11 AM
I like the people calling chick-fil-a and saying they're from church groups, ordering a few hundy worth of crap and never picking it up.
 
2012-08-03 08:26:19 AM

Gothnet: She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions


You hairy nutsack. Do you realize how few jobs are out there? Do you have a farking clue? Now you're going to whittle down your choices by company views on political subjects? I'll work for the Charlie Manson knife factory if it feeds my family. I'll cut the holes in the sheets at the David Dukes Klan Fashions store.
 
2012-08-03 08:26:33 AM
I think this guy is a douche nozzle and deserves public shaming. With that being said, I'm not sure I agree with being fired for something non-work related. I have a good job in a very conservative area. My spare time is spent playing in a fairly extreme heavy metal band. I would hate to be fired from my job for someone taking offense at what I do after work. If it's not interfering with work, it's none of the company's business. The only counter argument I could see would be if a bunch of his company's clients saw the video and took their business elsewhere, but I find it hard to believe this would even be a news story if they didn't fire him
 
2012-08-03 08:27:01 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: "I don't know how you live with yourself and work here," Smith says to the employee, before calling himself "totally heterosexual" and saying there's "not a gay in me" and "I just can't stand the hate." He also says he's "I'm a nice guy, by the way."

Way to pick your battles, George Costanza.


Was that wrong? Should he not have done that?
 
2012-08-03 08:29:31 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: I actually go to McDonalds and yell at the people in the drive through about how McDonalds advertises to children. (McDonalds advertising harms them by making them obese.) But unlike this guy, I usually order three McAngus burgers and a milkshake.


And here i thought you had to actually eat the food to become obese.

againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-03 08:32:11 AM
Say, whatever happened to that John Fitzgerald Page clown anyways?


//https://www.amazon.com/author/douglaspennington
 
2012-08-03 08:32:19 AM

TheOriginalEd: [s10.postimage.org image 180x180]


Sadly, you might be right. If dickbag behavior like what the guy in TFA did continues, there's going to be a backlash to the backlash.

/also thinks the planned Chik-fil-A "kiss-in" planned for today is counterproductive and stupid
 
2012-08-03 08:35:28 AM

gunga galunga: TheOriginalEd: [s10.postimage.org image 180x180]

Sadly, you might be right. If dickbag behavior like what the guy in TFA did continues, there's going to be a backlash to the backlash.

/also thinks the planned Chik-fil-A "kiss-in" planned for today is counterproductive and stupid


it may be counterproductive, but that isn't going to stop me from ordering a water and watching the show
 
2012-08-03 08:36:44 AM
In the thread, people who support driving CFA out of business, costing the employees their jobs, yet get angry if one of their fellow anti-CFA'ers makes a cashier mildly uncomfortable.
 
2012-08-03 08:39:14 AM

DmGdDawg: Dr. Martin Luther King also suffered persecution from the establishment when he confronted the unjust social order of his day. Sometimes he even went to JAIL for civil disobedience. People called him names and thought he was a rabble rouser. Today we look at him as a hero.

Of course, he wasn't just a big douche like this guy, so the comparison maybe isn't 100%.


I agree. I'd also add that the way protests are conducted seem to have a fairly significant effect on their success. Martin Luther King protested peacefully and respectfully, which added power to his message. This Adam Smith person behaved like a jerk. In my opinion, that sort of behavior actually works against whatever the cause is. He can feel all smug about supporting gay causes, but by coming across as hate-filled himself, he actually did more harm than good.

As vile as they are, I believe the Westboro Baptist Church crowd is doing more to advance gay rights than most pro-gay groups. Most reasonable people get fed up with their antics and might eventually reevaluate their own beliefs.
 
2012-08-03 08:40:09 AM

Gothnet: 1. This guy is a dickbag. It's true.

2. Sorry to all you folks who think that it's "Just a Job" and the girl shouldn't feel bad because she doesn't set corporate policy, but you're utterly, utterly wrong.

She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions.


If you work in a convenience store selling tobacco products, and since tobacco is a highly addictive product that kills it's users when used as intended, then if you should feel bad for being part if you are a moral individual.

Same goes for attending Catholic church and supporting them by putting money in the plate, even though you think their top dog is an evil individual for shielding pedos and messing with the politics of third world countries.

My father quit an aerospace company because they were building parts for nuclear weapons. Good pay, but he hated having the check his morals at the door every workday.
 
2012-08-03 08:40:23 AM

SkunkWerks: Thunderpipes: Point of the story is.... this is how you leftists all are. You are hateful and mean. Look at the way you protest v the Tea Party or the Chick-Fil-A supporters. Violence and mayhem from the left, peaceful words from the right. You only believe in free speech if it is your speech.

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This is coming from the same group that says protesting Chick-Fil-a infringes on thier free speech. Pot, meet kettle.

Firing this guy is between the company and him, and has nothing to do with free speech laws, why are you even bringing that up?
 
2012-08-03 08:40:28 AM
You know a great marketing move might be for one of the other chicken chains to have a donation drive for a gay rights organization.

Though they might be afraid of being firebombed by the anti-gay movement.
 
2012-08-03 08:41:09 AM

awshat: 1 - "I wonder if they're doing a sit-in. I might just join them." Hey- dumbass, what if the sit-in is in DEFENSE of their anti-gay stance?

2 - This guy was SO THIRSTY that he endured a huge line at the drive-thru for his free cup of water, and he just so happened to record the event on his whatever-he-used-to-record-the-event-on. This is a guy who, he, himself, is so full of LOVE as to go out of his way to share his feelings with the nasty minimum wage employee at the window. What a guy.

3 - "Anti-gay breakfast sandwich always tastes better when it's full of hate." Seems to me that this dope has at least as much hate as he claims Chick-fil-A exhibits.

4 - Lastly, why is sexual preference even an issue? So, the CEO said something that everybody would have been in complete agreement with 50 years ago, only now we're more enlightened. In not changing their personal views I think they should be admired & respected, not ridiculed.

Mobs don't rule.


Look. Their an asshat, this guy is an asshat, you're an awshat. Can't we just recognize that we're surrounded by asshats and move on with our lives?

/ asshats
 
2012-08-03 08:42:06 AM

Gothnet: 1. This guy is a dickbag. It's true.

2. Sorry to all you folks who think that it's "Just a Job" and the girl shouldn't feel bad because she doesn't set corporate policy, but you're utterly, utterly wrong.

She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions.


That's farking ridiculous.
 
2012-08-03 08:43:07 AM

Ryan2065: gimmegimme: FTA: "Vogel said the company has no stance on the gay marriage issue but has always hade a "good relationship" with Chick-fil-A. He said the company will consider contacting the employee Smith ambushed in an attempt to mend fences."

Jesus Christ. Welcome to America, in which there is no difference between you at work and you at home. While I do NOT like what this guy did at all, I take great exception to the idea that we are representatives of Dear Company at all times. It's not like the guy said, "Hello, I'm Jerk McJerkface, here on behalf of Vante, a provider of medical manufacturing solutions..."

It sounds like the two companies do business together.


Just a wild guess they make stents and stuff to open clogged arteries? Gotta have places like CFA in business selling artery clogging dreck to keep themselves in business.

/probably wrong, just a wild guess
 
2012-08-03 08:43:37 AM
Everyone relax it will be all right. America isn't going to lose this top resource. He will get a nice national-security job working with the U.S. government just like Sandusky.
 
2012-08-03 08:44:23 AM

LL316: What the hell is wrong with people? You know who else doesn't believe in gay marriage? The f'ing President of the United States. Yes, he's currently pandering for votes. But he's already said what he believes. Why don't the gays make out in front of the White House?


All that matters is what he'll do legislation-wise. Pandering or not, he's taken the stance that's pro-civil rights and anti-discrimination.

Nothing to protest there, as presumably he won't push bigoted legislation, unlike what we're likely to see from ol' Mittens.
 
2012-08-03 08:46:36 AM

gunga galunga: TheOriginalEd: [s10.postimage.org image 180x180]

Sadly, you might be right. If dickbag behavior like what the guy in TFA did continues, there's going to be a backlash to the backlash.

/also thinks the planned Chik-fil-A "kiss-in" planned for today is counterproductive and stupid


All CFA has to do is keep quiet. The dickbags will hang themselves if they don't watch it. That's good because I can't think of too many uses for dickbags other than hanging.

Hadn't heard of the kiss in. Looked it up - I hope the turn out is really good. Maybe then homosexuals will realize that a vast majority aren't nearly as worried about them as they are themselves.
 
2012-08-03 08:47:10 AM
Typical liberals, they think there should be consequences for speaking freely for everyone else except themselves.

Just like how they expect everyone else to suffer under "green" regulations so there's enough carbon credits left over for them to drive SUVs, and how they think other people should feel privileged to sacrifice their money so they can spend it on nice things for themselves.
 
2012-08-03 08:47:18 AM

Pocket Ninja: I'm having a really hard time understanding any thought process by which he imagined himself not looking like a complete asshole in this video.


I have a hard time understanding how you can type so fast ALL THE F****** TIME and mean absolutely NOTHING.
 
2012-08-03 08:47:47 AM
Well, the Jerk Store called, and they're running out of you!
 
2012-08-03 08:48:11 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: In the thread, people who support driving CFA out of business, costing the employees their jobs, yet get angry if one of their fellow anti-CFA'ers makes a cashier mildly uncomfortable.


No this is the thread where we butter our nipples, break raw eggs in our lap and pretend we're making french toast. Feel free to comment, but don't come in here without an accent or a crepe pan.
 
2012-08-03 08:48:24 AM
What a f*cking asshole
 
2012-08-03 08:50:59 AM

Gothnet: 1. This guy is a dickbag. It's true.

2. Sorry to all you folks who think that it's "Just a Job" and the girl shouldn't feel bad because she doesn't set corporate policy, but you're utterly, utterly wrong.

She abides by it and she supports it by working there, as do all employees. You don't (or shouldn't) work for a company you have an ethical problem with, if you continue working there you're making the world worse through your actions.


How many major companies have a lot shadier business practices than donating money to anti-gay marriage groups, anywhere from sweatshops in China and India, using bribery in order to continue unsafe working conditions, corporate espionage and theft, selling products that can kill people who eat drink or smoke them, etc, etc. ect. Hint: almost all of them. And you want the kid working a drive thru to make a statement by not working there? Get the fark out of here with that noise.
 
2012-08-03 08:51:51 AM

Kevin72: [www.homoquotables.com image 598x641]


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/q&d paint job
 
2012-08-03 08:52:49 AM

Tatterdemalian: Typical liberals, they think there should be consequences for speaking freely for everyone else except themselves.


What the fark are you babbling about? This was a pro-gay guy who did the harassing of the drive through girl.
 
2012-08-03 08:52:49 AM

Tatterdemalian: Typical liberals, they think there should be consequences for speaking freely for everyone else except themselves.

Just like how they expect everyone else to suffer under "green" regulations so there's enough carbon credits left over for them to drive SUVs, and how they think other people should feel privileged to sacrifice their money so they can spend it on nice things for themselves.


Hey, can you point out the "Typical Liberals" in this thread who think there shouldn't be consequences? thx.
 
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